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| lordievader | Good morning. | 08:41 |
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| === sitter changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - now even more Friendly Computing | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | Applications 14.12.2 Status http://goo.gl/Gy6Dya | ||
| sitter | the initial upload script is somewhat agrevating | 08:59 |
| === yofel changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | Applications 14.12.2 Status http://goo.gl/Gy6Dya | ||
| Riddell | Quintasan: then go with the patch I did and maybe work out if it really needs two binaries, my feeling is that's just weirdly complex to the user | 09:10 |
| yofel | why would the user care about the binary? I'm pretty sure that most just use the desktop file and whoever doesn't will figure out that ktron is now ksnakeduel... | 09:11 |
| Riddell | yofel: right but it's making both ksnakeduel and kdesnake binaries | 09:12 |
| Riddell | dunno if it has two .desktop files | 09:12 |
| Riddell | and hopefully Quintasan will take care of it so I don't have to :) | 09:12 |
| yofel | ah, yeah, that's weird... | 09:13 |
| soee_ | good morning | 09:15 |
| yofel | moin soee_ | 09:16 |
| sitter | :@ | 09:19 |
| sitter | Riddell: where does kf57 go for staging? | 09:29 |
| Riddell | sitter: kubuntu-ppa/staging? | 09:32 |
| sitter | when do we put things in ninjas? | 09:33 |
| Riddell | sitter: or you can use ninjas if you like, it's just another staging ppa which is able to support tars that are ment to be hidden | 09:34 |
| sitter | is it meant to be hiddne? | 09:34 |
| sitter | *hidden | 09:34 |
| sitter | frameworks that is | 09:35 |
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| Riddell | sitter: doesn't matter | 09:36 |
| sitter | fair enough | 09:40 |
| sitter | > $ ruby ppa-wipe.rb | 09:40 |
| sitter | too late to call backsies now | 09:40 |
| soee | https://plus.google.com/+RobvandenBerg290569/posts/Ep7NxPhqGFM :) | 09:45 |
| sitter | uploading kf57 to staging | 09:46 |
| sitter | Riddell: that upload script is an unreliable gunk. I have now written my own proto tooling to do it right >.< | 09:47 |
| Riddell | lovely | 09:55 |
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| === sitter changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - now even more Friendly Computing | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | Applications 14.12.2 Status http://goo.gl/Gy6Dya | kf57 http://goo.gl/t99kOF | ||
| * sitter wonders why the ecm version wasn't bumped | 10:32 | |
| sitter | ScottK: are you coming to akademy? | 10:47 |
| Riddell | he totally should | 10:48 |
| BluesKaj | 'Morning folks | 11:42 |
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| soee | someone can test one thing in amarok ? | 11:53 |
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| ScottK | sitter: I hadn't planned on it. | 12:29 |
| ScottK | $work is very busy, so not sure I can afford the week away. | 12:29 |
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| ScottK | FYI, after all the who ha about how critical it was to change the scheduler to CFQ in trusty, the relevant bug (1378789) is still unverified 2 and a half months later. | 13:34 |
| ScottK | Does anyone care? | 13:34 |
| sitter | the day anyone starts carying about bug reports... | 13:44 |
| ScottK | Considering someone thought it was worth going to the tech board to fix, seems at silly not to go to the trouble of verifying the SRU. | 13:50 |
| sitter | yes | 13:51 |
| sebas | if it's the same techboard which thought changing the scheduler is a good solution in the first place, I don't have much hope... | 13:57 |
| ScottK | sebas: The tech board agreed to it. | 14:00 |
| sebas | Yes, my point. | 14:00 |
| ScottK | No, I mean they agreed to change it back. | 14:01 |
| ScottK | The only thing that stands in the way of the change being deployed is someone testing the fix works. | 14:01 |
| sebas | They should have not agreed, in fact, they should have checked for crack abuse or mental illnesses. ;) | 14:01 |
| sebas | ow, they agreed ... that's good (esp. given that nobody seemed to know if that hack was even necessary anymore) | 14:03 |
| sgclark | morning | 14:23 |
| sebas | moin sgclark | 14:38 |
| BluesKaj | 'Morning sgclark | 14:38 |
| BluesKaj | sebas, we use real english in here | 14:38 |
| sebas | BluesKaj: so I conclude that "we" does not include me, in which case you may or may not be right ;) | 14:39 |
| sebas | Your nickname doesn't add any credibility to that, btw. | 14:40 |
| BluesKaj | sebas, troll if you wish , see where it gets you | 14:40 |
| sebas | BluesKaj: likewise, and nice to meet you :) | 14:42 |
| sgclark | lol oh my | 14:42 |
| sgclark | going to be at akademy sebas? | 14:42 |
| BluesKaj | heh yeah ...a little attiude goes a long way | 14:42 |
| sebas | sgclark: surely, in fact I started looking for diving buddies, considering going a few days early | 14:43 |
| sebas | you? | 14:43 |
| sgclark | of course! look forward to seeing you there! | 14:43 |
| sebas | BluesKaj: if that's some sort of welcoming procedure you're trying to follow, please just skip me and ignore my presence | 14:43 |
| sebas | sgclark: awesome! | 14:43 |
| sgclark | BluesKaj: sebas is cool :) all is well | 14:44 |
| * sgclark goes for more coffee | 14:44 | |
| * sebas goes for lunch | 14:44 | |
| sebas | BluesKaj: see, we can be friends! | 14:44 |
| sebas | I'm a nice guy and all that, none to be afraid of | 14:45 |
| Riddell | ScottK: I wasn't able to verify the cfq baloo issue because I couldn't recreate the initial problem when I tried | 14:47 |
| Riddell | and I got a nice volunteer in the office to spend a whole day trying | 14:47 |
| ScottK | I think if you verify the scheduler is changed, that's sufficient. | 14:47 |
| BluesKaj | sgclark, improper wording is a annoyance to me ...I may be old and grumpy but this text style wording bugs me ...why not use proper english, is that too much to ask? | 14:47 |
| sgclark | BluesKaj: well then you need to start with Riddell as his greeting vary everyday lol. really it does not bother me so it should not bother you how someone greets me. :) | 14:48 |
| Riddell | ScottK: oh that seems easier | 14:49 |
| BluesKaj | well ok , guess I'm outnumbered :) | 14:49 |
| sgclark | anyway, Riddell I am afraid the new kdepim has symbols missing... that look to be public methods, I may need your assistance | 14:50 |
| Riddell | sgclark: ooh fooey | 14:51 |
| sgclark | otherwise applications done. not sure how testing went | 14:52 |
| sgclark | I also got am email asking for 4.14.3 backports? | 14:52 |
| Riddell | I was just going to ignore 4.14.3, there's only so much we can do | 14:53 |
| sgclark | ok | 14:53 |
| soee | sgclark: i did not test them, i see 2 reds and one dep waiting, so i decided to wait | 14:54 |
| sgclark | is applications also in utopic? | 14:54 |
| sgclark | soee: that dep will never resolve so ignore ktux | 14:54 |
| soee | :D | 14:54 |
| sgclark | soee: those two reds are for optional that will also never resolve | 14:54 |
| soee | sgclark: the packages are in ninjas ? | 14:55 |
| sgclark | should still function tho | 14:55 |
| sgclark | soee: yep | 14:55 |
| sebas | it should be "an annoyance", in proper English, btw | 14:55 |
| soee | sgclark: let me check if i have it in my source list | 14:55 |
| sebas | there's really no use in being overly spelling / grammar nazi, I'd think | 14:55 |
| sgclark | sebas: he left I think | 14:55 |
| soee | um not, after fresh install some time ago, Riddell can you send me ninjas ppa details ? | 14:55 |
| sebas | he returned, my client tells me | 14:55 |
| sgclark | ahh ok | 14:56 |
| sebas | not to worry, I'm not planning on letting the language deteriorate any further, in fact I quite enjoy proper use of language | 14:56 |
| soee | sgclark: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10143430/ right ? | 14:59 |
| sgclark | soee: mmm sure? not sure what you are asking. | 15:01 |
| soee | sgclark: those packages i have listed to be upgraded | 15:01 |
| sgclark | Riddell: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343892 he is asking qt4 or qt5, was I suppose to do something special make it compile qt5? assuming we want qt5 | 15:03 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 343892 in kalgebra-backend "Could not find a package configuration file provided by "Analitza"" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 15:03 |
| sitter | sgclark: where is that kalgebra from? | 15:06 |
| soee | there is a lot of packages marked as 4.14.5 - this is fine ? | 15:06 |
| soee | Unpacking kdelibs5-data (4:4.14.5-4~ubuntu1~ubuntu15.04~ppa1) over (4:4.14.2-4~ubuntu3) ... | 15:06 |
| sgclark | soee: yep | 15:07 |
| soee | brb, reboot | 15:08 |
| sgclark | sitter: this is cantor kde-applcations 14.12.2 | 15:09 |
| sgclark | s/applcations/applications/ | 15:09 |
| kubotu | sgclark meant: "sitter: this is cantor kde-applications 14.12.2" | 15:09 |
| sitter | that seems veeeeeeeery odd | 15:10 |
| sgclark | kalgebra is also | 15:10 |
| sgclark | indeed | 15:10 |
| sitter | according to your output it is looking for qt4 stuff | 15:10 |
| Riddell | sgclark: looking at 14.12.0 tars analitza is kf5 and cantor is kdelibs4 | 15:11 |
| soee | sgclark: smooth upgrade on vivid | 15:11 |
| sitter | ah ah | 15:11 |
| sitter | in the backend | 15:11 |
| sgclark | I think they did a qt5 port as he is asking me if it is qt4 or qt5 | 15:11 |
| * sitter still confused xD | 15:12 | |
| sitter | sgclark: do you have a complete build log? | 15:12 |
| sgclark | sitter: should be in status link | 15:12 |
| sitter | ah, cantor is failing fair enough | 15:14 |
| sitter | so the problem is cantor is qt4, analitza is already qt5, cantor wants qt4 analitza, can't find it, starts whining | 15:14 |
| sgclark | I think they ddid a cantor kf5 port, I will package by hand with qf5 and see if that fixes it. | 15:15 |
| sitter | two options: a) ignore it b) fix the analitza packaging to have a versioned -dev package i.e. libanalitza0-dev or something, that way you can still pull in the qt4 analitza when needed | 15:15 |
| sitter | sgclark: well they didn't release it so the existance of a port doesn't help us much | 15:16 |
| soee | can someone emind me where default .bashrc content is stored ? | 15:16 |
| soee | *remind | 15:16 |
| sgclark | sitter: ahh ok. | 15:16 |
| Riddell | sgclark: I think best thing is just to not ship cantor for now | 15:17 |
| sgclark | Riddell: ok | 15:18 |
| Riddell | sgclark: I looked through kdepimlibs sources and compared them, it looks like they changed some private functions in libkabc4 but that should be fine to do and there's no change in libakonadi-contact4 sources so I guess that's just gcc doing something more clever than I can understand | 15:30 |
| Riddell | sgclark: so find to update the symbols file and remove the MISSING lines | 15:30 |
| sgclark | Riddell: great thanks | 15:31 |
| Riddell | s/find/fine/ | 15:31 |
| kubotu | Riddell meant: "sgclark: so fine to update the symbols file and remove the MISSING lines" | 15:31 |
| sitter | Riddell: how long are you here today? | 15:59 |
| Riddell | sitter: um, another hour, maybe two | 16:00 |
| Riddell | ¿porque? | 16:00 |
| sitter | sending mail | 16:01 |
| sitter | Riddell: kf57 needs poking | 16:01 |
| sitter | I really don't get why no one has written a script for that | 16:01 |
| Riddell | we have a retry script no? | 16:02 |
| Riddell | kubuntu-retry-builds | 16:02 |
| Riddell | I usually just put that on cron | 16:02 |
| sitter | that's silly | 16:02 |
| * BluesKaj is wondering why VDs with separate backgrounds is dropped on plasma 5 | 16:02 | |
| sebas | it was dropped in Plasma 4 already | 16:03 |
| sebas | it just wasn't reimplemented in Plasma 5 | 16:03 |
| sitter | Riddell: also kservice is bogus red | 16:03 |
| * sitter out | 16:05 | |
| BluesKaj | I'm currently running 14.10 with plasma 4 and have 6 different backagrounds for my 6 VDs | 16:17 |
| sebas | that's not something supported upstream, though | 16:25 |
| sebas | there may be hacks around for it, I don't care much | 16:25 |
| BluesKaj | i think different backgrounds are supported for acivities on separate VDs | 16:29 |
| sgclark | Riddell: I can poke builds, I am still here for several more hours | 16:29 |
| BluesKaj | but no activities are really needed here...my needs are pretty ordinary | 16:30 |
| sebas | they're supported for activities, but entirely orthogonal from VDs | 16:32 |
| sebas | orthogonal to? | 16:32 |
| * sebas would guess "to" | 16:32 | |
| soee | BluesKaj: think of activities like VD on steroids :) | 16:34 |
| BluesKaj | soee, well i don't need steroids atm, maybe later some cortisone for my knees :) | 16:35 |
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| soee | hihi :D | 16:36 |
| Riddell | sgclark: yeah that would be muchos lovely, it should just be a case of running kubuntu-retry | 16:36 |
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| sgclark | ok | 16:36 |
| BluesKaj | ok, back to plasma 5 for a while | 16:47 |
| soee | :] | 16:54 |
| santa_ | shadeslayer: ping? | 17:01 |
| shadeslayer | santa_: pong | 17:05 |
| santa_ | shadeslayer: some time ago you made some things in phonon, would you have time this week to include some extra changes and/or discuss issues via irc? | 17:06 |
| shadeslayer | uh, what things? | 17:06 |
| shadeslayer | and if it's a patch, you can just post to Review Board? | 17:07 |
| santa_ | shadeslayer: it's about merging things into git's master, and then re-work a patch for 4.8.3 and solve a packaging issue | 17:08 |
| santa_ | shadeslayer: if you mean kde's reviewboard it's out of scope | 17:08 |
| santa_ | (they are packaging things) | 17:09 |
| shadeslayer | ah ok | 17:09 |
| shadeslayer | santa_: if you could just put a git repo up somewhere and point me to it | 17:09 |
| shadeslayer | I can have a look at the diff between the debian packaging and yours | 17:09 |
| santa_ | yeah, I have some partial work | 17:09 |
| shadeslayer | cool, just ping me with a link here | 17:09 |
| santa_ | the rest would need a bit of discussion | 17:09 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 17:13 |
| santa_ | shadeslayer: https://gitorious.org/siduction-kde-kf5-dependencies/phonon | 17:16 |
| santa_ | master branch is a copy of what you have in alioth | 17:16 |
| santa_ | master_tmp are some of my changes | 17:17 |
| shadeslayer | cheers | 17:17 |
| santa_ | warning it doesn't build yet | 17:18 |
| santa_ | because phonon_is_not_forced_in_KDE.diff needs to be updated or removed | 17:19 |
| santa_ | I have removed it for siduction (see branch sdn-4.8.3) but I'm not completely sure it's the right solution | 17:20 |
| santa_ | also there's an extra issue, but let's get our packaging a bit more sync'ed first. I think it would be nice to have something similar in debian, kubuntu and siduction rather than doing each one its own packaging | 17:23 |
| shadeslayer | its not | 17:24 |
| shadeslayer | debian forces funky paths | 17:25 |
| shadeslayer | and installs to old locations | 17:25 |
| santa_ | so it would need to be refreshed | 17:26 |
| santa_ | shadeslayer: ok, so if I get some free time I will try to refresh that patch, in the meantime I may offer other more simple changes to sgclark for applications 14.12.2 | 18:00 |
| shadeslayer | sure | 18:00 |
| soee | in Kubuntu kwrited is compiled into kded ? | 18:08 |
| shadeslayer | well, probably not a kubuntu specific thing tbh | 18:19 |
| soee | hmm | 18:20 |
| santa_ | sgclark: ping? | 18:20 |
| soee | shadeslayer: do you mind take a look at my conversation @ #plasma ? | 18:21 |
| soee | so i wonder if we should have kwrited in kubuntu or not :) | 18:21 |
| shadeslayer | I have 6 of them | 18:22 |
| shadeslayer | seems to have been started from kwrited | 18:23 |
| shadeslayer | erm | 18:23 |
| shadeslayer | kdeinit5 | 18:23 |
| soee | i killed them all, ~20 was to much :) | 18:23 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 18:23 |
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| _Groo_ | could any kind soul fix the kio-mtp package in ci? still wants to remove plasma-desktop | 20:24 |
| _Groo_ | ill send cookies | 20:25 |
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