[00:55] <SturmFlut> dobey: Bq Mobile answered my question from yesterday, https://twitter.com/bqreaders/status/564190419685494785
[00:56] <SturmFlut> They will provide Ubuntu Touch images for Aquaris E4.5 phones shipped with Andorid
[00:56] <SturmFlut> s/Andorid/Android/
[01:32] <SturmFlut> mzanetti, popey: The server providing the App Store RSS feed died, I'll probably replace it on tuesday.
[01:33] <rsalveti> svij: I wonder if there was a problem with the multimedia role, as you said it works fine for notification and ringtone
[01:33] <rsalveti> if playing a ringtone is fine, it means the core part of the audio stack is working
[01:34] <rsalveti> the volume depends on what you're currently using. when not playing anything, the volume will change for the alert role (ringtone, etc)
[01:34] <rsalveti> when playing a video, it will be the multimedia one
[01:35] <rsalveti> svij: when playing a video/music, please run 'pactl list sink-inputs' and paste me the output
[01:35] <rsalveti> that should tell what is going on at the pulseaudio level
[05:36] <andy> hello there guys!
[05:36] <andy> Quick question if anyone is there
[05:37] <andy> :(
[05:56] <andy> hello olaf
[07:57] <elimisteve> Congratulations, Ubuntu Touch developers! I've been reading and watching reviews of the Aquaris, and people who have used the device seem really excited about the results!
[07:58] <uhhimhere> do i need to enable USB_GADGET to get USB_OTG running on my device during compile time?
[07:58] <elimisteve> I can't really trust my phone at present (a Nexus 5) due to Android's security model and all the proprietary apps, and I hope those days are behind me soon and that I can be running as much open source software on my phone as I do on my desktop and servers
[09:54] <Ske_> hello, I have a problem with the "ubuntu-device-flash --channel=devel --bootstrap" command. I get  an "mkdir /root/.cache: permission denied". Have anyone an idea how can I solve sthis problem?
[09:58] <Ske_> I try to work with the following howto https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/installing-ubuntu-for-devices/, all its woking fine but the write problem is bad.
[10:23] <SturmFlut> Ske_: Are you trying to run the command as root or something?
[10:39] <Ske_> yes all the commands run as root
[10:41] <Ske_> when I connect with adb shell and create a directory in /root after remount the system fs as rw. All changes disappear after reboot
[11:23] <Isotop7> which channel does the bq use? are all the features of the bq available on devel channel build for mako?
[11:27] <popey> Isotop7: i think there's a few apps on the bq phone which aren't on the mako build
[11:28] <Isotop7> oh okay...is this going to change or will there be exclusive apps for official ubuntu phones in the future? Also are there any official informations if and when the ubuntu version of meizu mx4 will launch?
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/02/first-ever-ubuntu-phone-unboxing-video-appears-online
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> check this out :p
[11:29] <popey> I haven't seen a publicly announced official date for mx4
[11:31] <Isotop7> oh okay...thanks for your information :)
[11:35] <lotuspsychje> nice video on Bq :p
[11:37] <lotuspsychje> nearby looking interesting
[11:42] <lotuspsychje> my guess, bq phone will be sold out soon
[11:49] <Isotop7> in my opinion, not having lte is a big disadvantage but it still is a good phone...hope that it sells pretty good!
[11:49] <lotuspsychje> im sure it will
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> remember how many users wanted that first ubuntu phone in crowdfunding
[11:55] <Isotop7>  yeah...but 32 mill was to much to ask for...very sad that this didnt happen :/
[11:56] <lotuspsychje> oh well, its all happening now
[11:57] <Isotop7> yeah but there are no official plans to make convergence happen (docking station etc.)
[11:57] <k1l> i think after asus and motorola failed with it the manufacturers fear it a bit.
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> im sure meizu and bq launches, will make new future plans for the whole world
[11:59] <lotuspsychje> k1l: indeed, its a bit like windows laptops fear linux on their hardware
[11:59] <popey> Isotop7: there are plans
[11:59] <popey> Isotop7: its just not finished yet
[11:59] <k1l> and honestly: i dont mind LTE. most people around me dont have contracts that can make sane use of LTE. if you got LTE your LTE fullspeed would be cut after 10 seconds of traffic anyway,
[12:00] <Isotop7> as the internet says: pics or it didnt happen :D i just believe informations if i can read them anywhere by an official source :)
[12:00] <Isotop7> well...not where i live...but i understand your point...also there are other phones in this pricing area which are sold very good and dont support lte :)
[12:01] <Isotop7> is anybody familiar with the hybrid modem hack of the nexus 4 on android?
[12:02] <Blublu> hello?
[12:02] <Blublu> I've 2 questions about ubuntu touch
[12:02] <Blublu> anybody could care to answer me :s
[12:03] <Isotop7> just ask :)
[12:03] <Blublu> hi isotop
[12:03] <Blublu> so
[12:03] <Blublu> 1) I read that ubuntu touch has html5 based apps
[12:03] <Blublu> but I also saw a guy running libreoffice on it
[12:04] <Blublu> is it technically possible to install "real" apps in ubuntu touch (desktop or otherwise)?
[12:06] <pipedream> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-Touch-Can-Now-Run-X-Org-Apps-Like-LibreOffice-469753.shtml
[12:06] <pipedream> It is not ported to Ubuntu touch (if it ever will be)
[12:07] <Isotop7> everything else in cordova, htlm5 and qml is possible but i dont think that porting native apps is something than ubuntu touch should be capable of...
[12:08] <Isotop7> even though i think that when more and more people buy ubuntu touch phones the developers will adapt an office suite. But for now: no i dont think so!
[12:08] <Isotop7> have you seen it on a video?
[12:09] <Isotop7> also ubuntu touch is intended for lightweight web apps, not for heavy mir/xmir-based apps i think :)
[12:55] <Blublu> yes I saw it in a video
[12:55] <Blublu> isotop
[12:58] <Isotop7> okay...hm i dont know if something like this is possible...maybe popey can respond :o
[12:59] <popey> Blublu: yes, you can add html5 apps
[12:59] <popey> and a few on the phone are html5
[13:00] <Blublu> not html5
[13:00] <popey> you could (via some bodging) get some "legacy" apps running on it, but why you'd want to...?
[13:00] <Blublu> desktop apps
[13:00] <popey> i was answering both your points
[13:00] <popey> you mentioned html5 first.
[13:00] <popey> why would you want to run desktop apps on a 4.5" screen? :)
[13:00] <Blublu> I actually have a second question
[13:01] <Blublu> you are familiar with livecd
[13:01] <popey> yes
[13:01] <Blublu> or with liveusb
[13:01] <Blublu> yes
[13:01] <Blublu> can you can make your phone
[13:01] <Blublu> a livephone
[13:01] <popey> you might want to type your question all on one line.
[13:01] <popey> I don't know when to answer, because you're splitting it over many lines.
[13:02] <popey> I don't know what you mean by "livephone"
[13:02] <Isotop7> and rather tell what you are aiming for :)
[13:03] <Blublu> i am sorry. my aim is to, somehow, understand if theres a possibility of turning a phone into a desktop with ubuntu on it
[13:03] <popey> not yet.
[13:03] <Blublu> a livephone would be a phone in which hdd would be an ubuntu desktop version
[13:04] <Blublu> so you would partitionate the hdd into ubuntu touch and ubuntu desktop
[13:04] <popey> You might be able to, but it's not something we've done yet.
[14:11] <ramsudharsan> I am using a server where I am not a sudoer. I am looking forward in porting Ubuntu OS for my android mobile. Can someone  give me the link to the repo so that I can sync the proper sources?
[14:13] <ramsudharsan> Sorry for posting the above message. I asked the question without following the porting guide. Now I got it.
[14:59] <Tm_T> hola
[15:03] <Tm_T> I may have locked myself out of ubuntu phone
[16:38] <Tm_T> haa, these aquaris phones has some boot menus too
[16:42] <Tm_T> hmmm, but they talk about android in many places
[16:42] <Tm_T> I wonder if I would do permanent damage if I go and choose factory reset from recovery mode
[16:44] <Stskeeps> getting rid of those android mentions is sometimes the hardest part of productization :P
[16:46] <Drew_Neilson> forgive me if this is a stupid question, but I've never used Ubuntu before and am kinda interested in it.  Before I decide whether or not to buy one of the early-adopter phones, what is the official name of Canonical's app store for Ubuntu on smart phones?
[17:12] <PaoloRotolo> Hi all!
[17:13] <PaoloRotolo> Can you please tell me how can I detect if an HTML5 app is running on Ubuntu Touch?
[17:24] <Drew_Neilson> does anyone know of any apps that are available for Ubuntu Touch and are available for download from the Ubuntu Software Center?
[17:50] <Drew_Neilson> does anyone know of any apps that are available for Ubuntu Touch and are available for download from the Ubuntu Software Center?
[17:50] <zapa_> good day everyone
[17:50] <Drew_Neilson> I'm specifically looking for apps I can download, because I don't have an Ubuntu Phone, but am considering getting one, and I want to find out how many apps are available for Ubuntu Touch in the Ubuntu Software Center.  I figure one thing I can do is go to the Ubuntu Software Center from my Windows laptop, and see if anything specifically says "for phones" or "for Ubuntu Touch"
[17:50] <zapa_> I just installed Ubuntu-Touch on my n4 so I can try and port one of my games
[17:51] <zapa_> but both my pc's (on windows and linux) do not recognize the phone and cannot mount it.
[17:51] <zapa_> can anyone point me out to some solutions?
[17:54] <anpok> zapa_: ubuntu touch uses mtp
[17:54] <anpok> so at least on ubuntu desktop everything you need should be installed by default
[17:55] <zapa_> anpok: got a pc running ubuntu, and another one with eOS and Windows. When I plug in the device nothing happens
[17:55] <anpok> zapa_: oh did you enter the pin?
[17:56] <zapa_> there's a pin?
[17:56] <anpok> zapa_: the idea is, if you take somebodies device, you are not allowed to download any of its data
[17:56] <anpok> so you need to log in
[17:56] <anpok> on the phone while plugged in
[17:57] <zapa_> enabling phone lock via pin right now
[17:58] <anpok> Drew_Neilson: i have seen a web browseable store somewhere..hmm
[17:59] <Drew_Neilson> was it https://apps.ubuntu.com?
[18:00] <zapa_> anpok: ok, it worked! dissabled code lock
[18:00] <zapa_> and tried connecting again. Phone does not appear :D
[18:00] <anpok> Drew_Neilson: hmm no, not that one. it was some unofficial frontend
[19:36] <popey> Drew_Neilson: https://appstore.bhdouglass.com/apps
[19:38] <Drew_Neilson> Thanks Popey, but is there a way to find apps for Ubuntu Touch in the Ubuntu Software Center?
[19:39] <popey> no
[19:39] <popey> the phone doesn't use the same store
[19:39] <Drew_Neilson> I read that the Ubuntu Software Center either is or will be extended to support apps for Ubuntu Touch
[19:40] <Flexman> hi!
[19:40] <Flexman> say can I run Ubuntu Touch from an USB-Stick on the Surface Pro?
[19:40] <popey> Drew_Neilson: dunno where you read that.
[19:40] <popey> Flexman: I have seen people try.
[19:41] <Flexman> popey: did you also see them succeeding? :-D
[19:41] <popey> not with my own eyes
[19:42] <Drew_Neilson> popey http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/app-ecosystem "The Ubuntu Software Centre will extend to deliver phone apps, enabling users to download and install applications in seconds. And here’s the really amazing thing: thanks to the Ubuntu SDK, apps can be written to work on all Ubuntu form factors at once."
[19:42] <popey> heh
[19:42] <popey> in the future, yeah.
[19:42] <popey> the two will merge at some point I guess.
[19:43] <Drew_Neilson> so when the first Ubuntu phone ships--the one from BQ--how will users download apps and scopes onto it?
[19:43] <Flexman> seems that ubuntu will work on the surface (but you have to get the wifi driver manually). so why shouldn't ubuntu touch work?
[19:45] <mhall119> Drew_Neilson: there's a "Store" scope where you can browse, install, leave ratings & reviews, etc
[19:45] <mhall119> works for both apps and scopes
[19:46] <popey> Drew_Neilson: There is a store.
[19:46] <popey> Drew_Neilson: right now it's separate from the desktop one
[19:47] <Drew_Neilson> I'm a Windows user, and I'm considering getting the BQ phone when it comes out soon, but I want to see Ubuntu Touch's app selection first.
[19:48] <popey> Drew_Neilson: i gave you a link.
[19:49] <Drew_Neilson> popey the link you gave me: is that the official store that the BQ phone will be configured to go to when users want to download apps and scopes?
[19:49] <popey> Drew_Neilson: its a web based view of it, yes
[19:50] <Drew_Neilson> ok, that's exactly what I wanted, a web-based view.  Thanks
[19:55] <mhall119> Drew_Neilson: it uses public APIs from the actual store to display the apps
[19:56] <Drew_Neilson> mhall119 what does?  The scope that you mentioned above?
[19:56] <Drew_Neilson> also, what do you mean by "actual store"?
[19:56] <popey> the website I linked to
[19:57] <popey> The actual store that is accessible on the phone
[19:57] <popey> The website I linked to just uses our documented APIs to pull data from the store about what apps are there, reviews etc
[19:57] <popey> it presents that in a web page.
[19:57] <mhall119> technically they both use the same API
[19:59] <Drew_Neilson> so let me make sure I understand correctly: popey: the link you provided me uses the API from the store--the store that will be directly accessible from the phone--to list Ubuntu Touch apps in a web page?
[19:59] <popey> yes
[20:00] <Drew_Neilson> perfect
[20:01] <Drew_Neilson> so if the store for Ubuntu Touch apps and scopes is going to be separate from the Ubuntu Software Center for a while, what is the name of the Ubuntu Touch software store?
[20:02] <popey> We colloquially call it the "Click store"
[20:04]  * popey goes away for a bit while running benchmark tests.
[20:05] <Drew_Neilson> if the BQ phone is going on sale next week, shouldn't the app store for Ubuntu Touch be finished by now?
[20:06] <popey> what do you mean by "finished"?
[20:06] <popey> Is the Microsoft Windows store "finished"?
[20:07] <Drew_Neilson> Or I mean, shouldn't it have a finalized name?  I'm curious because you said that you all *colloquially* call it the "click store".
[20:08] <popey> its a long story
[20:08] <popey> i said we colloquially call it that because the name may change
[20:08] <Myself5> I wouldnt use Windows as an example popey. Nothing is finished there :P
[20:08] <popey> but if you said "is it in the click store?" I (and everyone else here) would know what you mean.
[20:08] <popey> Myself5: exactly my point.
[20:09] <Myself5> but Ubuntu should be better ;P
[20:09] <popey> s/Ubuntu/anything/
[20:09] <popey> Nothing is perfect.
[20:09] <popey> Two hardest things in computing. 1) Caching 2) naming things.
[20:09] <Myself5> true
[20:10] <Drew_Neilson> I guess I don't need to know what the store's *official* name is, since the link you provided shows me what apps are available, I was just curious in case I decided to Google its official name to read more about it
[20:12] <popey> Drew_Neilson: the official name on the website is the "Ubuntu Software Store beta"
[20:12] <popey> "click store" is easier to day
[20:12] <popey> *say
[20:12] <popey> hence "colloquially"
[20:13] <Drew_Neilson> can you send me a link?
[20:16] <anpok> popey: and the second hardest thing is 2) off-by-one errors
[20:22] <WebVisitor-7> I am trying to figure out how to install Ubuntu Touch onto my specific tablet. Can't find much info on it anywhere. I have an Acer Iconia w500 (Runs Windows 7 and can support Windows 8). I have Ubuntu Desktop 14.04 on it but it runs as a desktop and this is in fact a Tablet. Any advice please ??
[20:27] <jgdx> !devices | WebVisitor-7
[20:28] <WebVisitor-7> my device is not listed there. The Iconia a700 is, but that is an Android device, where mine is a x86 based. I can't find any info anywhere on how to install it to this device.
[20:32] <muyiscoi> I'm trying to test out the vivid unity 8 session ISO, but its requesting a password to login when I boot it
[20:32] <muyiscoi> what's the password?
[20:32] <jgdx> muyiscoi, tried "phablet" ?
[20:33] <muyiscoi> no. Let me try that
[20:34] <jgdx> or maybe it's what's described here? http://www.webupd8.org/2014/06/ubuntu-desktop-next-unity8-1410-utopic.html
[20:37] <WebVisitor-7> is there not a generic version of Ubuntu Touch for x86 that I can try and run from a USB Key or something?
[20:38] <muyiscoi> apparently, i'm just supposed to press enter. I'm testing it on a USB stick on this same laptop, so I wanna be certain before restarting again
[20:41] <Isotop7> is anybody familiar with hybrid modem hack of mako device for lte? Is this possible in ubuntu-touch?
[20:53] <popey> Drew_Neilson: link to what?
[20:53] <popey> (sorry, was afk)
[21:43] <adrian47> I have got bootlogo now!!!  :)
[21:44] <mighty> Hi,you can instal ubuntu- touch into a smartphone based on raspberry pi ?
[21:45] <k1l_> the arm chip from the old rpi is too old and not supported.
[21:47] <adrian47> I removed some folders from /data/usr/share (it was too big, i want symlink it later) it should boot without it?
[21:48] <adrian47> And how long can take 1st boot?
[21:50] <Drew_Neilson> Leo I want to mention that the fully unlocked, SIM-free iPhone 6 is now available from the Apple Store.  It might, depending on price, be a better option than buying an unlocked, Verizon-branded iPhone 6.
[21:51] <Drew_Neilson> oops, wrong chat room
[21:54] <studio_> hi
[21:56] <studio_> i have a question about the ubuntu-"phone". i was searching for a sip-client, but i couldn't find. will there be a sip-client for the ubuntu-phone?
[22:00] <jgdx> studio_, seems the answer is no, based on http://askubuntu.com/questions/262802/sip-client-in-ubuntu-touch
[22:02] <studio_> yes, i found informations from 2013, but i thought there are some updates?
[22:07] <adrian47> how can i debug now ubuntu boot process?
[22:18] <studio_> hmm, ubuntu-phone without sip and/or video calls like skype?
[22:20] <studio_> so how to make a video call on ubuntu-touch?
[22:20] <jgdx> studio_, maybe add an app to the click store?
[22:21] <studio_> sorry, don't understand that
[22:22] <studio_> isn't it a basic function from a phone?
[22:23] <jgdx> there are so many basic functions, though
[22:23] <studio__> ok, sms, mms and call and?
[22:25] <studio__> how to make a video call on the ubuntu-phone?
[22:29] <adrian47> Can i get real time log like with abd logcat on android?
[22:30] <studio__> come on, nobody tried a video call on ubuntu-touch?
[22:48] <studio__> the old Nokia N95 was able to make a video call, so the ubuntu-phone is not?
[22:49] <k1l_> well, linphone is in the ubuntu repos. does this work on ubuntu-touch?
[22:50]  * k1l_ had never used a voip call on his smartphones so far.
[22:51] <studio__> what about a video call via 3G? ...
[22:54] <k1l_> for me video calls are not important. you still need the other person to have the same protocol and a lot of transferspeed etc etc etc.
[22:54] <studio__> hmm, i do not try about to ask about a "secure" call on a ubuntu-phone ...
[22:55] <studio__> ... to ask ...
[22:56] <studio__> sorry for my english, but questions about questions.
[22:57] <k1l_> if you really demand such things that much help to get it to ubuntu touch. i mean its open source
[22:58] <studio__> @k1l_, i have to wait till bq makes it public, so in the moment i only can wait before testing ...
[22:59] <k1l_> you can put ubuntu touch on other devices
[23:00] <studio__> i only have the E4.5
[23:07] <studio__> @k1l_, but what first about a sip-client?
[23:08] <studio__> i am missing secure e-mail but now also no secure call?
[23:09] <k1l_> i think there is a process where you can file a whishlist or bugs so people who are interested can see if they can help there
[23:09] <k1l_> or you just code the apps you need and put them on the store.
[23:11] <studio__> i don't understand that, i am using ubuntu 12.04 and 14.04 and it is nearly secure, but the ubuntu-phone is not?
[23:12] <k1l_> studio__: you really should switch from demanding to "how can i help"
[23:12] <studio__> why do you not like question about "user" security?
[23:13] <k1l_> studio__: you dont ask. you demand and go nuts if the answer is not what you like
[23:14] <studio__> i allways ask but about security for the user i get no answer
[23:15] <k1l_> you got answers. but it seems most answers are no or no one is active right now in here who knows better. (since this channel is slow on weekends and late nights anyway).
[23:15] <studio__> " or no one is active right now in ..." ok
[23:16] <k1l_> and then you start making people feel unconfortable who like ubuntu touch because you start talking bad about it. so again: if that is super important for you when do you start doing something for it?
[23:16] <papy> hi all
[23:16] <studio__> sorry, not "bad about" just missing !!!
[23:17] <studio__> hi
[23:17] <k1l_> you just sit there and say: i want this, i want that, why doesnt it have this,..... so if that is important for you try to help make things better
[23:18] <studio__> @k1l_, i thought ubuntu touch is the same i have on my computers like ubuntu, but in the "moment" it is not ... do you understand that?
[23:18] <k1l_> studio__: i even know that
[23:19] <studio__> ;) ok
[23:19] <papy> can someone tell me if ubuntu touch can be installed on a x86 tablet like Asus T200TA ?
[23:19] <k1l_> studio__: on your pc you dont use unity8 or mir.
[23:19] <studio__> right
[23:19] <k1l_> studio__: and most important: on arm the driver thingy is a total different issue
[23:20] <studio__> it is not the question of "arm" i also use other arm-devices with linux
[23:21] <k1l_> because people spent time making working isos for it.
[23:24] <papy> can someone tell me if ubuntu touch can be installed on a x86 tablet like Asus T200TA ?
[23:24] <studio__> mtk is making advertising that ubuntu-touch is working in their chipset, so why they do not publish the kernel sources for 3.13 or higher?
[23:26] <studio__> i bought the E4.5 for "learning" but since now, i can't learn :(
[23:28] <k1l_> you should have bought the development devices then
[23:28] <studio__> where?
[23:28] <k1l_> you know which they are?
[23:29] <studio__> yes, bq aquaris E4.5
[23:30] <k1l_> nope. that is the first ubuntu-touch phone. but not the development device
[23:31] <k1l_> studio__: read this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[23:31] <studio__> what do you think is this: http://people.canonical.com/~rsalveti/video20141203_124614654.mp4 ?
[23:32] <k1l_> please read the side i linked
[23:32] <studio__> "devices" is outdated
[23:32] <k1l_> m(
[23:36] <k1l_> studio__: so you now know, that ubuntu got official supported development devices: the nexus ones, and a whole bunch of other devices with community support. you easily could have picked one of those if you wanted to learn.
[23:37] <studio__> @k1l_ look here: https://twitter.com/bqreaders/status/564190419685494785
[23:37] <k1l_> studio__: so dont blame ubuntu-touch that you need to wait. you could have choosen other devices.
[23:38] <k1l_> studio__: i bet you still didnt read the page i linked you
[23:39] <studio__> but it is not showing ubuntu-touch is with a video call nor with a secure call nor e-mail !!!
[23:40] <studio__> therefore i am asking here!
[23:40] <k1l_> studio__:  and you got answers
[23:40] <k1l_> you dont like the answers but thats the way it is.
[23:40] <studio__> from 2013?
[23:40] <k1l_> nope
[23:41] <k1l_> scroll back up and read again.
[23:41] <studio__> so "please" what about "user" security?
[23:41] <k1l_> studio__: sagmal!
[23:41] <studio__> no sagmal!
[23:41] <k1l_> liest du auch nur für 2 pfennig was man dir antwortet?
[23:43] <studio__> plz, what e-mail-client for secure e-mail (gpg or s/mime) and that client for secure calls on ubuntu-phone?
[23:43] <k1l_> studio__: no
[23:43] <studio__> come on, this is not funny ....
[23:44] <k1l_> that questions were already answered and you can leave if you want to spoil the work of volunteers and troll this channel
[23:45] <studio__> this not about the channel, this is about ubuntu-phone!
[23:45] <k1l_> stop trolling
[23:46] <studio__> do YOU think i am trolling?
[23:46] <studio__> i do not beleve ....
[23:47] <k1l_> yes. pope_y did answer you the email question last days several time very clearly. and i just did it again and answered you the question about the secure calls.
[23:47] <k1l_> so even if you ask today 10000000000000000 times again. the answes dont change magically.
[23:48] <studio__> no, still now i got no answer about a simple video calll ...
[23:48] <k1l_> *sigh*
[23:50] <studio__> so, do i ask the wrong questions?
[23:51] <k1l_> no, you just dont like the right answers
[23:52] <studio__> since now, i got no answer ... what about a video call
[23:52] <k1l_> scroll back up
[23:52] <studio__> no answer ...
[23:52] <k1l_> i am not going to answer questions that i already answered you
[23:53] <studio__> is "make an app" your answer???
[23:54] <k1l_> that is the result of you beeing too stubborn and not accept answers that you dont like
[23:54] <matv1> studio_ atm there is no video calls in ubuntu touch. you have been told. don' t keep asking.
[23:55] <studio__> g+, facebook and Co. is so important for a linux-phone ... :(
[23:59] <studio__> new questions, what about a free (offline) navigation and libre office?