| benhem | Hi, I'm on 14.04, installed fglrx in attempt to get AMD/radeon drivers, didn't work, messed with something, possibly xorg? Now when I boot up, my external display can only mirror my main display, my panels appear briefly but then vanish, I can use mouse but not keyboard, and compiz window decorations are broken | 04:39 |
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| benhem | I've removed fglrx and used apt-get to reinstall xubuntu-desktop, no avail | 04:39 |
| benhem | thanks in advance if anyone has a clue here | 04:39 |
| benhem | er, ATI/radeon | 04:40 |
| holstein | benhem: it can be the case that, your hardware, in linux , doesnt support extending the desktop | 04:41 |
| benhem | it always has, in the past | 04:41 |
| benhem | I messed up a pretty nice setup | 04:42 |
| holstein | benhem: sure, but, this is a newer version, then? newer kernel? newer driver? etc? | 04:42 |
| holstein | benhem: you messed up a pretty nice setup? | 04:42 |
| benhem | no, I mean, it did an hour ago | 04:42 |
| benhem | I just install fglrx via apt-get and it messed with things | 04:42 |
| benhem | holstein: yep | 04:42 |
| holstein | sure, that can "mess things up".. if the hardware doesnt support the driver you are installing | 04:43 |
| holstein | why is the open one not an option? | 04:43 |
| benhem | it is -- I'd like to return to it! | 04:43 |
| holstein | id purge what i installed.. | 04:43 |
| benhem | I thought the proprietary one might speed certain things up | 04:43 |
| benhem | ok, apt-get remove --purge fglrx? | 04:43 |
| holstein | you can also look for an xorg.conf if the package put one in place | 04:44 |
| benhem | or use apt-get install purge and use that? | 04:44 |
| benhem | unfortunately my xorg.conf files are spread out in a folder xorg.conf.d -- and it doesn't seem to have backed anything up, and I'm not sure which one/s were modified | 04:44 |
| holstein | what do i do? i'll literally do a "throw-away" install.. i'll install, a time or 2 or more, trying all the driver options.. as needed. then, if i need, i'll fresh install having learned what i need to do | 04:44 |
| holstein | benhem: xorg.conf is the one | 04:45 |
| benhem | ok, I don't have that file | 04:45 |
| holstein | ok | 04:45 |
| benhem | I have wacom, quirks, mouse, etc. | 04:45 |
| holstein | so, remove the driver you install | 04:45 |
| holstein | benhem: i will unplug *all* other hardware | 04:45 |
| benhem | ok | 04:45 |
| benhem | how do I remove the driver exactly? use apt-get remove --purge fglrx? | 04:45 |
| holstein | no need to have any other USB hardware installed here.. simpify, isolate.. identify.. repair | 04:45 |
| holstein | benhem: you would remove whatever you installed | 04:45 |
| holstein | !amd | 04:46 |
| holstein | !nvidia | 04:46 |
| ubottu | For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto | 04:46 |
| benhem | well, I can't use a browser currently -- no display | 04:46 |
| benhem | I'm in bash | 04:46 |
| benhem | thanks though | 04:46 |
| holstein | theres a safe mode in grub that you *can* use to get to the desktop | 04:46 |
| benhem | but all I installed was fglrx, so I guess I'd remove that. I'll try again | 04:46 |
| holstein | benhem: though, you can use "bash" or whatever you like to remove whatever you installed to break what you broke | 04:46 |
| holstein | benhem: sudo apt-get autoremove "whatever" is where i would start.. | 04:47 |
| benhem | ok, thanks holstein :) | 04:47 |
| holstein | benhem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/172319/how-can-i-start-in-safe-mode | 04:48 |
| holstein | though, i'll just follow the promts in the recovery mode.. | 04:49 |
| benhem | holstein: it's ok, I did purge the fglrx file and reboot, and the center is kinda holding. I still have my display stuck in a laughable resolution, and my mouse is polling verrrry slowly, very jumpy. Had to replace compiz with xfwm4 to get window decorations | 04:55 |
| benhem | but I can at least read about the issue online maybe | 04:55 |
| holstein | i would not use compiz | 04:56 |
| holstein | not to "fix" something you broke, otherwise | 04:56 |
| holstein | i would try with another user, with the stock setup | 04:56 |
| holstein | windoww decorations are not something i would bother with til i get other issues sorted.. | 04:56 |
| benhem | hmm | 04:56 |
| benhem | I'm not currently using compiz | 04:57 |
| benhem | I'll reboot and see if anything is helped | 04:57 |
| holstein | benhem: ok, im only responding to where you state you did | 04:57 |
| benhem | well, as I said, I replaced compiz | 04:57 |
| holstein | benhem: at some point, considering what all you have added and changed, you may want to just reinstall.. might be the simplese | 04:57 |
| holstein | simplest* | 04:57 |
| benhem | it might! | 04:57 |
| benhem | I would love to just reinstall the open drivers | 04:57 |
| holstein | benhem: xubuntu doesnt ship with compiz.. so, im not sure when you added compiz.. | 04:58 |
| holstein | benhem: the open driver are just there.. you dont remove them.. you didnt | 04:58 |
| holstein | you can use the link i gave before to see about showing what you are using .. lspci -v or -vv whatever you need to see the driver you are using. | 04:58 |
| holstein | look and see | 04:58 |
| benhem | this is not a fresh install, holstein -- I've added compiz and various things over the months | 04:59 |
| holstein | benhem: sure... so, like i was saying, if you have strayed a lot from stock xubuntu, and broken it, and want stock xubuntu, you may consider it "easier" to just reinstall | 04:59 |
| benhem | sure | 05:00 |
| holstein | otherwise, just start undoing what you did to break it | 05:00 |
| benhem | all I did was install fglrx, to break it | 05:00 |
| benhem | I removed that, and it's still broken, so before I reinstall completely, I'd like to see about fixing the open driver | 05:00 |
| benhem | (if that's the issue) | 05:00 |
| benhem | otherwise I don't know what's up. xorg.conf might be behind it | 05:00 |
| holstein | the open driver is still there, and not broken | 05:01 |
| benhem | never thought fglrx would mess with it | 05:01 |
| holstein | just run the commands i gave, and that are at the link i gave to see what driver you are using.. what driver are you using? | 05:01 |
| holstein | !nvidia | 05:01 |
| holstein | lspci -v should tell you what you are using | 05:01 |
| holstein | benhem: what driver are you using? | 05:02 |
| benhem | http://fpaste.org/183162/58123142/ | 05:02 |
| benhem | that's the output | 05:02 |
| holstein | try lshw -c video | 05:03 |
| benhem | doesn't seem to give output, just says PCI (sysfs) | 05:03 |
| benhem | and hangs | 05:03 |
| holstein | benhem: friend, you need to determine what driver you are using.. however you would like to do that.. | 05:04 |
| benhem | ok. following your instructions afaik | 05:04 |
| holstein | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD is what i always refer to | 05:04 |
| holstein | what driver are you using? | 05:06 |
| benhem | http://fpaste.org/183163/23458354/ | 05:06 |
| holstein | benhem: so, what driver are you using? i dont see anything you are sharing with me that details that.. | 05:08 |
| benhem | well, I'm confused as you are | 05:08 |
| benhem | this is the output of the command the site you linked suggested in order to identify same | 05:08 |
| holstein | benhem: i realize you are reading what i type, and responding with the actions i link,but, the fact is, you need to know what driver you are using | 05:08 |
| benhem | that's a thing I don't know. You said the open driver can't be removed, so to my knowledge that's what I'm using | 05:08 |
| benhem | there is no other driver isntalled | 05:09 |
| benhem | *installed | 05:09 |
| holstein | benhem: no.. the driver is baked into the kernel. so, you never removed it. but, you specificially installed a different driver which may blacklist the open module, or set an xorg.conf to specifify | 05:10 |
| holstein | you state you have no xorg.conf.. | 05:10 |
| benhem | let me updatedb and look again | 05:10 |
| holstein | if its my system, and ive been messing around on it for months, i reinstall.. it'll take about 15 minutes.. andi'll know its right after its done | 05:11 |
| holstein | if i want to "Fix" that, i'll try reading the documentation for the package i installed | 05:11 |
| benhem | right...I understand the perks of a fresh install | 05:11 |
| holstein | i'll update.. "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".. i'll look at any ppa's i added | 05:11 |
| holstein | i'll try as another user | 05:11 |
| benhem | ok, update might be worth a gamble | 05:12 |
| holstein | gamble? | 05:12 |
| holstein | you *want* the upates.. | 05:12 |
| holstein | updates* | 05:12 |
| benhem | gamble with regard to this specific problem | 05:12 |
| benhem | holstein: http://fpaste.org/183164/58787142/ | 05:13 |
| benhem | I don't think any of those are what I'm looking for. Is there another way the open driver could have been 'blacklisted?' | 05:14 |
| holstein | benhem: sure | 05:14 |
| holstein | benhem: in the documentation for whatever you installed, you should be able to find what happened, where | 05:14 |
| benhem | hmm. Ok, will try. Thank you! | 05:14 |
| holstein | or, just look and see what driver you are using | 05:15 |
| holstein | should be the open one now | 05:15 |
| benhem | look how? | 05:15 |
| holstein | benhem: i just keep trying things til i get what i need | 05:15 |
| holstein | but, i dont know your system.. | 05:15 |
| holstein | i dont know why the commands i give are not working.. | 05:15 |
| benhem | hm, ok | 05:15 |
| holstein | i dont know if you have any 3rd party ppas or sources.. or what all you have done to tweak the system | 05:16 |
| benhem | http://fpaste.org/183165/23459008/ | 05:17 |
| holstein | benhem: note, below vga.. in the audio category | 05:17 |
| holstein | Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel | 05:17 |
| holstein | thats what im looking for.. and i'll just keep hammering at it til it tells me | 05:18 |
| benhem | oh, isn't that snd sound? I skipped that for that reason | 05:18 |
| benhem | thank you | 05:18 |
| holstein | benhem: that *is* sound | 05:18 |
| holstein | im saying, there is *not* one for the VGA.. and i dont know why | 05:18 |
| benhem | ah | 05:18 |
| benhem | ok, I tried as su and got a bit more info | 05:18 |
| holstein | i dont know if something is blacklisted, or if you have ppa's added, or if you added custom packages.. or whatever else happened | 05:18 |
| benhem | nothing major afaik. | 05:19 |
| holstein | if you didnt use the GUI to install the proprietary driver, and you just input some random sudo command, thats rather major | 05:19 |
| benhem | :/ k | 05:20 |
| benhem | nothing ELSE major | 05:20 |
| benhem | holstein: radeon driver is enabled again, finally | 05:35 |
| benhem | remove --purge'ing the fglrx-updates and rebooting seemed to do it | 05:36 |
| benhem | thank you for that. Now my obstacle is getting panels and keyboard input back (again) | 05:36 |
| uiye | hello | 09:12 |
| XATRIX | Hi, why when i connect external RGB cable to my laptop, it shows me a screen configuration dialog, as it should, but when i close this app - my current XFCE theme changes? | 09:21 |
| XATRIX | I suppose it should be chanaged after i close the app | 09:21 |
| XATRIX | I'll show you in actual. Let me do a screenshots | 09:22 |
| brainwash | XATRIX: the settings daemon crashed most likely | 09:23 |
| XATRIX | Looks, like | 09:24 |
| XATRIX | How can i check for ? | 09:24 |
| brainwash | do keyboard shortcuts stop working also? | 09:24 |
| XATRIX | Yes, seems like | 09:24 |
| brainwash | the process "xfsettingsd" is not running anymore | 09:24 |
| XATRIX | But, alt+tab is still functioning | 09:24 |
| brainwash | alt tab is managed by the window manager | 09:25 |
| XATRIX | yeap it doesn't | 09:25 |
| XATRIX | But what could be wrong with xfsettingsd ? | 09:25 |
| XATRIX | Yea, i restarted this daemon by my hands, and i have theme came back to | 09:26 |
| XATRIX | And my keys are now func. | 09:26 |
| brainwash | bug 1379702 | 09:27 |
| ubottu | bug 1379702 in xfce4-settings (Ubuntu) "xfsettingsd crashes after disconnecting external screen" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1379702 | 09:27 |
| brainwash | you can start the daemon like this to get some debug info: XFSETTINGSD_DEBUG=1 xfsettingsd --replace --no-daemon | 09:27 |
| brainwash | maybe it's even the exact same crash | 09:27 |
| brainwash | a potential patch is available in the linked upstream report, maybe you could test it | 09:28 |
| XATRIX | Yea, i'll try to | 09:29 |
| XATRIX | Thanks a lot for the help! | 09:29 |
| brainwash | you're welcome :) | 09:29 |
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| sterastos | bonjou il y a un canal francophone ? | 11:42 |
| sterastos | bonjour | 11:42 |
| cfhowlett | !fr | sterastos | 11:42 |
| ubottu | sterastos: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. | 11:42 |
| Guido1 | Hello, can I check my Xubuntu 64 bit instalation? I had to install some pakages so that I can run programs which arre only available for 32 bit. I would like to know if that influenced the 64 bit base | 11:49 |
| knome | Guido1, you're still running the 64-bit version of xubuntu | 11:55 |
| Guido1 | knome: okee, I know that you can modyfy Linux a lot. so I was thinking about the pposibility of changing a 64 bit version to 32. Some times it's a bit slow | 11:57 |
| Bogdan1508 | Welcome! Before me was a big problem for window 7 operating system when connected to the network, it says "limited access" and a few seconds is "connected" and I have access to the Internet. And the operating system at pidklyuchennni this network is a network and click on system connects but 10 - 20 seconds the connection is interrupted. What can you do about it? I noticed that this happens only on networks with "limited access" | 14:14 |
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| natuzi | When I install a theme, it is not the same as the preview. | 15:34 |
| likemindead | Through the software center? | 15:35 |
| natuzi | likemindead: no with xfce-look.org and the themes folder | 15:35 |
| natuzi | Ex: http://xfce-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/90145-1.png mine http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/39965384a.png | 15:37 |
| likemindead | Missing dependencies? | 15:39 |
| natuzi | I don't know this is the page http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php?content=90145 | 15:40 |
| brainwash | natuzi: did you change the window decoration theme (settings > window manager)? | 16:00 |
| brainwash | natuzi: it's also very likely that old themes are not compatible anymore | 16:00 |
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| natuzi | brainwash: gtk and xfwm | 16:03 |
| brainwash | try another theme | 16:04 |
| brainwash | something less ancient :) | 16:04 |
| brainwash | oh, you could also try to contact the theme creator | 16:05 |
| natuzi | brainwash: yes i'll and what is your theme for xfce? | 16:07 |
| brainwash | natuzi: I usually use Numix, it's a very popular theme and should be installed by default | 16:09 |
| ippotsuko | @KawaiiUshio: @jason0x21 @xfceofficial How do I set systemwide proxy servers in Xubuntu? i need use socks5 proxy and use .pac file to automaticly control | 18:11 |
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| montagne | I have a little problem: http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/93954860la.png I don't have the full window | 23:21 |
| montagne | Ichecked the resolution and some other graphic parameters but the problem still | 23:29 |
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