=== Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi [04:55] hi all [05:04] \o [05:08] sup zmoylan-pi! [05:10] good result Saturday ..shame i slept through it [05:10] Spurs beat arsenal 2-1:D === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [09:06] morning [09:06] raspi2.0 has a photosensitive crash [09:06] http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=99042&sid=cbfe5d362c6923b9d22a1d601b1a5506&start=25 [09:07] oh that's page 2 of the thread - click back to page 1 to read it all [09:09] morning boys and girls. [09:30] Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Clean Out Your Computer Day! :-D [09:32] morning JamesTait [09:33] brobostigon, o/ === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [10:01] quiet in here today [10:02] is popey awol again? :-p [10:03] wat [10:03] not awol, busy [10:03] is that not the same thing? :-p === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [11:04] hi === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [11:06] popey: ping [11:06] hello sebsebseb [11:06] seems like a intresting week Ubuntu Phone week? [11:07] however it says something about how some networks will sell the phone with a deal such as Giffgaff if I read that right? [11:07] and I hadn't switched just yet [11:07] no [11:07] what's the no to? [11:08] they won't sell the phone with a deal. [11:08] or not sell the phone [11:08] ,but provide a deal for it [11:08] hang on [11:08] it's just the only one that has confirmed support, right? [11:08] you go to bq website and buy the phone, then after purchase their site detects your location and offers you local sim deals [11:08] for the uk the local sim deal is a bundle from giffgaff [11:09] so it's not that the "networks will sell the phone", it's that you buy the phone from bq, and then get the option of a local sim deal [11:09] so in other words just activate the sims I got anyway really or? I had to pay Orange/EE a bit more, hence not activing them yet. since uh [11:09] ,but I should switch away before 13th Feb [11:09] You can put whatever sim you want in it [11:10] it's just an offer to a) make it easy for people to buy a sim-only deal, and b) a nod from the networks that they're looking at this. [11:10] 'tis unlocked. Suspect that GiffGaff came out in support because that's their modus operandi [11:10] ok so it probaby will just be a standard Giffgaff sim deal then, nothing reall special since it's for an Ubuntu Phone? [11:10] awilkins: yes makes sens for Giffgaff to support it [11:11] That's not what I heard, but I haven't seen it. [11:11] popey: yeah the bit about networks was a little confusisng in the stuff I read, but yeah I guess it's what your saying [11:11] buy from BQ [11:11] then get recommended Giffgaff as the network [11:11] however it should work with any network anyway [11:11] yup [11:11] exactly [11:12] I think I might buy one [11:12] High featured phones that are priced at a point where people consider a no-contract provider are just what the likes of GiffGaff want to see [11:12] I'll see what people say when it's actually out [11:12] SuperMatt: I'll buy one 167 euros is currently 125 pounds it seems [11:12] I'm sure we can do a better exchange rate [11:12] SuperMatt: it may be a hold head set, but you still expect to pay about £100 for it right? [11:13] Yeah, the Euro took a nosedive when Syrizia got in in Greece [11:13] SuperMatt: a old above [11:13] handset :d seen my typo [11:14] SuperMatt: according to another site that came up it seems to say £125 to whenI looked earlier [11:14] a result that came up [11:15] and yes the pound is I think still worth more than the euro, so should save a little like that to then :d [11:15] Is the BQBuntu phone better hardware than an N4? [11:15] awilkins: Nexus 4? I think the hardwaer is a bit old and limting really, depending on how you look at the specs, but popey is the expert [11:16] Brief look ; no [11:16] Nexus 4 is a 1.5Ghz quadcore ARM 7 with 2GB RAM [11:17] Aquaris is a quadcore 1.3 Ghz ARM 7 with 1GB RAM [11:17] awilkins: yes low end phone, but that's ok for a firstone [11:17] maybe should be a bit cheaper than £125 though, but oh well [11:18] popey: yay it's got a euro plug like my Jolla :d [11:18] if it was say £100 I would jump on it immediately [11:18] popey: well I actsaully bught a converter whilst over in Belgium, so it's not compelty useless in UK now, if I decide to plug it in. yes can connect with another charger or charge via USB [11:18] but it's just that little more expensive and I'm thinking of getting a new laptop [11:19] SuperMatt: well it nearly is, but yes there's that extra £25 or so [11:19] SuperMatt: yeah I don't quite have that £125 to spend right now, but soon I will :d [11:20] Would prefer it it if was a no-charger [11:20] euro plug is ok [11:20] You can get a 2A charger for a fiver these days [11:21] Not sure how "scopes" are not "apps", apparenlty [11:21] looked a bit lik the JOlla phone to some extent, going by the video I saw [11:22] SuperMatt: reallly £25 makes such a big differnece? [11:23] heh it does mean something to me at the moment, but I got more money soon anyway :d === deegee is now known as drussell === zmoylan-pi is now known as samsung-tv === samsung-tv is now known as zmoylan-pi2 === zmoylan-pi2 is now known as zmoylan-pi === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [14:39] Gah, XChat did that thing where the notifier counter doesn't disappear from the icon [14:40] * awilkins wonders if this has changed in 14.10 because it's changed visually [14:45] *phew* running vivid hasn't broken everything \o/ [14:46] SuperMatt, do you mean "hasn't broken everything" or "hasn't broken anything"? [14:46] anything [14:47] although one could argue "hasn't broken everything" is also true because nothing is broken [14:48] aye but hasn't broken everything could mean that _almost_ everthing is broken, but one thing does still work [14:57] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSF4rmFLpsY [15:07] mmmm, pi [15:10] shauno, yes please [15:12] be ready in a flash... :-P [15:12] * awilkins has a Theta [15:13] or less so. I've never tried this 'noobs' thing before, but I can't seem to find a tinky-SD adaptor [15:13] I have a USB one and the usual big-SD-with-a-tinky-slot ones [15:14] stinky? [15:14] yeah, I have one of the russian-doll adaptors somewhere [15:14] but I have no idea where. and knowing my luck, it'll be missing a bit [15:14] I don't like russian dolls - they're full of themselves [15:15] well, s/luck/atrocious organizational skills/ [15:16] Most of the new ones I buy have a big-to-tinky adapter (by design, mostly) [15:16] The adapters are at least perceptible by mortal eyes [15:17] Although I do prefer to keep them in a case [15:17] I used to, but the sd-card cases are really useful for keeping tiny tiny screws [15:17] Storage media that's both expensive AND small enough to be sucked up the hoover trivially must have seemed a grand idea [15:17] well see, they didn't have hoovers on star trek [15:18] Maybe it's just sensible to have N cards where N is the number of devices you have with a card slot [15:20] They must have had some cleaning solution on Star Trek [15:20] 90% of household dust is human skin flakes [15:23] You cannae break the laws of dirt [15:23] they should cover themselves in glue [15:23] Imagine being the cleaner for Riker's quarters [15:24] wasn't that deana's job? [15:24] "I don't know _what_ you do to these sheets, Mr Riker, I shall have to get out the Rigellian Swamp Beetle enzymes again..." [15:25] !ohmyyyy [15:25] On NX-01 they probably just let a swarm of something gross from Flox's lab loose in your quarters for an hour [15:26] Then tempt them back into their box with a single Oreo [15:26] NCC 1701-D probably has a blue lasery thing that sweeps across the room living it in a pristine condition [15:27] well now, this is a downside of ipv6. I feel like I need to hire a small child to read the ip address off the TV [15:27] Convert them to GPG words? [15:27] Hmm [15:28] Maybe IPv6 needs something similar [15:28] Only with a longer word list, obvs [15:28] awilkins, wasn't there an episode to that effect where picard got caught on the ship with the beam getting closer because he wanted his own saddle when he went riding? [15:29] diddledan, Yeah, that was a Baryon sweep [15:29] gotta hate those baryons [15:29] Of course, many fans have pointed out that if you remove all the baryons from the Enterprise it would cease to exist [15:29] from anyone else, that'd sound incredibly trekkie. from dan, it sounds like it's probably illegal in 37 states [15:29] lol [15:30] Baryons includes protons and neutrons [15:30] Maybe they mean "weird exotic baryons that we're not going to bother defining well" [15:31] He also managed to prevent a terrorist group getting hold of nasty trilithioum though [15:31] \o/ [15:31] ... by callously removing the device stabilising the storage container so their shuttle goes "foop" in a big shower of hot matter [15:31] shauno, no, they made it legal in arkansas [15:31] so 36 [15:32] awilkins, karma is a bit mean [15:33] really? htf did he find little ol' me? the ceo of dyn.com (formally dyndns.com) just followed me on the twit [15:34] you're quite difficult to hide [15:43] Good morning peeps :) [15:44] AlanBell: ping [15:45] tzag === marcus_ is now known as Guest93350 [16:21] What's people's choice of wiki these days for hosting API documentation? [16:34] NB: private and self-hosted [16:35] bigcalm, mediawiki seems to be defacto these days [16:35] bigcalm: MoinMoin works fine for me. [16:35] Only real advantage over mediawiki is that it uses flat-files as opposed to a DB. [16:41] Gollum has been suggested. Most tempting === MooDoo is now known as Guest8839 [16:52] hello [16:56] Looks like you can port from MoinMoin to Gollum really easily. [16:57] teehee: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/11400246/BandQ-sends-Fifty-Shades-of-Grey-memo-warning-staff-to-expect-soar-in-demand-for-cable-ties-and-rope.html [17:32] ; [17:32] ;] [17:37] http://englishcheesecake.com/cheesecake/valentines-red-velvet-cheesecake [17:37] aww yeah [17:37] nom [17:39] it's a good thing they don't deliver to the Channel Islands, i'd be broke [17:40] 1.75Kgs of cake, you'll get the blame if the waistband/hips expand, expect the "does my bum look big in this question" and woe betide you if you get the answer wrong [17:42] there is no right answer to that question [17:42] +1 to that [17:42] No matteer what you say, you'll get beaten round the head [17:43] and if you pause to think about it is even worse... [17:43] Been there, made that mistake, have the bruises to show for it [17:44] answer instantly is also unacceptable for some reason as it implies you've always thought the answer you give [17:45] After 10 years of marriage, I'm a bit safer, I just refer to the answer I gave earlier and point out that my other half has lost weight since then [17:56] ah well you see, i was cunning [17:57] i selected pre-portioning, included a set of plates and forks/spoons... *AND* it's going to the workplace [17:57] so sharing is basically forced [17:57] You're buying valentines cake for work colleagues? [17:57] Ooh, er.... [17:58] no :P [17:58] Or do you work from home [17:59] this is to be sent to someone :) [17:59] Heh [17:59] i don't live in England so i can't try their fine looking cakes :( [18:00] Don't worry about that, just looking at it, it'll taste sickly sweet [18:00] Plus its got "E" numbers in it, so there's a fair chance the eater will end up becoming hyperactive [18:01] ;] === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [19:19] how can i cat a file forever on a loop with shell script? [19:20] or rather, within a pipeline [20:35] Can somebody fix this phrase? I speak English very poorly after a year in the UK. [20:36] After a great year at blabla, I decided to continue my career as an IT contractor. I've signed a contract as a Senior DevOps Engineer at blabla. [20:37] looks fine to me [20:37] Good luck! :) [20:37] so itś not [20:37] I´ve decidede? [20:37] it seems like both possible in my head, but I just use them at random [20:38] I´ve decided, I signed, etc. [20:38] both are fine [20:38] thanks btw! :) [20:38] you used "I've" later [20:38] sounds better if you don't "I've I've I've" [20:38] ahhh right [20:38] at my new company 80% is foreign too [20:38] at my old company 100% of my team [20:38] I might learn some proper Englishski [20:38] * ujjain hopes [20:39] :) [20:40] btw, do you know how AWS normally works? [20:40] I have to manage AWS things... [20:41] but uh, I haven´tb een given a username/pass [20:41] and I get a little confused, with this new ¨cloudy¨ thing [20:41] people still have a seperate user/pass [20:41] not exactly relevant in here [20:41] with seperate permissions, right? [20:41] ahhh ok [20:41] Iĺl ask in ##aws [20:45] ujjain: you get a web account, and keys, probably after you start [20:45] evening all [20:46] yo [20:47] ahh, [20:47] I already had my first day, but uh, I´ll just ask tomorrow [20:47] don´t want to look foolish, but haven´t worked much with AWS [20:47] cheers MooDoo [20:48] you're welcome, but i think you meant that for popey ;) [20:48] uh, I use cheers for anything [20:48] I meant good evening MooDoo [20:48] by saying cheers MooDoo [20:49] ah lol good evening :D [20:53] We'll have to stamp that out! [20:54] cheerios [20:54] I finally have a native source of English as my main source of English, although the Scottish accent is hard to understand sometimes. [20:55] +1 [20:55] same with strong irish, welsh, liverpudlian, scouse, manc, brum... [20:55] :) [20:55] hehe, yeah true [20:55] and jamaican man [20:56] rally driving with an irish accent is epic!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2b0bzUYq8Y&feature=youtu.be [20:58] haha [21:02] letting youtube try to subtitle it is even better :) [21:05] popey: don't forget Guern [21:05] :D [21:08] dont think I've ever heard that one [21:13] hmm i think i found some old radio clips a bit ago [21:13] a friends dad when growing up, could not follow :D [21:36] hm, I can't figure out how to get sound out of the pi [21:37] zmoylan-pi to the rescue! ;) [21:46] i just ssh into mine... i could add maybe a bt adapter and use a bt speaker... [21:47] and isn't one of the poles on the av socket audio [21:48] found it .. have to change the hdmi mode in the boot config? [21:48] ouch [21:49] I Dunno, I think that's an easy one :) [21:49] if it's a pi issue it's documented. audio on linux is ... heh [23:47] http://www.bq.com/gb/ubuntu.html