[00:15] <octoquad> darkxst, this bug has been fixed in 3.14.2 in staging, should I mark it as fixed released: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1395419
[00:35] <darkxst> octoquad, yes
[00:50] <LinDol> hi all :) good morning
[00:58] <octoquad> darkxst, is it possible to dd an ubuntu gnome image to usb? I thought that was only possible with Linux Mint at the moment: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1419097
[01:01] <darkxst> octoquad, not entirely sure but would have though its possible
[01:02] <octoquad> It has to be a hybrid image: http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/744
[01:03] <octoquad> I'll give it a bash quickly...
[01:08] <darkxst> octoquad, I would have assumed all Ubuntu images are hybrid's
[01:11] <octoquad> since oneiric: http://www.tuxgarage.com/2011/06/ubuntu-switched-to-hybrid-disc-images.html
[01:11] <octoquad> possibly bad build then for that report?
[01:13] <octoquad> now I know why my attempt also failed with dd ages ago, good to know how it's done properly now
[01:14] <darkxst> octoquad, that bug is nothing to do with how the usb was made
[01:14] <darkxst> was probably a graphics bug or something
[01:15] <darkxst> but hard to tell without some logs !
[01:16] <octoquad> I was eliminating a possibility, but having a look at the specs now...
[01:17] <darkxst> get them to attach ~/.cache/upstart/gnome-session-GNOME.log and /var/log/installer/*
[03:05] <sterns> octoquad, I used dd to create the install for the Vivid I'm using now.  Unetbootin did not work however.
[08:16] <Noskcaj> darkxst, Should the shell 3.15 ppa have the same mutter as gnome3-staging or should i skip some changes?
[08:18] <darkxst> Noskcaj, yes same as -staging
[08:18] <Noskcaj> ok
[08:19] <Noskcaj> What's the plan with disable 04_ignore_shadow_and_padding.patch
[08:19] <Noskcaj> You said it probably needs to be done via CSS
[08:26] <darkxst> Noskcaj, it only affect ubuntu themes, so not sure its worth worrying about
[08:26] <Noskcaj> ok
[08:29] <darkxst> btw think g-s-d will be need for input configs to work properly
[08:29] <darkxst> so probably this will end up similar to the core 3.14 update
[08:29] <darkxst> package wise
[08:31] <Noskcaj> ok
[09:28] <darkxst> Noskcaj, my keyboa;rd died, a;n ba;rely type a;nything nowc\
[12:34] <octoquad> darkxst, I'm not sure if you would like to use this as a work ticket for wayland support: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1245671
[12:36] <darkxst> octoquad, its already enabled
[12:39] <octoquad> vivid only right?
[12:39] <darkxst> and given its experimental, really only want to see bugs with useful data
[12:39] <darkxst> octoquad, yes it will only every be vivid+
[12:40] <octoquad> ok, I'll mark as fixed released and ask if they can help test it out and report any bugs they find.
[12:40] <darkxst> sounds good
[12:40] <octoquad> :)
[12:42] <octoquad> darkxst, do you need a hand with anything?
[12:44] <darkxst> octoquad, yes lots
[12:45] <octoquad> ok, please tell me what needs to be done (highest priority)
[12:45] <octoquad> is wayland testing one of them?
[12:46] <darkxst> octoquad, wayland is really a side thing
[12:47] <octoquad> I see
[12:47] <darkxst> probably now getting 3.16 ready is most important
[12:47] <octoquad> are we using that final release?
[12:47] <octoquad> s/that/that for/
[12:48] <darkxst> octoquad, maybe, atleast for core
[12:48] <octoquad> oh nice
[12:48] <octoquad> is up on the staging ppa?
[12:48] <darkxst> gnome-shell, g-s-d. g-c-c etc
[12:48] <darkxst> octoquad, yes
[12:48] <octoquad> ok, i'll get that setup and test
[12:52] <darkxst> octoquad, thanks
[12:52] <darkxst> I'm off to bed now
[12:52] <octoquad> night
[18:21] <ahoneybun> hola
[19:19] <awesomefireduck> hello everyone
[19:20] <awesomefireduck> can somebody help me with dual monitors in X?
[19:21] <sterns> I'll try, what's up?
[19:23] <awesomefireduck> I have a two monitors: a tv 1920x108 and a monitor 1680x1050
[19:24] <awesomefireduck> I also have two GPU's
[19:24] <awesomefireduck> an AMD Radeon HD 6950 and the built-in Intel HD from my i5
[19:24] <awesomefireduck> the tv is on the AMD and the monitor on the buit-in
[19:25] <awesomefireduck> The image on my monitor is offset quite a bit from the actual position
[19:25] <awesomefireduck> but in a screenshot everything looks fine
[19:25] <awesomefireduck> I'll take a pic to clarify
[19:26] <sterns> have you looked at the "displays" control panel?
[19:28] <awesomefireduck> yes
[19:30] <awesomefireduck> http://imgur.com/a/ft5FM
[19:30] <awesomefireduck> the tv is to the left of the monitor
[19:31] <awesomefireduck> when I move the mouse from the tv to the monitor it enters it from the right of the black bar in the middle
[19:31] <awesomefireduck> and when I move it to the right of the monitor is enters the monitor from the left
[19:32] <awesomefireduck> Am I making sense?
[19:32] <awesomefireduck> I figuered I need to move the display to the right relative to the actual LCD
[19:32] <awesomefireduck> But I don't know how
[19:33] <awesomefireduck> I tried editing .comfig/monitors.xml but that didn't work
[19:34] <sterns> do both displays work properly individually, if you only have one plugged in?
[19:35] <awesomefireduck> yes
[19:36] <awesomefireduck> I'll check again
[19:37] <sterns> and what if they are reversed?  opposite video cards?
[19:37] <awesomefireduck>  then it works
[19:37] <awesomefireduck> but I don't want to keep switching them
[19:37] <awesomefireduck> the TV is my gaming monitor
[19:40] <awesomefireduck> what I got from xrandr:
[19:40] <awesomefireduck> Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 3600 x 1080, maximum 16384 x 16384 HDMI-0 connected primary 1680x1050+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 474mm x 296mm HDMI2 connected 1920x1080+1680+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 160mm x 90mm
[19:40] <awesomefireduck> Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 3600 x 1080, maximum 16384 x 16384
[19:40] <awesomefireduck> HDMI-0 connected primary 1680x1050+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 474mm x 296mm
[19:40] <awesomefireduck> HDMI2 connected 1920x1080+1680+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 160mm x 90mm
[19:41] <awesomefireduck> this is switched btw
[19:43] <awesomefireduck> I just switched back and everything looks fine
[19:43] <sterns> So, if you have only the TV plugged int other AMD, it works properly?
[19:43] <awesomefireduck> yes
[19:43] <sterns> are you saying it's working properly now?
[19:43] <awesomefireduck> but now the order is swiched
[19:43] <awesomefireduck> tv is phisically to the left
[19:44] <awesomefireduck> but in the order it is the right screen
[19:45] <awesomefireduck> and when i switch that with the display settings it is in the order I want
[19:45] <awesomefireduck> but broken
[19:45] <awesomefireduck> like before
[19:46] <awesomefireduck> I'm using Gnome shell 3.12.2
[19:47] <sterns> what if you change the primary?
[19:47] <sterns> or try other arrangements.
[19:47] <sterns> like above/below etc.
[19:51] <awesomefireduck> If I change the primary monitor (was TV is now monitor) It says Primary in the settings, but the gnome bar is still on the TV
[19:52] <awesomefireduck> This is a clean install of 14.04.1 with the dist-upgrade  to 3.12
[19:52] <awesomefireduck> other arrangements break even more
[19:54] <sterns> Well having the virtual monitor on the wrong side doesn't seem that bad.  :)
[19:55] <awesomefireduck> well, yeah
[19:55] <awesomefireduck> but it's still annoying
[19:56] <awesomefireduck> I just had a thought
[19:56] <awesomefireduck> ill try the X11 channel at #xorg
[19:56] <sterns> Have you considered trying Vivid?  Which has gnome 3.14?
[19:56] <awesomefireduck> can't trusty have 3.14?
[19:57] <sterns> don't know, but you could install vivid on usb stick to give it a try\
[19:57] <awesomefireduck> I'll keep it as an option
[19:58] <awesomefireduck> thanks for the help :)
[19:58] <sterns> if you hang around, I'm sure somebody more knowledgeable will come around.
[20:04] <ahoneybun> hey expect a shout out to Ubuntu GNOME in my app uBeginner: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-beginner