[04:51] <Kilos> morning inetpro and all others
[05:13] <SDCDev> morning Kilos
[05:13] <Kilos> hi SDCDev  home again?
[05:13] <Kilos> hi clr  
[05:14] <clr> hey, just testing windoze chat client.  Don't you sleep Kilos?  
[05:14] <Kilos> lol ya i do but my new project is too exciting to sleep lots
[05:15] <SDCDev> Im in the Western Cape now Kilos :P
[05:15] <SDCDev> what project? :D
[05:15] <Kilos> wow rondloper
[05:15] <SDCDev> hehe been here since last week Wednesday
[05:15] <Kilos> let me fing you the link SDCDev  
[05:16] <Kilos> s/fing/find
[05:16] <Kilos> http://slexy.org/view/s2RNrWvZLY
[05:16] <SDCDev> went to calitzdorp, montagu, robertson, stellenbosch, camps bay, bloubergstrand, melkbosstrand, now in Somerset West :)
[05:16] <Kilos> wow lovely
[05:16] <Kilos> great way to get to know your own country
[05:17] <Kilos> i hope you get work everywhere
[05:17] <Kilos> and of course promote ubuntu all the way
[05:17] <SDCDev> lol I haven't worked in too long :P thats why I been up since 4 :) doing some work :P
[05:17] <Kilos> lol
[05:17] <SDCDev> I have been promoting Ubuntu allot :D 2 converts this month already :>
[05:18] <SDCDev> 1 is a Chiropractor, the other is a musician
[05:18] <Kilos> dont forget to invite them all here
[05:18] <Kilos> great work
[05:18] <SDCDev> lol they dont know what IRC is :P
[05:19] <Kilos> that should be the first thing you teach noobs to linux because here is where the help is
[05:19] <SDCDev> hahaha :P I guess, but they're not tech inclined :P they just think it looks and works better than windoze :P
[05:20] <SDCDev> windows 8 users are so easy to convert
[05:20] <SDCDev> lol
[05:20] <SDCDev> I use Gnome though, and always tell them to install gnome :O
[05:20] <SDCDev> its allot easier for a first timer
[05:20] <SDCDev> transition from Windoze -> Ubuntu + Gnome = instant
[05:21] <Kilos> if they can install gnome they can install hexchat
[05:22] <Kilos> too many new peeps have to rely on the main forum for help, and it gets hectic there
[05:22] <Kilos> and often they dont tell noobs to use sudo in commands
[05:23] <Kilos> so add irc and our mailing list to your recruiting program
[05:24] <Kilos> thats how i got here, the fly found me floundering in one of the main services
[05:35] <SDCDev> hahaha :D I got here somehow, not sure how :P but it wasnt for help...
[05:36] <SDCDev> I think I got here through the get involved link
[05:37] <Kilos> yes advertise our new site please
[05:37] <Kilos> the fly has done a wonderful job with it
[05:37] <Kilos> everyone says its awesome
[05:38] <Kilos> wb spinza  
[05:51] <captine> SDCDev: I have the same challenge.  Colleagues using Ubuntu wouldnt be interested in IRC... anyhow, morning all, and cheers... off to work I go.
[05:51] <Kilos> hi captine  
[05:51] <Kilos> have a good day
[06:22] <Kilos> oh my
[06:25]  * Kilos investigating nikola
[06:35] <SDCDev> http://www.quora.com/What-are-the-5-tips-of-a-productive-developer
[06:35] <SDCDev> thats interesting
[06:43] <Kilos> hi St3baS  
[06:43] <St3baS> hey hey 
[06:43] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[06:45] <Kilos> tell us about yourself, like where you are and what you do, and if you need help just state your prob
[06:51] <Kilos> morning superfly  
[06:52] <superfly> morning Kilos!
[06:53] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy  
[06:53] <Kilos> and lo highvoltage  
[06:53] <highvoltage> wow, the ubuntu-za website is looking really nice these days
[06:54] <Kilos> lovely hey
[06:54] <highvoltage> o/
[06:54] <Kilos> pat our fly on the back
[06:55] <superfly> hey highvoltage
[06:56] <St3baS> Hey all, Im from JHB and I started using ubuntu last week Monday, SDCDev brought me to this channel :) 
[06:57] <Kilos> wonderful St3baS  now you can join our happy family
[06:58] <St3baS> :D
[06:58]  * Kilos pats SDCDev  on the back
[06:58] <Kilos> St3baS  mark this channel as your favourite
[06:58] <ThatGraemeGuy> mornings
[06:59] <Kilos> are you here with your browser?
[06:59] <ThatGraemeGuy> me?
[06:59] <Kilos> no St3baS  
[06:59] <Kilos> hehe sorry
[06:59] <Kilos> lol
[07:00] <ThatGraemeGuy> :-D
[07:00] <Kilos> just me that types too slow
[07:01] <Kilos> :D
[07:01] <SDCDev> is it too early for first power nap of the day?
[07:02] <St3baS> haha nope im using xchat
[07:02] <Kilos> nope SDCDev  when touring nap time is your decision
[07:02] <St3baS> i will add to my startup script
[07:03] <Kilos> cool St3baS  
[07:03] <Kilos> SDCDev  keep up the good work
[07:04] <Kilos> highvoltage  welcome to ubuntuza on the tweet place
[07:06] <Kilos> lol the whole continent is going to have to get used to my mistakes
[07:06] <SDCDev> lol :>
[07:06] <SDCDev> :D
[07:07] <Kilos> hmm...
[07:08] <SDCDev> anyone who can't find a way to shorten procrastination isn't lazy enough
[07:08] <Kilos> i think i even drove ThatGraemeGuy  to drink
[07:08] <Kilos> hehe
[07:08] <SDCDev> lol
[07:08] <SDCDev> Im procrastinating my nap time by being on IRC
[07:08] <Kilos> good dark time was made for sleeping
[07:10] <SDCDev> hahaha no ways... dark time was made for working
[07:11] <Kilos> no man , that was actually made for owls and bats
[07:11] <Kilos> eskom changed that some
[07:19] <Kilos> oh i forgot rats
[07:20] <Kilos> superfly  do you know the size of our site?
[07:21] <superfly> nope
[07:21]  * Kilos needs to squeeze ian for space one sometime in the future
[07:23] <Kilos> space for one
[07:24] <superfly> Kilos: the front page is 476k
[07:25] <superfly> Kilos: but when you move to the next page, your browser will have already cached most of that, so you won't download much more.
[07:25] <Kilos> wow thats nice and small so can be hosted just about anywhere for free
[07:26] <Kilos> im mainly worried about the size i need on a host for ubuntu-africa site
[07:26] <Kilos> maybe ubuntu does that for one
[07:27] <superfly> Kilos: don't worry about hosting, I'll worry about that.
[07:28] <Kilos> ty superfly  and the address? what do i make a nikola site as?
[07:28] <Kilos> mysite doesnt sound right. you had the fly in it too while doing the work
[07:29] <superfly> Kilos: I'm not sure of the address. I'll have to think about that
[07:29] <Kilos> cool ty
[07:29] <Kilos> hi qwebirc75399  
[07:29] <Kilos> oh my
[07:30] <Kilos> he skrikked him spider white
[07:32] <Kilos> hi octoquad  
[07:35] <Kilos> hi Jacques_Stry  
[07:36] <Jacques_Stry> Morning
[07:37] <Padroni> hola
[07:37] <Kilos> hi Padroni  
[07:37] <Padroni> Hi
[07:37] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[07:38] <Padroni> should probably choose a nick and register it
[07:38] <Padroni> thanx
[07:38] <Padroni> I am here because of a Cape Linux Users Group tweet
[07:38] <Padroni> else I wouldn't have known about this group / website
[07:38] <Kilos> great
[07:39] <Padroni> Where are the meetings held?
[07:40] <Kilos> meetings are held right herew
[07:40] <Kilos> here as well
[07:40] <Kilos> next one is on the 24th
[07:41] <Padroni> oh ok
[07:41] <Padroni> cool
[07:41] <Padroni> I was scared being in CT, I will miss out as usual
[07:41] <Kilos> but you are welcome to stay online with us
[07:41] <Kilos> no man ct is full of ubuntu and linux users
[07:42] <Kilos> and there is nearly always someone online here
[07:42] <Padroni> cool
[07:42] <Padroni> I am working a 18 hour shift today
[07:42] <Padroni> So I will stick around
[07:43] <Kilos> cool
[07:43] <Kilos> tell us a bit about yourself
[07:43] <Padroni> oh well
[07:44] <Padroni> I work as a support engineer at a major webhosting company
[07:44] <Kilos> we have all kinds here. from dev guys to mechanics
[07:44] <Kilos> what company
[07:44] <Padroni> my focus is on security, so I deal with network abuse
[07:44] <Padroni> I'd rather not say
[07:44] <Kilos> great
[07:44] <Kilos> ok
[07:45] <Padroni> but I am also a Ubuntu fan and it's the only distro I use outside work
[07:45] <Kilos> wonderful
[07:45] <Padroni> at work we work with either cloudlinux or CentOS 
[07:45] <Kilos> great
[07:45] <Padroni> the latter is based on RHEL and I am not a big fan of that
[07:46] <Padroni>  did 5 Oracle certifications in 2013.  Oracle has their own Linux based on RHEL and it's shite
[07:47] <Padroni> what does 'official ubuntu membership' entail?
[07:47] <Padroni> seeing as you just got yours, you might be the best person to answer?
[07:47] <Kilos> sec i have the link somewhere
[07:48] <Kilos> oh i think its on our site
[07:48] <Kilos> http://ubuntu-za.org/getting-involved.html
[07:50] <superfly> Padroni: a web hosting company based in Durbanville, perhaps?
[07:50] <Padroni> I will go through the motions of that, later.
[07:50] <Padroni> Nope, Superfly
[07:51] <Kilos> ya lot of work and commitment
[07:51] <Padroni> how did you get to durbanville?
[07:51] <Kilos> you can join us though and be a ubuntu-za member
[07:51] <Jacques_Stry> haha, it's like holding a carrot for a donkey
[07:51] <superfly> Padroni: where are you based?
[07:52] <Padroni> Helderberg area
[07:52] <superfly> ah
[07:52] <Padroni> why Durbanville? How did you get to that address?
[07:52] <Padroni> if i may ask
[07:53] <superfly> There's a major web hosting company that is based in Durbanville.
[07:53] <Padroni> oh you are thinking of Hetzner
[07:53] <superfly> indeed
[07:53] <Padroni> sheesh.  not a fan of them
[07:54] <Padroni> professionally speaking in terms of having to deal with them
[07:54] <superfly> Padroni: don't say that too loudly in front of ThatGraemeGuy
[07:54] <Padroni> not dissing their hosting / service
[07:54] <Kilos> lol
[07:54] <superfly> :-P
[07:54] <Padroni> he a fan, or he work there?
[07:54] <superfly> he works there.
[07:54] <Padroni> oh
[07:54] <Jacques_Stry> >.<
[07:55] <Kilos> but we are all friends here even if we agree to disagree
[07:55] <Kilos> been years without a flame war
[07:55] <Padroni> haha
[07:55] <Padroni> I did NOT show up here to start one
[07:55] <stickyboy> Anyone use nodejs?
[07:56] <Padroni> So I'm gonna go right ahead and shut up now
[07:56] <stickyboy> Testing this node IRC client... http://shout-irc.com/
[07:56] <superfly> stickyboy: not volutarily
[07:56] <superfly> Padroni: hehe, don't worry about it
[07:56] <superfly> *voluntarily
[07:56] <superfly> eish
[07:56] <Padroni> anyone else have issues with Steam not working on 14.10?
[07:56] <Padroni> it loads but won't let me log in
[07:57] <superfly> worked fine the last time I used it at home, but that's Debian, not Ubuntu/Kubuntu
[07:58] <Padroni> i'm not the only one
[07:58] <Padroni> lots of people complain about that
[07:58] <Padroni> but can't figure out how to fix it
[07:58] <Jacques_Stry> I run steam on 3 machines with 14.10 - no problems so far
[07:58] <Padroni> So it's you?
[07:58] <Padroni> I heard someone got it right, but they forgot who
[07:58] <Padroni> :|
[07:59] <Kilos> lol
[07:59] <Jacques_Stry> So what problem you getting?
[07:59] <Padroni> I think I should choose a new nick and stick to it
[07:59] <Padroni> login screen is unresponsive
[08:00] <Padroni> like it's an image, not a functional box with buttons 
[08:00] <Padroni> click on it, nothing happens
[08:01]  * stickyboy doesn't play games
[08:01] <Jacques_Stry> Mine does it too while it authenticates, but usually only for like 3 sec's
[08:02] <Jacques_Stry> Could maybe be trouble connecting to the server - have you tried another connection?
[08:02] <Jacques_Stry> Or running it in terminal to check for errors?
[08:03] <stickyboy> Only bash and github
[08:03] <Padroni> meh
[08:03] <Padroni> I have given up
[08:03] <Padroni> installed / reinstalled so many times
[08:03] <Padroni> completely removed it, then reinstall
[08:03] <Padroni> same thing
[08:05] <Kilos> aw where is neelsie he lives on steam
[08:10] <Padroni> so Kilos
[08:10] <Padroni> tell me about yourself?
[08:10] <Kilos> yessir
[08:10] <Padroni> Oh Superfly - the company I work for is not based in my hometown
[08:10] <Padroni> I work remotely
[08:10] <superfly> ah
[08:10]  * Padroni obviously gets to drink at work
[08:11] <Jacques_Stry> haha
[08:11]  * superfly prefers not working remotely
[08:11] <Kilos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kilos#preview
[08:11]  * superfly still gets to drunk at work though :-P
[08:11] <superfly> *drink
[08:11] <superfly> I don't get drunk..
[08:11]  * Jacques_Stry thinks working remotely sounds lekka
[08:11]  * Padroni is a bit of a social handgrenade.  Better off alone
[08:12] <Kilos> Padroni  ^^
[08:12] <Kilos> thats me basically
[08:13] <Padroni> Kilos - coolest email addy ever!
[08:13] <Padroni> haha
[08:14] <Kilos> haha
[08:15] <Jacques_Stry> O.O well done
[08:15] <Padroni> meh
[08:15] <Padroni> that is already registered
[08:15] <Kilos> hard work finding a nick thats no already taken
[08:16] <Jacques_Stry> Superfly keeps giving me flashbacks of Joe Cartoon
[08:17] <superfly> I'm afraid I was around before Joe Cartoon
[08:17] <Trixar_za> Joe Cartoon?
[08:17] <Trixar_za> Don't I know who that is because I'm too old or too young?
[08:18] <Kilos> lol
[08:18] <Kilos> me too
[08:18] <Kilos> hi Trixar_za  
[08:18] <Trixar_za> Hey Kilos
[08:19] <Padroni> Joe Cartoon was legend in his time
[08:19] <Jacques_Stry> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYE3riHLptI
[08:19] <Padroni> hi Trixar_za 
[08:19] <Trixar_za> Hey Padroni
[08:20] <Trixar_za> Oh, superfly
[08:20] <superfly> Oh, Trixar_za
[08:20] <Trixar_za> I meant the cartoon - not the person here
[08:20] <Trixar_za> :P
[08:20] <superfly> haha
[08:21] <Kilos> i go take sheep to pastures
[08:23] <Padroni> anyone else in web hosting ?
[08:25] <superfly> nope
[08:25]  * superfly is a software/firmware developer
[08:25]  * Padroni stands impressed
[08:25] <Trixar_za> firmware developer
[08:26] <Trixar_za> That always makes my dirty mind giggle
[08:30]  * Jacques_Stry is a IT tech at a high school, +- 220 computers
[08:31] <Kilos> eina and all windows
[08:31] <Jacques_Stry> eina almost all yes...
[08:31] <Trixar_za> If you have students like I was, I really do feel sorry for you
[08:32] <Kilos> haha
[08:32] <Jacques_Stry> nope - system pretty advanced and secure
[08:32]  * Padroni has his finger on the delete button of about 35k websites
[08:32] <Jacques_Stry> kids can't do much
[08:33] <Trixar_za> I was the kid that got bored and wrote clients to abuse the network by sending a flood of notifications to other computers.
[08:33] <Trixar_za> Then I taught my friends how to do it
[08:33] <Padroni> ah
[08:33] <Padroni> the good old days of Win98
[08:33] <Padroni> And DoS'ing a pc till it crashes
[08:33] <Trixar_za> Yeah :)
[08:34] <Jacques_Stry> those commands disabled - I did it too when i was in school :)
[08:34] <Padroni> you gotta love them old half-duplex network cards that buffered out so quickly
[08:34] <Padroni> ISA cards, if I remember correctly
[08:34] <Jacques_Stry> >.<
[08:34] <Padroni> DOS was still DOS with Win98
[08:34] <Padroni> with XP they killed it
[08:35] <Trixar_za> I think back then the newest they ran was ME or 2000
[08:35] <Padroni> I used to DoS my boss a lot
[08:35] <Padroni> just to piss him off 
[08:36] <Jacques_Stry> If a learner irritates me I just disable his domain account and log him out of his pc...
[08:37] <Trixar_za> The teacher did later introduce remote desktop like capabilities
[08:37] <Trixar_za> then my one friend figured out how to reverse that on her.
[08:37] <Jacques_Stry> >.<
[08:37] <Trixar_za> And noticed she was posting to online dating sites
[08:39] <Padroni> ouch
[08:40] <Padroni> I am busy getting my launchpad on 
[08:40] <Jacques_Stry> Best quote i've seen in a while: A computer lets you make more mistakes faster than any invention in human history - with the possible exceptions of handguns and tequila.
[08:40] <Kilos> lol
[08:42] <Padroni> lol
[08:43]  * Trixar_za wonders what would happen if you mixed all three
[08:43]  * Padroni would probably end up shooting Win8 users...
[08:43] <Trixar_za> How about Windows 10?
[08:43] <Trixar_za> Slight bane of my existence
[08:44] <Padroni> i have a weird launchpad name ...
[08:44] <Jacques_Stry> Well looks a bit better than 8 but still probably gonna be a disaster
[08:44] <Padroni> i-inao-d
[08:44] <Padroni> what kind of name is that?
[08:45] <Kilos> lol
[08:45] <Kilos> it normally uses your email addy
[08:45] <Kilos> do you have a gmail account
[08:45] <Padroni> yes
[08:46] <Kilos> is it in your launchpad info thing
[08:46] <Padroni> nope
[08:46] <Padroni> i am working on my account
[08:46] <Padroni> will give the info when I am done
[08:46] <Padroni> changed it though
[08:48] <Trixar_za> Since I came up with the words Trixar and Trixarian, I've pretty much stuck with them.
[08:49] <Trixar_za> Apparently the word Trixar existed before I created it, but Trixarian didn't :P
[08:49] <Jacques_Stry> Love all these "you have 63 errors - scan windows now" adds when i'm on linux
[08:50] <Trixar_za> It's more fun when you do a Genuine check with WINE and it reports itself as a genuine windows install
[08:50] <Padroni> I have this neat little trick I do
[08:50] <Jacques_Stry> >.<
[08:50] <Padroni> do tech support guys in computer shops
[08:51] <Padroni> or rather, a specific, 'Incredible' computer shop 
[08:51] <Padroni> I walk past their displayed computers
[08:51] <Padroni> open CMD
[08:51] <Padroni> list accounts
[08:51] <Padroni> reset administrator password to something random
[08:51] <Padroni> delete guest account
[08:51] <Padroni> reboot
[08:51] <Padroni> all in about 7 seconds
[08:51] <Padroni> a hummingbird couldn't catch me on the job
[08:52] <Jacques_Stry> haha - shame
[08:52] <Padroni> they have learned to leave the computers logged OUT
[08:52] <Kilos> eish you are naughty
[08:52] <Padroni> else they need to format/reinstall the whole time
[08:52] <Padroni> yeah well my wife caught on to my little hate campaign and put a stop to it
[08:52] <Trixar_za> lol
[08:52] <Jacques_Stry> nah just use an exploit and remove password
[08:52] <Kilos> good girl
[08:52] <Padroni> she feels it's wrong
[08:52] <Trixar_za> I prefer the more passive route
[08:52] <Padroni> I maintain I am testing their skills 
[08:53] <Trixar_za> You know, booting with a liveCD and seeing how long it takes them to notice
[08:54] <Trixar_za> http://www.manucornet.net/pcjacking/
[08:59] <Jacques_Stry> So who's tried the 15.04 Alpha?
[09:00] <Padroni> not yet
[09:01] <Padroni> i'm still rocking 14.04
[09:01] <Padroni> I might upgrade my laptop to that version though
[09:01] <Padroni> is that the last version before Ubuntu goes commercial?
[09:02] <Padroni> apt-get dist-upgrade , yeah?
[09:05] <Padroni> you guys still here?
[09:05] <Kilos> yes
[09:05] <Padroni> Jacques_Stry, Trixar_za Kilos ?
[09:05] <Padroni> oh
[09:05] <Kilos> lol
[09:06] <Padroni> i have these small computers
[09:06] <Kilos> im just busy trying to get nikola working here
[09:06] <Kilos> getting there slowly
[09:06] <Padroni> and by small i mean both form factor and speed
[09:06] <Kilos> reading is hard work
[09:06] <Trixar_za> Generally not a good idea to upgrade a distro like that. It leads to some weird bugs :P
[09:06] <Padroni> micro itx formfactore, 2gb ram, 2.4ghz dual core chip
[09:06] <Padroni> put ubuntu 14.04 on 
[09:06] <Padroni> starts up with so many errros
[09:07] <Padroni> errors, sorry
[09:07] <Padroni> [dyslexia is fnu...]
[09:07] <Padroni> could it be the hardware can't run that version?
[09:07] <Padroni> maybe downgrade to an earlier version like 12.04 or so?
[09:08] <Trixar_za> Depends. Could be faulty RAM or the inclusion of memory checking (or not including it). I had a system like that.
[09:08] <Kilos> typos is not a criminal offence, so if you think peeps wont understand just retype the word with a * in front or do s/wrong word/right word
[09:08] <Padroni> thing is
[09:08] <Padroni> the errors are never the same
[09:08] <Padroni> and yet, sometimes it will boot up without any issues...
[09:08] <Trixar_za> Linux is way more picky about it's systems than Windows
[09:09] <Padroni> I don't wanna have another windoes machine on my network
[09:09] <Padroni> my wife and kids use it
[09:09] <Trixar_za> Also depends on the errors. Like some changes to the kernel yields weird, but not system breaking error messages
[09:09] <Padroni> so it has to be linux
[09:09] <Trixar_za> like the one about ACPI
[09:10] <Kilos> try running sudo touch /forcefsck and see if that repairs the errors
[09:10] <Padroni> yeah I didn't think of that...
[09:10] <Padroni> that will take decades...
[09:10] <Padroni> force file system check?
[09:10] <Kilos> it does it on reboot and fast
[09:10] <Padroni> maybe I must just get hold of some small SSD drives somewhere
[09:10] <Padroni> only need like 20Gb for what I use it for, anyway
[09:11] <Kilos> whew they arew costly
[09:11] <Kilos> are
[09:11] <Padroni> i know
[09:11] <Padroni> my laptop has one
[09:11] <Padroni> boots in 7 seconds from dead to login
[09:12] <Padroni> they are very fast, which makes them worth it
[09:12] <Kilos> ya for lappies they are good i think
[09:13] <Kilos> not hot for desktops unless you have a good ups
[09:14] <Kilos> Maaz  coffee on
[09:14]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[09:14] <Kilos> Maaz  coffee for all
[09:14] <Maaz> Come on ya buncha geeks. Rock up with your mugs with the correct amount of sugar added already
[09:15] <Symmetria> goddamn those 6TB disks are fast
[09:16] <Kilos> hmm...
[09:17] <Kilos> oh only monday. me waits some
[09:18] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[09:18] <Kilos> Maaz  danke
[09:18] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[09:22] <Padroni> speaking of which
[09:22] <Padroni> time to make some coffe
[09:22] <Padroni> e
[09:26] <Jacques_Stry> What remote desktop software can I use in unity - VNC doesn't and Teamviewer is super slow
[09:26] <Padroni> good question
[09:26] <Padroni> also, I have found that Teamviewer on linux refuses to connect to Teamviewer on Windows
[09:27] <Jacques_Stry> Mine works perfectly - use it every day? Maybe a previous version bug?
[09:27] <Padroni> meh
[09:28] <Padroni> lots of stuff I still need to figure out
[09:28] <Trixar_za> or maybe you're using the beta on the one and the stable on the other
[09:28] <Trixar_za> they also refuse to work together >.>
[09:28] <Padroni> maybe I should do that Linux+ course on cybrary.it
[09:28] <Kilos> hmm... used something before
[09:28] <Jacques_Stry> Maybe - i'm using version 10 on both
[09:29] <Padroni> i have version 9 on ubuntu
[09:29] <Padroni> lemme upgrade it
[09:29] <Kilos> putty and another one
[09:30] <Jacques_Stry> usually if I connect to Windows machines I just use RDC and Remmina
[09:31] <Kilos> remmina i think it was
[09:31] <Kilos> worked like a charm
[09:31] <Padroni> brb
[09:34] <Jacques_Stry> But have some you managed to connect to an ubuntu 14.10 machine with VNC while running unity?
[09:34] <Jacques_Stry> Don't think it's supported yet
[09:35] <Jacques_Stry> And don't want to change my desktop environment.
[09:35] <Padroni> so there is a definite need for a proper RDC client in Ubuntu?
[09:36] <Kilos> remmina works they just have to tick allow
[09:36] <Jacques_Stry> so you just can't log in unattended yet?
[09:36] <Kilos> and give that password maybe then you have full control of the win pc
[09:38] <Padroni> Well
[09:38] <Padroni> I can identify
[09:38] <Padroni> just can't verify
[09:38] <Padroni> used wrong email
[09:38] <Kilos> ai!
[09:38] <Jacques_Stry> I just want to log in Linux - Linux with gui - sometimes some stuff I just want to not do in ssh
[09:40] <Padroni> I used to IRC a lot years back
[09:40] <Padroni> practically lived on IRC
[09:41] <Padroni> but life forced me to make real friends
[09:41] <Padroni> Now I am married.
[09:41] <Kilos> lol
[09:41] <Padroni> happy ending, I guess
[09:44] <Jacques_Stry> Must say I'm impressed with how linux support has improved last few years - these days I can allways do what I want and much easier and faster at that!
[09:44] <Jacques_Stry> *always
[09:48] <Padroni> eh...
[09:48] <Padroni> anyone know anything of kickass torrents being down?
[09:48] <Padroni> seems kickass.so is having DNS issues
[09:49] <superfly> Jacques_Stry: have you looked at (not open source, but free) TeamViewer or NoMachine?
[09:52] <Padroni>  I read this article, and it scared the crap out of me
[09:52] <Padroni> it related so how we are surveiled while on the internet
[09:52] <Padroni> https://ind.ie/the-camera-panopticon/
[09:56] <inetpro> good evening
[09:56] <inetpro> oops... did I say evening?
[09:56] <Kilos> lo inetpro  
[09:56] <inetpro> oh hi Kilos as well
[09:56] <Kilos> lol
[09:57] <Kilos> have they got a drive for you inetpro  ?
[09:57] <inetpro> you guys are too busy here
[09:57] <inetpro> Kilos: I'll get that sorted, no worries
[09:57] <Kilos> its done on purpose so you can brush up your reading skills
[09:57] <inetpro> ai!
[09:57] <Kilos> rofl
[09:58] <Kilos> we know you are nosy so will want to see what was said
[10:04] <Padroni> you know
[10:04] <Padroni> I started a Tumblr blog so that I can add solutions to problems I encounter
[10:04] <Padroni> but it's such a mission to search for, and find, the damn stuff
[10:05] <Kilos> wow you sound like me
[10:05] <Kilos> are you old?
[10:07] <Padroni> almost 40
[10:07] <Padroni> but i shared too many pics of fighter planes
[10:07] <Padroni> now my actual stuff is lost in the mix
[10:08] <Kilos> lol
[10:08] <Padroni> This one kills:
[10:08] <Padroni> http://33.media.tumblr.com/2bfea24f24c99cf30cace72aa64fd1a0/tumblr_mp638rAZhk1svlgeso1_250.gif
[10:09] <Jacques_Stry> >.<
[10:13] <Kilos> sien die nuwe mense inetpro  
[10:13] <Kilos> kom nader aan 50
[10:33] <Padroni> ugh
[10:33] <Kilos> you choking?
[10:34] <Padroni> PDO::__construct(): Server requested authentication method unknown to the client [mysql_old_password]
[10:35] <Padroni> i write the solutions for these on my tumblr and somehow loose it
[10:35]  * Padroni gets frustrated with Padroni
[10:36] <Kilos> lol
[10:36] <Kilos> old age
[10:36] <Padroni> don't joke
[10:36] <Padroni> anyone here brew their own beer?
[10:36] <Padroni> as a matter of interest?
[10:37] <Jacques_Stry> http://stackoverflow.com/a/1340538/187954 try this?
[10:37] <Padroni> meh
[10:37] <Padroni> told client to recreate his DB user
[10:38] <Padroni> or at least reset the password
[10:38] <Padroni> that should fix it
[10:38] <Jacques_Stry> Should work - will probably update his password to 41-byte system
[10:38] <Padroni> yup
[10:38] <Padroni> I have no sympathy for outdated CMS / scripts
[10:39] <Jacques_Stry> :)
[10:39]  * highvoltage has brewed 1 batch of beer and thinking of doing it again when winter comes
[10:40] <Padroni> I am thinking of building a small cold room to brew in
[10:40] <Padroni> my first batch brewed at 24 degrees which is way too hot
[10:40] <Padroni> I am now too scared to drink it
[10:40] <Kilos> lol
[10:40] <Padroni> So methinks I gotta build something to keep the temp low and constant
[10:41] <highvoltage> yep, I did mine last summer and it was 28-30 outside. so I had to keep my fermenter in the tub with some ice to keep it cool
[10:42] <Padroni> same here
[10:42] <Padroni> tub of ice
[10:42] <Padroni> did you do it from scratch or out of those mangrovejack kits?
[10:42] <Padroni> I got the kit so did the canned one first
[10:42] <Padroni> Munich Lager
[10:42] <Padroni> Too scared to drink it though...
[10:42] <highvoltage> partial mash via beerschool - http://www.beerlab.co.za/pages/beerschool
[10:44] <Padroni> ah nice
[10:44] <Padroni> i still wanna go on one of those
[10:44] <Padroni> you in CT area?
[10:44] <inetpro> ai!
[10:45] <inetpro> Kilos: now you even woke up the brewers, how you do that?
[10:45] <Kilos> wat nou inetpro  ?
[10:45] <Kilos> lol
[10:45] <Kilos> was just going to give them advice too
[10:45] <Kilos> you stopped me in time
[10:45] <highvoltage> Padroni: yep
[10:46] <Padroni> jeez
[10:46] <Padroni> R820 for a class is very expensive
[10:47] <highvoltage> I didn't think so, it's half a day and you get 20l of beer out of it
[10:47] <Padroni> you can do it at RedSky Brew for R200 pp for the same length class
[10:47] <Padroni> only thing is, you need to be 4 people to book
[10:48] <highvoltage> you can do beerschool in teams too
[10:48] <highvoltage> and 820/4 isn't far off from R200
[10:49] <Padroni> ah...
[10:49] <Padroni> so it's price per team
[10:49] <Padroni> that makes sense
[11:01] <Kilos> wb Squirm-  
[11:15] <Kilos> sjoe inetpro  wasnt the bazaar tutorial on our site?
[11:17] <Padroni> we have a bumper crop of passion fruit / grenadilla this year.
[11:17] <inetpro> Kilos: see https://ubuntu-za.org/getting-involved.html
[11:17] <Padroni> I think I need to figure out how to make beer from it.
[11:17] <Kilos> thats where i am
[11:17] <inetpro> RTF
[11:18] <inetpro> oops... RTFS as well
[11:18] <Kilos> lol i used to see it but now cant find it
[11:19] <Kilos> can you see it inetpro  ?
[11:20] <Kilos> methinks the fly stole it from my opera
[11:21] <Kilos> hi deegee  wb
[11:21] <Kilos> whats davey up to today
[11:23] <Padroni> hi deegee 
[11:23]  * Padroni is new here
[11:27] <Kilos> haha
[11:28] <Kilos> i wonder if he has time to answer drussle greetings today
[11:37] <Kilos> inetpro  nm i found i had saved the tutorial as well
[11:38] <Kilos> but under a doof name
[11:38] <Kilos> doff as well
[11:39] <Padroni> what tutorial is that, may I ask?
[11:40] <Kilos> bazaar
[11:44] <inetpro> Kilos: "You can even be involved in our web site! Branch it on Launchpad and propose your changes. Check out our Bazaar tutorial for how to get started using Bazaar and Launchpad."
[11:44] <inetpro> Branch it on Launchpad https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-za
[11:44] <inetpro> Bazaar tutorial https://ubuntu-za.org/bazaar-tutorial.html
[11:45] <Kilos> branch what actually the africa site?
[11:45] <inetpro> Padroni: ^^
[11:45] <inetpro> Kilos: ai!
[11:45] <Padroni> busy reading it
[11:46] <Kilos> inetpro  im trying to see if i can create a site
[11:46] <Padroni> never used bazaar before
[11:46] <Padroni> I code oldschool
[11:46] <Kilos> never too old to learn something new
[11:46] <Kilos> only i am
[11:47] <Kilos> inetpro  if i could just clone our site i would
[11:48] <Kilos> thats actually an idea, nikola can do that after some changes have been made methinks
[11:49] <Kilos> so its bazaar to make changes and nikola do implement them right?
[11:49] <inetpro> Kilos: RTFS
[11:49] <Kilos> im gonna hit you
[11:50] <inetpro> ask Maaz for the meaning
[11:50] <Kilos> i know the meaning
[11:50] <inetpro> :-)
[11:50] <inetpro> it's all there
[11:50] <Kilos> thats why im gonna hit you
[11:50] <inetpro> very well documented by superfly
[11:51] <Kilos> oh now i see what you mean with the branch things
[11:52] <inetpro> for the Nikola part you also RTFS with S = source
[11:52] <Kilos> lol
[11:53] <Kilos> sjoe jou pak kom naby
[11:53] <inetpro> ai!
[11:54] <inetpro> they should actually have a man page for rtfs
[11:54] <inetpro> then I could just say man rtfs
[11:54] <Padroni> each time I find a uploads folder with CHMOD777 I want to kick a client's teeth in...
[11:54] <Kilos> Padroni  the pro is a pain at times because he does his best to force you to work out what you need to do and only when he sees that you are totally lost does he then step in and with the patience of job help you
[11:55] <inetpro> Maaz: Padroni +1
[11:55] <Maaz> inetpro: What?
[11:55] <inetpro> Maaz: +1 Padroni 
[11:55] <Maaz> inetpro: What?
[11:55] <inetpro> ai!
[11:55] <Kilos> hahah ++
[11:56] <Kilos> oh thats the karma thing
[11:56] <Padroni> eh... what is happening?
[11:56] <Padroni> I got the greenlight today to change my pentest server from ubuntu to kali, today
[11:56]  * Padroni will be hacking more intensively now
[11:56] <superfly> Maaz: Padroni++ [ totally ]
[11:56] <Padroni> I see I used 'today' twice.  Someone, slap me.
[11:57] <inetpro> thank you superfly
[11:57] <inetpro> exactly that!
[11:57] <Padroni> what is this + thing?
[11:57] <inetpro> Maaz: karmaladder
[11:57] <Maaz> inetpro: 0: superfly (25), 1: cocooncrash (19), 2: tumbleweed (16), 3: maiatoday (12), 4: drubin (10), 5: Kilos (9), 6: Vhata (8), 7: morgs (8), 8: highvoltage (7), 9: confluency (6), 10: inetpro (5), 11: kbmonkey (4), 12: nuvolari (3), 13: Symmetria (3), 14: ubuntu-za (2), 15: russell (2), 16: |3o|3 (2), 17: yusuf (2), 18: nlsthzn (2), 19: queery (2), 20: maverick
[11:57] <Maaz> (2), 21: magespawn (2), 22: sars (1), 23: youtube-dl (1), 24: ScorpKing (1), 25: Web Afr…
[11:58] <Padroni> I am not there
[11:58] <Kilos> well duh
[11:58] <Padroni> Must. Try. Harder.
[11:58] <Kilos> you gotta do stuff first
[11:58] <Padroni> i figured as much
[11:59] <Kilos> lol here you earn everything with blood sweat and tears
[11:59] <Kilos> i was given stuff to shut me up
[11:59] <Padroni> lol
[12:06] <Kilos> hi clr  
[12:06] <clr> which vdsl router should I buy?  I can only get 2mbps ADSL but soon (when they connect power to the VDSL) I will have 20mbps
[12:06] <clr> Hi Kilos
[12:07] <clr> Any suggestions welcome
[12:07] <Kilos> just wait someone will say something]
[12:10] <Padroni> :(
[12:10] <Padroni> I would kill for 20mb adsl
[12:10] <Kilos> some are busy and some are just acting busy
[12:10] <Padroni> only we are out in the sticks
[12:10]  * Padroni is working on removing a soaksoak backdoor
[12:10]  * Kilos working on supper
[12:11] <Kilos> spaghetti bolognaise if we lucky
[12:11] <Padroni> pasta surprise if we  are not?
[12:11] <Padroni> lol
[12:11] <Kilos> lol
[12:19] <Padroni> http://www.techworm.net/2015/02/linux-used-build-us-navys-powerful-destroyer-yet.html
[12:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> http://mybroadband.co.za/news/smartphones/118461-aquaris-e4-5-the-first-ubuntu-phone.html
[12:22] <Padroni> I saw that.
[12:22] <Kilos> wow pricey hey
[12:22] <Padroni> 189 euros though
[12:23] <Padroni> my sister refuses to buy me one
[12:23] <Kilos> lol
[12:23] <Padroni> I am left with trying to install it on a iphone 4 
[12:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: I think you're a bit out of touch with the pricing of smartphones
[12:24] <Kilos> oh are others more expensive
[12:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> mostly yes
[12:24] <Kilos> wow
[12:24] <Padroni> It is more expensive than she is willing to pay 
[12:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> especially dual-sim versions where they exist
[12:24] <Padroni> without getting paid back
[12:24] <Padroni> ie, a gift
[12:24] <Padroni> I have two iPhones.  I have no illusion as to what smartphones go for
[12:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> http://store.orange.com/za/mobile-phones/sim-free-phones/sony-xperia-z3-compact-black-265532/ Kilos that's a pretty mid-range phone
[12:25] <Padroni> I just can't convince her to buy me that ubuntu phone 
[12:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> that ubuntu phone certainly isn't up there with the flagships spec-wise, but its a solid spec at a pretty respectable price
[12:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> the biggest challenge will be getting quality apps quickly enough
[12:26] <Kilos> and maybe easier to use than android things
[12:26] <Kilos> for me anyway
[12:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> i know i'm not going to switch to a different mobile platform without at least some of the more popular apps being avaiable
[12:27] <Kilos> as soon as they start selling demand for apps will move things up
[12:27] <Kilos> speedwise
[12:29] <Padroni> look at this
[12:29] <Padroni> https://www.zestmobile.net/
[12:29] <Padroni> developed in africa
[12:29] <Padroni> or locally
[12:29] <ThatGraemeGuy> with build quality and customer service to match
[12:29] <ThatGraemeGuy> sadly
[12:29] <ThatGraemeGuy> I so wanted that phone to be awesome
[12:31] <Padroni> ThatGraemeGuy, can I pm you?
[12:33] <Padroni> ?
[12:33] <Jacques_Stry> would love a one plus one..
[12:41] <Padroni> For R600 more, I will rather go for the 64GB one
[12:47] <superfly> Jacques_Stry: oh yes...
[12:56] <Kilos> sjoe now where did that copy of the branch go
[13:01] <Kilos> farming so much easier, you cut a branch and you can see where it falls
[13:02] <Jacques_Stry> lol
[13:04] <Padroni> bbl
[14:00] <Kilos> inetpro  superfly  kyk hoe groei daai kanaal
[14:00] <Kilos> maybe i should start charging tickets
[14:01] <Kilos> only 11 more to go here
[14:01] <Kilos> woohhooo
[14:37] <Kilos> i see the log thing is there
[14:38] <inetpro> oh wow!
[14:38] <Kilos> woooot
[14:40] <inetpro> well done Kilos
[14:40] <Kilos> ty sir
[14:43] <charl> good afternoon
[14:43] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[14:43]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[14:44] <Kilos> hi charl  
[14:44] <charl> hi Kilos 
[14:44] <Kilos> no time for coffee
[14:44] <charl> what happened?
[14:45] <Kilos> you dont know?
[14:45] <Kilos> where you been
[14:45] <inetpro> charl: /whois Kilos
[14:45] <inetpro> this guy is making waves now
[14:46] <charl> oh you got ubuntu membership Kilos !
[14:46] <charl> congratulations
[14:46] <charl> you deserved it imho
[14:46] <Kilos> haha ty it means so much work but learning slowly what to do
[14:46] <charl> good, good
[14:46] <Kilos> no man thats not it
[14:47] <Kilos> big plans
[14:47] <charl> eh ok :)
[14:47] <Kilos> http://slexy.org/view/s2RNrWvZLY
[14:47] <charl> reading
[14:47] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl!
[14:48] <charl> Maaz: danke
[14:48] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[14:48] <charl> Kilos: it sounds like an interesting idea, i guess in a continent like africa that makes sense
[14:48] <Kilos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AfricanTeams
[14:48] <Kilos> we are 10 locos connected on #ubuntu-africa
[14:48] <charl> hmmm most of those countries don't even have contact people listed
[14:49] <Kilos> 10 to go
[14:49] <Kilos> im busy waiking them up
[14:49] <charl> ah i see they have status "missing"
[14:49] <charl> only three approved teams :(
[14:50] <Kilos> yip changed ethiopia status this morning
[14:50] <charl> interesting
[14:50] <charl> well good luck with that :)
[14:50] <Kilos> the locos have basically died out except for here and there peeps still going
[14:50] <Kilos> ty
[14:51] <Kilos> methinks the way things are going one makes ones own luck
[14:51] <Kilos> dont ever give up
[14:52] <Kilos> some of them are excited by the idea and are now helping
[14:52] <Kilos> and canonical seems happy with the idea so far
[14:53] <Kilos> so im happy but poegaai
[14:54] <charl> well let me put it to you this way
[14:54] <charl> considering that most countries do not have the traction to do anything on their own
[14:55] <charl> it would be better to join forces and work together as far as possible
[14:55] <charl> i used to be but i haven't really been active in any user groups of late
[14:56] <charl> outside of coming here for coffee every now and then
[14:56] <charl> :)
[14:56] <charl> these days it is so easy to get help online, especially with sites like the stack exchange network
[14:56] <Kilos> lol
[14:56] <charl> 15 years ago when i started using gnu/linux it was a mess to get help/support/advice or whatever
[14:57] <charl> these days you just google and get a bunch of answers for almost any problem
[14:57] <Kilos> you were somewhere in africa at one time, where was that
[14:57] <charl> south africa, botswana and kenya
[14:57] <Kilos> ai! other peeps maybe, when i google for help i mess up my pc and the guys have to help me fix it
[14:58] <charl> i have been to one or two other countries but haven't really spent any time there
[14:58] <Kilos> i have kenya peeps
[14:58] <Kilos> have you got contacts in botswana
[14:58] <charl> unfortunately not, that was some time ago
[14:58] <Kilos> its ok ill find them
[14:59] <Kilos> got quite a few peeps working on it
[14:59] <Kilos> east africa should be connected soon
[14:59] <charl> botswana is a very small country, there are not many ICT people there
[14:59] <charl> the few that are practically run everything
[15:00] <charl> most of the country is basically desert
[15:00] <Kilos> those are the ones i want to connect with
[15:00] <charl> sorry to say but they almost act like a mafia
[15:00] <Kilos> mostly there are lugs running everything it
[15:00] <charl> i was not very impressed with the way things are going there (back then)
[15:00] <Kilos> thats fine ill convert them
[15:00] <charl> it is extremely difficult to get a visa to botswana so the few that have it run the place
[15:01] <Kilos> lol
[15:01] <charl> maybe things have changed, i have no idea
[15:01] <Kilos> ill find one or 2 reasonable guys
[15:01] <charl> botswana has diamond money but the average botswana person lives like trash
[15:01] <charl> only the elites have it well
[15:01] <Kilos> i just need one per country for now
[15:01] <charl> well i think if you ask around eventually you might get in contact with some people
[15:02] <charl> back then the whole country had less than 10mbps of internet bandwidth
[15:02] <Kilos> 2 weeks oago i had a blank page
[15:02] <charl> most of it was through satellite or through south africa
[15:02] <Kilos> now 10 locos
[15:02] <Kilos> some that were dead
[15:02] <charl> well at least you are making good progress there
[15:03] <Kilos> and note the number of nicks here
[15:03] <charl> heh i can remember the electricity used to be so bad that a PSU would blow in 6 months unless you run behind a UPS
[15:03] <charl> you could even run a UPS with a dead battery just so that it acts like a voltage regulator
[15:03] <Kilos> meeting night we gonna go over 50 im sure
[15:04] <charl> all types of memories coming back now :)
[15:04] <charl> there were some nice things of botswana too
[15:04] <Kilos> lol
[15:04] <charl> seswaa
[15:04] <charl> shredded meat
[15:04] <charl> delicious
[15:04] <charl> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seswaa
[15:05] <Kilos> i actually have some friends that went farming there but not it guys so dont know how to contact them;
[15:05] <charl> Seswaa is a traditional meat dish of Botswana, made of beef, goat or lamb meat.[1] The fatty meat is generally boiled until tender in any pot, with "just enough salt,"[2] and shredded or pounded.[3] It is often served with pap (maize meal) or sorghum meal porridge.[4][5]
[15:06] <Kilos> send some cool weather man
[15:06] <charl> Kilos: btw you said you were in contact with kenyans?
[15:06] <charl> who if i may ask ?
[15:06] <charl> i might know one or two
[15:06] <charl> lots of ict people in kenya
[15:06] <Kilos> look at #nairobilug
[15:07] <Kilos> only 3 ubuntu so far
[15:07] <Kilos> many arch and fedora guys
[15:07] <charl> no familiar names
[15:07] <charl> nicks i mean
[15:07] <charl> other than people from here
[15:07] <charl> kenya is awesome country
[15:08] <charl> loved nairobi
[15:08] <Kilos> hi edwardvk  welcome to ubuntu-za
[15:08] <Kilos> hi TinuvaMac  
[15:13] <Kilos> hmm...
[15:16] <edwardvk> I haven't been on IRC in years. On XChat what does it mean if the line is red?
[15:17] <Kilos> its from someone else isnt it
[15:17] <Kilos> or highlighted message
[15:18] <edwardvk> It is. Thanks.
[15:19] <Kilos> i havent used xchat for a while
[15:19] <edwardvk> So what's the recommended client for Ubuntu?
[15:20] <inetpro> edwardvk: this line is red?
[15:20] <edwardvk> It is.
[15:20] <inetpro> that is because I put your nickname in the line
[15:20] <Kilos> xchat is fine if you on ubuntu
[15:20] <edwardvk> This is the ubuntu-za channel afterall.
[15:21] <edwardvk> Surely using Ubuntu is mandatory here. 
[15:21] <Kilos> ya but im on kubuntu and use konversation 
[15:21] <edwardvk> Oh I see.
[15:21] <Kilos> nope we have many different linux users here
[15:21] <Kilos> some on arch and fedora etc
[15:22] <edwardvk> How exotic.
[15:22] <Kilos> yeah we welcome all linux users
[15:23] <Kilos> i go lockup sheep
[15:23] <Kilos> inetpro  who is jojo
[15:26] <Kilos> can only be highvoltage  hey
[15:27] <charl> almost home time for me
[15:27] <charl> have a good evening all !
[15:27] <Kilos> cheers charl  
[15:27] <charl> and congrats again on your membership Kilos that's awesome :)
[15:27] <charl> you really do deserve it :)
[15:27] <Kilos> ty charl  
[15:27] <charl> ciao
[15:27] <Kilos> chow now
[15:33] <Padroni> Hello
[15:33] <Kilos> wb Padroni  
[15:33] <Padroni> Thanx
[15:33] <Padroni> part 2 of my 18 hours shift just started
[15:33] <Padroni> meh
[15:33] <Kilos> Padroni  means father right
[15:33] <Padroni> I have no idea
[15:33] <Kilos> haha
[15:33] <Kilos> italian i think
[15:33] <Padroni> think it means something like 'the masters' in italian
[15:33] <Kilos> ah
[15:33] <Padroni> it was just a silly name I used in online gaming
[15:34] <Padroni> traded my old  nick "Heidi_se_hond" for "Padroni"
[15:34] <Kilos> lol
[15:35] <Padroni> So
[15:35] <Padroni> I play Warthunder
[15:35] <Padroni> a game which at this point is available only on Windoze
[15:35] <Padroni> hence me being on a Win7 box atm
[15:35] <Kilos> shame
[15:37] <Kilos> no matter, we know you now
[15:38] <Padroni> haha
[15:38] <Kilos> being connected is more imprtant that what OS you are using
[15:38] <Padroni> hey - at least I admit to having a winbox
[15:38] <Padroni> or rather, using one
[15:39] <Kilos> lol we have other guys that do it at work as well
[15:40] <Padroni> Our company actually kinda force us to use Mac
[15:40] <Padroni> I kinda refuse - it's a crap OS to work on.
[15:41] <Kilos> i mtried elementaryos which has a mac look to it i have been told
[15:42] <Kilos> but based on 12.04, was nice and nippy and one can get used to the dock thing
[15:42] <Padroni> I tried it to
[15:42] <Padroni> had issues with the package manager
[15:42] <Padroni> but it's pretty though
[15:42] <Kilos> mine ran great
[15:50] <Padroni> ok
[15:50] <Padroni> well at least that wasn't weird...
[15:50] <Padroni> my network just kinda crashed
[15:50] <Kilos> lol
[15:53] <Padroni> www.warthunder.com
[15:53] <Padroni> best war game ever
[15:53] <Padroni> EVER
[15:53] <Padroni> EVA!!!
[15:56] <edwardvk> I keep reading it at wart-hunder. Some sort of medical-vet game about chicken warts.
[15:57] <Kilos> lol
[15:58] <Padroni> dude no...
[15:58] <Padroni> lol
[15:59] <Padroni> that game is the reason I still keep windows around
[15:59] <Kilos> i also have 2 drives with windows on
[16:00] <Kilos> xp becaause thats where most bios tools are and 7 so i can know what its about
[16:05] <Kilos> only games i can still find time to play is freecell and mahjongg
[16:06] <Padroni> got the nick sorted
[16:06] <Padroni> thanx kilos
[16:06] <Kilos> yw
[16:10] <Kilos> you might need to restart client and also enter password where you choose channels so it cloaks before joining channels
[16:11] <Padroni> still waiting for my cloak
[16:11] <Kilos> ah
[16:16] <Padroni> I cannnot even remember how many times I had to remove a blocked ip from one of our firewalls today
[16:16] <Padroni> but
[16:17] <Padroni> it still beats the same amount of broken mail accounts hands down
[16:17] <Padroni> I hate having to answer calls about email
[16:17] <Padroni> luckily today is my last day of taking support calls
[16:17] <Padroni> as of Wed I only take calls about network abuse
[16:19] <Kilos> lol
[16:35] <Padroni> so kilo
[16:35] <Padroni> Kilos, sorry
[16:35] <Padroni> where are you from?
[16:35] <Kilos> prewtoria and amanzimtoti
[16:36] <Kilos> pta now
[16:36] <Padroni> oh ok
[16:36] <Padroni> I'm in CT
[16:36] <Padroni> was gonna be in PTA on Fri for a court case
[16:36] <Padroni> but looks like I don't have to anymore
[16:36] <Kilos> long ride
[16:36] <Padroni> short flight though
[16:37] <Padroni> on state expense, I might add
[16:37] <Kilos> expensive
[16:37] <Kilos> better things to do with so much money
[16:37] <Kilos> oh thats cool
[16:37] <Padroni> they want me as an expert witness
[16:37] <Padroni> they pay my fare
[16:37] <Padroni> no way I am getting there on my own purse
[16:37] <Kilos> thats good then
[16:40] <magespawn> good evening
[16:40] <Kilos> hi my magespawn  
[16:41] <magespawn> Kilos inetpro i take it from what i read on the ubuntu-za trello board that i should also apply for ubuntu membership
[16:41] <Kilos> well duh!
[16:41] <magespawn> ahh right
[16:41] <Kilos> hahaha
[16:42] <magespawn> i don't thin i really qualify
[16:42] <magespawn> s/thin/think
[16:42] <Kilos> well we can always help by making you do more
[16:43] <Kilos> climb in on the bandwagon of my project
[16:43] <magespawn> well that i don't mind, but what exactly/
[16:43] <Kilos> lol learn nokola and bzr
[16:44] <Kilos> and join #ubuntu-africa
[16:44] <Kilos> nikola
[16:44] <Kilos> im busy working my way through nikola atm
[16:45] <Kilos> actually you and pro should do it
[16:45] <Kilos> make a good team
[16:46] <magespawn> okay, what exactly are you trying to do?
[16:46] <inetpro> haha 
[16:46] <Kilos> build a website for ubuntu-africa
[16:47] <Kilos> see you okes pushing me all the time has turned me into a delegate
[16:48] <inetpro> magespawn, just stay focused on sticking around here and help us move forward and you definitely will qualify 
[16:48] <Kilos> magespawn  note number of nicks here
[16:48] <magespawn> nikola is not too bad, the restructured quick start explains a lot of how it works
[16:49] <Kilos> i am trying to use the za site as a template that will need minimal work to change to a africa site
[16:49] <inetpro> patience Kilos 
[16:49] <Kilos> ive asked the council if they will supply a domain but no answer yet
[16:51] <Kilos> maybe im in the wrong channel there too
[16:51] <Kilos> hmm...
[16:51] <Kilos> maybe must be in a council
[16:52] <Kilos> i hear thunder so if i go its power
[16:54] <Padroni> what is the URL for the ubuntu-africa domain?
[16:54] <magespawn> it is growing Kilos 
[16:55] <Kilos> there is no domain yet Padroni  
[16:55] <Kilos> still working towards it
[16:55] <Kilos> you got free domain names?
[16:56] <Kilos> yip magespawn  growing lekker
[16:56] <Kilos> and soon hopefully the whole of east africa will join
[16:59] <Kilos> i go  eat
[17:00] <magespawn> cool
[17:00] <Padroni> hi magespawn
[17:00]  * Padroni is new here. Joined today.
[17:06] <Kilos> Padroni  magespawn  is in hluhluwe
[17:06] <Kilos> bit of a wireless expert already
[17:06] <Kilos> got a whole game park working wirelessly
[17:06] <magespawn> hi Padroni 
[17:07] <Padroni> Hi magespawn
[17:07] <Padroni> Still got 7 hours to go on this shift, and I am already 4 beers in
[17:07]  * Padroni see a long night ahead...
[17:08] <magespawn> Padroni: what are you doing?
[17:08] <Padroni> I am at work?
[17:09] <magespawn> i guessed that, but what is work?
[17:09] <Padroni> oh
[17:09] <Padroni> I drive the rush-hour shift trains for metrorail
[17:10] <Padroni> hehe - just kidding
[17:10] <magespawn> hah nearly had me there
[17:10] <Padroni> I'm a support engineer at a hosting company
[17:10] <Padroni> I am head of the Abuse department, so I investigate fraud / phishing sites / etc as well as pentest / hack  and look for and remove backdoors, etc
[17:10] <Padroni> you know - the usual.
[17:11] <magespawn> ineed, what else, but the usual
[17:11] <Padroni> and you?
[17:11] <magespawn> it 'manager' for a small group of hotels 
[17:12] <magespawn> i say 'manager' because there is really only me
[17:12] <Padroni> ah
[17:12] <Padroni> sounds interesting though?
[17:12] <Padroni> unless you have to work with people.
[17:12] <Padroni> that I am not fond of
[17:13] <magespawn> keeps me busy that is for sure
[17:13]  * Padroni is a social handgrenade and bound to say something outside of protocol at some point 
[17:13] <magespawn> i do a fair amount of people work but i don't mind that
[17:13] <Padroni> I do.
[17:13] <magespawn> i always seem to be doing that
[17:13] <Padroni> I find myself spending too much time explaining shit to people
[17:14] <Padroni> it frustrates me
[17:14] <Padroni> I prefer my servers.
[17:16] <magespawn> i think that is inevitable when you go far enough down a path
[17:17] <Kilos> lol
[17:18] <Padroni> I suppose you are right
[17:21] <Padroni> how many web dev's we got working on the site?
[17:21] <Kilos> none yet
[17:21] <Kilos> the only thing i can dev is headaches
[17:21] <magespawn> i have been stuggling lately with one the domains i am in charge of, keeps getting hacked etc, and has been taken offline for phishing etc
[17:21] <Padroni> oh
[17:22] <Padroni> you need help with that, magespawn?
[17:22] <Padroni> un-hacking websites are kinda my specialty
[17:22] <Padroni> pm me
[17:22] <magespawn> i just wish i could pinpoint how they are getting in
[17:23] <Padroni> the offer stands: pm me
[17:24] <magespawn> just have
[17:24] <magespawn> i think
[17:25] <Kilos> good luck guys
[17:34] <Padroni> my supper is making me cry
[17:35] <Padroni> I added too much chili
[17:35] <Kilos> lol never too much chilli
[17:35] <Padroni> *chilli
[18:03] <Kilos> so magespawn  Padroni  are you winning
[18:03] <magespawn> so far
[18:04] <Kilos> yay
[18:08] <Padroni> these yanks are such fags in online games
[18:09] <Padroni> kick you if you kill them too much
[18:09] <Padroni> #wankers
[18:09] <Padroni> I always get kick/banned from their servers
[18:10] <Padroni> and I am not abusive or anything
[18:10] <Padroni> i just play
[18:10] <Padroni> hard
[18:10] <Padroni> I don't even talk to them
[18:11] <Kilos> thats why i would only play games like ra up to 3 and aoe to 3
[18:11] <Kilos> those that want to go play online i wouldnt try even if i had uncapped
[18:12] <Kilos> half your time you are playing with children
[18:12] <Kilos> how can you expect responsible actions
[18:16] <magespawn> ty Padroni, that will help a lot
[18:16] <magespawn> brb just putting kid to bed
[18:17] <superfly> Padroni: since you are a self-confessed social hand grenade, can I recommend you read the Ubuntu Code of Conduct? This channel is governed by it, and we'd hate to lose you to something that could easily be prevented.
[18:18] <superfly> Padroni: it's nothing out of the ordinary, just basic "be good" -> http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/conduct
[18:18] <superfly> (aka respect each other)
[18:18] <Padroni> Don't worry superfly - I know IRC protocols
[18:18] <Padroni> old IRC hand, albeit a bit rusty
[18:19] <superfly> Padroni: cool beans.
[18:19] <Padroni> I used to be an Ops in a room I frequented years ago
[18:19] <Padroni> huge Afr chat room
[18:19] <Kilos> ya imo you are a good guy to have here so let use defuse the handgrenade
[18:19]  * Padroni still has his old ban-hammer
[18:20] <Padroni> Thank you, Kilos
[18:20] <Padroni> magespawn:  you happy with my vulnerability scan results?
[18:20] <Kilos> thank you for joining us and helping magespawn  
[18:20]  * superfly agrees with Kilos
[18:20] <Padroni> not a problem
[18:20] <Padroni> I cannot necessarily contribute code / bug fixes to ubuntu
[18:20] <Kilos> he has been having hassles for months
[18:20] <Padroni> but I can contribute in other ways
[18:21] <superfly> Padroni: are you allowed to do contract work?
[18:21] <Padroni> I pointed out about 15+ vulnerabilities in his site
[18:21] <Kilos> help those in this channel
[18:21]  * Padroni does what he wants to be honest
[18:21] <Padroni> yes I am
[18:21] <Padroni> I have my own web dev company
[18:21] <superfly> PM
[18:21] <Padroni> work knows about it, and do not mind
[18:21] <Padroni> yeah go superfly
[18:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> moo
[18:23] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy  
[18:23] <Kilos> whats with the cow thing
[18:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> try aptitude moo
[18:25] <Kilos> lol
[18:25] <magespaw1> bit of a yoyo tonight
[18:25] <Kilos> haha
[18:25] <Kilos> wb magespaw1  \
[18:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> now do aptitude -v moo
[18:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> then keep adding more v every time
[18:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> i.e. aptitude -vv moo
[18:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> etc
[18:26] <Kilos> no man
[18:26] <Kilos> hehe
[18:27] <Kilos> hi octoquad  
[18:27] <octoquad> evening
[18:28] <Padroni> hi octoquad
[18:28] <Padroni> I am new
[18:28] <Padroni> here
[18:28] <octoquad> Hi Padroni i am new...here :)
[18:28] <octoquad> welcome!
[18:28] <Padroni> ty
[18:28] <Padroni> hi ThatGraemeGuy
[18:29] <Kilos> oooohoooo look the numbers
[18:29] <Kilos> 8 more inetpro  
[18:30] <superfly> Kilos: I re-read your contract. You're not allowed to retire.
[18:30] <Kilos> did you hack it first?
[18:31] <Kilos> it was there in the small print
[18:37] <inetpro> ja né
[18:37] <Kilos> its so lekker to see our channel alive again
[18:37] <inetpro> Kilos: I also didn't see it in the contract
[18:38] <Kilos> it was in the small print man
[18:38] <Kilos> one cant trust hackers it seems
[18:38] <superfly> Kilos: I think you forgot to put your glasses on when you read it.
[18:38] <Kilos> i suppose next one of you will say there is no small print
[18:39] <Kilos> hahaha
[18:39] <Kilos> i love this channel
[18:39] <Kilos> see Padroni  we a happy family and if you stay here you will mellow too
[18:44] <Kilos> mellow and mild, idlewild
[18:47]  * Padroni needs beer in order to be mellow / happy / socially acceptable
[18:51] <Kilos> na
[18:57] <Kilos> now we just need someone to fix mages connection
[18:57] <inetpro> ai!
[18:57] <Kilos> wat nou
[19:07] <Padroni> hi inetpro
[19:07]  * Padroni is playing WarThunder inbetween talking
[19:08] <inetpro> oh hi Padroni
[19:08]  * Padroni still here
[19:09] <inetpro> new members always welcome :-)
[19:11] <superfly> inetpro: are you still running some hopelessly outdated version of Kubuntu? :-P
[19:11] <Kilos> oi oi numbers going down again
[19:12] <Kilos> hahaha
[19:12] <inetpro> superfly: ai!
[19:12] <superfly> :-D
[19:12] <inetpro> sounds like he upgraded today?
[19:12] <Kilos> hehe
[19:12] <superfly> inetpro: no, like, a week ago?
[19:12] <Kilos> to what
[19:12] <superfly> maybe 2?
[19:12] <inetpro> oh cool, and?
[19:12] <superfly> Kilos: Kubuntu 15.04
[19:12] <Kilos> sjoe and?
[19:13] <superfly> inetpro: I'm digging Plasma 5
[19:13] <Kilos> is it better than 14.04
[19:13] <superfly> started the upgrade process on my machine at work today too
[19:13] <superfly> Kilos: apparently Plasma 5 is lighter than KDE 4
[19:13] <superfly> which sounds quite weird.
[19:13] <Kilos> can one put it on 14.04?
[19:14] <superfly> uh, sorta, but I don't recommend it
[19:14] <Kilos> ok
[19:14] <Kilos> actually im happy with 14.04 as is
[19:15] <Kilos> will last to 16.04 unless Symmetria  gets the deb-delta server going then one can afford to upgrade often
[19:20] <Kilos> Padroni  you still awake
[19:20] <Padroni> I am here
[19:21] <Kilos> good
[19:21] <Kilos> so give your proffesional opinion of our site
[19:22] <Padroni> I like it
[19:22] <Padroni> seems to be within Ubuntu design guidelines
[19:22] <inetpro> wb clr
[19:23] <Kilos> wb clr why you so quiet
[19:23] <Kilos> wb magespawn  
[19:23] <clr> hey, working, also as a result I was on my win8.1 machine and to shy about it
[19:23] <clr> now I'm back on 14.04
[19:23] <clr> hehe
[19:23] <Kilos> lol
[19:24] <Kilos> its not the OS you are forced to use that worries us, its the Os peeps promote we watch
[19:25] <Kilos> and no help here for non linux peeps
[19:25] <Kilos> so you a linux peep so you are cleared of your sins
[19:25] <Kilos> hehe
[19:25] <Padroni> plasma 5?
[19:25] <Kilos> kde
[19:25] <Padroni> oh
[19:25] <Kilos> kde rocks
[19:26] <clr> unity for me
[19:26] <clr> flame away
[19:26] <Kilos> lol
[19:26] <Padroni> haha
[19:26] <clr> I just bought this, hope I'm not going to be disappointed
[19:26] <clr> http://www.webantics.com/billion-b-8800nxl-wireless-n-vdsladsl23g4g-lte-firewall-router
[19:26] <Kilos> unity is nice jus was lots of work for me
[19:27] <clr> and by the way HexChat is working out just fine for me
[19:27] <Kilos> oh my thats a lot for a router isnt it
[19:27] <Kilos> good 
[19:27] <Kilos> i like to see smiling customers
[19:28] <Kilos> how many pcs are you going to connect to it
[19:29] <clr> well, I have an IPFIRE box in a microATX case, no place for a vdsl modem card though
[19:29] <clr> so
[19:29] <clr> had to buy the modem
[19:29] <Kilos> ah
[19:30] <Kilos> inetpro  isnt it a bit early for g+ to invite to a meeting on the 24th
[19:30] <inetpro> Kilos: nope
[19:30] <clr> I got the invite, will maybe join
[19:30] <Kilos> lol
[19:31] <Kilos> its here clr  
[19:31] <clr> I will be in Durban in a hotel
[19:31] <inetpro> it's just an event
[19:31] <inetpro> g+ will do the necessary reminder thing
[19:31] <clr> so, might just as well join
[19:31] <Kilos> ok
[19:31] <inetpro> Kilos: you forgot to do your job
[19:31] <Kilos> yes join i want our numbers to break the record on the 24th
[19:32] <Kilos> nono i added something today inetpro  
[19:32] <superfly> Kilos: I think you should invite all your African friends :-P
[19:32] <inetpro> Kilos: your job is to remind me to to my job asap every month
[19:32] <Kilos> now you and fly and the big spark maybe we can discuss
[19:32] <Kilos> hahaha
[19:33] <Kilos> your priority job atm is the nikola and bzr web site for ubuntu-africa
[19:34] <inetpro> ai!
[19:34] <Kilos> oh what else have i forgotten
[19:34] <Kilos> anyway as you keep telling me
[19:34] <Kilos> use trello to help you remember
[19:35] <Padroni> nikola? bzr?
[19:35] <Padroni> elaborate?
[19:35] <Kilos> website tools
[19:35] <superfly> Padroni: bzr is a version control system, similar to git
[19:35] <Padroni> ok
[19:35] <magespawn> bazaar version control distributed
[19:35] <superfly> Nikola is a static web site generator
[19:35] <Padroni> link to nikola?
[19:36] <superfly> http://getnikola.com/ I think
[19:36] <superfly> ja
[19:37] <Padroni> #bookmarked
[19:37] <Padroni> do you guys need help with the site?
[19:37] <Padroni> coz I kinda like it as is...
[19:37] <Kilos> we need another one the same Padroni  
[19:37] <Kilos> just different addy
[19:37] <Padroni> so clone it?
[19:38] <Kilos> i dunno bout that , have downloaded the code sofar
[19:38] <Padroni> who is in charge of getting the addy?
[19:38] <Kilos> but the pro must do it
[19:39]  * Padroni sees ubuntu-africa.co.za is available
[19:39] <Kilos> im hoping canonical will give me a domain
[19:39] <Padroni> any domain or you looking for a specific one?
[19:39] <Kilos> and .org?
[19:39] <Kilos> superfly  ?
[19:39] <Padroni> coz seriously - I can register ubuntu-africa.co.za tomorrow if need be?
[19:40] <Padroni> and host it on one of my own servers
[19:40] <Kilos> superfly  ^^
[19:40] <superfly> Padroni: no worries about it
[19:40] <superfly> Padroni: it looks like the Ubuntu LoCo guys are interested in Kilo's project
[19:41] <Padroni> sorry - I don't know how this works, hence me shooting off suggestions
[19:41] <superfly> so we'll see where we can go with that. Might be able to get ubuntu-africa.org from them
[19:41] <Padroni> well
[19:41] <Padroni> I can help with the web dev
[19:41] <Padroni> so give me a shout if need be
[19:42] <superfly> Padroni: np, I'm not 100% sure myself, so I'm kinda feeling my way along too. But I do know that Canonical/Ubuntu pay for ubuntu-za.org
[19:42] <Kilos> ty
[19:42] <superfly> Padroni: totally, thanks!
[19:42] <Padroni> it's R55/year where I buy my domains
[19:42] <Padroni> I can really sponsor it myself if need be
[19:42] <Kilos> thats actually a good price i think
[19:43] <inetpro> Padroni: making it a .org makes a lot of sense
[19:43] <Padroni> i guess so
[19:43] <inetpro> should not be .co.za I think
[19:43] <Padroni> it also makes it R100 / year
[19:43] <Padroni> still pocket change imo
[19:43] <inetpro> oh and I think it makes sense for Canonical/Ubuntu to sponsor for the long run
[19:44] <inetpro> it's for Ubuntu after all
[19:44] <inetpro> highvoltage: or what do you say?
[19:46] <Kilos> oh inetpro  superfly  can we try remember to add a second contact person for us please so we dont need to bug maia with little things
[19:46] <Kilos> either of you will be good
[19:46] <inetpro> Kilos: put it on the Agenda
[19:46] <inetpro> good idea anyway
[19:47] <Kilos> all my ideas are good. except for the bad ones
[19:47]  * superfly is OK with being a second contact
[19:47] <inetpro> cool
[19:47] <Kilos> yay
[19:47] <Kilos> no need to go agenda
[19:47] <Kilos> add it inetpro  
[19:47]  * inetpro likes it when peeps are stepping up to the tasks at hand
[19:48] <Kilos> or we need to notify someone first
[19:49] <Kilos> personally i dont think there is a better person for the dvds hassles but lets try keep all the small things out of maias way
[19:49] <inetpro> you guys are members now after all, just talk to the relevant people at locoteams
[19:49] <Kilos> oh simple as that?
[19:49] <Padroni> I am not an ubuntu member yet
[19:49] <Padroni> still need to work on that
[19:49] <inetpro> Padroni: the challenge is all yours
[19:50] <Kilos> whew and the gray hairs
[19:50] <Kilos> the month leading up to you meeting is 6 months long
[19:51] <superfly> it looks like ubuntu-africa.org is already taken by someone else, and defaced too... Padroni, sounds like your dream :-P
[19:51] <superfly> ubuntu-africa.info is not taken though
[19:52] <inetpro> ai!
[19:52] <clr> I checked out that domain and my computer fan suddenly went balistic
[19:53] <Kilos> this one http://ubafrica.org/about-us/
[19:53] <clr> ubuntu-africa.org for the brave
[19:54] <Kilos> eish
[19:54] <Kilos> Comprehensive Care for HIV Positive Children
[19:55] <Kilos> and takes forever to open
[19:55] <Kilos> now what do we do?
[19:56] <Kilos> site name gone
[19:56] <Kilos> oh my
[19:56] <Kilos> ubuntu-all-africa
[19:56] <Kilos> ai! ai! ai!
[19:57] <inetpro> Kilos: not to worry, the super fly guy will give you wings
[19:57] <Kilos> africas-ubuntu\
[19:57] <inetpro> soon
[19:57] <inetpro> .info is all good IMHO
[19:57] <Kilos> you need to fly man i dont land smoothly anymore
[19:58] <Kilos> yeah
[19:58] <inetpro> it makes sense even
[19:58] <Kilos> oi oi oi
[19:58] <Kilos> actually yes it does
[19:58] <inetpro> you don't want too much ther other than just info :-)
[19:59] <Kilos> for once you are right
[19:59]  * Kilos ducks
[19:59] <inetpro> just makes your project a lttle bit more official if you have a home
[19:59] <inetpro> ai!
[19:59] <Kilos> hahaha
[20:00] <Kilos> this is my home. everything else is extensions
[20:00] <inetpro> Kilos: don't stop bugging your teams now
[20:00] <Kilos> sigh
[20:00] <Kilos> you say patience all the time
[20:01] <Kilos> and one step at a time
[20:01] <Kilos> then say that?
[20:01] <Kilos> ai!
[20:01] <clr> http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2015-02-09_21_49_08-eQaNZhLh.png
[20:02] <clr> that's what I got before my fan went to 100%
[20:02] <inetpro> ai!
[20:03] <superfly> yep, same here
[20:03] <Kilos> did nothing here
[20:03]  * inetpro didn't say he should sit down and do nothing
[20:03] <superfly> but mine didn't do anything
[20:03] <Kilos> have you got gufw installed and activated
[20:03] <superfly> *cackle*
[20:03] <superfly> thanks inetpro
[20:03] <clr> yes I do
[20:04] <Kilos> sigh again you misunderstand inetpro  
[20:04] <clr> I see I was logged into my lastpass, do I have anyting to worry about?
[20:04] <inetpro> Kilos: I doubt that will help, unless you really messed up your setup
[20:05] <inetpro> clr: what system are you using?
[20:05] <Kilos> you slow me doan all the time then say don't stop bugging your teams now
[20:06] <Kilos> s/doan/down
[20:06] <inetpro> Kilos: yes, because you ask too many questions at once
[20:06] <inetpro> just slow down a little man
[20:06] <Kilos> rofl
[20:06] <clr> 14.04 ubuntu straight up
[20:06] <clr> inetpro, you?
[20:06] <inetpro> and ask one question, get it answered, then move on to the next
[20:07] <Kilos> that means cop/pasting over and over from different places
[20:07]  * inetpro can't run so fast man
[20:07] <Kilos> use inline editing
[20:07] <inetpro> Kilos: you also forget
[20:07]  * inetpro is always tired
[20:08] <Kilos> sorry my friends
[20:08] <Kilos> friend too
[20:08] <inetpro> lol
[20:08] <highvoltage> inetpro: shouldn't hurt to ask
[20:09] <highvoltage> inetpro: I think Canonical actually prefers owning ubuntu-related domains
[20:09] <inetpro> highvoltage: we've asked but maybe in wrong places
[20:09] <inetpro> at least Kilos has
[20:10] <highvoltage> inetpro: I'd probably file the question on RT, poke mhall119 about it and ask for guidance, and if they don't want to, just pay it within the loco team somehow
[20:10] <Kilos> well they approve the irc channel so hopefully they will sort a site
[20:10] <Padroni> stay off ubuntu-africa.org
[20:10] <Padroni> it has 4 different malware infections
[20:10] <Kilos> maybe wrong channel ubuntu-locoteams
[20:10] <inetpro> clr: sorry for the delay... I use Kubuntu
[20:11] <inetpro> 14.04
[20:11] <Kilos> why didnt that site affect us as well
[20:11] <inetpro> clr: if you have a default updated setup you should be fine
[20:11] <clr> fresh install 
[20:12] <inetpro> perhaps just your browser and the cpu under attack, but maybe Padroni can dig up more info for us
[20:12] <clr> anyway, have never had problems before
[20:12] <Kilos> Padroni  you are actually very handy to have around
[20:13] <Padroni> haha
[20:13] <Padroni> thank you, Kilos
[20:13] <clr> yea, I see the man has talents
[20:13] <Kilos> yip
[20:13] <clr> And a good afrikaans name as well
[20:13] <Kilos> clr  have a look at opera-developer
[20:13] <inetpro> highvoltage: RT?
[20:13] <Kilos> i think its a great browser and faster than the fox
[20:14] <Kilos> rt gives the log bot
[20:14] <highvoltage> inetpro: request tracker
[20:14] <clr> oh, I use chromium, not firefox
[20:14] <highvoltage> https://rt.ubuntu.com/
[20:14] <Padroni> I like Torch browser
[20:14] <Padroni> but its not on ubuntu yet
[20:15] <highvoltage> you can file a ticket by emailing rt@ubuntu.com
[20:15] <inetpro> ah, Kilos did you file a request yet?
[20:15] <clr> never used opera
[20:15] <Kilos> i mailed them for the ubuntulog 
[20:15] <Kilos> didnt know they do more
[20:16] <Kilos> tell me exactly what to ask so they dont say we think we understand what you want
[20:16]  * Padroni is ripping ubuntu-africa.org to analyze the malware
[20:16] <Kilos> sjoe
[20:17] <Padroni> sorry but this site got raped
[20:17] <Padroni> HARD.
[20:18]  * inetpro never too old to learn
[20:18] <inetpro> highvoltage: don't think I've even been on https://rt.ubuntu.com/ 
[20:18] <inetpro> thanks for the guidance
[20:19] <Kilos> ty highvoltage  
[20:19] <Padroni> well
[20:19] <Padroni> I can only rip 3 files
[20:19] <Padroni> all three malware infected
[20:19] <Padroni> so that site is dead
[20:20] <Padroni> I guess the next step is to try a password reset on the registrant email address
[20:20] <Padroni> and then request a transfer?
[20:21] <inetpro> Kilos: I think the very first next step is to file your RT request
[20:21] <Kilos> yessir
[20:22] <inetpro> then we can start poking mhall, we know where we can find him
[20:25] <Kilos> dave lawson mailed me that the bot was connected
[20:25] <inetpro> Kilos: nice!
[20:28] <Padroni> who is an ubuntu member?
[20:28] <Padroni> how long did it take to get there?
[20:28] <Kilos> lol
[20:28] <Padroni> just wondering
[20:29] <Padroni> I know I do not remotely qualify
[20:29] <Kilos> here we have highvoltage  superfly  and i
[20:29] <inetpro> then there are others on the mailing list as well
[20:29] <Kilos> and some of the tunisia guys too
[20:29] <inetpro> Padroni: are you on the mailing list even?
[20:29] <highvoltage> and tumbleweed 
[20:30] <Kilos> oh ya how could i forget tumbles
[20:30] <Kilos> sorry tumbleweed  
[20:30] <Padroni> I requested but not sure if approved #mailing list
[20:30] <Kilos> mine took 6 years Padroni  
[20:30] <Padroni> wow
[20:31] <inetpro> lol
[20:31] <Kilos> but actually only i month after applying
[20:31] <Kilos> same with the fly
[20:31] <inetpro> ya, that sure sounds extreme :-)
[20:31] <Kilos> only longer
[20:31] <Kilos> lol
[20:32] <inetpro> Padroni: the mailing list is run by a machine, no need to wait for approval
[20:32] <inetpro> at least last time I checked
[20:32] <Padroni> I saw the mail now and confirmed
[20:32] <Padroni> so yes, I am on the lsit
[20:32] <Padroni> *list
[20:32] <Kilos> does he have the right address inetpro  
[20:33] <inetpro> ah, you see :-0
[20:33] <Kilos> send an email to the list Padroni  just greeting list members and saying who you are
[20:33] <Kilos> or ask for help
[20:33] <superfly> Padroni: Ubuntu membership is granted to folks who have shown commitment to promoting and developing Ubuntu
[20:33] <Kilos> where did you get the addy for the list Padroni  
[20:34] <Padroni> from ubuntu-za.org
[20:34] <Padroni> signed up on the site
[20:34] <Padroni> jsut mailed my greeting
[20:34] <Kilos> ya that should be right
[20:34] <inetpro> Kilos: you see, it's not necessary here
[20:34] <inetpro> should remove twitter in the topic as well
[20:35] <Kilos> ai!
[20:35] <Kilos> now my topic bar has a big blank space
[20:35] <Kilos> not everyone goes to the site before coming here
[20:36] <inetpro> our topic is overcrowded with too much info man
[20:36] <inetpro> only most important stuff should be there
[20:37] <inetpro> IMHO
[20:37] <inetpro> please feel free to disagree
[20:37] <Kilos> my opic bar has uses 2 lines
[20:37] <Kilos> sigh
[20:37] <magespawn> i off to bed, good night all
[20:38] <Kilos> night magespawn  sleep tight
[20:38] <inetpro> good night magespawn
[20:39] <Padroni> hello?
[20:39] <inetpro> sorry oom :-)
[20:39] <Padroni> ah
[20:39] <inetpro> but if others start complaining I shall bring it back
[20:40] <Padroni> thought I disconnected or something
[20:40] <Kilos> aw now you wait till mage leaves first
[20:40] <Kilos> superfly  please complain
[20:40] <Padroni> who is running the pastebin?
[20:40] <Padroni> lots of spam crap on there
[20:41] <Kilos> slexy.org?
[20:41] <Padroni> disable anonymous pasting
[20:41] <Padroni> yar
[20:41] <Kilos> can you fix it
[20:41] <Padroni> i need admin on it
[20:41] <Padroni> or r00t
[20:41]  * Padroni positively HATES spammers and spends hours each day tracking them down and getting them arrested.
[20:42] <Padroni> 500 pages of porn links and spam
[20:42] <Kilos> how do we find the maintainer of it
[20:42] <Kilos> wow
[20:42] <Padroni> who is gonna take that site serious...?
[20:43] <Padroni> one sec
[20:43] <Kilos> how come i dont see all that stuff when i paste there
[20:44]  * Padroni thinks we need our OWN pastebin
[20:45] <inetpro> Padroni: are you talking about http://pastebin.com/ ?
[20:45] <Padroni> yes
[20:45] <Padroni> but I am leaning (again) towards our own domain
[20:45] <Kilos> inetpro  add our pastebin and remove slexy please
[20:45] <Padroni> in other words, we have our own pastebin
[20:45] <Padroni> members register to paste
[20:45] <Kilos> yesh
[20:45] <inetpro> uh?
[20:45] <Padroni> so you know who put it on there
[20:46] <Padroni> yar?
[20:46] <Kilos> no need to register methinks
[20:46] <Padroni> i am thinking it would be on a subdomain
[20:46] <inetpro> Padroni: we prefer using http://slexy.org/ as listed in the topic above
[20:46] <Padroni> ok
[20:46] <Padroni> just saying - crap load of spam / porn on there
[20:47] <Padroni> we have our own pastebin at work
[20:47] <Padroni> so i know it's not an exclusive thing
[20:47]  * inetpro has no idea who runs these sites... they are just very useful tools to have around
[20:47] <superfly> Padroni: to be honest, the less we have to maintain, the better
[20:47] <superfly> let them deal with the spam
[20:48] <superfly> it's not our problem
[20:48] <Padroni> #noted
[20:49] <Kilos> just tell them about it maybe , maybe they will ask you to fix it
[20:49] <Kilos> more business for you
[20:50] <Padroni> Nah
[20:50] <Padroni> I am not interested in fixing their site for them
[20:50] <Padroni> especially since the don't seem to be either
[20:51] <Padroni> anyone here that use bazaar?
[20:51] <Padroni> if so - what do you use to code with?
[20:51] <Kilos> maybe they dont know how 
[20:52] <Kilos> ya fly used bazaar
[20:55] <superfly> Padroni: bzr is just a VCS, it doesn't have much to do with coding
[20:55] <Padroni> I know
[20:55] <Padroni> but you edit the code in order to push for changes
[20:56] <Padroni> what html / css / php editors are you guys currently using?
[20:56] <Padroni> I am a huge fan of Dreamweaver.  There is no equivalent on Linux
[20:56] <Padroni> hence me asking
[20:58] <Kilos> you use bzr then nikola converts it as far as i gathered
[20:58] <Kilos> no dreanweaver or them things
[20:59] <superfly> yeah, Nikola generates HTML from text files and a template system
[21:00] <inetpro> Padroni: for the editor we tend to prefer vim
[21:00] <Padroni> ugh
[21:00] <Padroni> VIM
[21:00] <superfly> no, inetpro prefers vim
[21:01] <inetpro> :-)
[21:01] <superfly> I prefer Kate
[21:01]  * Padroni has been using VIM for about 2 years, mostly coz he can't figure out how to exit the f*cking thing
[21:01] <superfly> (but vim is good too)
[21:01] <Kilos> lol
[21:01] <Kilos> i had that once now try use nano where i can
[21:02] <inetpro> uh
[21:02] <Kilos> then kate and gedit
[21:02] <inetpro> "I couldn't figure out how to quit vi so I rebooted the system." --[name censored to protect the innocent]
[21:02] <superfly> really good intro to vim: http://www.viemu.com/a-why-vi-vim.html
[21:02] <Kilos> wow how did you find that
[21:03] <superfly> Kilos: I've known about it for a long time
[21:03] <Kilos> i laughed when i saw that because i did the same thing a week earlier
[21:03] <superfly> http://www.viemu.com/a_vi_vim_graphical_cheat_sheet_tutorial.html
[21:04] <Kilos> uh oh about what
[21:05] <inetpro> Kilos: you mean inetpro?
[21:05] <superfly> wow... they need to ADD development tools to Visual Studio? Most of hose features come standard in my text editor: http://www.codekana.com/
[21:05] <superfly> *those
[21:05] <Kilos> i dunno
[21:05] <superfly> hmm, bed time
[21:05] <superfly> Kilos: you're keeping me up late again!
[21:05]  * Kilos needs to fire off a mail
[21:05] <Kilos> hehe
[21:06] <Kilos> superfly  go sleep please
[21:06] <superfly> Good night all.
[21:07] <Padroni> nite
[21:07] <Kilos> night my fly
[21:07] <Kilos> sleep tight
[21:10] <inetpro> good night superfly
[21:11]  * inetpro also needs to recharge
[21:11] <inetpro> batteries flat long ago
[21:12]  * Padroni still has another 3 hours of work
[21:12] <Padroni> and about 6 more beers
[21:12] <Kilos> whew
[21:12] <Kilos> got your mail
[21:13] <Padroni> who's mail?
[21:13] <Kilos> your mail to the list man
[21:13] <Kilos> i even replied
[21:13] <Padroni> oh haha
[21:14] <Padroni> nothing in my inbox yet
[21:18] <Padroni> hmm
[21:18]  * Padroni sees the new Kali is out
[21:18] <Padroni> #downloading
[21:26] <Padroni> You guys sleeping now?
[21:26] <Padroni> Shall I log off?
[21:27] <Kilos> nope im on another site trying to get a domain
[21:27] <Padroni> do share?
[21:30] <Kilos> im at #ubuntu-locoteams now
[21:35] <inetpro> paste your story from slexy 
[21:44] <Padroni> story?
[21:52] <Kilos> sjoe
[21:52] <Kilos> i was too slow to even see this but it wouldnt have made a diffs i think
[21:56]  * Padroni switched from beer to whisky
[21:56] <Padroni> getting too late for beer now
[21:56] <Kilos> sjoe
[21:56] <Kilos> well they cant supply a domain name
[21:57] <Padroni> not?
[21:57] <Padroni> so what now?
[21:57] <Padroni> you gotta get one yourself?
[21:57] <Kilos> now we have to make a plan on our own
[21:57] <Padroni> dude that is easy
[21:57] <Kilos> ow much longer you have to keep going
[21:58] <Padroni> domain names aren't hard to organise
[21:58] <Padroni> 2 hours
[21:58] <Kilos> whew
[21:58] <Padroni> yeah been at it since 08H00 this morning
[21:58] <Padroni> I am not even tired yet
[21:58] <Padroni> to be honest
[21:58] <Kilos> unreal im about falling off the chair here
[21:59] <Kilos> but im a bit older than you
[21:59] <Padroni> hewhe
[21:59] <Padroni> true
[21:59] <Kilos> lol
[22:00] <Kilos> actually ive had years of bed by 9 and this last month has got to me a bit
[22:01] <Padroni> i have spent most of my late 20's and early 30's working 16 - 18 hour days
[22:01] <Padroni> so I don't need a lot of sleep
[22:01] <Padroni> I take as much as I can get though
[22:01] <Padroni> i love sleeping
[22:02] <Padroni> but I can function well without it
[22:02] <Kilos> whew
[22:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> :-o
[22:03] <Kilos> ill go crash now, see ya all tomorrow and we can talk about a domain
[22:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos you still awake
[22:03] <Kilos> wow ThatGraemeGuy  you are up late
[22:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah fixing mysql replication quickly
[22:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> done again
[22:03] <Kilos> hahaha yeah been negotiating with the council
[22:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> surprised to see you awake so late
[22:04] <Kilos> ya im crashing where i sit
[22:04] <ThatGraemeGuy> k i'm off night night
[22:04] <Kilos> night
[22:04] <Kilos> night all
[22:14] <Padroni> I'm off too
[22:14] <Padroni> have a good one folks