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SimplySethhow does one define a custom interface in metadata.yaml ? I see interfaces like mysql and http, but don't know where these are defined.02:48
lazyPowerSimplySeth: interfaces are kind of arbitrary - think of them as loosely coupled contracts03:03
lazyPoweri gave a talk over this, let me find the slides03:03
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lazyPowerhttps://speakerdeck.com/chuckbutler/service-orchestration-with-juju?slide=2403:04
lazyPowerSimplySeth: an important thing to remember about your interfaces as you start to design your relationship models - its a bi-directional communication cycle between the two services, you can have any number of different relations that consume the same interface but behave differently, and if you send for example - 3 data points on one of the relationship over that interface, every time the interface is used the same 3 data poitns should be03:05
lazyPowerexchanged.03:05
lazyPowerif you're changing teh data handoff, the interface should change.03:05
lazyPowerergo: you'll se interfaces like db, and db-admin03:05
SimplySeth* goes to read03:10
SimplySethmesos communicates on 5051 and 5050 and 218103:12
lazyPowerthat very well could be modeled as 3 independent relationships03:13
lazyPoweror, if all of those have the same concern, you can encapsulate that as a single relationship - i'm not really familiar with how mesos talks to its minions03:13
lazyPowerwhat i typically do when i'm speccing out a charm - is i break down the concerns, get a mental data model on paper and start to sketch how that looks between services - pencil and paper are good tools for this - or a whiteboard if you ahve one03:14
lazyPoweronce you've got a decomposed service diagram, you then name them, and define your data exchange between the services, and have a good representation to stuff in your metadata.yaml03:14
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marcoceppibodie_: re: iptables, you could probably achieve a similar affect with an iptables subordinate08:08
Muntanergood morning to everyone!08:45
Muntanerhaving problems with bootstrap... can anyone help me?08:48
MuntanerI'm trying to use juju with an openstack in a private cloud08:49
Muntanerwhen I try to bootstrap08:49
MuntanerJuju successfully creates the VM on the openstack08:49
Muntanerseems to be able to communicate with this instance08:50
Muntanerbut... at a certain point, bootstrap fails08:50
Muntanerwith this log:08:50
Muntanerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/10139228/08:52
Muntanerhi dimitern08:57
dimiternhi Muntaner08:57
MuntanerI'm having some bootstrap problems... may you help me?08:58
dimiternMuntaner, can you remind me - were you having issues behind a proxy?08:58
Muntanerno dimitern no proxies issues :)08:59
Muntanerwell, simply I can't bootstrap juju over a private OpenStack cloud08:59
Muntanerlogs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10139228/08:59
dimiternah ok09:02
dimiternMuntaner, it seems you can't fetch the tools09:04
Muntanerdimitern: need environments.yawl?09:05
dimiternMuntaner, nope, let me check something first09:05
dimiternMuntaner, have you tried running juju sync-tools before bootstrap?09:05
MuntanerI'll try now09:06
dimiternMuntaner, wait a sec09:06
Muntanerok dimitern, tell me what to do :)09:07
jamhey dimitern, aren't you off today?09:07
dimiternMuntaner, try following this guide https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/howto-privatecloud.html09:07
dimiternjam, hey, yes - officially, just checking how things are going09:08
Muntanerdimitern: maybe I need to create this metadata on the server?09:09
Muntaner'cos actually, I'm trying to use juju with my laptop on the openstack server via LAN (10.0.0.0/24)09:09
dimiternMuntaner, yes, it seems bootstrapping finds the correct image to start, but the juju tools metadata is missing09:09
Muntaneraw ok dimitern, I can't get the workaround btw :(09:10
dimiternMuntaner, so try juju metadata generate-tools -d $HOME/juju-tools (create that dir as well beforehand); then juju bootstrap --metadata-source $HOME/juju-tools09:10
Muntanerdimitern: all of this in my laptop, right?09:11
Muntanerdimitern: having some strange debug messages in this command, want to check this?09:12
Muntanermike@mike-PC:~$ juju metadata generate-tools -d /home/mike/juju-tools --debug09:13
Muntaner-> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10139486/09:13
Muntanerbut, in the folder, it created some jsons09:13
Muntanercom.ubuntu.juju:released:tools.json, index.json, index2.json09:14
dimiternMuntaner, that's fine, try bootstrapping now with --metadata-source09:15
Muntanerdimitern: I get an earlier error :(09:15
Muntanerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/10139519/09:16
Muntanermaybe... I need to upload tools?09:17
dimiternMuntaner, no, just --metadata-source09:18
dimiternMuntaner, ha!, ok09:19
Muntanerdimitern: what should I try now?09:20
dimiternMuntaner, you'll need juju metadata generate-image -d <same dir> -i <image id from your openstack glance image list>09:20
Muntanerok, gonna do that and give feedback09:21
dimiternMuntaner, you can run this multiple times - one per image (e.g. trusty amd64, i386, etc.); then run juju metadata validate-images (check that page I sent and the commands --help)09:21
dimiternMuntaner, the idea is to have a bunch of images and tools metadata in that metadata dir so that at bootstrap juju can find you images and tools09:22
Muntanerdimitern: all of this should happen on my laptop, right?09:23
Muntanerdimitern: got a new error :)09:28
Muntanerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/10139639/09:29
dimiternMuntaner, did you try validate-images and validate-tools successfully before trying to bootstrap? please do that09:30
Muntanerdimitern: I did validate images - not validate tools, will try it now09:31
dimiternMuntaner, yeah, if both are successful you've a better chance of bootstrapping ok09:32
Muntanerdimitern: same errors09:35
dimiternMuntaner, with validate-tools?09:35
Muntanerseems like juju can't find /home/mike/juju-tools/tools/releases/juju-1.21.1-trusty-amd64.tgz09:35
Muntanerin fact, I don't have that file09:36
dimiternMuntaner, hmm ok, then let me ask someone what we're missing here09:36
Muntaneryep - with both validate-tools and validate-image09:36
Muntanerok dimitern, thanks09:38
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MmikeHi, guys and gals.11:59
MmikeHow do I check which charm version has deployed my services/units? Is that info displayed in 'juju status' ?11:59
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jamespageMmike, it should be yes12:10
Mmikejamespage: found this: http://juju-docs.readthedocs.org/en/latest/internals/charm-store.html#charm-revisions12:11
Mmikebut not sure how to link charm revisions with bzr revisions12:12
jamespageMmike, you can't12:12
jamespageMmike, charmstore revisions are created when the bzr source branch is automatically imported12:13
jamespagecs:trusty/swift-storage-92 for example12:13
jamespagebut there is not direct correlation with bzr versions12:13
jamespageits an intentional decoupling to avoid tying charm authors to a single vcs12:14
hazmatthose docs should get taken down, they are the ancient pyjuju impl docs12:16
Mmikehazmat: heh... but they reveal some of the internals12:16
Mmikewhich is a good thing12:16
hazmatMmike: we have internal docs for the current version in the source tree as well12:17
hazmatcovering different topics.. but also useful for lighting up internals.. https://github.com/juju/juju/tree/master/doc12:17
hazmatthe old docs are are hit or miss, especially the internals which may no longer apply12:18
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hazmatactually almost none of those docs on internal apply anymore12:20
hazmatfrom juju-docs.readthedocs.org site12:20
Mmikehazmat: how can I get the internal docs, are they on launchpad somewhere?12:39
Mmikeactually what I need is to test upgrade path for some charm - so I see the bzr commit that was merged into 'trunk' (main?) and I'd like to deply that particular 'commit' - how do I figure out what charm revision that was?12:40
marcoceppiMmike: there's no correlation to bzr commit and charm revision. You could probably figure that out with some API queries but it's not apparent12:49
marcoceppihazmat: I agree, any idea on who setup that site?12:49
Mmikemarcoceppi: ack, thnx. I'll try to figure it out manually.12:53
hazmatmarcoceppi: not sure, maybe brendan?12:54
hazmater.. i mean brandon12:54
hazmatMmike: that github link above has the current internal docs12:55
Mmikehazmat: missed that one, thnx! :D12:56
hazmatMmike: nutshell you can use query the bzr version of a particular charm store revision, but there's no mapping from bzr rev to charm store rev. effectively the charm store rev, is a monotonically increase integer managed by the store, in response to pushes/puts of a charm.12:56
hazmatie. something like https://api.jujucharms.com/v4/mongodb/meta/extra-info12:58
Mmikei see12:58
Mmikethnx, lads12:59
hazmatMmike: actually this is a bit better https://api.jujucharms.com/v4/mongodb/meta/revision-info12:59
hazmatrick_h_: are there public docs on the store api?13:00
hazmatMmike: fwiw, docs on the store api https://github.com/juju/charmstore/blob/v4/docs/API.md13:01
urulamahazmat: rick_h_ is out today, swap days. But yes, that are the store API.13:04
hazmaturulama: danke13:04
urulamaMmike: there is a /meta/extra-info endpoint in CS that holds BZR digest information for a given revision. You can always check the correlation between charm revision and BZR revision.13:05
urulamaMmike: if you need a hand, let me know which charm you're interested in13:05
Mmikeurulama: it's percona-cluster... current revision is -15, and I'd like to know what charm revision was at branch revno 4013:32
urulamaMmike: ok, revision 15 has bzr revision 44, looks like percona-cluster-12 had bzr revision 40, but there is no such revision in the system.13:36
urulamaMmike: have to check a bit what happened to all revisions < 1313:37
marcoceppiMmike: you can just cook up a new revision if you want to deploy rev 12 (bzr 40) of the charm13:37
marcoceppibranch it, reset to revision 40, deploy charm13:37
Mmikeurulama: that's fine, thnx, don't bother. I'll try both 12 and 13 (that is, upgrade 12->15 and 13->15)13:37
Mmikemarcoceppi: or that, indeed! thnx!13:37
MmikeI did all those tests before 15 got public, I just want to double-check now that its merged.13:38
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ayr-tonhatch: hatched, is you?14:22
hatchayr-ton: it is14:29
hatchassuming you're talking about github :)14:29
ayr-tonhatch: Ahahaha. So sorry about forget your issue. Working on this right now /o\14:30
hatchayr-ton: haha no problem at all :) I was just going through the issues and adding some features the other day and I thought I'd add a note to that bug14:33
hatchs/bug/enhancement14:33
ayr-tonhatch: Do you want me to use in the charm the JUJU_DEV_FEATURE_FLAG=actions for early adoption?14:33
hatchayr-ton: yeah I'd be ok with using new features for this functionality - using a config option feels pretty hacky to do this14:34
ayr-tonhatch: Okay. Just a sec.14:37
Muntanerhi :)14:41
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ayr-tonmarcoceppi: https://github.com/ayr-ton/zabbix-charm | https://code.launchpad.net/~ayrton/charms/trusty/zabbix/trunk15:09
ayr-tonit is working15:09
ayr-tonjust some bugs when depart a db relation, but I'm already working in fix this.15:10
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gadagocould anyone help me with the ubuntu openstack installer?16:24
gadagono matter what install type i choose (Autopilot, Multi, Single) I can't get passed "Bootstrapping Juju"16:24
gadagoMAAS start the installer, etc, etc, seems to create network bridge for Juju, all seems to okay, but then just sits there at the login prompt16:25
gadagothe openstack installer just continues to say "Bootstrapping Juju"16:25
gadagono idea what I'm doing wrong16:25
gadagoI've been following this guide here http://www.ubuntu.com/download/cloud/install-ubuntu-openstack16:27
marcoceppigadago: what architecture/hardware specs are the machines in maas, and how many machines do you hvae? do any machines ever appear allocated in the maas UI?16:39
lazyPowermbruzek: you can file bugs against jujucharms.com here => https://github.com/CanonicalLtd/jujucharms.com16:40
gadagomarcoceppi, I have two virtual machines (As nodes in maas), plus a third physical node16:41
gadagothe virtual machines currently only have one NIC each (I can add more of course), the physical node has six16:41
marcoceppiCPU/memory?16:42
gadagovirtual have 2 cpus, 4gb ram16:42
gadagophysical is 24 cpus 48gb ram16:42
marcoceppithat should be enough, are they x86 arch?16:43
marcoceppiI know at one point the minimum server requirement was like 8 machines, but that was a while ago. I'm not versed in all the new offerings16:44
gadagox86 (amd64)16:44
marcoceppiyou're unable to bootstrap a machine this means there is a juju -> maas issue16:44
marcoceppiSo, this typically boils down to one of two things16:44
marcoceppi1) credentials issue16:45
marcoceppiEither you hvae the wrong credentials, or the wrong server hostname for maas (or you can't actually talk to maas from where you're running the installers)16:45
marcoceppithat last part is technically not a credentials issue, but we're just going to lump it in there16:46
gadagomarcoceppi, could be the second I feel16:46
gadagoby mass server is on 192.168.255.10 with my deployment network being 10.0.14.0/2416:46
gadagodefault gateway is 10.0.14.10 (other IP on maas server)16:47
marcoceppi2) You don't have a machine that juju expects to find. By default juju uses a set of constraints to request a machine: 1 CPU, 700MB RAM, x86_64. Juju asks MAAS for a machine that meets this minimum requirement and MAAS says "OKIE DAY! here you go" or 409 CONFLICT16:47
marcoceppigadago: so, from where you're running these isntaller commands, can you ping the MAAS server?16:47
gadagoI'm running the openstack-install command on the maas serer16:48
gadagoI'm using this guide http://www.ubuntu.com/download/cloud/install-ubuntu-openstack16:48
marcoceppigadago: well, that's not going to be much of an issue then16:48
marcoceppigadago: in the maas web ui, can you see a machine allocated after running the insaller?16:48
gadagomarcoceppi, under nodes, it shows as "Allocated to root"16:49
marcoceppigadago: do all of them say that?16:49
gadagono just the one at the moment16:50
marcoceppigadago: interesting16:51
marcoceppigadago: that machine that's allocated to root16:51
marcoceppican you ping it? does it have an address?16:51
gadagothat one has PXE booted, rebooted then ran the cloud-init script and setup a juju-br0 device on the 10.0.14.0/23 network16:51
gadagoI can ssh to it16:51
gadagobut that's as far as it goes16:52
marcoceppiyeah, so it bootstrapped16:52
marcoceppigadago: do you have a jujud process running?16:52
gadagono jujud, but there is a curl process of curl -sSfw tools from %{url_effective} downloaded: HTTP %{http_code}; time %{time_total}s; size %{size_download} bytes; speed %{speed_download} bytes/s  --retry 10 -o /var/lib/juju/tools/1.21.1-trusty-amd64/tools.tar.gz https://streams.canonical.com/juju/tools/releases/juju-1.21.1-trusty-amd64.tgz16:53
marcoceppigadago: ah, does this maas install have outside access?16:54
marcoceppiI wonder if the http proxy isn't setup correctly16:54
marcoceppiwhich would cause it to fail to download the juju binary, which would result in aa hung bootstrap16:54
gadagomarcoceppi, the one odd thing I have had with this test maas setup is that I have to set the gateway on the network for the maas config to the maas server itself, if I actually set the gateway to the network gateway, dns fails and the server wont pxe properly16:55
gadagoso in, short if I try to ping google.com, no reply16:55
marcoceppigadago: yeah, maas wnats to run both DNS and networking16:55
marcoceppiwell DNS and DHCP/Networking16:55
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marcoceppiso what you could/should do. Create an internal netowrk (sounds like you did 10.0.14.0/23) then setup iptables to forward that br device to the main eth device on maas server16:57
gadagomy maas server is of of course not a gateway16:57
marcoceppithen setup dns forwarding from the maas server to an external dns server16:57
marcoceppithat's the only way I've run MAAS, I'm not sure how to do it so it just runs DNS16:57
gadagoI already have dns forwarding sorted (google.com resolves on the node)16:57
marcoceppithere's a drop down in the maas admin panel to switch it to DNS only16:57
marcoceppibut you'd want to ask in #maas about dns only (non dhcp) maas setups16:58
marcoceppionce that's all sorted, and you can wget/curl from within a node, bootstrap should work16:58
gadagothanks marcoceppi, at least that's a bit of progress :)16:59
gadago#maas has for some reason become an invite only channel16:59
gadagoso no help there17:00
marcoceppigadago: yeah, MAAS is pure awesome, but setting it up on less than 5 nodes in a network it doesn't own can take a bit of jumping since it's designed to manage multiple datacenters and racks of servers :)17:00
marcoceppigadago: that's, what, let me find someone to fix that17:00
gadagomarcoceppi, any ideas why maas does not work when not using it as the gateway? I know it's a dns issue, but I find that quite bizzare17:03
marcoceppigadago: I don't have enough experience. When I do MAAS testings my setup has an Intel NUC on it's own gigabit switch and the maas master works as the gateway17:04
marcoceppiI'm not home at the moment so I can't try it out with DNS only setup17:04
gadagomarcoceppi, np17:05
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gadagomarcoceppi, finally got the nodes routing through the maas server (with iptables forwarding), but still not luck :(18:17
marcoceppigadago: can you curl a payload when ssh'd on the node?18:18
gadagonot tried curl, but internet access on the node is now fine, adn can ping the maas controller on the other subnet just fine18:19
gadagoeven getting a /var/lib/juju/tools/1.21.1-trusty-amd64/jujud process now18:20
gadagomongod seems to be doing something to18:20
gadagoshould this be a long process?18:20
gadago"Install OpneStack in minutes" lol18:23
gadagothe openstack installer on the maas server has hung as well18:24
gadagomaybe not enough grunt?18:25
marcoceppigadago: well, is maas set to use the fast installer?18:27
marcoceppiif not, it's going to take like 10 mins to get the node up alone18:27
marcoceppithen about 2-3 mins for juju to bootstrap itself18:27
marcoceppibut if you've got jujud you're on your way18:27
marcoceppido you have anything in /var/log/juju ?18:27
gadagousing the fast installer18:27
gadagomaybe I'm just being impatient then18:27
gadagothe elapsed time on the openstack installer stop counting up that's all, and the little blue/purple graph stops moving18:28
gadagoI'll check the log in a moment18:31
marcoceppigadago: well clock stopping is never a good sign18:35
gadago:)18:36
gadagoWARNING juju.cmd.jujud machine.go:602 determining kvm support: INFO: Your CPU does not support KVM extensions18:36
gadagothis one is a VM18:36
gadagomaybe I should try the Multi option for the installer18:38
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bdxI've a concern reguarding the ceph charm. It seems when the config ceph-cluster-network is specified in the ceph charms config, and is different from the specified ceph-public-network, the charm will fail deployment because a second network interface is not brought up on the ceph-cluster-network.20:49
nicopacehi guys... one question... how can i destroy my local lxc environment, without using 'juju destroy-environment local' (it is not responding, as i got out of disk space :S)20:50
bdxDoes anyone know a way around this?20:50
travis_hi all20:51
travis_i am suffering here with a maas environment, trying to get juju to bootstrap20:51
travis_i keep getting this curl failed20:52
travis_Attempt 1 to download tools from https://streams.canonical.com/juju/tools/releases/juju-1.21.1-precise-amd64.tgz...20:52
travis_curl: (7) Failed to connect to streams.canonical.com port 443: No route to host20:52
travis_tools from https://streams.canonical.com/juju/tools/releases/juju-1.21.1-precise-amd64.tgz downloaded: HTTP 000; time 2.711s; size 0 bytes; speed 0.000 bytes/s Download failed..... wait 15s20:52
travis_though i can ping streams.canonical.com from the maas box20:52
travis_any thoughts20:53
travis_hi all i am suffering here with a maas environment, trying to get juju to bootstrap i keep getting this curl failed Attempt 1 to download tools from https://streams.canonical.com/juju/tools/releases/juju-1.21.1-precise-amd64.tgz... curl: (7) Failed to connect to streams.canonical.com port 443: No route to host tools from https://streams.canonical.com/juju/tools/releases/juju-1.21.1-precise-amd64.tgz downloaded: HTTP 000; time 220:54
travis_.711s; size 0 bytes; speed 0.000 bytes/s Download failed..... wait 15s though i can ping streams.canonical.com from the maas box any thoughts20:54
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lazyPowernicopace: have you tried juju destroy-environment local -y --force ?21:03
nicopacelazyPower: let's see what happens with that command...21:04
lazyPowernicopace: if that doesn't work, the next step woudl be to lxc-destroy a container or two - and then triage the environment accordingly (juju wont be aware that you've puled the rug out o n those containers)21:04
nicopacelazyPower: nothing happens21:05
lazyPowernicopace: sudo lxc-ls --fancy, find a running machine or two that you can destroy21:06
nicopaceso... you say i have to destroy some of the lxc containers by hand?21:06
lazyPowerthe destroy-environment --force should have nuked it from orbit21:06
lazyPowerbut if the containers are still running and you have no disk space left - lets try removing one and seeing if we can get the env to respond21:06
nicopacethere is no output21:06
lazyPowerthere wont be21:06
nicopacethey are all stopped21:06
lazyPowerand juju status should say teh environment is no longer bootstrapped21:06
nicopacesudo lxc-ls --fancy21:06
nicopaceNAME                       STATE    IPV4  IPV6  AUTOSTART21:06
nicopace---------------------------------------------------------21:06
nicopacejuju-precise-lxc-template  STOPPED  -     -     NO21:06
nicopacejuju-trusty-lxc-template   STOPPED  -     -     NO21:06
nicopaceubuntu-local-machine-48    STOPPED  -     -     YES21:06
lazyPowerinteresting... you have a local machine of id 48, that is hanging around.21:07
nicopacejuju status21:07
nicopaceERROR Unable to connect to environment "local".21:07
nicopacePlease check your credentials or use 'juju bootstrap' to create a new environment.21:07
nicopaceError details:21:07
nicopacecannot connect to API servers without admin-secret21:07
* lazyPower blinks21:07
lazyPowerwell thats a new error message on me re: admin-secret21:07
lazyPowerdo you have a local.jenv file in ~/.juju/environments/ ?21:07
nicopacei just want to nuke everything up21:08
nicopaceno21:08
nicopacebut i had some minutes ago21:08
nicopace!21:08
lazyPowerok, so its supposedly gone then, without a jenv, there is no environment as far as juju is concerned21:08
nicopacebut juju doesn't respond21:08
nicopaceok... i can bootstrap a new env21:09
lazyPowersudo initctl list | grep juju21:09
lazyPowerdo you see any juju services running?21:09
nicopacenothing21:09
nicopaceno21:09
lazyPowerok, good - your state server and api are gone21:09
nicopace(i've destroyed the recently created env first)21:09
lazyPoweryou have one hanging machine that i suggest you remove unles that machine is important to you21:09
nicopaceno21:10
lazyPowersudo lxc-destroy -n ubuntu-local-machine-4821:10
nicopaceso how i destroy it?21:10
lazyPowerafter that you should be g2g to run `juju bootstrap`21:10
nicopaceok21:10
nicopaceand what about the other two?21:10
nicopacethose are just templateces lazyPower21:11
nicopace?21:11
lazyPowernicopace: you can leave the templates around, unless you want to fetch the 200mb cloud image and wait for them to be recreated again21:11
nicopaceno21:11
nicopaceok21:11
lazyPowerthose are created when you request a deployment for the series on the local provider.21:11
nicopaceso... now i should be ok to start again21:11
nicopacethanks lazyPower21:11
nicopace!21:11
lazyPowercorrect21:11
lazyPowernp nicopace, lmk if you have any further issues21:12
nicopace(y)21:12
lazyPowerkeep up the good work and reports on teh list :)21:12
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sinzuiwwitzel3, how goes bug 1417875? I think I will postpone it to 1.21.3 as I don't think a fix will be available in a few hours22:05
mupBug #1417875: ERROR juju.worker runner.go:219 exited "rsyslog": x509: certificate signed by unknown authority <canonical-bootstack> <logging> <regression> <juju-core:Triaged by wwitzel3> <juju-core 1.21:Triaged by wwitzel3> <juju-core 1.22:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1417875>22:05
wwitzel3sinzui: sadly I don't think I'll have a fix in the next few hours no22:12
sinzuiokay, thank you wwitzel322:12
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