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cmaloneyGod dammit, someone got our card again02:08
rick_h_ouch02:09
rick_h_come on chip and pin, get here already02:09
cmaloneyAnd of course it's someone in Columbus Ohio being an idiot02:20
rick_h_curse those buckeyes!02:25
_stink_cmaloney: that was like 3 weeks ago wasn't it?02:25
cmaloneyYep02:27
cmaloneyAnd apparently this person likes shopping at high class establishments like TJ Maxx, Marshalls, and UDFI02:27
_stink_hah02:28
cmaloneyRacked up over $800 in charges02:28
cmaloneyor rather debited my account $80002:29
cmaloneyAnd what's even better: I tried using my chip-n-pin at Meijer. Didn't work02:29
jrwrenwhat is UDFI?13:21
mrgoodcatmorning13:35
mrgoodcatjrwren: do you mean UEFI?13:35
jrwrenmrgoodcat: no. I mean some store in Columbus at which cmaloney's card number is being used.13:38
mrgoodcatah lol ok nevermind13:39
mrgoodcatoh yea backlog is hard13:39
mrgoodcat5 lines up13:39
mrgoodcatcan't read13:39
rick_h_morning13:42
cmaloneyGood morning14:56
cmaloneyUnited Dairy Farmers INc.14:57
cmaloneyjrwren: ^^14:57
cmaloneyIt's a 7-11 for Ohio14:57
cmaloneyThey briefly had them up here.14:57
cmaloneyiirc14:57
cmaloneyNot up on my party-store wanna-bes14:57
jrwrencmaloney: that sucks. Sorry you got cloned.14:59
cmaloneyYeah, second time.14:59
cmaloneyWorst part is this one is going to be a little more drawn out14:59
cmaloneyBoA called us this morning to let us know. Apparently last night they didn't do everything they needed to do to fix things15:00
cmaloneySad thing is if someone needed a tank of gas that badly I would have given it to them15:00
cmaloneynot so much on the TJ Maxx / Marshalls spree15:01
cmaloneyMostly because we don't have that kind of money to spread around15:01
cmaloneyI feel bad for the person who felt it necessary to commit fraud to get what they want15:01
akellingOnly see United Dairy in the Columbus area15:11
cmaloneyYeah, I thought there was something similar in this area but they were rather short lived.16:07
greg-gg'morn16:22
greg-gcmaloney: I hope everything is taken care of by BoA :/16:23
jrwrenBoA is evil empire!16:23
* jrwren goes and listens to SNOG16:23
greg-g:)16:24
cmaloneyThanks.16:30
cmaloneyThey'll be fine I'm sure16:30
cmaloneyjust annoying16:30
greg-gyeah16:30
greg-gtime and patience I didn't have to give16:31
cmaloneyWell, that's another matter. :)16:41
cmaloneyIt must be six months since lmorchard played with his blog. I'm seeing new entries in my RSS feed. ;)17:02
cmaloneynew old entries.17:02
lmorchardYup17:02
lmorchardOh, well that’s unintended, but I did post a new entry17:03
cmaloneyHeh17:03
lmorchardAnd I also built & published it from a windows machine for the novelty of it17:03
cmaloneySo coffeescript is out eh?17:04
lmorchardLots of folks still using it, but ES6 seems to be the writing on the wall for many things I see around work17:05
cmaloneyThat's cool17:06
lmorchardHelps that we’ve got multiple tools to transpile from ES6 to current JS, toio17:06
cmaloneyheh17:06
cmaloneyif it fixes Javascript so I don't feel like I'm playing Russian Roulette with a simple if statement then I'll be happy.17:07
lmorchardWell, ES6 hasn’t jettisoned braces, so there’s that17:07
cmaloneyThat one doesn't bother me as much17:07
cmaloneyThat's a holdover from C if I'm reading what you're writing correctly.17:08
lmorchardcoffeescript surprised me more than once with block structure in ways python never did17:08
lmorchardbut of course, it’s by and for rubists, and I’ve never been a ruby fan17:08
cmaloneyheh17:08
cmaloneyRuby looks like bad Perl to me.17:08
lmorchardYeah, though I had more fun with perl nerds than ruby nerds :)17:10
cmaloneyGod... watching people in @kivy talk about ad networks on Android18:13
cmaloneyI understand why people do ad-supported versions of software, I just hate the concept18:14
brouschSo many people are too cheap to pay for an app, and many others have no qualms with pirating them18:18
brouschBut ads suck18:18
cmaloneyhttp://www.metalinjection.net/metal-in-the-mainstream/killswitch-engages-adam-d-won-the-price-is-right-today-seriously18:19
jrwrenhttp://teamcoco.com/video/punch-brothers-02-09-1518:19
cmaloneybrousch: Oh I know. I've had this conversation18:19
cmaloneyand I remember ponying up $15+ in 1990s dollars for Palm apps.18:20
jrwrencmaloney: palm was even more heavy handed with taking their cut than apple and google today.18:21
jrwrencmaloney: IIRC it was like 80% went to palm and 20% to app devs18:21
cmaloneyYeah, I never released anything via Palm so I have NFC what their cut was18:22
cmaloneybut $30 for an app was not unheard of18:22
cmaloneyhttp://www.pimlicosoftware.com/datebk3.htm18:22
cmaloneyHoly shit, there's still development18:23
brouschcmaloney: Darn, I was hoping you had a profitable app dev model18:32
brouschThe best I've come up with ad-supported but with the ability to suppress ads via in-app purchase18:32
brouschSuppress them for a time span, not forever18:33
brouschSo you get continuing revenue from the ads or from the suppression18:33
cmaloneyYeah18:50
cmaloneyI don't particularly like that model either. :)18:50
cmaloneyBut it's workable18:50
cmaloneyAlso: https://bookie.io/craig/recent/centos?count=50&page=018:51
cmaloneyNice to see that Ubuntu can install CentOS in a container18:51
brouschI've not actually seen an app using my revenue model18:51
cmaloneyThat's how most of the "Free" versions of my apps on my phone work18:51
cmaloneythough you have to buy the pro version and remove the "free" version18:52
brouschI've only seen free w/ ads version or paid version18:52
cmaloneybut some have freemium models18:52
cmaloneyThe "pay subscription for continued revenue" seems a little douchey to me18:52
brouschShow me one with "turn off ads for 3 months for $0.99"18:53
cmaloneyThat's easy. new version every 3 months. ;)18:53
brouschBut then you lose all of the reviews and the install count18:54
brouschI want a single app with all features enabled. You pay per month to optionally turn off ads.18:55
cmaloneyI want to know how this became my problem to find an app that does this. :)18:56
brouschYou said "cmaloney> That's how most of the "Free" versions of my apps on my phone work"18:57
cmaloneyI meant they have versions where you can turn off ads18:58
cmaloneybut most of them aren't time-based18:58
brouschAh, right, but the time based is the key to making it sustainable18:58
brouschhmmmmm http://onethingwell.org/post/110641585238/juju19:10

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