[04:39] Hi, I'm on 14.04, installed fglrx in attempt to get AMD/radeon drivers, didn't work, messed with something, possibly xorg? Now when I boot up, my external display can only mirror my main display, my panels appear briefly but then vanish, I can use mouse but not keyboard, and compiz window decorations are broken [04:39] I've removed fglrx and used apt-get to reinstall xubuntu-desktop, no avail [04:39] thanks in advance if anyone has a clue here [04:40] er, ATI/radeon [04:41] benhem: it can be the case that, your hardware, in linux , doesnt support extending the desktop [04:41] it always has, in the past [04:42] I messed up a pretty nice setup [04:42] benhem: sure, but, this is a newer version, then? newer kernel? newer driver? etc? [04:42] benhem: you messed up a pretty nice setup? [04:42] no, I mean, it did an hour ago [04:42] I just install fglrx via apt-get and it messed with things [04:42] holstein: yep [04:43] sure, that can "mess things up".. if the hardware doesnt support the driver you are installing [04:43] why is the open one not an option? [04:43] it is -- I'd like to return to it! [04:43] id purge what i installed.. [04:43] I thought the proprietary one might speed certain things up [04:43] ok, apt-get remove --purge fglrx? [04:44] you can also look for an xorg.conf if the package put one in place [04:44] or use apt-get install purge and use that? [04:44] unfortunately my xorg.conf files are spread out in a folder xorg.conf.d -- and it doesn't seem to have backed anything up, and I'm not sure which one/s were modified [04:44] what do i do? i'll literally do a "throw-away" install.. i'll install, a time or 2 or more, trying all the driver options.. as needed. then, if i need, i'll fresh install having learned what i need to do [04:45] benhem: xorg.conf is the one [04:45] ok, I don't have that file [04:45] ok [04:45] I have wacom, quirks, mouse, etc. [04:45] so, remove the driver you install [04:45] benhem: i will unplug *all* other hardware [04:45] ok [04:45] how do I remove the driver exactly? use apt-get remove --purge fglrx? [04:45] no need to have any other USB hardware installed here.. simpify, isolate.. identify.. repair [04:45] benhem: you would remove whatever you installed [04:46] !amd [04:46] !nvidia [04:46] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto [04:46] well, I can't use a browser currently -- no display [04:46] I'm in bash [04:46] thanks though [04:46] theres a safe mode in grub that you *can* use to get to the desktop [04:46] but all I installed was fglrx, so I guess I'd remove that. I'll try again [04:46] benhem: though, you can use "bash" or whatever you like to remove whatever you installed to break what you broke [04:47] benhem: sudo apt-get autoremove "whatever" is where i would start.. [04:47] ok, thanks holstein :) [04:48] benhem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/172319/how-can-i-start-in-safe-mode [04:49] though, i'll just follow the promts in the recovery mode.. [04:55] holstein: it's ok, I did purge the fglrx file and reboot, and the center is kinda holding. I still have my display stuck in a laughable resolution, and my mouse is polling verrrry slowly, very jumpy. Had to replace compiz with xfwm4 to get window decorations [04:55] but I can at least read about the issue online maybe [04:56] i would not use compiz [04:56] not to "fix" something you broke, otherwise [04:56] i would try with another user, with the stock setup [04:56] windoww decorations are not something i would bother with til i get other issues sorted.. [04:56] hmm [04:57] I'm not currently using compiz [04:57] I'll reboot and see if anything is helped [04:57] benhem: ok, im only responding to where you state you did [04:57] well, as I said, I replaced compiz [04:57] benhem: at some point, considering what all you have added and changed, you may want to just reinstall.. might be the simplese [04:57] simplest* [04:57] it might! [04:57] I would love to just reinstall the open drivers [04:58] benhem: xubuntu doesnt ship with compiz.. so, im not sure when you added compiz.. [04:58] benhem: the open driver are just there.. you dont remove them.. you didnt [04:58] you can use the link i gave before to see about showing what you are using .. lspci -v or -vv whatever you need to see the driver you are using. [04:58] look and see [04:59] this is not a fresh install, holstein -- I've added compiz and various things over the months [04:59] benhem: sure... so, like i was saying, if you have strayed a lot from stock xubuntu, and broken it, and want stock xubuntu, you may consider it "easier" to just reinstall [05:00] sure [05:00] otherwise, just start undoing what you did to break it [05:00] all I did was install fglrx, to break it [05:00] I removed that, and it's still broken, so before I reinstall completely, I'd like to see about fixing the open driver [05:00] (if that's the issue) [05:00] otherwise I don't know what's up. xorg.conf might be behind it [05:01] the open driver is still there, and not broken [05:01] never thought fglrx would mess with it [05:01] just run the commands i gave, and that are at the link i gave to see what driver you are using.. what driver are you using? [05:01] !nvidia [05:01] lspci -v should tell you what you are using [05:02] benhem: what driver are you using? [05:02] http://fpaste.org/183162/58123142/ [05:02] that's the output [05:03] try lshw -c video [05:03] doesn't seem to give output, just says PCI (sysfs) [05:03] and hangs [05:04] benhem: friend, you need to determine what driver you are using.. however you would like to do that.. [05:04] ok. following your instructions afaik [05:04] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD is what i always refer to [05:06] what driver are you using? [05:06] http://fpaste.org/183163/23458354/ [05:08] benhem: so, what driver are you using? i dont see anything you are sharing with me that details that.. [05:08] well, I'm confused as you are [05:08] this is the output of the command the site you linked suggested in order to identify same [05:08] benhem: i realize you are reading what i type, and responding with the actions i link,but, the fact is, you need to know what driver you are using [05:08] that's a thing I don't know. You said the open driver can't be removed, so to my knowledge that's what I'm using [05:09] there is no other driver isntalled [05:09] *installed [05:10] benhem: no.. the driver is baked into the kernel. so, you never removed it. but, you specificially installed a different driver which may blacklist the open module, or set an xorg.conf to specifify [05:10] you state you have no xorg.conf.. [05:10] let me updatedb and look again [05:11] if its my system, and ive been messing around on it for months, i reinstall.. it'll take about 15 minutes.. andi'll know its right after its done [05:11] if i want to "Fix" that, i'll try reading the documentation for the package i installed [05:11] right...I understand the perks of a fresh install [05:11] i'll update.. "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".. i'll look at any ppa's i added [05:11] i'll try as another user [05:12] ok, update might be worth a gamble [05:12] gamble? [05:12] you *want* the upates.. [05:12] updates* [05:12] gamble with regard to this specific problem [05:13] holstein: http://fpaste.org/183164/58787142/ [05:14] I don't think any of those are what I'm looking for. Is there another way the open driver could have been 'blacklisted?' [05:14] benhem: sure [05:14] benhem: in the documentation for whatever you installed, you should be able to find what happened, where [05:14] hmm. Ok, will try. Thank you! [05:15] or, just look and see what driver you are using [05:15] should be the open one now [05:15] look how? [05:15] benhem: i just keep trying things til i get what i need [05:15] but, i dont know your system.. [05:15] i dont know why the commands i give are not working.. [05:15] hm, ok [05:16] i dont know if you have any 3rd party ppas or sources.. or what all you have done to tweak the system [05:17] http://fpaste.org/183165/23459008/ [05:17] benhem: note, below vga.. in the audio category [05:17] Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel [05:18] thats what im looking for.. and i'll just keep hammering at it til it tells me [05:18] oh, isn't that snd sound? I skipped that for that reason [05:18] thank you [05:18] benhem: that *is* sound [05:18] im saying, there is *not* one for the VGA.. and i dont know why [05:18] ah [05:18] ok, I tried as su and got a bit more info [05:18] i dont know if something is blacklisted, or if you have ppa's added, or if you added custom packages.. or whatever else happened [05:19] nothing major afaik. [05:19] if you didnt use the GUI to install the proprietary driver, and you just input some random sudo command, thats rather major [05:20] :/ k [05:20] nothing ELSE major [05:35] holstein: radeon driver is enabled again, finally [05:36] remove --purge'ing the fglrx-updates and rebooting seemed to do it [05:36] thank you for that. Now my obstacle is getting panels and keyboard input back (again) [09:12] hello [09:21] Hi, why when i connect external RGB cable to my laptop, it shows me a screen configuration dialog, as it should, but when i close this app - my current XFCE theme changes? [09:21] I suppose it should be chanaged after i close the app [09:22] I'll show you in actual. Let me do a screenshots [09:23] XATRIX: the settings daemon crashed most likely [09:24] Looks, like [09:24] How can i check for ? [09:24] do keyboard shortcuts stop working also? [09:24] Yes, seems like [09:24] the process "xfsettingsd" is not running anymore [09:24] But, alt+tab is still functioning [09:25] alt tab is managed by the window manager [09:25] yeap it doesn't [09:25] But what could be wrong with xfsettingsd ? [09:26] Yea, i restarted this daemon by my hands, and i have theme came back to [09:26] And my keys are now func. [09:27] bug 1379702 [09:27] bug 1379702 in xfce4-settings (Ubuntu) "xfsettingsd crashes after disconnecting external screen" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1379702 [09:27] you can start the daemon like this to get some debug info: XFSETTINGSD_DEBUG=1 xfsettingsd --replace --no-daemon [09:27] maybe it's even the exact same crash [09:28] a potential patch is available in the linked upstream report, maybe you could test it [09:29] Yea, i'll try to [09:29] Thanks a lot for the help! [09:29] you're welcome :) === crondd is now known as crond [11:42] bonjou il y a un canal francophone ? [11:42] bonjour [11:42] !fr | sterastos [11:42] sterastos: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. [11:49] Hello, can I check my Xubuntu 64 bit instalation? I had to install some pakages so that I can run programs which arre only available for 32 bit. I would like to know if that influenced the 64 bit base [11:55] Guido1, you're still running the 64-bit version of xubuntu [11:57] knome: okee, I know that you can modyfy Linux a lot. so I was thinking about the pposibility of changing a 64 bit version to 32. Some times it's a bit slow [14:14] Welcome! Before me was a big problem for window 7 operating system when connected to the network, it says "limited access" and a few seconds is "connected" and I have access to the Internet. And the operating system at pidklyuchennni this network is a network and click on system connects but 10 - 20 seconds the connection is interrupted. What can you do about it? I noticed that this happens only on networks with "limited access" === idleone_ is now known as io [15:34] When I install a theme, it is not the same as the preview. [15:35] Through the software center? [15:35] likemindead: no with xfce-look.org and the themes folder [15:37] Ex: http://xfce-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/90145-1.png mine http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/39965384a.png [15:39] Missing dependencies? [15:40] I don't know this is the page http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php?content=90145 [16:00] natuzi: did you change the window decoration theme (settings > window manager)? [16:00] natuzi: it's also very likely that old themes are not compatible anymore === bepstein is now known as superbenny111 [16:03] brainwash: gtk and xfwm [16:04] try another theme [16:04] something less ancient :) [16:05] oh, you could also try to contact the theme creator [16:07] brainwash: yes i'll and what is your theme for xfce? [16:09] natuzi: I usually use Numix, it's a very popular theme and should be installed by default [18:11] @KawaiiUshio: @jason0x21 @xfceofficial How do I set systemwide proxy servers in Xubuntu? i need use socks5 proxy and use .pac file to automaticly control === dzho is now known as joebio === superbenny is now known as bepstein === superbenny is now known as superbenny111 === oasis is now known as Guest84793 === Guest84793 is now known as montagne [23:21] I have a little problem: http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/93954860la.png I don't have the full window [23:29] Ichecked the resolution and some other graphic parameters but the problem still