[02:40] <pleia2> d'oh, I didn't know there was a San Diego one either!
[02:41] <pleia2> would have social mediaed it on the california account :\
[02:42] <pleia2> I'll add it to the jam wiki for historical tracking
[02:42] <nhaines> pleia2: nobody knew about it!
[02:42] <pleia2> I just checked the mailing list, thinking I'd missed the announcement
[02:42] <nhaines> pleia2: http://i.imgur.com/ET7WDW1.png
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[02:43] <pleia2> hehe
[02:43] <pleia2> I guess it was on loco.ubuntu.com, but I guess I don't navigate directly to the california team page very often :)
[02:43] <ianorlin> I do sometimes
[02:43] <ianorlin> but check email more often
[02:43] <nhaines> I avoid the loco directory as a rule but I've had to put events up there anyway.
[02:44] <ianorlin> pleia2, find anything intersting in the jam?
[02:44] <pleia2> ianorlin: the san francisco one is tomorrow :)
[02:44] <ianorlin> ah
[02:44] <DonkeyHotei> so is berkeleylug
[02:45] <DonkeyHotei> at the same time, even
[02:45] <pleia2> yeah, berkeleylug is noon-3, jam is noon-5, so I invited them over post-jam :)
[02:45] <pleia2> err post, berkeleylug
[02:45] <DonkeyHotei> loco page says 1-5
[02:45] <DonkeyHotei> it's 12-5?
[02:45] <pleia2> where does it say 1-5?
[02:46] <pleia2> the loco.ubuntu.com has noon, the wiki doesn't have a time at all (oops)
[02:46]  * pleia2 fixes wiki
[02:46] <DonkeyHotei> ah, i didn't refresh the page, says 12-5 now
[02:47] <DonkeyHotei> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-california/2984-ubuntu-california-san-francisco-qa-jam/
[02:47] <darthrobot> Title: [Ubuntu California San Francisco QA Jam | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal]
[02:47] <DonkeyHotei> that page
[02:47] <pleia2> weird
[02:47] <pleia2> but it definitely is noon-5
[02:49] <DonkeyHotei> now it does
[02:49] <DonkeyHotei> after i refreshed
[02:49] <DonkeyHotei> said 1-3 before
[02:49] <DonkeyHotei> oops, i mean 1-5
[02:50] <pleia2> not sure what to tell you, unless someone else edited it at some point, it was always noon - 5
[02:50]  * nhaines edits the wiki again.
[02:50] <nhaines> Or *was* it?
[02:50] <pleia2> that's what my announcement from the 13th says too (noon-5), which I forwarded everywhere
[02:52] <pleia2> anyway I guess I'm waiting until the morning to grab fresh isos, the xubuntu ones come down around 10:00 UTC, Lubuntu looking to be around 1700 or later, bah
[02:53] <ianorlin> yep Lubuntu is like that
[02:53] <ianorlin> the alternate comes donw first
[02:53] <pleia2> ah, good to know
[02:54] <pleia2> doing just PPC for Lubuntu, bringing along a CD-R or Alternate and DVD-R for currently oversized Desktop PPC
[02:55] <DonkeyHotei> will there be usb sticks for optical-less machines?
[02:55] <nhaines> Or optical drives?
[02:55] <pleia2> I'm only doing USB sticks for the Xubuntu stuff
[02:55] <pleia2> the discs are just for the PPC machine
[02:55] <DonkeyHotei> ah ok
[02:56] <pleia2> I'm not even sure it boots from USB, never tried :)
[02:56] <DonkeyHotei> it can boot from firewire but not usb
[02:57] <pleia2> figures
[03:08] <ianorlin> might bring a disk of plop as well
[03:09] <pleia2> plop?
[03:09] <nhaines> I had that once.  Doctor gave me a cream and cleared it right up.
[03:09] <ianorlin> http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/index.html
[03:09] <darthrobot> Title: [Plop Boot Manager 5.0 - Table of Contents]
[03:12] <pleia2> we're doing iso testing, so if there are boot problems that's a failed test
[03:12] <pleia2> not overly concerned with bringing along tools to fix that (like we would for an installfest)
[03:15] <DonkeyHotei> i've seen machines with a bios that prohibited booting from cd but not from floppy
[03:17] <ianorlin> that is more for when motherboard won't boot off usb
[03:33] <pleia2> I'll keep it in mind :)
[06:43] <elky> ianorlin: rww suggests you were doing meeting stuff from last fortnight at some point?
[06:43] <ianorlin> I changed the topic
[06:43] <elky> that's all?
[06:43] <ianorlin> not any forum or minutes stuff sorry
[06:44] <elky> hoo boy.
[06:44] <elky> next meeting is tomorrow. could you do an email while i get the web stuff in order?
[06:44] <elky> unless nhaines did already?
[06:46] <ianorlin> ok yes I can send the email
[06:48] <elky> except i can't even load the wiki right now
[06:57] <elky> because rww is installing debian
[06:57] <rww> and we have slow internet because we have cheap comcast
[06:57] <DonkeyHotei> cheap comcast is faster than anything non-comcast
[06:57] <elky> we don't even have broadband if the fcc does the right thing
[06:58] <rww> DonkeyHotei: yeah, I concluded this too
[06:58] <rww> AT&T is the only other option I could find here, and it was less speed for more money
[06:58] <DonkeyHotei> aren't you in walnut creek?
[06:58] <rww> nope, north of the bridges
[06:58] <elky> and arguably more evil
[06:59] <DonkeyHotei> solano county?
[06:59] <rww> yep
[06:59] <DonkeyHotei> how far from the CO?
[06:59] <rww> the what
[07:00] <DonkeyHotei> https://www.sonic.com/availability
[07:00] <darthrobot> Title: [Check Availability | Internet, Phone + TV | SONIC]
[07:00] <rww> I already looked into them, answer was no.
[07:00] <rww> Along with every other ISP you can think of, I expect.
[07:00] <DonkeyHotei> look again
[07:02] <rww> "The Sonic address qualification tool is down for maintenance every night between the hours of 11PM and 2AM PST."
[07:02] <rww> god only knows why
[07:02] <nhaines> rww: so it can be cleaned and put back each night.
[07:03] <DonkeyHotei> would've been nice to check 3 minutes earlier
[07:03] <nhaines> Yeah.  that's really just poor planning on your part.
[07:04] <rww> I'll check it tomorrow, if I remember. Checked it not that long ago (month or two?) though, so...
[07:04] <rww> on the other hand, if they did suddenly get service here, I'm not in-contract with Comcast so yay
[07:05] <DonkeyHotei> it tells you your distance from the CO
[07:05] <elky> ianorlin: are you doing the meeting wiki stuff? thiings keep changing and i keep getting lockouts because you're editing
[07:05] <rww> is this one of those side questions that determines why I don't have ISP coverage when what I actually care about is that I don't have ISP coverage
[07:06] <ianorlin> Yes I am doing meeting wiki stuff
[07:06] <elky> ok i'll leave you to it, thanks :)
[17:28]  * nhaines considers canceling tonight's meeting because Better Call Saul is debuting coterminously.
[17:28] <nhaines> Maybe not. :)
[17:43]  * pleia2 yawns
[17:43] <pleia2> pulling down 2/8 isos and putting on usb sticks
[17:43] <pleia2> this is probably the most difficult part of jams, all the needs-to-be-done-last-minute stuff due to the daily iso testing release cycle
[17:43] <pleia2> doing things last minute gives me hives :)
[17:46] <nhaines> haha
[17:46] <nhaines> Just think of the excitement!
[17:47] <pleia2> mostly I'm fretting about usb-creator-gtk taking like a 100 years per usb stick, I have 8 to do!
[17:47]  * pleia2 fires up some additional machines to speed production
[17:48] <akk> Could you use dd after the first one?
[17:48] <pleia2> unfortunately not, dd is murder on cheap usb sticks
[17:49] <akk> slow also? or is it bad for them somehow?
[17:49] <pleia2> really slow and since dd is block by block it does more writing than these things are typically prepared to handle
[18:48] <MichaelPaoli> Ubuntu California San Francisco QA Jam http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-california/2984-ubuntu-california-san-francisco-qa-jam/ preceded by Ubuntu Hour Berkeley http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-california/2987-ubuntu-hour-berkeley/
[18:48] <darthrobot> Title: [Ubuntu California San Francisco QA Jam | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal]
[18:48] <darthrobot> Title: [Ubuntu Hour Berkeley | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal]
[21:04] <rww> hello from QA Jam!
[21:10] <ianorlin> hi
[21:31] <nhaines> rww: how's it going?
[21:32] <rww> nhaines: done testing on one computer, installing on another now
[21:33] <rww> me, elky, jyo, pleia2, and einfeldt are here right now
[22:13] <rww> DonkeyHotei and a few others just showed up :)
[22:23] <MichaelPaoli> Howdy, ... fair number still at BerkeleyLUG ... and I'm sure some of us will be joining Global Jam a little later (and some may have already headed there or already be there).
[22:25] <pleia2> thanks for the heads up :)
[22:31] <nhaines> pleia2: translation: need more salad.
[22:32] <elky> i think they just came from a pizza place, if they need more then they should take a doggy bag
[22:46] <MichaelPaoli> Salad sounds good.  :-) ... I was even thinking that earlier ... already did pizza here. ... of course cookies and/or refreshments work great too.  :-)
[22:49] <DonkeyHotei> hi folks, connecting with pidgin in the xubuntu live session here at global jam, and already reported a bug!
[22:58] <MichaelPaoli> Several headed towards Global Jam - I'll be en route too quite shortly.
[22:58] <danielg4> apparently xubuntu has a second irc client as well, Thunderbird
[22:58] <rww> You want the building that looks like https://www.flickr.com/photos/pleia2/16264158220/in/photostream/
[22:58] <darthrobot> Title: [121 2nd Street | Flickr - Photo Sharing!]
[22:59] <danielg4> rww is next to me
[22:59] <DonkeyHotei> and me!
[23:55] <elky> i just added "bug jam reports" as an agenda item
[23:56] <elky> hopefully phillip and/or co. will appear and tell us something about the San Diego one since we know nothing of it
[23:57] <nhaines> Perhaps it was all a dream.
[23:58] <rww> careful elky, insisting on event organization and reporting got people ousted by LC in the past :P
[23:58] <nhaines> Even when they weren't in charge!