[00:37] heh, the gay marriage referendum in slovakia failed spectacularly. 21% turnout. [00:42] o0 [00:50] it's a weird one. it's already banned, but they're trying to "ban it harder" [00:50] but they require >50% turnout for any referendum to be valid, so "meh" almost always wins [01:02] oh wow, i was thinking it was support of gay marriage being voted for [01:03] way off, sadly. today was optimstic in the sense of "not taking a step backwards" [01:04] currently it's banned by an act of parliament, so the ban can be repealed with "just" an act of parliament [01:04] today they tried to banned it "further" by referendum, so it'd require another referendum to repeal [01:04] luckily it seems ~80% of people think that's just as silly as it sounds [01:06] (or just don't care. with this minimum turnout jazz, "don't care" is quite powerful) [01:07] seems really odd to ban others the same misery as hetero couples :) [01:08] heh [01:09] I just don't think it's kosher to enforce your religious views on anyone else. otherwise, I'm quite capable of inventing my own religion. and I can guarantee some pretty whacky views. [01:10] :D [01:10] but I think it's mostly an important vote for them because it's finally shown that the very vocal 'religous right' aren't quite as big as their volume implies === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [01:10] that's true [01:11] what was the vote each way? [01:13] hugely 'yes', 94.5% [01:14] it seems to hang more on the turnout than anything else. if you want the status quo, you don't show up [01:15] eg, no-one campains for 'vote no'. they actually tell you to just ignore it [01:18] (I mean, if 30% vote yes, 20% vote no, and 50% don't show up, they've hit quorum because 50% showed up, so 'yes' win. if 30% vote yes and 70% ignore it, the status quo wins) [01:18] so showing up and voting no makes it easier for yes to win lol [01:19] but it is an incredibly apathetic system. I believing entering the EU is the only referendum that ever hit quorum [01:24] was that so that they could elect a whole bunch of people that meant they could do a load of things without asking for referendums again? [01:25] their system's kinda the opposite of the irish system. they can ask for a referendum on pretty much anything, as long as they can get 350,000 signatures on a petition [01:26] from what size population? [01:26] we get them only when they really have to - anything that changes the constitution requires one [01:26] a bit over 5 million I think [01:28] 350k out of 5m is quite a high chunk [01:28] yeah. it seems quite realistic though. if you can't get <10% of the population to ask for it, you've little chance of getting >50% to vote for it [01:29] yeh [01:30] I just think it's interesting watching a completely different system at work [01:30] kinda like watching US elections. staring at them thinking "what on earth are you doing" is more interesting than the actual result [01:31] so watching political campaigns built around "ignore it and it'll go away" gives me the same puzzled stare [01:33] "don't vote for me!" is quite a mind-bending concept [01:56] oh that's too amusing not to share, installing my windows 10 VM's latest updates has broken the mouse :D [01:56] meh overrated - you've got a touchscreen.... [01:57] haha [01:57] nah only 8 was foolishly designed for that [01:57] it's probably just vmware, mind you [02:01] waddaya know, a reboot fixed it! :D [03:19] hey all [03:30] hey [03:30] i don't think we're in any danger, but don't let it ever be said that i'm intelligent [03:31] i swear the bed sheet i just put on my duvet was from some other universe [03:31] 4D perhaps [03:31] it was probably what killed Escher [03:31] heh [03:31] :) [03:31] debating what tv to watch;D [03:54] Allegiance it is [03:54] sounded ok and seems ok so far [03:56] moop [03:56] isn't it like crazy late in .uk ? [03:58] yep [03:58] 4am [03:58] im in gib;p so EVEN later [03:58] +1 [03:58] 402am in uk [04:06] where are you directhex [04:07] boston [04:07] oh [04:07] holiday? [04:08] work [04:08] flying back tomorrow. maybe [04:10] where u fly to? long flight? [04:10] ve only flown to europe:) [04:16] bawston [04:17] i've been there! [04:17] i went on a tour [04:17] nice [04:28] i think i'm going to sleep now. that seems wise. [04:31] :) [04:38] im gonna watch an ep of mysteries of laura [04:41] early for u isnt it daftykins [04:41] :) [04:41] i'm trying to maximise the last of my 20s [04:41] by... sitting on IRC at almost 5am ;_; [04:42] :) === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi [10:43] morning boys and girls. [10:57] yo [10:58] morning popey [10:58] hey popey [11:03] now that Open Reach has [at last] kindly deemed to repair tha damage to line out they caused... guess I'd better say "hi" as well ;) [11:03] haha http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=99042 [11:03] you can make a rpi2 reboot by taking a photo of it :) [11:03] oops [11:10] not a week for it to be in the limelight :-) [11:50] at least you can apply a patch to fix the problem [12:09] Hi. In ubuntu is there some mechanism to trigger a backup when I plug in the ethernet to my laptop on my home network. I suspect this will require me to write some scripts but I'd like to avoid that if there is a way to do this already. [12:18] Just treated the firm's PDA with the full respect it deserves: cleaned the screen... with a [soft] *scourer*. [12:18] Oh it felt so, so good! :D [12:22] andyc: i kinda do that [12:22] andyc: but I just have a cron job on my server at home which rsyncs from my laptop. If the laptop isn't there it fails. [12:29] popey, That's not a bad solution. I've just read I can put some bash in /etc/network/if-up.d/ so I might have a play with that first [12:29] cheers [12:32] good idea [12:32] this stuff about the Raspberry Pi2 being sensitive to bright light is funny [12:34] yeah [12:59] hey guys :) [12:59] Anyone own here a BT account ? === Dave2_ is now known as Dave2 === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [14:52] afternoon all [14:52] hey [14:53] how are you penguin42 ? [14:53] davmor2: kvm/ubuntu working fine so far, not tried glusterfs yet [14:54] MooDoo: Good good [14:56] excellent [16:03] morning [16:04] kinda [16:07] MooDoo: What are you trying to do with kvm ? [16:43] better [16:44] a battered sausage and chips... [17:18] ali1234: random, just noticed you on the front page @ hackernews [17:19] (rpi/teletext; https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9017719 ) [17:19] what's hackernews? [17:19] https://news.ycombinator.com/ [17:19] it looks like reddit if reddit had no users? [17:20] ali1234: Very nice :-) [17:21] I wouldn't say no users, just a slightly different audience [17:22] i could use some help with reverse engineering the display controller registers actually [17:22] also demo makes modern tvs crash apparently [17:23] ali1234: File under security bugs on modern tvs :-) [18:19] que? [18:20] queueueue? [18:20] ;) [18:21] us brits love our queues :-p [18:23] we also like to sub "us" for "we" sometimes :D [18:25] that us do [18:25] you win! [18:25] us likes to mix plural with singular, too. [18:26] [sorry about the "you win" - cursor on wrong app! [18:26] yeah right [18:28] * SuperEngineer sits here sniggering - sorry, us SuperEngineers sit here sniggering [19:51] ahayzen: have you had terrible opengl performance since updating your kernel?> [19:52] I upgraded to vivid and my machine freezes all the time in games [19:52] popey, ewww, 3.19 on utopic has been fine for me so far, which games are you playing? [19:52] openspades under wine [19:52] I'm on 3.18 [19:52] vivid [19:52] wine :P [19:53] worked fine in utopic :( [19:53] try 3.19 aha [19:53] hm [19:53] can't, then the sdk is busted [19:53] isn't that supposed to be released soon anyway? [19:53] what? 3.19? [19:53] yeah [19:54] dunno. [19:54] popey, according the phoronix http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-3.19-Kernel-Features "If all goes according to plan the Linux 3.19 kernel will be released by the end of today. " [19:55] popey, so assume vivid will be jumping soon? maybe that'll fix it but i haven't noticed any opengl issues thus far [19:55] hmmm [19:55] my laptop crawls [19:56] i should benchmark it with pts [19:56] :) [19:56] then boot back to older utopic kernel to see if it's any better [19:56] yeah [19:56] * popey installs [19:57] popey, top gear bbl o/ [19:58] \o/ [21:16] diddledan: ping! [21:26] diddledan: 23:10 http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/#.VNfJJiDF8eZ [22:23] evening all [22:26] evening o/ [22:26] hows it going daftykins ? [22:26] mmm not too bad ta, stocked up on some beers for the night, vacuumed the house some more... now settling in :) [22:27] and yourself? [22:27] brill thanks, just had a total ubuntu server geek out lol [22:31] ooh how so? [22:31] set one up? [22:32] 2 identical ubuntu servers, KVM running 5 vms, syncing the disks to a second server using glusterfs :D [22:32] redundancy :D [22:33] :o [22:33] yeah i'm sad on a sunday night lol [22:33] are all the same VMs able to fire up on the backup automatically? [22:34] that's the next project, I have a spare server, that i'll setup as a storage device so I can look into auto failover :D [22:34] I'm getting there [22:34] slight overkill for a home setup hee hee [22:34] the fun stuff often is :) [22:34] :) [22:35] i need to get around to upgrading these 10.04.4 VMs i run, soon - before the April chop [22:35] slightly quicker to setup than on centos. [22:35] one just runs irssi, the other is a little web server [22:35] I'm using latest LTS, always stick with LTS versions [22:37] *nod* [22:37] pretty scary i've been on these for 5 years [22:37] running the -72 kernel now, oy vey that's a lot of updates [23:05] (5 mins 'till that Falcon launch) [23:07] ... or not. [23:10] but it's not the Millennium? [23:10] I just wanna see them try to land it again. but it's aborted today [23:12] again? sigh [23:23] d'aww