| shauno | heh, the gay marriage referendum in slovakia failed spectacularly. 21% turnout. | 00:37 |
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| daftykins | o0 | 00:42 |
| shauno | it's a weird one. it's already banned, but they're trying to "ban it harder" | 00:50 |
| shauno | but they require >50% turnout for any referendum to be valid, so "meh" almost always wins | 00:50 |
| daftykins | oh wow, i was thinking it was support of gay marriage being voted for | 01:02 |
| shauno | way off, sadly. today was optimstic in the sense of "not taking a step backwards" | 01:03 |
| shauno | currently it's banned by an act of parliament, so the ban can be repealed with "just" an act of parliament | 01:04 |
| shauno | today they tried to banned it "further" by referendum, so it'd require another referendum to repeal | 01:04 |
| shauno | luckily it seems ~80% of people think that's just as silly as it sounds | 01:04 |
| shauno | (or just don't care. with this minimum turnout jazz, "don't care" is quite powerful) | 01:06 |
| daftykins | seems really odd to ban others the same misery as hetero couples :) | 01:07 |
| shauno | heh | 01:08 |
| shauno | I just don't think it's kosher to enforce your religious views on anyone else. otherwise, I'm quite capable of inventing my own religion. and I can guarantee some pretty whacky views. | 01:09 |
| daftykins | :D | 01:10 |
| shauno | but I think it's mostly an important vote for them because it's finally shown that the very vocal 'religous right' aren't quite as big as their volume implies | 01:10 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| daftykins | that's true | 01:10 |
| ali1234 | what was the vote each way? | 01:11 |
| shauno | hugely 'yes', 94.5% | 01:13 |
| shauno | it seems to hang more on the turnout than anything else. if you want the status quo, you don't show up | 01:14 |
| shauno | eg, no-one campains for 'vote no'. they actually tell you to just ignore it | 01:15 |
| shauno | (I mean, if 30% vote yes, 20% vote no, and 50% don't show up, they've hit quorum because 50% showed up, so 'yes' win. if 30% vote yes and 70% ignore it, the status quo wins) | 01:18 |
| shauno | so showing up and voting no makes it easier for yes to win lol | 01:18 |
| shauno | but it is an incredibly apathetic system. I believing entering the EU is the only referendum that ever hit quorum | 01:19 |
| penguin42 | was that so that they could elect a whole bunch of people that meant they could do a load of things without asking for referendums again? | 01:24 |
| shauno | their system's kinda the opposite of the irish system. they can ask for a referendum on pretty much anything, as long as they can get 350,000 signatures on a petition | 01:25 |
| penguin42 | from what size population? | 01:26 |
| shauno | we get them only when they really have to - anything that changes the constitution requires one | 01:26 |
| shauno | a bit over 5 million I think | 01:26 |
| penguin42 | 350k out of 5m is quite a high chunk | 01:28 |
| shauno | yeah. it seems quite realistic though. if you can't get <10% of the population to ask for it, you've little chance of getting >50% to vote for it | 01:28 |
| penguin42 | yeh | 01:29 |
| shauno | I just think it's interesting watching a completely different system at work | 01:30 |
| shauno | kinda like watching US elections. staring at them thinking "what on earth are you doing" is more interesting than the actual result | 01:30 |
| shauno | so watching political campaigns built around "ignore it and it'll go away" gives me the same puzzled stare | 01:31 |
| shauno | "don't vote for me!" is quite a mind-bending concept | 01:33 |
| daftykins | oh that's too amusing not to share, installing my windows 10 VM's latest updates has broken the mouse :D | 01:56 |
| penguin42 | meh overrated - you've got a touchscreen.... | 01:56 |
| daftykins | haha | 01:57 |
| daftykins | nah only 8 was foolishly designed for that | 01:57 |
| daftykins | it's probably just vmware, mind you | 01:57 |
| daftykins | waddaya know, a reboot fixed it! :D | 02:01 |
| mapp | hey all | 03:19 |
| daftykins | hey | 03:30 |
| daftykins | i don't think we're in any danger, but don't let it ever be said that i'm intelligent | 03:30 |
| daftykins | i swear the bed sheet i just put on my duvet was from some other universe | 03:31 |
| daftykins | 4D perhaps | 03:31 |
| daftykins | it was probably what killed Escher | 03:31 |
| mapp | heh | 03:31 |
| mapp | :) | 03:31 |
| mapp | debating what tv to watch;D | 03:31 |
| mapp | Allegiance it is | 03:54 |
| mapp | sounded ok and seems ok so far | 03:54 |
| directhex | moop | 03:56 |
| directhex | isn't it like crazy late in .uk ? | 03:56 |
| daftykins | yep | 03:58 |
| daftykins | 4am | 03:58 |
| mapp | im in gib;p so EVEN later | 03:58 |
| mapp | +1 | 03:58 |
| mapp | 402am in uk | 03:58 |
| mapp | where are you directhex | 04:06 |
| directhex | boston | 04:07 |
| mapp | oh | 04:07 |
| mapp | holiday? | 04:07 |
| directhex | work | 04:08 |
| directhex | flying back tomorrow. maybe | 04:08 |
| mapp | where u fly to? long flight? | 04:10 |
| mapp | ve only flown to europe:) | 04:10 |
| daftykins | bawston | 04:16 |
| daftykins | i've been there! | 04:17 |
| daftykins | i went on a tour | 04:17 |
| mapp | nice | 04:17 |
| directhex | i think i'm going to sleep now. that seems wise. | 04:28 |
| daftykins | :) | 04:31 |
| mapp | im gonna watch an ep of mysteries of laura | 04:38 |
| mapp | early for u isnt it daftykins | 04:41 |
| mapp | :) | 04:41 |
| daftykins | i'm trying to maximise the last of my 20s | 04:41 |
| daftykins | by... sitting on IRC at almost 5am ;_; | 04:41 |
| mapp | :) | 04:42 |
| === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi | ||
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 10:43 |
| popey | yo | 10:57 |
| brobostigon | morning popey | 10:58 |
| MartijnVdS | hey popey | 10:58 |
| SuperEngineer | now that Open Reach has [at last] kindly deemed to repair tha damage to line out they caused... guess I'd better say "hi" as well ;) | 11:03 |
| popey | haha http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=99042 | 11:03 |
| popey | you can make a rpi2 reboot by taking a photo of it :) | 11:03 |
| MartijnVdS | oops | 11:03 |
| zmoylan-pi | not a week for it to be in the limelight :-) | 11:10 |
| moreati | at least you can apply a patch to fix the problem | 11:50 |
| andyc | Hi. In ubuntu is there some mechanism to trigger a backup when I plug in the ethernet to my laptop on my home network. I suspect this will require me to write some scripts but I'd like to avoid that if there is a way to do this already. | 12:09 |
| SuperEngineer | Just treated the firm's PDA with the full respect it deserves: cleaned the screen... with a [soft] *scourer*. | 12:18 |
| SuperEngineer | Oh it felt so, so good! :D | 12:18 |
| popey | andyc: i kinda do that | 12:22 |
| popey | andyc: but I just have a cron job on my server at home which rsyncs from my laptop. If the laptop isn't there it fails. | 12:22 |
| andyc | popey, That's not a bad solution. I've just read I can put some bash in /etc/network/if-up.d/ so I might have a play with that first | 12:29 |
| andyc | cheers | 12:29 |
| popey | good idea | 12:32 |
| penguin42 | this stuff about the Raspberry Pi2 being sensitive to bright light is funny | 12:32 |
| popey | yeah | 12:34 |
| prefix | hey guys :) | 12:59 |
| prefix | Anyone own here a BT account ? | 12:59 |
| === Dave2_ is now known as Dave2 | ||
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| MooDoo | afternoon all | 14:52 |
| penguin42 | hey | 14:52 |
| MooDoo | how are you penguin42 ? | 14:53 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: kvm/ubuntu working fine so far, not tried glusterfs yet | 14:53 |
| penguin42 | MooDoo: Good good | 14:54 |
| MooDoo | excellent | 14:56 |
| diddledan | morning | 16:03 |
| shauno | kinda | 16:04 |
| penguin42 | MooDoo: What are you trying to do with kvm ? | 16:07 |
| diddledan | better | 16:43 |
| zmoylan-pi | a battered sausage and chips... | 16:44 |
| shauno | ali1234: random, just noticed you on the front page @ hackernews | 17:18 |
| shauno | (rpi/teletext; https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9017719 ) | 17:19 |
| ali1234 | what's hackernews? | 17:19 |
| zmoylan-pi | https://news.ycombinator.com/ | 17:19 |
| ali1234 | it looks like reddit if reddit had no users? | 17:19 |
| penguin42 | ali1234: Very nice :-) | 17:20 |
| shauno | I wouldn't say no users, just a slightly different audience | 17:21 |
| ali1234 | i could use some help with reverse engineering the display controller registers actually | 17:22 |
| ali1234 | also demo makes modern tvs crash apparently | 17:22 |
| penguin42 | ali1234: File under security bugs on modern tvs :-) | 17:23 |
| SuperEngineer | que? | 18:19 |
| diddledan | queueueue? | 18:20 |
| SuperEngineer | ;) | 18:20 |
| diddledan | us brits love our queues :-p | 18:21 |
| SuperEngineer | we also like to sub "us" for "we" sometimes :D | 18:23 |
| diddledan | that us do | 18:25 |
| SuperEngineer | you win! | 18:25 |
| diddledan | us likes to mix plural with singular, too. | 18:25 |
| SuperEngineer | [sorry about the "you win" - cursor on wrong app! | 18:26 |
| diddledan | yeah right | 18:26 |
| * SuperEngineer sits here sniggering - sorry, us SuperEngineers sit here sniggering | 18:28 | |
| popey | ahayzen: have you had terrible opengl performance since updating your kernel?> | 19:51 |
| popey | I upgraded to vivid and my machine freezes all the time in games | 19:52 |
| ahayzen | popey, ewww, 3.19 on utopic has been fine for me so far, which games are you playing? | 19:52 |
| popey | openspades under wine | 19:52 |
| popey | I'm on 3.18 | 19:52 |
| popey | vivid | 19:52 |
| ahayzen | wine :P | 19:52 |
| popey | worked fine in utopic :( | 19:53 |
| ahayzen | try 3.19 aha | 19:53 |
| popey | hm | 19:53 |
| popey | can't, then the sdk is busted | 19:53 |
| ahayzen | isn't that supposed to be released soon anyway? | 19:53 |
| popey | what? 3.19? | 19:53 |
| ahayzen | yeah | 19:53 |
| popey | dunno. | 19:54 |
| ahayzen | popey, according the phoronix http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-3.19-Kernel-Features "If all goes according to plan the Linux 3.19 kernel will be released by the end of today. " | 19:54 |
| ahayzen | popey, so assume vivid will be jumping soon? maybe that'll fix it but i haven't noticed any opengl issues thus far | 19:55 |
| popey | hmmm | 19:55 |
| popey | my laptop crawls | 19:55 |
| popey | i should benchmark it with pts | 19:56 |
| popey | :) | 19:56 |
| popey | then boot back to older utopic kernel to see if it's any better | 19:56 |
| ahayzen | yeah | 19:56 |
| * popey installs | 19:56 | |
| ahayzen | popey, top gear bbl o/ | 19:57 |
| popey | \o/ | 19:58 |
| shauno | diddledan: ping! | 21:16 |
| shauno | diddledan: 23:10 http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/#.VNfJJiDF8eZ | 21:26 |
| MooDoo | evening all | 22:23 |
| daftykins | evening o/ | 22:26 |
| MooDoo | hows it going daftykins ? | 22:26 |
| daftykins | mmm not too bad ta, stocked up on some beers for the night, vacuumed the house some more... now settling in :) | 22:26 |
| daftykins | and yourself? | 22:27 |
| MooDoo | brill thanks, just had a total ubuntu server geek out lol | 22:27 |
| daftykins | ooh how so? | 22:31 |
| daftykins | set one up? | 22:31 |
| MooDoo | 2 identical ubuntu servers, KVM running 5 vms, syncing the disks to a second server using glusterfs :D | 22:32 |
| MooDoo | redundancy :D | 22:32 |
| daftykins | :o | 22:33 |
| MooDoo | yeah i'm sad on a sunday night lol | 22:33 |
| daftykins | are all the same VMs able to fire up on the backup automatically? | 22:33 |
| MooDoo | that's the next project, I have a spare server, that i'll setup as a storage device so I can look into auto failover :D | 22:34 |
| MooDoo | I'm getting there | 22:34 |
| MooDoo | slight overkill for a home setup hee hee | 22:34 |
| daftykins | the fun stuff often is :) | 22:34 |
| MooDoo | :) | 22:34 |
| daftykins | i need to get around to upgrading these 10.04.4 VMs i run, soon - before the April chop | 22:35 |
| MooDoo | slightly quicker to setup than on centos. | 22:35 |
| daftykins | one just runs irssi, the other is a little web server | 22:35 |
| MooDoo | I'm using latest LTS, always stick with LTS versions | 22:35 |
| daftykins | *nod* | 22:37 |
| daftykins | pretty scary i've been on these for 5 years | 22:37 |
| daftykins | running the -72 kernel now, oy vey that's a lot of updates | 22:37 |
| shauno | (5 mins 'till that Falcon launch) | 23:05 |
| shauno | ... or not. | 23:07 |
| daftykins | but it's not the Millennium? | 23:10 |
| shauno | I just wanna see them try to land it again. but it's aborted today | 23:10 |
| MooDoo | again? sigh | 23:12 |
| daftykins | d'aww | 23:23 |
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