Noskcaj | darkxst, Should wayland be accompanied by weston for the sell-3.16 PPA? | 06:43 |
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darkxst | Noskcaj, its not need for shell, but it should be uploaded along with wayland | 06:45 |
Noskcaj | Are g-s-d or g-c-c needed? | 06:46 |
darkxst | Noskcaj, I think so, even though there is no explicit dep, lots of input handling changes | 06:46 |
darkxst | mutter and g-s-d may well step on each other if we don't update in sync | 06:46 |
darkxst | Noskcaj, and I think it would be more than risky to try and decouple those changes | 06:49 |
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darkxst | Noskcaj, also need to get grilo-plugins split sorted, can you ping the DM about that again | 08:56 |
LinDol | hi all | 12:36 |
ichilton | I apt-get install'd ubuntu-gnome-desktop on a standard ubuntu-14.10 install (thinking I could switch between standard ubuntu desktop and gnome) and it's messed up ubuntu desktop - it's now half unity (panel, background, title bars etc) and half gnome (the system panel/tray, the system theme terminal is using etc). | 13:31 |
ichilton | How do I fix unity, and can I have both unity and gnome co-exist independantly so I can switch at login? | 13:31 |
mgedmin | some of the settings (like the theme) are stored in the same place, so switching can be a bit difficult | 13:32 |
mgedmin | I mean, different users could use different settings no problem, but for the same user | 13:33 |
mgedmin | and iirc unity likes to unilateraly reset some of the settings, causing me pain when I switch back to gnome-shell | 13:33 |
ichilton | ah. ok | 13:37 |
ichilton | so they can't really co-exist? | 13:37 |
mgedmin | well, they co-exist to some extent, but not comfortably, no | 13:37 |
ichilton | thanks | 13:37 |
ichilton | I guess in that case, if I clear out /home/ichilton, it should fix this then... | 13:38 |
mgedmin | as the fork is progressing I believe unity will be using less and less of gnome's bits and this problem should be smaller in the future | 13:38 |
mgedmin | do check the ubuntu-gnome-default-settings and the ubuntu-default-settings packages | 13:38 |
mgedmin | installing/removing one or both will affect the default settings | 13:38 |
mgedmin | this is likely why your unity desktop is now half-strange | 13:39 |
mgedmin | and clearing $HOME won't affect the system-wide defaults | 13:39 |
ichilton | ah, ok | 13:39 |
ichilton | thanks | 13:39 |
ichilton | indeed, even a new user does the same thing | 14:02 |
ichilton | Given i've not set anything up on this machine yet, I might just re-install. | 14:03 |
ichilton | Is the ubuntu-gnome distro exactly the same distro/base, but with the gnome packages pre-installed instead of unity? | 14:03 |
mgedmin | yes | 14:04 |
mgedmin | a reinstall shouldn't be necessary, just remove ubuntu-gnome-default-settings | 14:04 |
ichilton | ahh, ok | 14:07 |
ichilton | Yep, that fixed it. | 14:13 |
ichilton | Except I now get a "system program problem detected" on login | 14:13 |
ichilton | and the boot up screen (where you enter the encryption password) is still gnome | 14:13 |
mgedmin | that would be gdm instead of lightdm | 14:13 |
mgedmin | you can apt-get remove gdm (also make sure lightdm is still installed) to switch back | 14:14 |
mgedmin | as for the problem detected, does it say what program? | 14:14 |
ichilton | odd, as it seems to be lightdm on the login screen | 14:14 |
mgedmin | hm, different theme? | 14:14 |
mgedmin | oh, wait, _encryption_ password | 14:14 |
mgedmin | that's the plymouth theme | 14:14 |
ichilton | it says: com.ubuntu.apport.apport-gtk-root | 14:14 |
ichilton | (the crash) | 14:15 |
mgedmin | interesting | 14:15 |
ichilton | how do you change the bootup screen? | 14:15 |
* mgedmin is researching that question now | 14:16 | |
mgedmin | if you have no data files and wish to eradicate all the traces of ubuntu-gnome, yeah, I'm beginning to think that reinstalling might be quicker :) | 14:17 |
ichilton | :) | 14:17 |
ichilton | Is it possible to use cinnamon on ubuntu? | 14:17 |
mgedmin | I don't know | 14:17 |
ichilton | k | 14:17 |
mgedmin | plymouth-theme-ubuntu-gnome-logo, plymouth-theme-ubuntu-gnome-text are the two packages that ship the ubuntu gnome boot splash theme | 14:17 |
mgedmin | I'm not sure how the theme is picked from among the installed ones | 14:18 |
mgedmin | there ought to be a setting somewhere | 14:18 |
mgedmin | oh, update-alternatives | 14:18 |
mgedmin | yeah, removing those two packages will restore the default boot splash theme | 14:18 |
ichilton | thanks! | 14:19 |
mgedmin | google gives me http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/07/new-cinnamon-ubuntu-14-04-ppa-stable | 14:19 |
ichilton | thanks - i'll have a look around | 14:20 |
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Noskcaj | darkxst, What else do we need before landing shell 3.16? | 19:51 |
darkxst | Noskcaj, g-c-c | 21:10 |
Noskcaj | ok. I'll get that tomorrow morning, as well as shell-extensions, and talk to the X team about the wayland 1.7 plan | 21:11 |
darkxst | ok thanks | 21:19 |
darkxst__ | Noskcaj, mutter needs soname bump (as per package in staging) | 22:11 |
darkxst__ | Noskcaj, and I uploaded a couple of fixes to gnome-shell in -staging (yesterday) that you need to include | 22:12 |
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