[00:02] studio__: have alook: https://appstore.bhdouglass.com/apps [00:02] thanks [00:05] sorry for my "stupid" questions, but in the moment i try to compare Ubuntu-Touch vs. Android vs. iOS vs. Windows-Phone ... [00:06] the questions are not the problem. you not accepting the answers you receive is a problem [00:07] so, how to fix the problems? [00:07] wait till someone fixes the problem or help to fix the problem. [00:08] or pay someone to fix the problem :) [00:08] come on, i thought ubuntu-touch will use same security as ubuntu [00:08] studio__: see? you go again into passive-aggressive mode [00:09] you do not like questions about ubuntu-touch and security :( [00:09] studio__: i explained several times not that you are not helping with asking the same question every 10 minutes [00:10] its more people get annoyed and dont want to help you fix the problem anymore. [00:10] so: what do you want to do to get ubuntu-touch more secure communication choices? [00:11] so, "i try to help" to show what is missing ! [00:11] just asking the same question in here again and again and to blame ubuntu touch and talk bad about is not helping [00:11] and i am not "agressive" ... [00:11] so: what are you going to do? [00:12] read, i am showing what is missing ... [00:12] no [00:13] no? [00:13] you are repeating over and over again what you demand [00:13] no [00:13] you even dont read what i linked to you. [00:14] compare to jolla, they also have "problems" with a sip-client [00:14] you have your opinion and want it your way. and if its not your way you get annoying. sorry but that is the way little babys act. [00:14] studio__: so what do you want to do to help ubuntu touch? [00:15] sure!!! [00:15] what do you think why i bought the E4.5? [00:16] i said before i dont know why you bought the e4.5 at all [00:16] the nexus devices are the development devices. [00:16] because bq told me it will be the first ubuntu-phone [00:18] if you had choose an already supported device (like the nexus or other on the linked page) you could use ubuntu-touch already [00:19] why should i buy a google-phone to use ubuntu-touch? this is nuts .... [00:20] because the nexus devices come with an open bootloader and published kernels and drivers [00:20] so the nexus is using kernel 3.13 or higher? [00:21] which nexus? and why kernel 3.13 or higher? [00:21] is it or not? [00:24] don't like this question? [00:24] studio__ why don't you leave? there absolutely nothing constructive about your questions. [00:24] ok, enough of you agressive attitude [00:26] studio__: you dont have a clue at all. you dont know nothing about kernels, hardware or software development. yet you make a big fuzz and be annoying. so get your work done yourself and dont bother others because its not going like you want [00:26] why agressive? just a simple question. you said all is open source ... [00:27] i understood to use a lower kernel, but why are you so agressive? [00:28] i was grabbing some links for you to inform you how you could contribute with bugs or whishlists to get your ideas into ubuntu-touch [00:28] @matv1, please, gimme a advice ... [00:29] but since have a very aggressive and bad attitude i dont linke them to secure the team of your aggressivness. [00:29] and you would not read them anyway. [00:30] "but since have a very aggressive and bad attitude" i do not have !!! i only have questions ... [00:30] so the channel knows you want secure email , secure voice call and secure video calls. you can leave now and see in some time if ubuntu-touch includes that then. [00:31] what about simple video calls? [00:31] what about libre office? [00:31] studio__: you dont have questions. questions would mean you are open to answers and accept the answers. but you dont accept answers so you just want to state your demands. [00:31] we already read that, too [00:32] ok, gimme an answer about libre office [00:32] studio__ I am afraid the only advice I can give you is to go away. k1l_ is right. You should have been kicked a long time ago. [00:32] studio__: already answered [00:32] we saw your demand for libreoffice, too. so you can leave now [00:33] did i missed something? where did you answered the question about libre office? [00:33] studio__: you can leave now. we saw your demand for libreoffice [00:35] @matv1, sorry but to kick/ban a user will not answer the question [00:36] i thought here is "open mind", isn't it? [00:36] studio__: where is your open mind? [00:37] that's the question ... [00:37] * matv1 is ignoring studio__ [00:41] why ppl enjoy trolling i will never understand [01:02] Hi, I've recently installed Ubuntu touch on a Nexus 4 - is Ubuntu Touch on the Nexus 4 supposed to be capable of performing the "convergence" feature of booting the full Ubuntu once the phone is connected to a monitor via HDMI??? [01:03] maclesea: afaik not yet. [01:05] bummer :-\ Ok, good to know - thanks :-) === chriadam|away is now known as chriadam [01:28] maclesea: at the moment only the ubuntu phone uses the new unity and the new MIR xserver. but for 16.04 that should be standard on the desktop, too. [01:43] k1l_: sabdfl says not 16.04. [01:45] not 16.04? but when? [01:46] When it's ready. [01:46] ah ok. [01:47] Maybe 16.10? [01:47] 16.04 will be packed anyway. [01:47] I'm not convinced it's going to be that exciting for anyone not on a laptop or tablet or phone. But I'm looking forward to it anyway. [05:57] is there a way to show new apps and scopes released ontop of ubuntu app store? [06:35] Hi [06:35] i just wanted to know, is there a ubuntu touch version for the samsung galaxy tab 2 GT P3100? [06:36] i found a link which says, it is possible to install ubuntu touch on the tab 2 [06:36] but i was unable to get hold of the complete details [06:36] could somebody help with this pls [06:38] !devices | Saleesh [06:38] Saleesh: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices [06:38] Saleesh: also check the XDA forums for your device [06:38] sure [06:38] thanks :) [07:17] popey: Do you know when the porting guide is comming? [07:19] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting coming soon... :p [07:22] yea but they told me that it would be out last friday ;-) [07:22] not that it really matters tho, but I'm so eager to get started :D [07:22] do you know although the other one is obsolete, is it still usefull? [07:23] wich devices are you trying to port? [07:26] clitjes: see if your device is on the XDA forums === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away [07:30] good morning [07:33] I read in the news that ubuntu phone is not centered on apps. Last year I read, that android apps can be installed. [07:35] lotuspsychje: Ok I will but I would like to follow the official guide from A-Z [07:35] ulrichard: I'm also wondering about running android apps [08:18] Can I run a bitcoin wallet app on ubuntu phone? [08:42] ulrichard: there is a bitcoin wallet app in the store. [08:42] ulrichard: https://appstore.bhdouglass.com/app/org.sambull.bitcoin-app [08:47] popey: That's great. Thanks for the link. [09:30] Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Clean Out Your Computer Day! :-D === didrocks1 is now known as didrocks [11:32] whil i like the idea, i don't get the sense of ubuntu touch yet. are there current devices where you can install it without problems? [11:34] !devices | Flexman [11:34] Flexman: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices === _salem is now known as salem_ [11:36] Flexman: yes there are. see the devices list. the idea of using ubuntu-touch with the swipe from all sides is quite a different experience to the very similar approach from android and iphone. [11:37] k1l: ok, thats three devices [11:37] and what's the approach in comarison to sailfish OS? [11:37] Flexman: that are the development devices. yes. but scroll down [11:38] i am not familiar with the sailfish OS [11:39] k1l: yes, but even the working ports are very experimental. e.g. the version for the Galaxy S2 says "Not working: Calls/SMS". lol [11:39] i know it's not the fault of ubuntu that drivers are not open, but it makes things useless somehow [11:40] Flexman: yes, that is the issue with the ARM section not shipping drivers and with no generic drivers available. [11:41] :-( i really hope fore more open phones to come. would be nice if they get as open as computers are [11:41] its like the pc section in the very beginning, driver wise. or even worse [11:41] on the other hand: the normal Ubuntu seems to work via usb-stick on my Surface Pro, so why doesn't Ubuntu Touch? [11:43] ubuntu touch is based on the new unity8 and mir. the regular ubuntu is still the unity7 with x11 server. the surface is intel pc cpu, so i bet the generic pc drivers work there [11:43] ok, so the problem is, that there is just no easy ready-to-install package for usb-stick boot? [11:44] concering arm: isn't the fairphone open? [11:44] Flexman, there is the "Ubuntu Next" desktop imagfe (which is currently largely the phone UI and slowlky being moved to behave like the desktop of unity7 [11:45] that should work on an x86 surface i guess [11:45] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-desktop-next/daily-live/current/ [11:48] Flexman, no phone is open ... modem, sensor and largely the graphics drivers are usually all fully closed and oyu have to use binary drivers ... even on the fairphone [11:50] The manufacturers of these components simply dont open their specs ... there is some reverse engineerig of graphics drivers going on but thats still far from done [11:51] (and only for certain sets of these chips weher you actually *can* reverse engineer) === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:15] Mirv: ping [12:16] tsdgeos: pong [12:16] Mirv: you sure https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-messages/+bug/1418505 is becaue of 5.4? [12:16] Launchpad bug 1418505 in indicator-messages (Ubuntu) "QT5.4: Ciboriums scanning sdcard message is deleted but the indicator never turns off " [Undecided,New] [12:16] i tried vivid alone and i'm getting the same problem [12:17] Mirv: could you try? [12:18] tsdgeos: that's a question to davmor2 [12:18] oh right :D [12:18] didn't realize it wasn't you that file the bug [12:18] if it's on vivid too, then we can lose the qt5.4 tag [12:18] davmor2: ↑↑↑ [12:18] tsdgeos: there are some such bugs in LP, even :) [12:18] ogra_: hm, this is annoying... would it be more open on a x86-phone? [12:18] but yes I modified it [12:19] davmor2: by the way thanks to tsdgeos landing-005 now has all the previously found Qt 5.4 (runtime) issues fixed [12:19] Flexman, nope ... the components would still be the same [12:19] there is no open modem at all afaik [12:20] not sure if any sensores exist with open drivers, i have not seen any ... there are some GPS chips with open drivers i think but then it depends on the manufacturere if he uses these specific ones [12:21] so in the end it always boils down to having to use binary drivers that were compiled against android [12:22] (this is not different in sailfixh or firefoxOS btw ... we all suffer the same issue here) [12:22] *sailfish [12:22] (and we all solved the issue differently :) ) [12:23] * Stskeeps concurs [12:25] hmm... [12:25] and i guess since there are only few manufacturers nowadays you can't feature open hardware [12:25] there is no open hardware ... thats the point [12:26] if you want to make calls you will have to have a modem [12:26] and as stated above, there are no oipen ones [12:27] I went to a talk at FOSDEM about replicant. The amount of work (including desoldering components from a manufactured phone) the dev goes through to get a "fully FLOSS" phone is astounding. And a bit depressing. [12:28] tsdgeos: he's not online today so better ask on the bug [12:28] so at least this component is closed in any case and you havce to use a closed driver ... if you are a phone manufacturer, why then bother to have open stuff for other bits if that is just more expensive [12:29] popey: were you in the panel session about this stuff as well where i was in? (lameere) [12:29] (which it most likely is, since the components you want to use are simply not the mass market ones) [12:29] Stskeeps: no, i didnt know when or where that was [12:29] ah, it was instead of a cancelled talk by somebody from FSF or FSFE i think [12:29] i saw an irc ping too late about it [12:30] was it videoed? [12:30] we had a good discussion about this stuff from different spectrums [12:30] i hope so [12:30] we're all so terribly screwed when it comes to this stuff, even on hw level, especially from pov of backdoors etc [12:30] yeah [12:30] Stskeeps, were any manufacturers there ? [12:30] btw the readme from john-mcaleely at http://people.canonical.com/~jhm/barajas/ should answer your GPL question. [12:31] linked from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices [12:31] ogra_: i think somebody who were making allwinner based solutions but that's it [12:31] :/ [12:31] as expected [12:31] Stskeeps, yeah. been up for a while (long enough for that README to have bitrot), but I'll put up the latest & greatest shortly [12:31] alright, i'll take a look [12:32] curious to see how you guys handle it as well, so :) [12:37] Stskeeps, hopefully we can evolve the logistics beyond a tarball, to the same github repo BQ host their android kernels in. [12:37] (now we're public) [12:43] ogra_: hm. and i guess a small company can't order open hardware parts that are competitive, can they? [12:43] or let's say design such thigns [12:43] right [12:44] even a large company cant ... if they want to stay competitive [12:44] cents count :) === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [13:10] ogra_: how do we enable ssh on the phone these days? [13:11] I need to update the wiki, it seems outdated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes#Accessing_the_device_over_SSH [13:11] adb shell "android-gadget-service enable ssh" [13:11] ta [13:11] * popey updates wiki [13:11] (or from the terminal app) === ara is now known as Guest94549 [13:17] ogra_: hmm. how about a phone with an old chipset and ArOS as operating system :) [13:17] or a C64 phone where the GSM functions technically are connected via User-Port! [13:17] rvr: jibel I did some analysis, I suspect you got the url-dispatcher crash because you didn't refresh the dash when installed r830. If you refresh the dash you do _not_ get the crash. [13:18] rvr: jibel so I would like to argue this is a "pass" for music app, as you've just re-produced an already existing dash bug. [13:18] popey: I couldn't reproduce the crash after rebooting the phone [13:19] popey, it'd also means that the crash won't happen when the app is on the image? [13:19] jibel: I think so [13:19] correct [13:19] rvr, popey OK to mark it as pass [13:19] thanks guys. [13:20] popey: Moved the card to passed. [13:20] thanks! [13:20] clear to upload to the store? [13:21] Flexman, well, find such a phone and feel free to port ubuntu to it :) [13:24] ogra_: why using ubuntu when it could run aros?? [13:24] but how about the raspberry pi? isn't it more open than some phones? [13:25] LOL [13:26] no, the RPi is a pile of closed stuff [13:26] even needs a binary bootloader blob [13:26] if you want an open board go for a beaglebone [13:26] When I connect the bq E4.5 (Ubuntu Edition) through USB to an Ubuntu 14.04.1, I get the following errors: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10142280/ [13:27] i've read an article that snappy can be installed on raspberry === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [13:28] ogra_: but there is an arduino phone. also too much closed stuff? [13:28] lotuspsychje, that's for the new quad-core RPi [13:28] ah okay [13:28] Flexman, can you imagine running a full OS on an arduino ? [13:28] ogra_: sure. CP/M! [13:30] call 1231543 /o /q [13:33] ogra_: the question is how long these things can be powered by battery, is it? [13:34] the universities should do more open hardware projects. unfortunately they even in software things are now using more google & co :( [13:40] davmor2: when you have time, please re-check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-messages/+bug/1418505 to see if we can remove the qt5.4 tag [13:40] Launchpad bug 1418505 in indicator-messages (Ubuntu) "QT5.4: Ciboriums scanning sdcard message is deleted but the indicator never turns off " [Undecided,New] [13:41] When I connect the bq E4.5 (Ubuntu Edition) through USB to an Ubuntu 14.04.1, I get the following errors: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10142280/ [13:41] → I did a 'reset to factory settings' and now the device shows up as a USB device. [13:42] My issue now is that it does not show up at 'adb devices'. [13:43] Should 'adb devices' show the phone? [13:43] simosx: adb devices is disabled unless you enable developer mode [13:43] tsdgeos, I enabled 'developer mode'. [13:43] ah [13:44] * simosx wonders if I should reconnect after I enable dev mode. [13:44] simosx: try toggling it off and on again, sometimes it gets stuck here for no apparent reason (or reboot) (or reconnect the usb) [13:44] one of the three things always ends up wokring :D [13:50] tsdgeos, tried all (toggle off/on, reconnect usb, reboot phone), still does not respond to 'adb devices'. [13:51] simosx, what ubuntu do you use? [13:51] vivid, utopic… [13:51] simosx, and you have the android-tools-adb package installed on your PC ? [13:52] simosx, if 14.04, you either need a newer package of ^ or do [1]. But maybe ogra_ can confirm. [1] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10142629/ [13:52] jgdx, I have trusty (14.04.1). [13:52] jgdx, eek, no [13:53] ogra_, oh :| [13:53] dont fiddle wuth usb.ini ... never ever [13:53] i had to… back in the day [13:53] "android-tools-adb" Installed: 4.2.2+git20130218-3ubuntu23 [13:53] the android-tools-adb package ships everything you need [13:53] proper udev rules and the proper device ID for usb [13:53] ogra_: you sure you don't need a newer package? i remember also having some issues with trusty not finding the phone, maybe i didn have android-tools-adb [13:54] tsdgeos, the PPA has all the latest packages [13:54] ogra_: right, but is simosx using that ppa? [13:54] oh, i would expect so ... :) [13:54] * ogra_ is pretty sure that is explicitly stated on all wiki paes [13:54] simosx: does "which `adb`" show the right adb in use? [13:55] heh, right, you might hit the same issue popey hit today [13:55] without the backquotes, no? [13:56] I just managed to get it to work by adding the vendor ID into ~/.android/adb_usb.ini. I already have an entry there for my other phone, so it's possible the presence of that file caused the problem. Let's check. [13:57] the presence should be fine, adb wont care === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [13:57] but yeah, if you dont use the phablet-tools PPA (which you really should) you might have an old version [13:58] So, with the vendor ID into ~/.android/adb_usb.ini, the phone is detected by 'adb'. [13:58] > which adb [13:58] /usr/bin/adb [13:58] what did you get as return vale for popey's command above [13:58] "which adb" [13:58] ah [13:58] > dpkg -S /usr/bin/adb [13:58] android-tools-adb: /usr/bin/adb [13:58] fine then [13:59] 4.2.2+git20130218-3ubuntu23 is pretty old though [13:59] https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/ubuntu/tools/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=trusty [14:00] * ogra_ wonders how the android package sneaked into that PPA ... that should not be there [14:02] simosx, add that PPA ... you will surely also want the pahblet-tools package from there for the more conbveninet phablet-shell ... and prehaps for the pahblet-screenshot commands [14:02] plain adb shell is painful [14:02] Just added 'ppa:phablet-team/tools', then 'apt-get update/upgrade'. Now, 'adb devices' shows the phone without the 'adb_usb.ini'. [14:02] \o/ [14:03] thanks [14:16] cyphermox, did the new nm land in rtm? [14:16] hi ogra, how one recover from forgetting the password of ubuntu phone? I noticed this new BQ Aquaris phone has some recovery boot mode which has factory reset but I'm unsure if that would leave phone in fuctioning state necessarily [14:17] Tm_T, i guess thats a question for john-mcaleely [14:17] * ogra_ only knows the surface of the recovery magic modes [14:17] ogra_: thanks, now I have new lead then (: [14:18] john-mcaleely: hi, please take a quick peek to the question above thanks (: [14:18] Tm_T, factory reset does what is says on the tin. returns you to out-of-box state [14:18] john-mcaleely: so I will have working Ubuntu? then it's perfect [14:19] Tm_T, fully functional ubuntu, yes [14:19] woohoo I'm saved! [14:19] minus a forgotten password [14:19] note to self: never change password when head is not right [14:20] popey: nice work on that event app! [14:20] wat? [14:20] popey: you got a link to your apps somewhere? [14:21] dance events [14:21] thats yours right? [14:21] uh, no [14:21] Tm_T, it will wipe the world though [14:22] holdon lemme get my n7 [14:24] popey: eventbrite [14:24] oh, yes. thats just a webapp [14:24] i like that one [14:30] Hello there [14:30] ogra_: that's allright, I only have few pictures I did not post somewhere yet [14:30] all just testing [14:30] Hi. Can somebody help me? Ubuntu System Settings is fully translated to hungarian language, but the "Rotation Lock" string displays in english. [14:30] Translation: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-system-settings/trunk/+pots/ubuntu-system-settings/hu/+translate?start=0&batch=10&show=untranslated&field.alternative_language=&field.alternative_language-empty-marker=1&old_show=all [14:31] Any help on galaxy note 8 gt n5100 [14:31] Hello. Ubuntu website says "The world’s first Ubuntu phone is now available for sale all over Europe, direct from the manufacturer, BQ" but I cannot find it. Can somebody give me the link from where I can purchase it? [14:31] this phone actually will be wiped at least once this or next week anyway, as I'll let my coworkers to test things [14:38] Guest27374, I think the phone will be available really really soon from bq.com, however ubuntu.com was too fast to announce. [14:41] Guest27374, https://twitter.com/bqreaders/status/564745426503745536 [14:45] sebas: /win 17 [14:45] erm [14:45] ricsipontaz, I cannot find the 'Rotation Lock' message at that link. There is just 'rotation'. [14:46] simosx: I think it comes from the indicator-display [14:47] https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/vivid/+source/indicator-display [14:48] ricsipontaz, that string is present in /usr/share/locale-langpack/hu/LC_MESSAGES/indicator-display.mo on the image in the Ubuntu phone (bq E4.5). What image are you trying? === marcusto_ is now known as marcustomlinson [14:50] Hmm, how do I sudo to root on the bq E4.5? [14:51] simosx: I only tried it in the emulator [14:51] ricsipontaz, if you can get a shell on the emulator, then you can check if the message is present in Hungarian. [14:52] simosx: the password is your pin to unlock the phone [14:52] ricsipontaz, run: msgunfmt /usr/share/locale-langpack/hu/LC_MESSAGES/indicator-display.mo | grep -A 1 Rotation [14:52] cwayne, thanks. [14:53] simosx: np :) [14:57] simosx: msgid "Rotation" msgstr "Forgatás" -- msgid "Rotation Lock" msgstr "Forgatás zárolása" [14:57] But it is still english === uhhimhere is now known as dingdong === dingdong is now known as FBIKGBNSACIAFAAA === FBIKGBNSACIAFAAA is now known as magicfingers === magicfingers is now known as THISISFUNLULZ === THISISFUNLULZ is now known as g0tch4 [15:08] ricsipontaz_, the package 'indicator-display' has only those two messages. The code properly initialises 'gettext', so I cannot figure out why those two messages do not appear in the localized versions. [15:18] Hi! Is there any chance to get LTE working on Google Nexus 4 with ubuntu-touch? http://www.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-4-lollipop-lte/ [15:23] Kalle_Varvikko: according to that link, it would seem you would simply need to insure the old radio which allows lte is enabled. though i think ofono maybe doesn't work so well with lte/4g at the moment. i pretty much never see lte/4g on my nexus 5 with ubuntu [15:24] hi [15:24] anyone [15:24] looking for ubuntu stable version for i9300 [15:24] anyone please [15:25] anyone can redirect me to download the rom for ubuntu in i9300? [15:26] mardy: how do I get https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts/54_tests and https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts/remove_declared_undefined landed? [15:26] will you or shall i ping someone? [15:26] !devices | jacky_ [15:26] jacky_: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices [15:27] tsdgeos: I pinged dbarth some time ago. David? ^ [15:30] rsalveti, how can i turn the mic volume down on mako? [15:31] now that i think the robotic sound issue is fixed from flashing the radio, people complain that i'm way to loud when calling from my mako [15:31] * kenvandine thinks we should have in-call volume/mic controls :) [15:33] kenvandine, he is on vac. for two days [15:33] ogra_, do you know? [15:33] :-D [15:33] nope [15:33] i'm sure i can do it through pulse [15:33] that much hangover from the release party? :) [15:34] haha, not sure the brazilians had one :) [15:34] * ogra_ surely had quite some hangover on sunday :) [15:34] and an awful trip back home [15:36] kenvandine: i still get complaints about echo on my hammerhead [15:37] i don't get echo complaints [15:37] just to loud [15:37] making it hard to understand [15:37] unless the other end pulls the phone away from their ear [15:38] kenvandine: well, stop yelling at the phone [15:38] i guess :) [15:38] dobey, stop phoning from the toilet [15:38] haha [15:38] no need to be so angry [15:39] ogra_: stop calling me when i'm dropping a duke :P [15:39] dude ! [15:39] * kenvandine roflao [15:39] haha [15:39] i'll never call dobey [15:40] ubuntu phone, now with auto-tune [15:40] as long as we dont ship on devices with nose-sensor all should be fine :) [15:40] i spy someone has hadded an FM radio app to the store [15:40] oooh [15:40] it doesn't work on krillin, anyone fancy testing on mako? [15:40] bah [15:41] * ogra_ bets you will find denials in syslo [15:41] g [15:41] well unless popey wrote the app [15:41] defaultServiceProvider::requestService(): no service found for - "org.qt-project.qt.radio" [15:41] and just made it unconfined and approved it anyway :P [15:42] haha [15:42] we should help the guy [15:42] popey, well, i guess that needs bzoltan_ or ricmm [15:42] i just get "no fm support" dialog on hammerhead [15:43] to provide this bit from the SDK [15:44] bfiller, has anyone talked about adding in-call volume/microphone volume controls to the dialer? or maybe just something for settings? [15:44] i had never thought about that, but i would love it right now [15:46] can you not just use the volume buttons? [15:46] for speaker volume that works [15:46] not for the mic [15:47] (or s/speaker/earpiece/) [15:47] you can put a sock over the mic [15:47] i just listened to it on the other end, i was able to put my wife's phone down 3 feet away [15:47] and it sounded like a speaker phone [15:47] so loud [15:48] she didn't complain about the mic volume until i flashed the radio to fix the robot voice :) [15:48] you should go back to the autotune radio [15:48] now i don't sound like a distorted robot, but so loud she can't stand it [15:48] it's impressive that it can get this loud though [15:53] am I correct in that Telegram scope is not supporting groups(yet) ? some bugreports in lp suggest that it does but i cant find the feature [15:54] is discontinue [15:54] anyone can redirect me to download the rom for ubuntu in i9300? is discontinue [15:54] i surely see roups in mine [15:54] *groups [15:54] but i havent created any group ... i have always been added to them by somebody else [15:55] jacky_, the devices wikipage should have a link to a launchpad page on which you can contact the porter [15:55] ogra_ I am in both but see neither :( [15:55] !devices [15:55] You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices [15:56] i really wish amazon had an open API for prime music [15:58] kenvandine: I have not seen that on the plan [15:58] kenvandine: are you saying the mic input volume is too loud? [15:58] * kenvandine wonders if android does that [15:58] yes [15:58] it's really loud [15:58] hello, what will the situation be regards to kernel updates since bq ships with blobs [15:59] locked on release kernel if they don't cooperate? [15:59] before it was hard to understand... which apparently is a known problem with some older radio firmware versions [15:59] varikonniemi: it will get updates to the kernel version that works with it, when necessary [15:59] varikonniemi, the ubuntu security team will likely apply security fixes ... beyond that blobs are blobs ... not much to do about it [15:59] i flashed it to a newer one, and no longer sounds like a distorted robot :) [15:59]