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MooDoomorning all08:03
SuperMattmorning MooDoo08:33
popeyyo08:36
MooDoophew thought i was all alone then ;)08:37
MooDooor my irc server was broke lol08:38
SuperMattdon't woryr, everything is fine08:42
MooDooSuperMatt: it is no i've fixed my kvm server lol08:42
* MooDoo makes a mental note not to just assume everything will work on it's default settings.08:43
SuperMattidneed >.<08:44
SuperMatt*indeed08:44
SuperMattwell, things will work on default settings, just not the way you want them to08:44
MooDooSuperMatt: had a problem with my vms not being accessible from outside my lan, turns out hyperviser default network cards, don't work :)08:45
SuperMattfor instance, if you install openstack keystone, which is the auth module, it'll by default use an sqlite db. It *works* it's just not scalable08:45
MooDooah well all is good, it's fixed now as you can tell i'm here08:46
MooDooI'm liking the look of this ubuntu phone :D08:56
popeyMooDoo: Me too! :)09:17
MooDoopopey: you have one?  early access?09:18
popeyI have a bq phone.09:19
popeya bunch of us have09:19
popeythink I got mine in August09:19
MooDoonice.....09:19
MooDooah but is it an iphone replacer?09:22
popeydepends what you use an iphone for09:22
zmoylan-pithe ability of my nokia dumbphone to hammer nails is unsurpassed :-)09:26
MooDooat £119 it's a bit of a steal :D09:27
MooDoomake that £12509:28
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Extraterrestrial Culture Day! :-D09:33
MooDoomorning JamesTait you earthling you09:34
zmoylan-piare you sure, have you tested a dna sample? :-)09:35
JamesTaitShhh, zmoylan-pi, I've kept it under wraps since 1947!09:35
MooDoolol09:45
zmoylan-piall those earthlings who belong here raise a tentacle09:46
davmor2Morning all09:58
davmor2JamesTait: what is today dude save me digging through the logs?09:58
JamesTaitMorning, davmor2. Happy Extraterrestrial Culture Day. :)09:59
davmor2JamesTait: Ah Nanoo Nanoo09:59
JamesTaitSecond person to respond that way. ;)10:00
davmor2JamesTait: Live long and prosper10:00
JamesTaitWhy, thank you. :)10:01
zmoylan-pitoday is a good day to die10:01
davmor2zmoylan-pi: great film10:04
MooDoomorning davmor210:34
davmor2MooDoo: you getting the idea behind juju a bit more now dude?10:35
MooDooyeah just need to think about it a little more, seems like i'll need 3 servers, one as the master, and two as the ones that get provisioned, unless i've miss read stuff...it's a mega subject10:36
davmor2MooDoo: yeah but those can be virtual so that isn't a huge issue :)10:38
davmor2MooDoo: you can use juju in conjunction with lxc and I believe kvm10:38
MooDoodavmor2: it's ok i've got 2 dell 1950s which i'm using as kvm hosts10:39
MooDooglustering between the two10:39
davmor2there were dell servers in the 1950's I find that hard to believe have you been read that there T'interwebz again?10:40
MooDoodavmor2: idiot :p10:42
davmor2MooDoo: :D10:42
MooDoojust trying to get my head around this, seems easy using juju deploy wordpress etc10:42
davmor2MooDoo: should I mention you can use landscape too and really fry your head :D10:43
MooDooshush i'm just trying to figure out how it all works, and it's hurting....10:46
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.10:47
MooDoomorning brobostigon10:57
brobostigonmorning MooDoo10:57
popeyhttps://twitter.com/ubuntu/status/565103224265637889 http://www.bq.com/gb/ubuntu.html11:05
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* davmor2 pictures bigcalm huddled over his F5 button tomorrow from 08:55 :)11:23
zmoylan-pibigcalm doesn't have a squirrel army to automate the purchase and which he can command from big chair with white cat in volcano lair?11:24
bigcalm:P11:24
bigcalmI'm not as desperate as you guys make out11:25
zmoylan-piit's only a squirrel division? :-)11:25
davmor2bigcalm: hahahaha11:26
WobboEvolutions 3.12.7 refuses mail. Hangs after a couple mails. Example: there are three emails waiting, after the it received the first one it just keeps waiting for the next one. Any tips problem Any tips to solve this problem?11:27
davmor2Wobbo: I moved over to claws mail because Thunderbird kept breaking on gpg signing and evolution kept doing that there is a bug upstream it is just waiting for a fix,  but in the meantime I can recommend claws as a replacement :)11:29
* zmoylan-pi seconds the use of claws which i use on 1gb netbook with slow processor and it's surprisingly nippy11:30
WobboOh...11:33
zmoylan-pithinking of replacing that netbook with a pi2...11:33
WobboI've been using evolution for about 8 years now so it's hard to switch another clients...11:35
WobboThanks for the info.. I'll just wait until it's fixed... I hope this year. :P11:37
WobboBut, is there a fix?11:46
WobboOr, how to get the latest version? Using a .deb?11:47
bashrcmutt ftw11:50
LaneyWobbo: are you on utopic?11:53
Wobbono11:55
Laneywhere did you get evolution 3.12.7 from?11:56
WobboMy evolution says: 3.12.711:57
WobboBut gnome.org says there is stable 3.12.1111:59
LaneyI mean did you use a ppa or something?12:00
zmoylan-pievolution on my ubuntu is 3.10.412:01
WobboNo, simple the Ubuntu itself.12:01
WobboMmm...12:01
diddledanyeah, 3.12.7 is from utopic12:02
WobboI am using 14.10 64b12:02
diddledanmorning, btw12:04
WobboMorning12:04
WobboI didn't now 14.10 == Utopic Unicorn12:05
WobboI have the same problem with Apple stuff. I like numbers...12:06
Wobbo:P12:06
MooDoo:)12:19
cocoa117anyone know any cli program that generate ubuntu system information, such as hardware and kernel version, disk partition, ip address etc...12:22
MooDoouname, ifconfig, cat /proc/cpuinfo to name but a few12:28
diddledancocoa117, respectively: lshw, lspci and/or lsusb. uname -r. df. ip addr show.12:28
MooDoowhat he said12:28
diddledan/proc/cpuinfo is good too, like MooDoo suggests12:29
diddledanif you want physical layout of the disk partitions then you'll want parted or gparted or the ubuntu "disks"12:30
diddledanor is that "disk partitions"?12:31
diddledanI'm not on ubuntu right now so can't check12:31
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popeydirecthex: you tweeted about updated mono packages for armhf.. are they being pushed to the archives (debian/ubuntu) and if so will they hit 15.04?12:45
directhexpopey: i'm not actively tracking releases inside ubuntu until the debian jessie release freeze ends12:45
popeywhen's that?12:46
directhexgod knows. 15.04 i'd say isn't happening12:50
directhexsee http://richardhartmann.de/blog/posts/2015/02/07-Debian_Release_Critical_Bug_report_for_Week_06/12:51
davmor2JamesTait: if you have to get the phones while they are hot....is that not a bad thing, you don't really want a hot phone surely :D12:52
directhexpopey: someone may opt to pull something into ubuntu (bypassing debian) based on my xamarin packages. but my recommendation given comparative QA periods would be to use the known-good packages in ubuntu already, and people who really want it can try the xamarin repo12:53
popeyok12:53
JamesTaitdavmor2, I suppose it depends why it's hot. :-P12:55
davmor2JamesTait: well I reckon it'll be your code looping repetitively and causing 100% cpu usage obviously ;)12:58
JamesTaitdavmor2, that's why they don't let me anywhere near the client.  I'm bad for battery life. :-P12:58
davmor2JamesTait: hahahahahaha12:59
directhexpopey: QA for debian/ubuntu package releases is months in unstable/testing. QA for mono-project packages is "yay, it builds! SHIP IT!" with lots of iterative rebuilds as needed13:02
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diddledanandrews and arnolds' boss is a trouble maker (in a good way IMO): http://www.revk.uk/2015/02/ofcom-think-they-are-above-law.html13:30
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Laneyhttp://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-31297700 <- can see this out of my window15:53
Laneyruh roh15:53
zmoylan-piso dig a deeper scorpion pit surrounding your house15:54
Laneyroof mounted cannons15:55
zmoylan-piyou'll never get planning permission for altering the skyline15:56
zmoylan-pitechnically the scorpion pit is a goldfish pond15:57
davmor2Laney: laser shooting sharks in the moot16:16
zmoylan-piif we moot the sharks we can't use pew pew pew? :-)16:17
davmor2moat moot mot there all the same to me except the government remind me about the mot ;)16:35
zmoylan-pi*they're :-P16:36
mappsgod damn17:23
Azelphurpopey: you might know something about this, is there any way to do rsnapshot backups but have them encrypted BEFORE they are transmitted?18:00
Azelphureg for storing backups on an untrusted server18:00
popeyI don't know how you'd do that other than have the disk encrypted at both ends18:01
Azelphurpopey: I'd imagine the machine to be backed up (We'll call it my PC) would need to encrypt the file and then send the stuff to the server18:02
Azelphurthus the server has no access to my PC, and only ever gets a bunch of encrypted data18:02
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exobuzzAzelphur, you will need a different backup solution for that18:23
AzelphurI see :<18:23
exobuzzif you have access to the remote machine in regards to running software on it, I can recommend a good replacement - https://attic-backup.org/18:23
exobuzzjust need the software installed at both ends, like rsync - uses ssh. supports encryption18:24
Azelphurexobuzz: yea, basically thinking of just renting a VPS and dropping my backups on it18:24
Azelphuras my required "off-site backup" solution18:24
exobuzzattic is excellent18:24
Azelphurlooks swish18:24
exobuzzI switched most of my old rdiff-backups over to it now18:24
Azelphurexobuzz: will that do the encryption I require?18:25
exobuzzyeh18:26
Azelphurnice18:26
exobuzzit uses a custom repository, so you have to use attic to access/restore files unlike rsnapshot, but has a lot of benefits over mirror + hardlinks like rsnapshot18:28
exobuzzencryption, compression, etc. and will be more efficient than rsnapshot, as it will handle "moved" files. since its de-duplicating18:29
Azelphurvery swish18:29
diddledanis 9am CET 8am or 10am GMT?18:44
diddledanjust wondering whether I can be bothered waking up18:44
daftykinsuse the googles!18:48
AzelphurMy headset is starting to become a meme in my gaming community, the amount of times I've repaired it xD http://game.azelphur.com/forum/topic/121/21:41
popey~/2221:47
popeybah21:47
shaunohm, the spacex launch doesn't look too promising .. again22:04

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