[04:46] good morning [05:02] Maaz: tell Kilos you are late [05:02] inetpro: Sure, I'll tell Kilos on freenode [05:03] Maaz: tell Kilos copying still has another hour to go [05:03] inetpro: Righto, I'll tell Kilos on freenode [06:23] hahaha good morning south africa [06:23] i got ethiopia interested wooot [06:23] hi inetpro [06:23] cheeky one [06:34] wow inetpro copying done? [06:45] hi Tonberry [06:45] hello [08:11] [08/02/2015 10:11] Oh, by the way, the Ubuntu-ZA website is really stunning. [08:20] I happened to be testing Ubuntu on my phone when I saw his email, and the site looks beautiful on the Ubuntu phone browser too. [08:20] go superfly [08:31] now we hold thumbs the fly gets a phone [12:48] thanks inetpro :D [12:51] lo highvoltage [12:57] ohi superfly [12:58] hi Kilos [12:58] we one step closer [12:59] are you near lion thinker? [13:03] highvoltage many happy returns to you.may there be many more happy and successful ones [13:05] Squirm ping [13:06] oh nm ill teach new bot from scratch [13:12] thanks Kilos! [13:12] wish i was 21 again [13:12] what would you do different? [13:12] learn to code [13:12] not too late :) [13:35] anyone in here? [13:36] lol ive tried, but head too stubborn to store new stuff [13:37] i really want to do python but ram not hot [13:37] yes inetpro [13:37] qwebirc56994 yes [13:37] it is you hey goosie [13:38] ? [13:38] Hi, I wanted to find out about ubuntu-za loco team. how active are you, and what do you do [13:39] we are always active and we all have different projects we are working on [13:39] no, I'm not goosie [13:40] what is it that gives you guys that funny nick? [13:41] samsung cells? [13:41] I'd be interested in getting involved somehow, where would I find out about some of your projects [13:42] ok qwebirc56994 you started at the right place [13:42] my projest is #ubuntu-africa [13:42] I'm just logged in via the website, no nick [13:42] project [13:42] read the links in the topic bar [13:44] no links, I am using the web irc at https://ubuntu-za.org/irc.html [13:44] ok ill get them for you [13:45] oh, I get it [13:45] qwebirc56994: subscribe to the mailing list, see https://ubuntu-za.org/getting-involved.html [13:49] hi @superfly I might just do that, how active is the mailing list? [13:49] it is mainly used to support peeps who need help qwebirc56994 [13:50] so when someone needs linux help then it gets active [13:51] but look at our site and you will see superfly 's latest project in action [13:51] ok, that would have been handy with my recent battery usage/fan at maximum issue I suppose [13:52] we have had queries about similar probs before [13:53] Ok that sounds helpfull. Do you ever do physical projects like setup computer labs at schools or the like? [13:54] we have members on the list running labs [13:54] they dont have time for irc as well [13:54] but some of us live on irc because answers are quicker [13:57] between here and our mailing list you will get all you need to know [13:57] Ok I did subscribe to the mailing list, let's see what comes of it. How about the monthly IRC meetings? [13:57] next meeting here is on the 24th [13:57] if you have something youd like to discuss you add it to the agenda [13:58] im not sure but i think our link in the topic bar still needs to be moved to the new site [13:59] you can leave your suggestion here and one of the involved guys will add it for you [14:04] No I'll probably just join to 'observe'. Nothing in particular at this point [14:05] cool you are welcome to hang here 24/7 [14:05] tell us a bit about yourself [14:06] and getting an irc client installed will help you [14:07] I'm not a developer, I'm a user and open source enthusiast. Been using it at home since must be about ubuntu 06.04 or there abouts. [14:07] saves using a browser to get here and you can set a nick [14:08] thats great [14:08] For work unfortunately I have to use windows. [14:08] yes some of our guys have the same issue [14:09] But I do dual boot at the moment. My previous laptop I only had windows as a virtual machine on virtualbox. I still need to liberate this one. [14:09] hehe [14:10] didnt unity turn you off a bit? [14:10] i still have it in 14.04 but main os is kubuntu now [14:12] No, I have seen all the kick back from that but I find it good to use for all my needs. I'ts much faster if you know which app you want to run, just hit the home button and type the first few letters and hit enter [14:12] no need for a menu [14:12] ya it works well for some, by me i always had some hassle after a while [14:13] but... if you don't know what you want, it's a bit more tricky cause you can't troll through the menus [14:13] lol [14:13] kde has everything [14:13] more menus that most can ever use [14:13] qwebirc56994: not everyone in here (or on the mailing list) is a developer [14:13] unless you a dev guy of course [14:13] Kilos: are you a developer? [14:14] nope im a mechanic [14:14] hi Neo31 [14:14] qwebirc56994: ^^ my case in point [14:14] hi Neo31 [14:14] aw superfly jibu died [14:15] you killed him [14:15] I tried the cairo doc the other day, and there I could access the menu again, but I took it off again. No I like it just the way it is. [14:15] Kilos: my ssh connection died [14:15] hi Kilos :) [14:15] thats good qwebirc56994 one must use what they are comfortable with [14:15] yo superDuperFly ^_^ [14:15] how are you doing? :) [14:16] tired -_- [14:17] @Kilos, which irc client would you recommend for unity [14:17] hexchat [14:17] or xchat [14:17] but xchat isnt supported anymore [14:18] so its not evolving with everything else [14:18] but still works [14:19] hi clr [14:19] hexchat it is then [14:19] cool [14:20] also if you are like me you can use many workspaces and leave hexchat on its own space [14:20] xchat is what ? [14:21] its an irc chat client Neo31 [14:21] yep that's what i use [14:21] not everyone can use irssi [14:21] why is it not recommended [14:21] yep irssi is cool [14:21] haha then why ask what is xchat [14:21] otherwise xchat is a cool gui irc client [14:22] they have stopped support for xchat [14:22] i wanted to know what u mean when u said xchat isn't evolving [14:22] no more dev work being done on it [14:22] seriously!? [14:22] when did that happen? [14:22] * Neo31 is feeling sad :/ [14:22] yeah that was last i heard [14:22] hexchat is very similar [14:23] hum [14:23] i'll give it a try [14:23] lmost like a fork [14:23] u sure it is confirmed they dropped support for xchat? [14:23] maybe i'll just get back to irssi :p [14:23] i havent bothered to follow up on it because i use konversation [14:24] nah i don't like konversation [14:24] i will digg more around the xchat thing [14:24] ha tell me why [14:24] i'm a kde guy and unity hater Kilos [14:24] my konversation is setup to look just like xchat [14:24] lol [14:25] i love kopete and xchat for the gui [14:25] kopete is kde [14:25] unfortunately kopete is not advancing as it used to be lately [14:25] :/ [14:25] lol [14:25] yeah but still xchat is a better irc client than both of them [14:25] pidgin is what i use [14:26] yes xchat is cool [14:26] kopete is the best it just needs to follow up with some new stuff [14:26] i used it for years [14:26] i'll dig around and try hexchat :) [14:27] cool [14:27] maybe that will be better [14:27] or i'll just get back to irssi :p [14:27] thats what is nice about linux, you can try everything till you find what suits you best [14:28] but xchat still works so dont worry yet [14:28] ok [14:28] xchat for gui irssi for cli suites me well right now [14:28] good [14:28] but i still wanna check the xchat support thing [14:28] one must be happy with his apps [14:28] don't wanna use an old irc client [14:29] hexchat is new and in the repos i think [14:30] also there is quassel [14:30] most kde peeps use quassel [14:31] i go fetch sheep [14:34] heard of it but never used quassel, i'll give it a try also [14:34] have you guys followed the ubuntu phone launch at all? It looks like a nice phone, I'd like to get my hands on one [14:35] you can install the client on a server somewhere and use it to bounce you when afk and using cell [14:35] i think everyone wants one [14:35] is it launched yet clr ? [14:36] i know of the unboxing video on youtube [14:36] but still waiting for the launch [14:36] yes I think on friday [14:36] still not available for sale yet clr [14:37] right? [14:37] the launch was in London, it's a BQ phone. 'flash' sales starting in a week or so in europe [14:39] http://www.engadget.com/2015/02/06/ubuntu-phone-launch/ [14:39] it will be available online in a week clr ? [14:39] or just in shops [14:39] i wanna get one, but it needs to be available online so i can ask friends from europe to get me one [14:41] judging by the article it will be online flash sales, what that means I am not sure. [14:42] flash sales means limited numbers and/or with deadlines [14:42] there might be several flash sales [14:42] it will be out in several bathes [14:43] batches [14:43] yes, the details of which I am not sure of. Anyway, i know Xiaomi will also be launching a device (probably with higher specs) soon. Will have to wait for that one. [14:43] just wanted to make sure it will be online and there will be enough so i can ask a friend to get me one [14:44] I have a feeling my note3 will be replaced by an ubuntu phone come the end of my contract [14:44] i'm good with bq right now [14:44] if i don't pay much i will be happy to get another phone when desktop convergence is ready and pay much for that one :p [14:44] maybe next year hopefully [14:45] yea, exciting times [14:45] if i pay for a high end phone and get another high end phone next year that will be much :p [14:45] you're right, better check it out first [14:46] i might also contribute my Bq phone to my local community if i get my hands on a convergent phone next year :) [14:46] Anyway, good meeting some of you. Will be back later, need to go for a swin [14:46] swim* [14:46] cool clr [14:46] enjoy [14:47] where are you? [14:47] beach near? [14:47] swim!? [14:47] hehe no sadly no beach, but my sparkling pool in PTA [14:47] lol isn't it cold ? [14:47] It's hot as hell [14:47] cool pta peeps are getting more here [14:47] cool enjoy :) [14:48] nice to meet u too clr [14:48] :) [14:48] cheers for now [15:06] haha load shedding solution http://picpaste.com/9k-LzztQfBj.jpeg [15:07] light and warm water all in one [16:30] hmm... [17:18] load shedding again tonight, 20:00-22:30 [17:21] eish [17:21] clr wb [17:21] if you been using ubuntu so long why didnt you come here before man [17:29] didnt you battle with the earlier releases? [17:31] superfly when i find it ill mail you the last ibid daily build, [17:33] when asked to google something it doesnt give the extra line [17:35] http://pellares.com/nivea-yoghurt/ [17:36] hahaha [17:50] Kilos I don't know, I did look around for the local ubuntu team a few times but never really found anyone. I was never a IRC person so guess I didn't come see if there were any life here [17:51] shame here is always the quickest and mostly the best help available [17:51] but you here now so all good hey [17:52] I got by OK by using ubuntuforums, askubuntu etc. [17:53] whew they were too heavy for me to use [17:53] often you get commands to use but they left out sudo then i was lost [17:54] I suppose it's easier just to pop a question in here than to read through loads of posts [17:54] yeah [17:54] we have a nice family of linux users and dev guys and programmers [17:55] and some sysadmin guys as well [17:55] have any of you upgraded libre office to 4.4? [17:55] Good to know [17:56] must be someone, i hardly use office at all [17:56] yes? do you use google docs then? [17:56] nope [17:56] hi captine [17:57] say hi to clr another pta man [17:57] hi kilos [17:57] ? [17:57] hi clr [17:57] just settling in for another live linux action show... although the recording on youtube is more efficient to watch :) [17:57] jblive.tv if you have some gigs to burn... [17:57] nono [17:58] clr do you have uncapped data [17:59] hi there [18:00] Oh, good to know, I also follow some of those (tecsnap, linuxaction show roundup) and BadVoltage. But normally just lisne to the podcast in the car on the way to work [18:01] no I am on telkommobile lte [18:01] have not been able to get adsl where I stayed, but moved in December [18:02] Telkom here tomorrow so I will see what they can do for me [18:02] clr: techsnap is great [18:02] cannot wait for their new Linux howto show [18:02] clr: where do you work? in PTA or JHB [18:02] ? [18:02] sjoe [18:02] Unfortunately looks like the max I can get is 2mbps adsl [18:02] I work in Parktown (JHB) [18:02] driving from Irene everyday [18:02] wow [18:03] found out our boomed area is looking for tenders/proposals for FTTH... Am hopeing in the next 6 months to get fibre [18:03] heavy petrol bill [18:03] 10 meg will save me about R500 per month [18:03] cool. I dont know Jhb well. Stay in randburg and work in honeydew [18:03] so easy travels for me [18:04] we have had these new MSAN boxes around Irene for months but they are not operational, no electricity connection [18:05] so I'll have to do with the 2mbps for now [18:05] eish [18:06] thats worse than 3g but cheaper [18:06] so kilos, am installing xubuntu on a work colleagues old perntium dual core laptop... unity was just too slow [18:06] x is faster [18:06] and lighter [18:06] yip [18:06] will install it on my old macbook core 2 duo as well [18:07] when i get round to it [18:07] nice [18:07] i dont fancy x much [18:08] rather wait that bit longer for kde to do its thing [18:08] yip. i am not really a fan [18:08] was thinking of mate rather... but will give this a bash [18:08] i have a 3g dualcore with 4g ddr2, works well [18:09] mate is nice [18:09] i used mate when unity first came out and slowed stuff down too much [18:09] i love gnome2 [18:12] lol when they first brought out unity i even tried tinycorelinux [18:13] this is a pentium dual cpu T3400 2.16ghz with 2 gig ram and intel GM45 Express Graphics [18:14] ya thats a bit slow [18:14] mate on unity helps lots [18:14] some guys prefer x anyway, he might be happy [18:17] she [18:17] :) [18:17] other colleague is using unity [18:17] if you start the ubuntu trip with x then thats good [18:18] gnome2 spoiled me [18:18] i hope when you get all these peeps on ubuntu you are going to invite them here [18:20] yip.. but my lady colleague hates turning on a computer at home [18:20] so unlikely.... [18:20] I am trying... showed them the new website [18:20] :) [18:20] cool [18:21] i have heard nothing but good about the new site [18:21] even ubuntu-locoteams are impressed [18:22] say it even looks awesome on ubuntu phones [18:23] nice [18:27] what happened to Matt on the LinuxAction Show, was he sent packing? [18:33] he is starting the linux how to show [18:33] so he will be the lead in a show. cannot remember who the co-host is with him [18:34] they kicked it off months back, but it didnt work well, so they re-startign ut [18:34] it [18:38] evening Tonberry [18:43] hi Tonberry [18:43] clr, what kind of work do you do? [18:43] and where did you move to pta from? [18:44] captine, I moved about two km's from my old house in Irene, to my new house [18:44] hehe [18:44] I am a SAP consultant [18:44] yourself? [18:44] lol. [18:44] SAP. Awesome.. my old company used Oracle EBS -- I was on the rollout team for Africa and then Asia... Wish they went with SAP rather... [18:46] Are you still involved with that? Rollout must have been fun, did you do some travelling? [18:51] have any of you had problems with battery life on your laptop with Linux? [18:51] I must say, I installed laptop-mode-tools today and it must have doubled by battery life [18:54] lots of battery life issues [18:55] and in terms of travel, lived in Manila for 20 months [18:55] spent lots of time in Singapore, Malaysia and Hong kong [18:57] Anyone here have experience with using Altera in ubuntu? [19:01] sorry for the question.. my question is also my answer, but what is Altera? [19:02] Probably a vague reference on my part as well. Altera is a company that makes circuitboards, more specifically FPGA's [19:02] I have a Cyclone II [19:03] That I want to play with. But the software is only available for Redhat/CentOS and windows. I don't know how it will play if I install it on an ubuntu machine [19:03] sounds like fun. all the best.. sorry I have no idea on that sort of thing [19:03] ohi gremble hows the grumbler [19:04] Hey Kilos. I've been well thank you. Spent the weekend doing maths, playing boardgames and braaiing. I would say all well and good [19:04] lol yay [19:08] * Symmetria mutters [19:08] my linux box with my new array doesnt have a 10G NIC in it yet [19:09] and heh, one thing Im finding, you need 10G if you gonna do iSCSI propelry [19:09] or at LEAST a coupla LAG'ed gigE's [19:10] Indeedily-do [19:11] heh trying to transfer 25 terabytes of shit onto my new array at home and its gonna take days [19:11] will try borrow some 10G cards from the office tomorrow [19:12] I didn't even know you could measure shit in bytes. On the farm we used to measure it in buckets [19:12] I'm lying of course. I have never lived nor worked on a farm in my life [19:12] rofl [19:13] will say iscsi has come a longgggg way since I first tried to use it in 2007 [19:13] its useable now ;p [19:13] I got a Dell server today :O [19:13] lekker [19:14] gremble which one [19:14] dell servers are nice, I swear by those things for a lot of applications ;p [19:14] dell > HP ;p [19:14] PowerEdge 860, Symmetria [19:14] http://pastebin.com/mbnDzqdv <=== thats my new home array [19:15] lol gonna take a LONG time to finish init'ing that [19:15] Dunno where I am going to put it though [19:15] I tend to buy R720's for a lot of things [19:16] My friend bought this for something like R650 [19:16] or something in that regard [19:16] including the rails [19:16] heh what cpus and ram are in it [19:17] I love these disks, they are fast as hell, but when I'm in the states again Im gonna buy slower disks that are larger (similar price) for the other machine [19:17] you can now buy 8TB disks for around $300 a pop there [19:17] Oh nice [19:17] in that raid as per the pastebin Im running 6 x 6TB disks [19:18] but those 6TB disks are NAS grade 7200 RPM disks [19:18] (also around $300 a pop) [19:19] TheseHe gave me the specifications, but it does not look like the one he said [19:19] I will have a look once I boot it uo [19:19] up* [19:25] good evening [19:25] wb gremble [19:25] oh and hi clr [19:25] welcome to #ubuntu-za [19:26] Kilos: I'm operational again [19:27] Hey inetpro [19:27] hi inetpro [19:28] wb inetpro [19:28] oh and I figured that my USB ports are all simply USB 2.0 [19:28] even tested speed with pv [19:28] pv? [19:28] oh on the laptop [19:28] $ aptitude show pv [19:29] Shell pipeline element to meter data passing through [19:30] writing happens at 30MB/s and reading goes to 2.5GB/s [19:31] thats good enough man [19:31] $ cat /dev/zero | pv > /media/some_usb/tmp123 [19:31] $ cat /media/some_usb/tmp123 | pv > dev/null [19:32] first command is to test writing speed and the 2nd is to test reading [19:33] USB 3.0 would be nicer but this is not bad at all [19:33] 30mB/s on a usb is fast [19:34] im happy when i get near 10 [19:45] aw the grumbler gone [20:45] night all. sleep tight