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poningruhello00:10
nhainesHello.00:10
poningrua friend said there is an event going on in the city today?00:10
poningrucoudlnt find anything other than the00:10
nhainesThat is possible, if the city you mean is San Francisco.00:10
poningruhehe yeah00:10
poningrusorry00:10
poningrucouldnt find anything other than the global jam00:11
nhainesThat's the event.  http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-california/2984-ubuntu-california-san-francisco-qa-jam/00:11
darthrobotTitle: [Ubuntu California San Francisco QA Jam | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal]00:11
ianorlinthere is still the meeting for the california team tonight at 7pm00:11
ianorliniin here00:11
elkythat's online only though00:12
poningruah ok00:12
poningruhmm elky do I know you from somewhere?00:12
elkyyears ago i believe00:12
elkyyou were fl then yes?00:12
poningruhehe yeah00:12
nhainesI'm sure there's social chatter at the UBJ, too, but it's ending soon.  There's Ubuntu Hour on Wednesday, though, and that's prely social!  http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-california/3016-ubuntu-hour-san-francisco/00:12
darthrobotTitle: [Ubuntu Hour San Francisco | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal]00:12
rwwand a debian dinner that day too00:13
* poningru is trying to get back into local lugs etc. after a hiatus :)00:13
poningrualthough things seem really organized out here in the bay/west00:13
poningruwelp I better head out it's like a half an hour ride into the city... I'll try to catch the tail end of that event00:14
poningruthanks for the help guys :)00:14
rwwif you're half an hour from here, you'll probably get here as we leave...00:14
elkynhaines: i think i've done the wiki stuff for the meeting tonight now00:16
nhainesLooks good!00:17
DonkeyHoteididn't even notice poningru was in the channel00:17
nhainesrww, elky, jyo, pleia2, and einfeldt: are any of you planning to be around for the meeting for the post-event report?00:26
nhainesAlso DonkeyHotei.00:26
nhainesAlso probably not poningru.00:26
DonkeyHoteii won't still be at gandi.net but i intend to be on irc00:31
nhainesWell, got all the swag counted out.01:18
nhainesAlso repacked into only two boxes.01:18
nhainespleia2: ping!01:48
rwwhihi01:51
rwwelky and I will be around for it01:51
nhainesrww: yay!01:51
nhainesAlthough I was pinging pleia2 for something else.  :)01:51
elkyyeah i really only put that item on the agenda so there was an item on the agenda02:07
nhaineselky: it multiplied.02:11
elkyoh really02:11
* elky loads up a browser02:11
rwwthere's a SCaLE item now too02:11
rwwalso a blank line because reasons02:11
rww(lol wiki stylesheet)02:11
elkyoh obv02:12
elkyphilipballew: will you be around in an hour or so to give a rundown on what happened at your bug jam?02:14
philipballewelky, I should be able to. I'm about to grab dinner but will try to be back on, but if not just text me if its like 705 and I am not on yet02:15
philipballew530-305-649702:15
rww"vivid recollections"02:28
* rww slaps nhaines around a bit with a large trout02:28
nhainesrww: I'm proud of myself.02:30
elkythis is going to be a long tenure, isn't it02:31
rwwfor you maybe02:31
nhaineslol02:31
rwwnhaines is going to find it hilarious02:31
elky"going to"?02:31
ianorlinwait with the orange box my desktop another computer there would be a redicoulous amount of ram at the sale booth02:32
elkysale?02:36
ianorlinscale02:36
nhaineselky: all available RAM must go!02:36
ianorlingah typo02:36
DonkeyHoteiwe didn't end up actually leaving gandi.net till almost 602:37
pleia2event went will, will blog+post photos later, but need to spend some fancy dinner time with the husband this evening02:40
pleia2s/will/well02:40
rwwattendee count?02:40
rwwwe guessed 12 or so02:40
nhainespleia2: oh, did poningru make it?02:40
pleia2I don't think so02:41
pleia2rww: yeah 1202:41
DonkeyHoteinhaines: no02:41
* pleia2 dinnertime02:42
nhainesMeeting in 2 minutes.02:58
DonkeyHotei#startmeeting03:00
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DonkeyHoteiwhoops03:00
nhainesSo go ahead and #chair me and we'll get this started.03:00
DonkeyHotei#chair nhaines03:00
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nhaines#chair elky ianorlin03:01
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nhainesThanks.  And speaking of, yes, it's time for another meeting.  :)03:01
elkyo/03:01
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nhainesWelcome all, to our last meeting before SCALE.  The agenda can be found online here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/15February803:02
darthrobotTitle: [CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/15February8 - Ubuntu Wiki]03:02
nhainesAnd offline on the copy you printed out last week, which is now out of date, by the way.03:02
ianorlinprinted?03:02
nhainesI would like to officially state that I would rather be watching Better Call Saul and I resent you all for making me wait.03:02
nhainesOkay, so first up on the agenda.03:03
nhaines#topic Bug Jam reports from San Diego and San Francisco03:03
DonkeyHoteinot sure philipballew is here03:03
nhainesI guess there was some kind of Ubuntu Global Jam meeting in San Diego last week.  philipballew, would you care to share a few words?03:03
philipballewIm not sure either DonkeyHotei03:03
philipballewnhaines, I probably can sure03:04
philipballewMe and Mikey met up and went over some bugs to that we have seen and we worked on testing a few of those and stuff like that. So yeah, it was pretty much the best meeting ever,03:05
nhainesDid you report new bugs or triage existing ones?03:06
philipballewhum,03:07
philipballewI dont think we reported any so we must have triaged then.03:07
philipballewMakes me sound like a Dr.03:08
nhainesAnd was it just the two of you that made it or did you see any newcomers as well?03:08
philipballewI think I should go by Dr Phil now03:08
philipballewJust the two of us03:08
philipballewYou and I03:08
nhainesOkay, well, thanks for that report.03:08
nhainesJust an hour ago, the Ubuntu Global Jam in San Francisco at Ghandi wrapped up.03:09
nhainesWe have a few people who were there.  Who wants to tell us about it?03:09
elkyme i guess03:09
philipballewyeah, I dont own a camera, but just picture us working in a starbucks and you get the idea03:09
elkyso over the course of the jam about 12 of us worked on finding bugs in the installer for xubuntu.03:10
elkymost if not all of us found something I believe, and quite a few bugs got raised03:11
DonkeyHoteii ran a live session and not the installer03:11
nhainesThat's good to hear!  Was everyone working on Xubuntu?03:11
elky(I found one as soon as i booted up the iso on my netbook; the installer didn't show on the screen. if it happens for you, just hit the space bar and it will start the install)03:11
elkynope, there were lubuntu images for the PPC macs that showed up03:12
DonkeyHoteii found 3 bugs, 2 of which i reported, and the other 1 pleia2 said was a known issue03:12
elkythere were 2 of those there somehow03:12
elkyanyone else want to chime in with what they did?03:12
DonkeyHoteipleia2 brought one set of lubuntu-ppc discs, not expecting 2 machines to need them03:12
nhainesIf you continously swap them really fast I'm sure they work fine that way.03:13
DonkeyHoteione of the ppc machines had a radeon and the other had nvidia03:13
ianorlindid the raedon fail to install?03:13
nhainesSounds like perfect for range testing then.03:13
elkyI'm not sure what the ppc outcomes were03:14
DonkeyHoteithe radeon seemed to work great, but the live session was a no-go on nvidia03:14
nhainesSounds like really good news for the initial Xubuntu experience.  Fantastic work, everyone.03:14
nhainesHow was the food?03:15
elkyanyway, there was pizza, and cookies made by lyz and a big cheers to the Gandi.net folks for hosting us03:15
DonkeyHoteipleia2's cookies were delicious but i don't think penguins are meant to be ubuntu-orange03:15
nhainesDonkeyHotei: obviously if they've been in the California sun and gotten a tan.03:16
nhaineselky: were there any newcomers who hadn't done bug work before?03:16
elkynhaines: i think donkey brought some newbies, and i think lyz's partimus colleague was new to it too03:16
nhainesFantastic.  Any last thoughts before we move on?03:17
DonkeyHoteichris peeples arrived late and never did figure out what to do03:17
nhainesHopefully he was able to see what everyone was working on and was encouraged to join in again at the next event.03:18
elkyoh, there were photos too on lyz'z flickr. if someone can find that link...03:19
elkyshe promised a blog post with photos so keep an eye out for that03:19
elkyi think we can move on though03:20
ianorlinnot uploaded yet03:20
nhainesI was just checking her Flickr stream.03:20
elkythis is one from early in the jam https://www.flickr.com/photos/pleia2/16475907882/03:21
darthrobotTitle: [Small but committed group here at the San Francisco #Ubuntu Jam :) | Flickr - Photo Sharing!]03:21
nhainesLooks good!  https://www.flickr.com/photos/pleia2/16475907882/03:21
darthrobotTitle: [Small but committed group here at the San Francisco #Ubuntu Jam :) | Flickr - Photo Sharing!]03:21
nhaineshttps://www.flickr.com/photos/pleia2/16475907882/03:21
darthrobotTitle: [Small but committed group here at the San Francisco #Ubuntu Jam :) | Flickr - Photo Sharing!]03:21
elkyhaha03:21
nhainesSo we'll harass her to make a photo set later.  :)03:21
elkyshe will03:21
nhainesAnd just a reminder that with Ubuntu on her phone, she could have uploaded these photos directly to Flickr!03:22
nhaineselky: thanks so much for your report.  :)03:22
nhaines#topic Looking ahead to SCALE 13x03:22
nhainesSo SCALE's coming up pretty soon here.  In just under 2 weeks the fun begins.03:23
DonkeyHoteishe had ubuntu on a tablet, not a phone03:23
nhainesI've been receiving packages from Canonical all week, and so far we've received everything but hardware.03:23
nhainesThanks to the Ubuntu community fund, we're going to have a lot of swag available: http://people.ubuntu.com/~nhaines/images/events/2015/scale13x/swag.jpg03:24
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nhainesWe have 375 Ubuntu desktop DVDs, Ubuntu polo shirts for each booth volunteer, a bunch of Ubuntu pictogram t-shirts to give away as prizes.03:25
nhaines90 lanyards, and 50 each of lapel pins, sticker sheets, and pens.03:25
rwwnice03:26
nhainesAnd I'll use some of the money I received to buy bottled water for booth volunteers and candy for the booth, plus a couple bottles of hand sanitizer.03:26
nhainesIn addition, Canonical is planning to provide phones running Ubuntu.  I'm going to lean on my contacts this next week, but we'll probably end up with Nexus 4s running the same software as the retail devices.03:27
nhainesIn addition, System 76 is providing laptops to use as display systems.03:28
ianorlinare we sure everything will fit?03:28
nhainesI don't have the floorplan available as a linkable graphic, but we're in booth 85 which is one of two booths that are the first you encounter when you enter the smaller ballroom.03:29
nhainesianorlin: I'll draw up plans later this week, but we won't have too *little* hardware, and that's a good thing.03:29
nhainesGeorge Mulak also offered to provide a projector, so we will be able to run a slide show, phone demo reels, and so on.03:30
ianorlinand I offered to bring a desktop with vms of flavors03:30
nhainesAnd Jorge Castro is planning on bringing an Orange Box and being on hand to talk about Ubuntu Cloud, and hopefully Snappy Ubuntu Core.03:30
DonkeyHoteii'd suggest 86_64ing the candy in favor of something healthier03:31
nhainesI'm fairly certain the butterscotch mints we usually buy are almost entirely nutritionally null.03:31
DonkeyHotei(like 86ing but more modern)03:31
nhainesBut I'll probably buy the candy a couple days before, so I'm open to suggestions.03:32
nhainesI believe Lyz was going to send down some Ubuntu books for giveaways.03:32
nhainesI'll follow up with her on that.03:32
nhainesWe have a large number of booth volunteers, and that means we may all just be able to enjoy the show!03:33
rwwwhat's the count so far?03:33
nhainesI shot some video in January that I want to put up demonstrating the phone interface, so I hope to edit that and get it online toward the end of the week.03:33
nhainesWe have six booth volunteers, not counting myself.03:34
* ianorlin counts 5 not including nhaines on the wiki03:35
nhainesYes, one isn't listed on the wiki.03:35
ianorlinah ok03:35
DonkeyHoteiwiki needs updating then03:35
rwwnice03:35
nhainesAnd of course, José Antonio Rey will be joining us as well, and I'm grateful for that.  :)03:36
nhainesSo it's looking good and I expect a smooth conference.03:37
nhainesUbucon is unafilliated but last I spoke with Richard Gaskin, everything sounded like it was going to be fantastic.  Assuming the booth's all set up on Thursday night, I'll be spending some time there on Friday morning!03:37
nhainesAny questions or comments about SCALE?03:38
elkysounds good so far03:38
DonkeyHoteii am now 98% sure i won't be there03:38
nhainesGreat.  Thanks to everyone who's volunteered to work the booth.  It looks like we have guaranteed full coverage!03:38
nhainesOkay, so that's all I have to say about that so far.03:39
nhaines#topic Other business03:39
nhainesDoes anyone have any other announcements or business they'd like to discuss before we wrap things up?03:40
DonkeyHoteirww and elky even have matching accents, it's cute03:40
rwwI'd like to thank Gandi for hosting the QA jam today, it was awesome :)03:40
nhainesHaha, good to know!03:40
ianorlinisn't next meeting end of scale ?03:40
rwwHers is Australian, mine is UK+CA.US which apparently = Australian03:40
elkyDonkeyHotei: that's awful clever of us03:41
nhainesrww: I hear that Gandi was fantastic and super coooperative.03:41
elkythey were03:41
nhainesianorlin: unless someone else wants to chair the meeting, we usually do not hold a meeting the weekend of SCALE.03:41
elkyoh, did i do the wiki wrong03:41
ianorlinI am not sure many would show up03:41
nhaineselky: nope, we'll fix it.03:42
elkyk03:42
nhainesUsually no one at SCALE makes it because everyone's tired and then two days later SCALE flu sets in.03:42
ianorlinI might technically make it back in time but would be exhuasted03:42
ianorlinand probably have lots of other things to do03:42
rwwdo we have anything coming up shortly after scale to discuss?03:42
rwwif not, i vote for cancelling it03:42
nhainesNothing known.03:43
ianorlinnothing on agenda03:43
nhainesSo yes, I propose we cancel it.03:43
ianorlin+103:43
nhaines#vote Nonbinding consensus: Should post-SCALE meeting of February 22nd be cancelled?03:43
darthrobotPlease vote on: Nonbinding consensus: Should post-SCALE meeting of February 22nd be cancelled?03:43
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darthrobot+1 received from nhaines03:43
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DonkeyHoteithis vote is counter-intuitive03:44
DonkeyHotei+1 for a negative?03:44
darthrobot+1 for a negative? received from DonkeyHotei03:44
elkyso a week or a fortnight after the 22nd?03:44
nhaineselky: fortnight.03:44
elkyyay03:44
nhaines#endvote03:45
darthrobotVoting ended on: Nonbinding consensus: Should post-SCALE meeting of February 22nd be cancelled?03:45
darthrobotVotes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:003:45
darthrobotMotion carried03:45
nhainesOkay, since there were no objections, we're going with traditions.03:45
nhainesAnything major goes to the mailing list that weekend, and we'll have our next meeting as scheduled on March 8th.03:45
nhainesI'm looking forward to SCALE, and meeting some of you there!03:46
nhainesI'll post links to training material on the mailing list.03:46
nhainesAnd I'm going to see if I can lean on Canonical and get that nifty Ubuntu phone instruction brochure artwork that was in the gift boxes at the bq event.03:47
nhainesAnd with that, we're off.  Have a great week, everyone!  See some of you at SCALE!03:47
nhaines#chair DonkeyHotei03:47
darthrobotCurrent chairs: DonkeyHotei elky ianorlin nhaines03:47
ianorlin#endmeeeting03:47
nhainesWant to bring us out, DonkeyHotei?03:47
elkylol03:47
DonkeyHotei#endmeeting03:47
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nhainesFantastic.03:47
DonkeyHoteiianorlin: only 2 e's03:48
nhainesAnd that's a good reminder too that any LoCo member can run the meeting if leadership isn't around.  It's happened before.  :)03:48
nhainesThough luckily not without notice!03:48
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ianorlinnhaines did you leave me a voicemail last night19:47
nhainesNope!19:50
philipballewpleia2, With all your intentional travel these days, do you have two passports? How do you manage to get say like a visa if you need to travel as well?22:47
DonkeyHoteii suppose that would be more of an issue for unintentional travel23:18
pleia2philipballew: it hasn't come up yet, I've only ever been to 3 countries that required Visas from US citizens and only one of them made me send off my passport (.au is just an online Visa, and the Oman gov't took care of mine directly with just a scanned copy of my passport since I'm speaking at their state university)23:31
philipballewpleia2, thats good. Usually a visa only takes a week or two, but you can pay to make it shorter sometimes.23:32
philipballewwell the two times I have had to get one as well.23:32
pleia2you can get a 2nd passport, I might when we go to Israel, but it only lasts for 2 years23:33
akkWhy would you get a 2nd passport?23:35
rwwakk: in the case of Israel, some countries refuse to issue visas or stamp passports if they have an Israeli stamp23:36
akkah23:36
akksigh23:36
pleia2yeah, they can outright deny entry, and it can be dangerous23:36
philballewI think Isreal doesn't stamp if you request it these days from what I hear.23:39
pleia2this is true, but I want the stamp :)23:40
philballewpleia2, ah yeah, have you been yet?23:41
pleia2philballew: nope23:41
philballewpleia2, Might be time to fix that. :)23:42
pleia2never been to the middle east before, I'm changing that next week with a trip to Oman23:42
pleia2planning on it, just need to find time+money23:42
pleia2the former being the more difficult one these days :\23:42
philballewpleia2, oh, well good luck on your upcoming trip.23:44
philballewpleia2, you always seem really busy23:44
pleia2thanks :)23:44
pleia2I am too busy, but no airplanes in March! (just one local conference)23:44
pleia2after Oman, my next trip isn't until mid April23:45
philballewi realized I have a few Spirit airlines expiring in March, so I am gonna try to go to Cabo for a few days.23:45
philballewAlso, never fly Spirit if you are not prepared for it.23:45
pleia2no kidding23:46
pleia2it's like the RyanAir of the US :)23:46
pleia2I've not flown either, because no23:46
philballewpleia2, yeah, my friend got a 90 USD round trip from Oakland to Chicago last month.23:47
philballewyou just cant bring more that a backpack23:47
philballewbut if I am only away a few days in Cabo, it will be fine23:48
pleia2given the seat sizes, you can barely bring yourself :)23:48
philballewI might make a new friend!23:48
pleia2hehe23:48
philballewthey charge to use the bathroom.23:49
pleia2I thought that was only a Ryanair proposal, I didn't know anyone had actually gone ahead with it23:49
nhainesSounds like a good reason to being a water bottle.23:49
pleia2x_x23:50
philballewSomeone told me Spirit is doing it for some of their flights. maybe not their long international onee.23:50
philballewThey fly to Peru for instance.23:50
philballewMy flight will only be 2 hours so I can hold it.23:50
pleia2I can't imagine23:50
pleia2I tolerate long hauls on legacy carriers (usairways, united), but they're pretty awful in economy, not much better in business23:51
pleia2Spirit is just... :(23:51
pleia2I prefer Lufthansas to Europe and Singapore or New Zealand to Asia, they all <323:51
philballewAir New Zeland is really nice23:52
pleia2yeah23:52
nhainesLufthansa and Singapore are nice. <323:52
pleia2I'm flying Qatar Airways Business class to Oman (conference is paying)23:52
pleia2it will be the best flight ever23:52
nhainesBusiness class is a good start.23:53
philballewThat seems like one nice conference.23:53
nhainesI always seem to fly ballast class.23:53
pleia2Qatar is always in the top 5 of lists of "world's best airlines"23:53
elkyi miss airnz23:54
philballewWith southwest not flying international, I found a new way to fly out of the country and use my sw miles23:54
pleia2you and your southwest23:55
philballewIt's not a bad airline. I like their lack of a class system on it, as well as they have the best customer service out of any airline in the US.23:56
philballewalso, for people who check bags, two free bag's23:56
* philballew does not like to check a bag23:56
pleia2I almost always check a bag, contrary to most of my frequent flyer counterparts, but I have status with multiple alliances so I get free bags anyway23:57
pleia2and I quite like seat assignments, if my connection sucks or there are delays, I don't get stuck in a middle seat23:57
philballewyeah, seat assignments are done by your boarding group. The people who pay an extra 20 bucks per flight or something get priority boarding.23:58
philballewPeople typically fly sw for the price23:59
pleia2that's what I hear, but it's been a long time since I've seen a southwest flight be cheaper23:59
pleia2virgin america is really the only carrier that's often cheaper (to the few cities they service)23:59

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