[06:43] <Noskcaj> darkxst, Should wayland be accompanied by weston for the sell-3.16 PPA?
[06:45] <darkxst> Noskcaj, its not need for shell, but it should be uploaded along with wayland
[06:46] <Noskcaj> Are g-s-d or g-c-c needed?
[06:46] <darkxst> Noskcaj, I think so, even though there is no explicit dep, lots of input handling changes
[06:46] <darkxst> mutter and g-s-d may well step on each other if we don't update in sync
[06:49] <darkxst> Noskcaj, and I think it would be more than risky to try and decouple those changes
[08:56] <darkxst> Noskcaj, also need to get grilo-plugins split sorted, can you ping the DM about that again
[12:36] <LinDol> hi all
[13:31] <ichilton> I apt-get install'd ubuntu-gnome-desktop on a standard ubuntu-14.10 install (thinking I could switch between standard ubuntu desktop and gnome) and it's messed up ubuntu desktop - it's now half unity (panel, background, title bars etc) and half gnome (the system panel/tray, the system theme terminal is using etc).
[13:31] <ichilton> How do I fix unity, and can I have both unity and gnome co-exist independantly so I can switch at login?
[13:32] <mgedmin> some of the settings (like the theme) are stored in the same place, so switching can be a bit difficult
[13:33] <mgedmin> I mean, different users could use different settings no problem, but for the same user
[13:33] <mgedmin> and iirc unity likes to unilateraly reset some of the settings, causing me pain when I switch back to gnome-shell
[13:37] <ichilton> ah. ok
[13:37] <ichilton> so they can't really co-exist?
[13:37] <mgedmin> well, they co-exist to some extent, but not comfortably, no
[13:37] <ichilton> thanks
[13:38] <ichilton> I guess in that case, if I clear out /home/ichilton, it should fix this then...
[13:38] <mgedmin> as the fork is progressing I believe unity will be using less and less of gnome's bits and this problem should be smaller in the future
[13:38] <mgedmin> do check the ubuntu-gnome-default-settings and the ubuntu-default-settings packages
[13:38] <mgedmin> installing/removing one or both will affect the default settings
[13:39] <mgedmin> this is likely why your unity desktop is now half-strange
[13:39] <mgedmin> and clearing $HOME won't affect the system-wide defaults
[13:39] <ichilton> ah, ok
[13:39] <ichilton> thanks
[14:02] <ichilton> indeed, even a new user does the same thing
[14:03] <ichilton> Given i've not set anything up on this machine yet, I might just re-install.
[14:03] <ichilton> Is the ubuntu-gnome distro exactly the same distro/base, but with the gnome packages pre-installed instead of unity?
[14:04] <mgedmin> yes
[14:04] <mgedmin> a reinstall shouldn't be necessary, just remove ubuntu-gnome-default-settings
[14:07] <ichilton> ahh, ok
[14:13] <ichilton> Yep, that fixed it.
[14:13] <ichilton> Except I now get a "system program problem detected" on login
[14:13] <ichilton> and the boot up screen (where you enter the encryption password) is still gnome
[14:13] <mgedmin> that would be gdm instead of lightdm
[14:14] <mgedmin> you can apt-get remove gdm (also make sure lightdm is still installed) to switch back
[14:14] <mgedmin> as for the problem detected, does it say what program?
[14:14] <ichilton> odd, as it seems to be lightdm on the login screen
[14:14] <mgedmin> hm, different theme?
[14:14] <mgedmin> oh, wait, _encryption_ password
[14:14] <mgedmin> that's the plymouth theme
[14:14] <ichilton> it says: com.ubuntu.apport.apport-gtk-root
[14:15] <ichilton> (the crash)
[14:15] <mgedmin> interesting
[14:15] <ichilton> how do you change the bootup screen?
[14:16]  * mgedmin is researching that question now
[14:17] <mgedmin> if you have no data files and wish to eradicate all the traces of ubuntu-gnome, yeah, I'm beginning to think that reinstalling might be quicker :)
[14:17] <ichilton> :)
[14:17] <ichilton> Is it possible to use cinnamon on ubuntu?
[14:17] <mgedmin> I don't know
[14:17] <ichilton> k
[14:17] <mgedmin> plymouth-theme-ubuntu-gnome-logo, plymouth-theme-ubuntu-gnome-text are the two packages that ship the ubuntu gnome boot splash theme
[14:18] <mgedmin> I'm not sure how the theme is picked from among the installed ones
[14:18] <mgedmin> there ought to be a setting somewhere
[14:18] <mgedmin> oh, update-alternatives
[14:18] <mgedmin> yeah, removing those two packages will restore the default boot splash theme
[14:19] <ichilton> thanks!
[14:19] <mgedmin> google gives me http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/07/new-cinnamon-ubuntu-14-04-ppa-stable
[14:20] <ichilton> thanks - i'll have a look around
[19:51] <Noskcaj> darkxst, What else do we need before landing shell 3.16?
[21:10] <darkxst> Noskcaj, g-c-c
[21:11] <Noskcaj> ok. I'll get that tomorrow morning, as well as shell-extensions, and talk to the X team about the wayland 1.7 plan
[21:19] <darkxst> ok thanks
[22:11] <darkxst__> Noskcaj, mutter needs soname bump (as per package in staging)
[22:12] <darkxst__> Noskcaj, and I uploaded a couple of fixes to gnome-shell in -staging (yesterday) that you need to include