[03:44] <mapps> urgh
[08:03] <MooDoo> morning all
[08:33] <SuperMatt> morning MooDoo
[08:36] <popey> yo
[08:37] <MooDoo> phew thought i was all alone then ;)
[08:38] <MooDoo> or my irc server was broke lol
[08:42] <SuperMatt> don't woryr, everything is fine
[08:42] <MooDoo> SuperMatt: it is no i've fixed my kvm server lol
[08:43]  * MooDoo makes a mental note not to just assume everything will work on it's default settings.
[08:44] <SuperMatt> idneed >.<
[08:44] <SuperMatt> *indeed
[08:44] <SuperMatt> well, things will work on default settings, just not the way you want them to
[08:45] <MooDoo> SuperMatt: had a problem with my vms not being accessible from outside my lan, turns out hyperviser default network cards, don't work :)
[08:45] <SuperMatt> for instance, if you install openstack keystone, which is the auth module, it'll by default use an sqlite db. It *works* it's just not scalable
[08:46] <MooDoo> ah well all is good, it's fixed now as you can tell i'm here
[08:56] <MooDoo> I'm liking the look of this ubuntu phone :D
[09:17] <popey> MooDoo: Me too! :)
[09:18] <MooDoo> popey: you have one?  early access?
[09:19] <popey> I have a bq phone.
[09:19] <popey> a bunch of us have
[09:19] <popey> think I got mine in August
[09:19] <MooDoo> nice.....
[09:22] <MooDoo> ah but is it an iphone replacer?
[09:22] <popey> depends what you use an iphone for
[09:26] <zmoylan-pi> the ability of my nokia dumbphone to hammer nails is unsurpassed :-)
[09:27] <MooDoo> at £119 it's a bit of a steal :D
[09:28] <MooDoo> make that £125
[09:33] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Extraterrestrial Culture Day! :-D
[09:34] <MooDoo> morning JamesTait you earthling you
[09:35] <zmoylan-pi> are you sure, have you tested a dna sample? :-)
[09:35] <JamesTait> Shhh, zmoylan-pi, I've kept it under wraps since 1947!
[09:45] <MooDoo> lol
[09:46] <zmoylan-pi> all those earthlings who belong here raise a tentacle
[09:58] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:58] <davmor2> JamesTait: what is today dude save me digging through the logs?
[09:59] <JamesTait> Morning, davmor2. Happy Extraterrestrial Culture Day. :)
[09:59] <davmor2> JamesTait: Ah Nanoo Nanoo
[10:00] <JamesTait> Second person to respond that way. ;)
[10:00] <davmor2> JamesTait: Live long and prosper
[10:01] <JamesTait> Why, thank you. :)
[10:01] <zmoylan-pi> today is a good day to die
[10:04] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: great film
[10:34] <MooDoo> morning davmor2
[10:35] <davmor2> MooDoo: you getting the idea behind juju a bit more now dude?
[10:36] <MooDoo> yeah just need to think about it a little more, seems like i'll need 3 servers, one as the master, and two as the ones that get provisioned, unless i've miss read stuff...it's a mega subject
[10:38] <davmor2> MooDoo: yeah but those can be virtual so that isn't a huge issue :)
[10:38] <davmor2> MooDoo: you can use juju in conjunction with lxc and I believe kvm
[10:39] <MooDoo> davmor2: it's ok i've got 2 dell 1950s which i'm using as kvm hosts
[10:39] <MooDoo> glustering between the two
[10:40] <davmor2> there were dell servers in the 1950's I find that hard to believe have you been read that there T'interwebz again?
[10:42] <MooDoo> davmor2: idiot :p
[10:42] <davmor2> MooDoo: :D
[10:42] <MooDoo> just trying to get my head around this, seems easy using juju deploy wordpress etc
[10:43] <davmor2> MooDoo: should I mention you can use landscape too and really fry your head :D
[10:46] <MooDoo> shush i'm just trying to figure out how it all works, and it's hurting....
[10:47] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:57] <MooDoo> morning brobostigon
[10:57] <brobostigon> morning MooDoo
[11:05] <popey> https://twitter.com/ubuntu/status/565103224265637889 http://www.bq.com/gb/ubuntu.html
[11:23]  * davmor2 pictures bigcalm huddled over his F5 button tomorrow from 08:55 :)
[11:24] <zmoylan-pi> bigcalm doesn't have a squirrel army to automate the purchase and which he can command from big chair with white cat in volcano lair?
[11:24] <bigcalm> :P
[11:25] <bigcalm> I'm not as desperate as you guys make out
[11:25] <zmoylan-pi> it's only a squirrel division? :-)
[11:26] <davmor2> bigcalm: hahahaha
[11:27] <Wobbo> Evolutions 3.12.7 refuses mail. Hangs after a couple mails. Example: there are three emails waiting, after the it received the first one it just keeps waiting for the next one. Any tips problem Any tips to solve this problem?
[11:29] <davmor2> Wobbo: I moved over to claws mail because Thunderbird kept breaking on gpg signing and evolution kept doing that there is a bug upstream it is just waiting for a fix,  but in the meantime I can recommend claws as a replacement :)
[11:30]  * zmoylan-pi seconds the use of claws which i use on 1gb netbook with slow processor and it's surprisingly nippy
[11:33] <Wobbo> Oh...
[11:33] <zmoylan-pi> thinking of replacing that netbook with a pi2...
[11:35] <Wobbo> I've been using evolution for about 8 years now so it's hard to switch another clients...
[11:37] <Wobbo> Thanks for the info.. I'll just wait until it's fixed... I hope this year. :P
[11:46] <Wobbo> But, is there a fix?
[11:47] <Wobbo> Or, how to get the latest version? Using a .deb?
[11:50] <bashrc> mutt ftw
[11:53] <Laney> Wobbo: are you on utopic?
[11:55] <Wobbo> no
[11:56] <Laney> where did you get evolution 3.12.7 from?
[11:57] <Wobbo> My evolution says: 3.12.7
[11:59] <Wobbo> But gnome.org says there is stable 3.12.11
[12:00] <Laney> I mean did you use a ppa or something?
[12:01] <zmoylan-pi> evolution on my ubuntu is 3.10.4
[12:01] <Wobbo> No, simple the Ubuntu itself.
[12:01] <Wobbo> Mmm...
[12:02] <diddledan> yeah, 3.12.7 is from utopic
[12:02] <Wobbo> I am using 14.10 64b
[12:04] <diddledan> morning, btw
[12:04] <Wobbo> Morning
[12:05] <Wobbo> I didn't now 14.10 == Utopic Unicorn
[12:06] <Wobbo> I have the same problem with Apple stuff. I like numbers...
[12:06] <Wobbo> :P
[12:19] <MooDoo> :)
[12:22] <cocoa117> anyone know any cli program that generate ubuntu system information, such as hardware and kernel version, disk partition, ip address etc...
[12:28] <MooDoo> uname, ifconfig, cat /proc/cpuinfo to name but a few
[12:28] <diddledan> cocoa117, respectively: lshw, lspci and/or lsusb. uname -r. df. ip addr show.
[12:28] <MooDoo> what he said
[12:29] <diddledan> /proc/cpuinfo is good too, like MooDoo suggests
[12:30] <diddledan> if you want physical layout of the disk partitions then you'll want parted or gparted or the ubuntu "disks"
[12:31] <diddledan> or is that "disk partitions"?
[12:31] <diddledan> I'm not on ubuntu right now so can't check
[12:45] <popey> directhex: you tweeted about updated mono packages for armhf.. are they being pushed to the archives (debian/ubuntu) and if so will they hit 15.04?
[12:45] <directhex> popey: i'm not actively tracking releases inside ubuntu until the debian jessie release freeze ends
[12:46] <popey> when's that?
[12:50] <directhex> god knows. 15.04 i'd say isn't happening
[12:51] <directhex> see http://richardhartmann.de/blog/posts/2015/02/07-Debian_Release_Critical_Bug_report_for_Week_06/
[12:52] <davmor2> JamesTait: if you have to get the phones while they are hot....is that not a bad thing, you don't really want a hot phone surely :D
[12:53] <directhex> popey: someone may opt to pull something into ubuntu (bypassing debian) based on my xamarin packages. but my recommendation given comparative QA periods would be to use the known-good packages in ubuntu already, and people who really want it can try the xamarin repo
[12:53] <popey> ok
[12:55] <JamesTait> davmor2, I suppose it depends why it's hot. :-P
[12:58] <davmor2> JamesTait: well I reckon it'll be your code looping repetitively and causing 100% cpu usage obviously ;)
[12:58] <JamesTait> davmor2, that's why they don't let me anywhere near the client.  I'm bad for battery life. :-P
[12:59] <davmor2> JamesTait: hahahahahaha
[13:02] <directhex> popey: QA for debian/ubuntu package releases is months in unstable/testing. QA for mono-project packages is "yay, it builds! SHIP IT!" with lots of iterative rebuilds as needed
[13:30] <diddledan> andrews and arnolds' boss is a trouble maker (in a good way IMO): http://www.revk.uk/2015/02/ofcom-think-they-are-above-law.html
[15:53] <Laney> http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-31297700 <- can see this out of my window
[15:53] <Laney> ruh roh
[15:54] <zmoylan-pi> so dig a deeper scorpion pit surrounding your house
[15:55] <Laney> roof mounted cannons
[15:56] <zmoylan-pi> you'll never get planning permission for altering the skyline
[15:57] <zmoylan-pi> technically the scorpion pit is a goldfish pond
[16:16] <davmor2> Laney: laser shooting sharks in the moot
[16:17] <zmoylan-pi> if we moot the sharks we can't use pew pew pew? :-)
[16:35] <davmor2> moat moot mot there all the same to me except the government remind me about the mot ;)
[16:36] <zmoylan-pi> *they're :-P
[17:23] <mapps> god damn
[18:00] <Azelphur> popey: you might know something about this, is there any way to do rsnapshot backups but have them encrypted BEFORE they are transmitted?
[18:00] <Azelphur> eg for storing backups on an untrusted server
[18:01] <popey> I don't know how you'd do that other than have the disk encrypted at both ends
[18:02] <Azelphur> popey: I'd imagine the machine to be backed up (We'll call it my PC) would need to encrypt the file and then send the stuff to the server
[18:02] <Azelphur> thus the server has no access to my PC, and only ever gets a bunch of encrypted data
[18:23] <exobuzz> Azelphur, you will need a different backup solution for that
[18:23] <Azelphur> I see :<
[18:23] <exobuzz> if you have access to the remote machine in regards to running software on it, I can recommend a good replacement - https://attic-backup.org/
[18:24] <exobuzz> just need the software installed at both ends, like rsync - uses ssh. supports encryption
[18:24] <Azelphur> exobuzz: yea, basically thinking of just renting a VPS and dropping my backups on it
[18:24] <Azelphur> as my required "off-site backup" solution
[18:24] <exobuzz> attic is excellent
[18:24] <Azelphur> looks swish
[18:24] <exobuzz> I switched most of my old rdiff-backups over to it now
[18:25] <Azelphur> exobuzz: will that do the encryption I require?
[18:26] <exobuzz> yeh
[18:26] <Azelphur> nice
[18:28] <exobuzz> it uses a custom repository, so you have to use attic to access/restore files unlike rsnapshot, but has a lot of benefits over mirror + hardlinks like rsnapshot
[18:29] <exobuzz> encryption, compression, etc. and will be more efficient than rsnapshot, as it will handle "moved" files. since its de-duplicating
[18:29] <Azelphur> very swish
[18:44] <diddledan> is 9am CET 8am or 10am GMT?
[18:44] <diddledan> just wondering whether I can be bothered waking up
[18:48] <daftykins> use the googles!
[21:41] <Azelphur> My headset is starting to become a meme in my gaming community, the amount of times I've repaired it xD http://game.azelphur.com/forum/topic/121/
[21:47] <popey> ~/22
[21:47] <popey> bah
[22:04] <shauno> hm, the spacex launch doesn't look too promising .. again