[00:14] <rosaecaeruleae> where do I ask why all videos I edit dont have sound?
[01:07] <xubuntu430> Hello, could I ask a question?
[01:07] <knome> go ahead
[01:08] <xubuntu430> I actually have a problem, I ran /sudo apt-get install nvidia-current, and the boot screen no longer shows up. It's not a big problem, but I was wondering what was causing it.
[01:09] <knome> proprietary nvidia drivers do not like plymouth, so if you're using one, you'll likely not see it
[01:09] <xubuntu430> Okay.
[01:09] <knome> anyway it's nothing to worry about
[01:10] <xubuntu430> Thank you for the answer :)
[01:10] <knome> no problem, enjoy xubuntu
[02:50] <dalebert> Looking for help with Screensaver on 14.04. Been running 32 bit version for a couple of years and set up a system with the 64-bit version. The GLText screen was working but I made a change to what I wanted it to display and it broke. Can't even launch it to work on it. Tried uninstalling it completely and reinstalling but no luck. Stumped...
[02:51] <cfhowlett> dalebert, xscreensaver can cause conflicts with lightdm locker.
[02:51] <dalebert> should i uninstall lightdm locker?
[02:53] <cfhowlett> dalebert, lightdm is now the default for ubuntu.  your choice
[02:55] <dalebert> how to i configure lightdm? I like to display the date and time.
[05:04] <vivek_malhotra> hello all
[05:21] <vivek_malhotra> anyone still awake??
[05:27] <GeekDude> no
[05:33] <vivek_malhotra> hry
[05:33] <vivek_malhotra> anyone still awake??
[05:33] <vivek_malhotra> I had a quick question
[05:34] <vivek_malhotra> Does Xubuntu 14.10 still use Xfce 4.10?
[05:34] <vivek_malhotra> when is Xfce 4.12 coming out
[05:34] <vivek_malhotra> development is crazy-slow
[05:34] <vivek_malhotra> I like Xfce a lot
[05:59] <Unit193> vivek_malhotra: Xubuntu has been using the development releases (4.11, which is really pre-4.12) for a while now.  What do you base "development is slow" on?  The mailing list?  The git commits?  Neither seem slow to me.
[05:59] <Unit193> And, 4.12 should be out soon™
[06:07] <vivek_malhotra> Unit193: fair enough, I base it on the mailing list mostly.
[06:08] <vivek_malhotra> how can I tell which Xfce version I'm running?
[06:10] <Unit193> Generally the applications respond to --version, and inxi -S is another way.
[06:11] <vivek_malhotra> mousepad --version  gave me 0.3.0
[06:11] <vivek_malhotra> okay, "inxi -S" gave me 4.11.6
[06:11] <vivek_malhotra> I'm running Xubuntu 14.04
[06:11] <vivek_malhotra> with all the latest updates
[06:12] <Unit193> Mousepad is a seperate application, developed by Xfce devs (basically.)
[06:12] <Unit193> dpkg -l | grep xfce works too. :P
[06:12] <vivek_malhotra> What's an example of an Xfce application that'll give me the version number?
[06:12] <vivek_malhotra> yeah dpkg too
[06:13] <Unit193> xfdesktop, xfwm4, xfce4-panel, etc.
[06:13] <Unit193> Those are somwhat core.
[06:13] <vivek_malhotra> okay, thanks
[06:14] <Unit193> Sure.
[06:22] <vivek_malhotra> Are you based in Ohio? It's quite late there...
[06:22] <vivek_malhotra> Unit193: Are you based in Ohio? It's quite late there...
[06:23] <Unit193> Pardon?
[06:23] <vivek_malhotra> Unit193: Are you based in Ohio? It's quite late there...
[06:24] <Unit193> Yes, you already said that.  Don't see how that's relevent to Xubuntu support, but sure.
[06:25] <vivek_malhotra> It's not. Don't be so uptight. I was just going to say thanks for helping me so late in the evening. It's well past midnight for you.
[06:26] <Unit193> Well, you're welcome.
[06:29] <vivek_malhotra> Again, thanks for all that you do for the Xubuntu community. Xubuntu has really been a huge help for me, and I really rely on it for my work.
[06:29] <vivek_malhotra> I rely on it as a home desktop, but also for my work in software development and engineering
[06:30] <vivek_malhotra> A few more questions while we're here....
[06:31] <vivek_malhotra> When is Mir supposed to be included in a release? 15.04? I welcome a replacement for X Windows, but I'm nervous the transuition will be messy
[06:31] <vivek_malhotra> It'll take until the end of the decade, I think, for the Linux world to migrate from X Windows to Wayland/Mir...
[06:32] <vivek_malhotra> What are your thoughts, Unit193?
[06:33] <Unit193> Xfce isn't going to it any time soon, so as to Ubuntu/Unity, there's already an 'desktop-next' unity8 slated for sometime around the next LTS.
[06:35] <vivek_malhotra> I see
[06:36] <vivek_malhotra> Another thing... I'm running Xubuntu 14.04. I know Firefox updates regularly, and the updates always include the latest version as soon as it's released. But for other apps, like LibreOffice or HexChat, I'm stuck on an older release. How can I obtain newer versions of these softwares?
[06:36] <vivek_malhotra> Unit193: I'm wondering if I'm simply stuck, or if I can still get the latest version somehow
[06:37] <vivek_malhotra> Unit193: For example, I'm running HexChat 2.9.6, which is what is used in Xubuntu 14.04. But the latest HexChat is 2.10.2. How can I upgrade to that?
[07:49] <vivek_malhotra> Unit193: For example, I'm running HexChat 2.9.6, which is what is used in Xubuntu 14.04. But the latest HexChat is 2.10.2. How can I upgrade to that?
[07:51] <baizon> vivek_malhotra: use the hexchat ppa https://launchpad.net/~gwendal-lebihan-dev/+archive/ubuntu/hexchat-stable
[07:52] <vivek_malhotra> baizon: thanks a lot
[07:52] <vivek_malhotra> what about other apps, like LibreOffice
[07:52] <vivek_malhotra> I don't want to have to compile that sucker from source!
[07:55] <baizon> vivek_malhotra: well if you want the latest software, i would recommend to use xubuntu 14.10, not the lts
[07:56] <baizon> vivek_malhotra: but back to your question, here is the libreoffice ppa https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[08:00] <vivek_malhotra> baizon: you're probably right
[08:00] <vivek_malhotra> baizon: thanks for your help
[08:10] <cfhowlett> vivek_malhotra, bleeding edge is bloody.  Unless you truly NEED the latest, greatest, shiny stuff, you *might* want to reconsider you priorities.  LTS means WAY fewer installation/maintenance headaches.  Choose wisely.
[08:11] <vivek_malhotra> cfhowlett: how so? I though the 14.10 release was quite stable and well-received.
[08:11] <vivek_malhotra> cfhowlett: how so? I heard that the 14.10 release was quite stable and well-received.
[08:12] <cfhowlett> vivek_malhotra, supported for 9 months.  9 MONTHS.
[08:19] <vivek_malhotra> cfhowlett: right... it's just that some of the software in LTS releases get a bit stale
[08:19] <cfhowlett> vivek_malhotra, true.  as I said: choose wisely.  also: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:20] <vivek_malhotra> cfhowlett: okay thanks
[08:20] <vivek_malhotra> cfhowlett: i think i'll just jump over to Windows 8
[08:20] <vivek_malhotra> cfhowlett: just kidding!!
[08:25] <vivek_malhotra> .tr en:de the car is red
[09:44] <Timvde> Hi. I am installing Xubuntu on a very old pc that can't boot from usb. Is there any way to easily shrink the iso files (remove stuff I don't need) so it fits on a cd?
[09:47] <Timvde> oh, look what I found :) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[15:31] <GeekDude> Unit193: Turns out I couldn't ping it by hostname anymore because I enabled the firewall and didn't add a rule for it. I'll just leave the firewall off, the one on our router is more than adequate
[15:33] <xubuntu60w> Hi. After a fresh install of 14.10 my panel is slow (~3-5 seconds) to load the theme. It's not a big deal but it is annoying. Gnome and KDE services are off at startup and additinal startup items are minimal. Anyone have any suggestions?
[15:49] <bazhang> try a different theme, is that slow as well
[16:00] <xubuntu60w> well, it's greybird so it should be quick considering it's the default, but I'll give it a try. thanks.
[16:16] <xubuntu60w> Hi. Panel theme (greybird) is loading slowly on login/restart on a new install of 14.10. I've tried switching to a different theme. Autostart items are at a minimum and gnome/KDE services are off. Any thoughts?
[16:19] <GeekDude> ... didn't you just ask that a minute ago?
[16:19] <GeekDude> anyways, I don't have any idea, I'm just a noob
[16:34] <brainwash> xubuntu60w: create ~/.gtkrc-2.0 and add this line: gtk-theme-name = "Greybird"
[16:36] <xubuntu60w> @brainwash: thanks---I'll give that a try now.
[16:36] <brainwash> the actual question is: why does xfsettingsd launch slow/delayed in your case? it's responsible for the appearance settings
[16:37] <brainwash> or why does the panel start before xfsettingsd
[16:38] <brainwash> xubuntu60w: would be helpful to know if this problem also affects other user accounts or the quest session
[16:38] <xubuntu60w> Yeah, that's what I was wondering. I've tried manually restarting it. No change. It's not a huge deal, but it is annoying. 3-5 seconds of light grey panel before it kicks in. Looks janky, but not the end of the world.
[16:41] <xubuntu60w> Quest session? Sorry, I'm not exactly a power user. I'm the only user account account.     .gtkrc-2.0 was in /~, but was empty. Going to edit it now and try logging back in. BRB.
[16:45] <brainwash> xubuntu60w: I meant Guest Session
[16:47] <xubuntu60w> @brainwash: adding that line to .gtkrc-2.0 did the trick. BIG thanks. The panel is loading nice and quick again after login and full restart.
[16:47] <brainwash> that's great :)
[16:48] <xubuntu60w> ha. quest =guest, I feel silly for not catching that.
[16:48] <xubuntu60w> Anyways thanks again :)
[16:49] <brainwash> found this report  bug 1382741
[16:49] <brainwash> the report describes your problem, but it's not the main issue
[16:49] <brainwash> so it was ignored
[16:50] <brainwash> "This also happens during right after login: xfce4-panel is all grey and what not, eventually switching to greybird, however (after 5s or so)."
[16:50] <xubuntu60w> yeah, that sounds exactly like what it was doing.
[16:51] <xubuntu60w> like I said -- not a huge deal -- but annoying enough to hop on IRC and ask around.
[16:51] <brainwash> do you have a launchpad account? you could create a separate report
[16:52] <brainwash> and also mention the workaround
[16:52] <brainwash> yeah, it looks like something that may affect only a small amount of people. still worth fixing it at some point :)
[16:53] <xubuntu60w> I can set one up and create a report. looks like it's fixed for 15.04. https://www.mail-archive.com/xubuntu-dev@lists.launchpad.net/msg02958.html
[16:54] <brainwash> no, the themeing problem with Qt apps is fixed
[16:54] <xubuntu60w> Ah, there I go skimming things again.
[16:54] <brainwash> but not the problem with the delay on session start
[16:54] <brainwash> heh :)
[16:56] <xubuntu60w> cool. gonna make another pot of coffee. I'll file a report right after that. thanks again BW :)
[18:10] <Unit193> GeekDude: Aha, yeah that'd do it.  Other than a few iptables rules I just use the router too, it serves that use well.
[18:10] <GeekDude> The print server is working great, at least. I managed to AirPrint from it without any additional configuration!
[18:29] <BuddyButterfly> hi guys.
[18:29] <BuddyButterfly> first, thanks for the great slimline OS!
[18:29] <BuddyButterfly> I am using it right now successfully in VMs in Xen.
[18:31] <BuddyButterfly>  Yesterday I tried to install it in kvm with spice. Unfortunately xubuntu is not usable in this scenario. Graphics is slow and sometimes complete fonts are crippled (all headlines, menu entries etc.) which renders it unusable. Any Idea, why this happens? Xubuntu 14.10 even does not start at all after installation. Where 14.04 does. I did a check with Kubuntu, which works nicely with the same VM settings.
[19:15] <Mobbad> how do i hide folders in xubuntu?
[19:16] <bekks> Mobbad: Whats the goal behind that?
[19:18] <Mobbad> So ppl that are snopping around on my comp wont see my files or folders
[19:18] <GeekDude> If you are allowed to rename it, start the file with a .
[19:18] <GeekDude> er, the folder
[19:19] <Mobbad> er?
[19:23] <bazhang>   .myfilez
[19:25] <bekks> Mobbad: For people snoopig around, you need to encrypt a folder.
[19:25] <bekks> Snooping people usually are able to press ctrl h to "unhide" your "hidden" folders.
[19:26] <Mobbad> bekks, true that but i know that i dont need to encrypt the folder just hidde it
[19:27] <bekks> How do you know that?
[19:38] <Mobbad> bekks, becuse my kid aint that bright yet
[19:39] <Mobbad> bekks, dont worry found it :D
[19:39] <Mobbad> thanks for the time
[20:02] <Erisian_Vagabond> How do I stop programs in wine from stealing mouse foucs, or at least get it back without closing it?
[20:02] <Erisian_Vagabond> Euro truck simulator 2 always steals my mouse, even in windowed mode
[20:08] <bazhang> try in #winehq for specific app support, also see the appdb
[20:08] <bazhang> !appdb
[20:08] <Erisian_Vagabond> Well, it needs to have mouse focus for some controls
[20:08] <Erisian_Vagabond> Just wondering if there was an easy way to get it back while paused or in menus
[20:09] <bazhang>  Join #winehq for application help
[20:10] <Erisian_Vagabond> As in, something in the window manager
[20:10] <Erisian_Vagabond> Not in wine
[20:12] <brainwash> Erisian_Vagabond: alt-tabbing maybe?
[20:15] <Erisian_Vagabond> brainwash: alt-tab didn't seem to have any effect
[20:15] <Erisian_Vagabond> What should it have done?
[20:16] <brainwash> it switches between opened windows
[20:16] <Erisian_Vagabond> Hmm, didn't do anything on just a thunar window either
[20:16] <Erisian_Vagabond> Ah, so I need another one in that workspace
[20:16] <brainwash> yes
[20:36] <Craxor> Hello, I am running Xubuntu 14.04 LTS.  Every so often, I get a notification saying Power Manager not authorized.  Any ideas why this is?
[20:43] <wglb> running xfce on "Linux park 3.13.0-45-generic #74-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jan 13 19:36:28 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux" with seiki 4k 39". I have power screen turned off, screen saver turned off. Nonetheless, screen blanks after a time, won't come back. graphics card radeon RD890. Power Manager version 1.2.0.  Ideas?
[20:55] <brainwash> wglb: how did you turn off the screen saver?
[20:56] <brainwash> also, please share the output of the command "xset q"
[20:56] <brainwash> ideally via pastebin
[21:03] <wglb> brainwash: Set it to zero time, blank screen
[21:05] <wglb> brainwash: http://pastebin.com/b6UZ7V9e
[21:06] <brainwash> according to the terminal output, the screen should not blank automatically
[21:07] <brainwash> so, you said that the screen will stay blank, right?
[21:08] <wglb> Yes.
[21:08] <wglb> Agreeeeed.
[21:08] <brainwash> can you switch to another virtual terminal (e.g. ctrl+alt+f1)?
[21:09] <wglb> Actually, didn't try that.      I will log into one so that I can switch to it blind.
[21:09] <brainwash> it's possible that your session and the X server crashed
[21:09] <brainwash> or hang
[21:09] <brainwash> do you use the open source driver?
[21:10] <wglb> Well, I ssh from other box, and all looks ok. a  program was still  running
[21:10] <wglb> Yes, I did when this, have since gone to the fglrx.
[21:11] <brainwash> I guess the next step should be to look at log files
[21:11] <wglb> Ok, can do that. Which one in particular?
[21:11] <brainwash> /var/log/syslog  /var/log/lightdm/*  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[21:12] <brainwash> also, stuff in ~/.cache/upstart/
[21:12] <wglb> Ok, will do. Ideas on how    to ressurect screen when in the virtual terminal?
[21:13] <brainwash> you could try and restart the display manager "sudo restart lightdm"
[21:13] <brainwash> but still will also kill your running graphical session
[21:13] <brainwash> but this
[21:22] <bennypr0fane> Hi, the screenshooter app has an otion to upload to Zimagez built in, which is super handy. However, I have to enter the password each time I want to upload something. Is there a way to make the app remember it always?
[21:23] <Unit193> Well, if it helps the next release includes an option to upload to imgur, which doesn't need a password.
[21:23] <bennypr0fane> Unit193, nah, don't wanna use imgur
[21:24] <bennypr0fane> this is perfect. Also, the next release probably won't come to 14.04's repo, will it?
[21:26] <Unit193> Not main repos, no.
[21:27] <wglb> brainwash: Thanks, will try these things.  In desparation, I have now installed xcreensaver to see if this will prevent screen from going to blank. I think underlying problem is in graphics driver. Perhaps  the fglrx will solve.
[21:29] <brainwash> bennypr0fane: https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9189
[21:31] <brainwash> wglb: hopefully you'll get it sorted :)
[21:31] <bennypr0fane> brainwash, ah, there it is. thanks! can I/should I vote for this? It definitely would make my life easier, I use it a lot
[21:32] <brainwash> bennypr0fane: sure, adding a comment or subscribing to the report (CC list) can help
[21:33] <bennypr0fane> brainwash, what's the cc list, and where can i subscribe?
[21:34] <brainwash> do you have a bugzilla account?
[21:36] <bennypr0fane> I might - not sure
[21:36] <bennypr0fane> probably created one at some point
[21:37] <bennypr0fane> I just log in to that and then I can comment? That'd be useful only if I can add new inforamtion though right? Cause I can't
[21:38] <brainwash> you could bump the bug report, maybe it'll get some attention
[21:38] <brainwash> ideally you should test the latest stable release of xfce4-screenshooter
[21:40] <bennypr0fane> I'm using the one from the main repo
[21:41] <bennypr0fane> would you mind checking if you have the same one? I have have ver 1.8.1-2ubuntu1
[21:42] <brainwash> so yeah, it's a known bug
[21:42] <brainwash> 1.8.2-0ubuntu1 in 15.04
[21:44] <bennypr0fane> I'm on 14.04
[21:44] <brainwash> I know
[21:46] <cq-aux> we have a vulnerable/outdated flashplayer guys
[21:46] <brainwash> bennypr0fane: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-screenshooter
[21:46] <bennypr0fane> brainwash, is it fixed in your version?
[21:47] <brainwash> I don't know, I don't run Xfce on this machine
[21:48] <brainwash> you could grab the package for 15.04 and install it
[21:48] <brainwash> but no guarantee that it will work properly
[21:54] <brainwash> other than that, if it's not fixed yet, you will have to wait until someone does it
[21:54] <bennypr0fane> which is the standard xfce package installer?
[21:54] <brainwash> dpkg
[21:54] <brainwash> xfce does not provide one
[21:55] <bennypr0fane> I mean GUI frontend
[21:55] <bennypr0fane> oh
[21:55] <bennypr0fane> which one comes packaged with Xubuntu
[21:55] <brainwash> the software center will take care of it I'd guess
[21:56] <brainwash> dpkg for is terminal based
[21:56] <bennypr0fane> yup, I'll just do that
[21:56] <brainwash> you can also install gdebi which provides a simple GUI
[21:57] <bennypr0fane> ...not fixed, bug's still there :-(
[21:58] <brainwash> not that surprising
[21:58] <brainwash> well, feel free to donate some $$ to help getting it fixed :)
[21:58] <brainwash> https://www.bountysource.com/issues/3225872-xfce4-screenshooter-doesn-t-remember-zimagez-password
[21:59] <bennypr0fane> thanks!