[07:26] <dholbach> good morning
[08:24] <dpm> good morning everyone
[08:45] <dholbach> hey dpm
[08:48] <dpm> morning dholbach
[09:12] <popey> Morning!
[10:49] <dpm> popey, dholbach, I've moved our 1:1 calls to later on in the day, as I want to spend some more time on the next cycle's planning
[10:49] <dpm> sorry for the short notice
[10:49] <dholbach> dpm, no worries
[10:49] <dholbach> dpm, that gives me some more time to hack on the help app - maybe I'll have something interesting to show until then :)
[10:55] <dpm> dholbach, awesome!
[10:56] <dholbach> brb
[10:58] <popey> dpm: good! I'm stupidly busy this morning! :D
[11:01] <dpm> ok :)
[11:23] <dholbach> lunch time, bbiab
[15:31] <mhall119> dpm: call?
[15:31] <balloons> mhall119, shall we sneak the standup in quickly
[15:32] <mhall119> balloons: I'm on a call with dpm
[15:32] <balloons> too late then :-)
[16:45] <dpm> balloons, sorry Firefox crash
[16:45] <dpm> will be back in a sec
[16:45] <balloons> LOLOLOL.. I've been talking to no one
[16:52] <inetpro> hi everyone
[17:45] <mhall119> the best part about being a parent is the look on your children's faces as you sing bohemian rhapsody far too loudly in front of them
[17:45]  * inetpro lol @mhall119
[17:45] <elfy> so does elfy
[18:48] <balloons> standup mhall119 ?
[19:01] <mhall119> balloons: sure, here?
[19:02] <balloons> mhall119, yep go for it
[19:03] <mhall119> so I have the API django codebase integrated with the Devportal/CMS codebase
[19:03] <balloons> mhall119, usually it's of the format, what you did, what you will do and blockers
[19:03] <mhall119> and I have working importers for qdoc, doxygen and sphinx
[19:03] <mhall119> remaining importesr are yuidoc and cordova for the HTML5 stuff
[19:03] <pleia2> balloons: I have a collection of observations (some good, a few pretty bad) from newcomers I was working with at the QA jam yesterday, best to sent a report to the ubuntu-quality mailing list? (bug reports exist)
[19:03] <mhall119> then I need to provide a command and crontab file for use with the charm
[19:04] <balloons> pleia2, hey, awesome. Yes please send them along to the list so all can participate and discuss
[19:04] <pleia2> great, will do :)
[19:04] <balloons> perhaps wxl and some others will share experiences from there jams as well with quality
[19:04]  * pleia2 nods
[19:04] <mhall119> concerns right now are apidocs that are not in the archives: scopes for RTM, a couple of the QML ones
[19:05] <mhall119> balloons: are the autopilot json docs in the archive package now?
[19:05] <mhall119> and the general concerns that always exist whenever there's a change to the charm/deployment process
[19:07]  * mhall119 done
[19:09] <balloons> mhall119, bah, lost my text when I answered, lol
[19:10] <balloons> so for part, the json docs are moving into vivid proposed for both the uitk and autopilot. They should hit the archive very soon I hope. I'll inquire more from veebers today about timing
[19:10] <balloons> I'm now working on adding a quality section under apps to d.u.c. I'm blocked on waiting for an example of what the narrative would look like
[19:11] <balloons> We can't deprecate the old links completely until it's in place, but it would be nice to see an early preview of what it would look like
[19:14] <mhall119> balloons: FYI, I haven't looked into what work will be required to include sourcecode in this import
[19:16] <balloons> mhall119, right. Any luck on the narrative bit?
[19:16]  * balloons is done also
[19:19] <mhall119> balloons: was that in the json also?
[19:21] <balloons> mhall119, it should be.. last I inquired you said you hadn't look at it yet and it would require more work, etc, but perhaps we're confused on the point
[19:22] <balloons> mhall119, I specifically am interested in this: http://people.canonical.com/~nskaggs/autopilot/guides/page_object.html#page-object-guide
[21:10] <mhall119> balloons: turns out I lied about sphinx docs importer being done, it was exiting without processing the pages (tutorials, guides, faq, etc), I'm working on those now
[21:11] <balloons> mhall119, ahh. yes that was the bit I was after
[21:11] <balloons> mhall119, so once that is done, is there something I can help with?
[21:12] <mhall119> balloons: I don't think so, but this is going to take some doing, because like the API docs these have multiple pages stuffed together in the same HTML chunk, and I'm going to have to separate them
[21:12] <balloons> mhall119, will separating these take changes a-ok or no?
[21:18] <mhall119> balloons: they should, it looks like the objects.inv gives me anchor names for each "section" in the HTML chunk, so I can look them up based on that
[21:18] <Kilos> greetings from south africa
[21:19] <mhall119> balloons: but, making changes like removing pages or moving them from one place to another will likely leave you with duplicates, since none of the importers will remove data from the database
[21:19] <mhall119> hello Kilos
[21:19] <Kilos> oh my this must be the best luck ever
[21:19] <mhall119> oh?
[21:19] <Kilos> hi mhall119  i was told to tlk to you
[21:19] <Kilos> talk
[21:19] <mhall119> heh, good timing then
[21:20] <Kilos> yeah sorry for typos im almost asleep
[21:20] <balloons> mhall119, so restructuring would need to be coordinated with you? mhall119 why not wipe and re-create each time?
[21:20] <mhall119> balloons: because of the potential for things to go badly
[21:21] <mhall119> balloons: we wouldn't want a back package update or interrupted process to leave the website without docs
[21:21] <mhall119> bad package
[21:21] <balloons> mhall119, so wait for a proper build then copy it over?
[21:21] <mhall119> Kilos: what can I do for you?
[21:21] <balloons> I guess I would hate to leave re-structing into the hands of manual
[21:21] <balloons> that said, we just did most of it, I doubt much more will happen for a bit
[21:21] <Kilos> can you please help me with how to get an official domain name for a site i want to create for the teams on #ubuntu-africa
[21:22] <mhall119> balloons: if you only do those kinds of changes once per release, you should be safe
[21:22] <balloons> right, kk
[21:22] <Kilos> this is all new to me
[21:22] <mhall119> Kilos: do you need help obtaining the domains, or just knowing what domain you can use?
[21:23] <mhall119> loco teams typically pick and register their own domain names
[21:23] <mhall119> such as http://ubuntu-fr.org/
[21:23] <Kilos> i need help obtaining one as its for an official site that will be the same as the za loco site
[21:23] <mhall119> which is permitted under the Ubuntu trademark policy
[21:23] <Kilos> oh you dont know of the project
[21:23] <mhall119> Kilos: what do you mean when you say it's "official"? Is it a site run by Canonical?
[21:24] <Kilos> well rt just put ubuntulog in there for me today
[21:25] <Kilos> the locoteams gave approval for it to be an official gathering place for all of africa
[21:25] <mhall119> Kilos: ok, it sounds like something you can register on your own, not something that would be a *.ubuntu.com site
[21:25] <mhall119> so ubuntu-africa.org or something like that, whatever you want
[21:25] <mhall119> but you don't need anything from Canonical to do that
[21:26] <Kilos> would canonical di it for me?
[21:26] <Kilos> do
[21:27] <mhall119> Kilos: usually not, unless there's a reason it can't be registered and maintained by the people who want it
[21:27] <Kilos> um i wonder if we can get nhaines here
[21:27] <Kilos> he knows the whole story
[21:27] <mhall119> Kilos: who manages https://ubuntu-za.org/?
[21:28] <Kilos> that site is for aids kids i think
[21:30] <mhall119> ? it's the south african loco team's site
[21:31] <Kilos> oh my sorry im looking crooked
[21:31] <Kilos> yes thats our za site
[21:31] <Kilos> the idea is to create one for all of africa along the same lines
[21:34] <popey> ubuntu-africa.org is already taken by a political organisation (and has been hacked)
[21:47] <mhall119> ugh, fun
[21:48] <mhall119> was it the political movement "ubuntu"?
[21:48]  * mhall119 has a hard time taking seriously a hacker group with a Facebook page
[21:48] <Kilos> no ubuntu is an african word meaning together or unity or something similar
[21:49] <mhall119> Kilos: right, but I know there's a social/political movememnt using the same (and a cola, and a coffee, and a wine I think)
[21:49] <Kilos> yes the word has been used for many debious things
[21:50] <Kilos> the word is used to attract people because of the meaning
[21:51] <balloons> knome, pleia2 is there a docs team irc channel?
[21:51] <Kilos> night all
[21:52] <balloons> night Kilos
[21:54] <mhall119> balloons: #ubuntu-doc
[21:55] <Kilos> sorry guys i should have pasted this at the start of our discussion so you could see what the project is about
[21:55] <Kilos> http://slexy.org/view/s2RNrWvZLY
[21:56] <Kilos> night again
[21:59] <balloons> mhall119, thanks.. I swore I got booted last time I tried to join
[22:00] <mhall119> balloons: stop making them write test cases and they'll stop kick/banning you :)
[22:01] <balloons> ^-^