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Noskcajdarkxst, Should wayland be accompanied by weston for the sell-3.16 PPA?06:43
darkxstNoskcaj, its not need for shell, but it should be uploaded along with wayland06:45
NoskcajAre g-s-d or g-c-c needed?06:46
darkxstNoskcaj, I think so, even though there is no explicit dep, lots of input handling changes06:46
darkxstmutter and g-s-d may well step on each other if we don't update in sync06:46
darkxstNoskcaj, and I think it would be more than risky to try and decouple those changes06:49
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darkxstNoskcaj, also need to get grilo-plugins split sorted, can you ping the DM about that again08:56
LinDolhi all12:36
ichiltonI apt-get install'd ubuntu-gnome-desktop on a standard ubuntu-14.10 install (thinking I could switch between standard ubuntu desktop and gnome) and it's messed up ubuntu desktop - it's now half unity (panel, background, title bars etc) and half gnome (the system panel/tray, the system theme terminal is using etc).13:31
ichiltonHow do I fix unity, and can I have both unity and gnome co-exist independantly so I can switch at login?13:31
mgedminsome of the settings (like the theme) are stored in the same place, so switching can be a bit difficult13:32
mgedminI mean, different users could use different settings no problem, but for the same user13:33
mgedminand iirc unity likes to unilateraly reset some of the settings, causing me pain when I switch back to gnome-shell13:33
ichiltonah. ok13:37
ichiltonso they can't really co-exist?13:37
mgedminwell, they co-exist to some extent, but not comfortably, no13:37
ichiltonthanks13:37
ichiltonI guess in that case, if I clear out /home/ichilton, it should fix this then...13:38
mgedminas the fork is progressing I believe unity will be using less and less of gnome's bits and this problem should be smaller in the future13:38
mgedmindo check the ubuntu-gnome-default-settings and the ubuntu-default-settings packages13:38
mgedmininstalling/removing one or both will affect the default settings13:38
mgedminthis is likely why your unity desktop is now half-strange13:39
mgedminand clearing $HOME won't affect the system-wide defaults13:39
ichiltonah, ok13:39
ichiltonthanks13:39
ichiltonindeed, even a new user does the same thing14:02
ichiltonGiven i've not set anything up on this machine yet, I might just re-install.14:03
ichiltonIs the ubuntu-gnome distro exactly the same distro/base, but with the gnome packages pre-installed instead of unity?14:03
mgedminyes14:04
mgedmina reinstall shouldn't be necessary, just remove ubuntu-gnome-default-settings14:04
ichiltonahh, ok14:07
ichiltonYep, that fixed it.14:13
ichiltonExcept I now get a "system program problem detected" on login14:13
ichiltonand the boot up screen (where you enter the encryption password) is still gnome14:13
mgedminthat would be gdm instead of lightdm14:13
mgedminyou can apt-get remove gdm (also make sure lightdm is still installed) to switch back14:14
mgedminas for the problem detected, does it say what program?14:14
ichiltonodd, as it seems to be lightdm on the login screen14:14
mgedminhm, different theme?14:14
mgedminoh, wait, _encryption_ password14:14
mgedminthat's the plymouth theme14:14
ichiltonit says: com.ubuntu.apport.apport-gtk-root14:14
ichilton(the crash)14:15
mgedmininteresting14:15
ichiltonhow do you change the bootup screen?14:15
* mgedmin is researching that question now14:16
mgedminif you have no data files and wish to eradicate all the traces of ubuntu-gnome, yeah, I'm beginning to think that reinstalling might be quicker :)14:17
ichilton:)14:17
ichiltonIs it possible to use cinnamon on ubuntu?14:17
mgedminI don't know14:17
ichiltonk14:17
mgedminplymouth-theme-ubuntu-gnome-logo, plymouth-theme-ubuntu-gnome-text are the two packages that ship the ubuntu gnome boot splash theme14:17
mgedminI'm not sure how the theme is picked from among the installed ones14:18
mgedminthere ought to be a setting somewhere14:18
mgedminoh, update-alternatives14:18
mgedminyeah, removing those two packages will restore the default boot splash theme14:18
ichiltonthanks!14:19
mgedmingoogle gives me http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/07/new-cinnamon-ubuntu-14-04-ppa-stable14:19
ichiltonthanks - i'll have a look around14:20
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Noskcajdarkxst, What else do we need before landing shell 3.16?19:51
darkxstNoskcaj, g-c-c21:10
Noskcajok. I'll get that tomorrow morning, as well as shell-extensions, and talk to the X team about the wayland 1.7 plan21:11
darkxstok thanks21:19
darkxst__Noskcaj, mutter needs soname bump (as per package in staging)22:11
darkxst__Noskcaj, and I uploaded a couple of fixes to gnome-shell in -staging (yesterday) that you need to include22:12
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