[02:08] <cmaloney> God dammit, someone got our card again
[02:09] <rick_h_> ouch
[02:09] <rick_h_> come on chip and pin, get here already
[02:20] <cmaloney> And of course it's someone in Columbus Ohio being an idiot
[02:25] <rick_h_> curse those buckeyes!
[02:25] <_stink_> cmaloney: that was like 3 weeks ago wasn't it?
[02:27] <cmaloney> Yep
[02:27] <cmaloney> And apparently this person likes shopping at high class establishments like TJ Maxx, Marshalls, and UDFI
[02:28] <_stink_> hah
[02:28] <cmaloney> Racked up over $800 in charges
[02:29] <cmaloney> or rather debited my account $800
[02:29] <cmaloney> And what's even better: I tried using my chip-n-pin at Meijer. Didn't work
[13:21] <jrwren> what is UDFI?
[13:35] <mrgoodcat> morning
[13:35] <mrgoodcat> jrwren: do you mean UEFI?
[13:38] <jrwren> mrgoodcat: no. I mean some store in Columbus at which cmaloney's card number is being used.
[13:39] <mrgoodcat> ah lol ok nevermind
[13:39] <mrgoodcat> oh yea backlog is hard
[13:39] <mrgoodcat> 5 lines up
[13:39] <mrgoodcat> can't read
[13:42] <rick_h_> morning
[14:56] <cmaloney> Good morning
[14:57] <cmaloney> United Dairy Farmers INc.
[14:57] <cmaloney> jrwren: ^^
[14:57] <cmaloney> It's a 7-11 for Ohio
[14:57] <cmaloney> They briefly had them up here.
[14:57] <cmaloney> iirc
[14:57] <cmaloney> Not up on my party-store wanna-bes
[14:59] <jrwren> cmaloney: that sucks. Sorry you got cloned.
[14:59] <cmaloney> Yeah, second time.
[14:59] <cmaloney> Worst part is this one is going to be a little more drawn out
[15:00] <cmaloney> BoA called us this morning to let us know. Apparently last night they didn't do everything they needed to do to fix things
[15:00] <cmaloney> Sad thing is if someone needed a tank of gas that badly I would have given it to them
[15:01] <cmaloney> not so much on the TJ Maxx / Marshalls spree
[15:01] <cmaloney> Mostly because we don't have that kind of money to spread around
[15:01] <cmaloney> I feel bad for the person who felt it necessary to commit fraud to get what they want
[15:11] <akelling> Only see United Dairy in the Columbus area
[16:07] <cmaloney> Yeah, I thought there was something similar in this area but they were rather short lived.
[16:22] <greg-g> g'morn
[16:23] <greg-g> cmaloney: I hope everything is taken care of by BoA :/
[16:23] <jrwren> BoA is evil empire!
[16:23]  * jrwren goes and listens to SNOG
[16:24] <greg-g> :)
[16:30] <cmaloney> Thanks.
[16:30] <cmaloney> They'll be fine I'm sure
[16:30] <cmaloney> just annoying
[16:30] <greg-g> yeah
[16:31] <greg-g> time and patience I didn't have to give
[16:41] <cmaloney> Well, that's another matter. :)
[17:02] <cmaloney> It must be six months since lmorchard played with his blog. I'm seeing new entries in my RSS feed. ;)
[17:02] <cmaloney> new old entries.
[17:02] <lmorchard> Yup
[17:03] <lmorchard> Oh, well that’s unintended, but I did post a new entry
[17:03] <cmaloney> Heh
[17:03] <lmorchard> And I also built & published it from a windows machine for the novelty of it
[17:04] <cmaloney> So coffeescript is out eh?
[17:05] <lmorchard> Lots of folks still using it, but ES6 seems to be the writing on the wall for many things I see around work
[17:06] <cmaloney> That's cool
[17:06] <lmorchard> Helps that we’ve got multiple tools to transpile from ES6 to current JS, toio
[17:06] <cmaloney> heh
[17:07] <cmaloney> if it fixes Javascript so I don't feel like I'm playing Russian Roulette with a simple if statement then I'll be happy.
[17:07] <lmorchard> Well, ES6 hasn’t jettisoned braces, so there’s that
[17:07] <cmaloney> That one doesn't bother me as much
[17:08] <cmaloney> That's a holdover from C if I'm reading what you're writing correctly.
[17:08] <lmorchard> coffeescript surprised me more than once with block structure in ways python never did
[17:08] <lmorchard> but of course, it’s by and for rubists, and I’ve never been a ruby fan
[17:08] <cmaloney> heh
[17:08] <cmaloney> Ruby looks like bad Perl to me.
[17:10] <lmorchard> Yeah, though I had more fun with perl nerds than ruby nerds :)
[18:13] <cmaloney> God... watching people in @kivy talk about ad networks on Android
[18:14] <cmaloney> I understand why people do ad-supported versions of software, I just hate the concept
[18:18] <brousch> So many people are too cheap to pay for an app, and many others have no qualms with pirating them
[18:18] <brousch> But ads suck
[18:19] <cmaloney> http://www.metalinjection.net/metal-in-the-mainstream/killswitch-engages-adam-d-won-the-price-is-right-today-seriously
[18:19] <jrwren> http://teamcoco.com/video/punch-brothers-02-09-15
[18:19] <cmaloney> brousch: Oh I know. I've had this conversation
[18:20] <cmaloney> and I remember ponying up $15+ in 1990s dollars for Palm apps.
[18:21] <jrwren> cmaloney: palm was even more heavy handed with taking their cut than apple and google today.
[18:21] <jrwren> cmaloney: IIRC it was like 80% went to palm and 20% to app devs
[18:22] <cmaloney> Yeah, I never released anything via Palm so I have NFC what their cut was
[18:22] <cmaloney> but $30 for an app was not unheard of
[18:22] <cmaloney> http://www.pimlicosoftware.com/datebk3.htm
[18:23] <cmaloney> Holy shit, there's still development
[18:32] <brousch> cmaloney: Darn, I was hoping you had a profitable app dev model
[18:32] <brousch> The best I've come up with ad-supported but with the ability to suppress ads via in-app purchase
[18:33] <brousch> Suppress them for a time span, not forever
[18:33] <brousch> So you get continuing revenue from the ads or from the suppression
[18:50] <cmaloney> Yeah
[18:50] <cmaloney> I don't particularly like that model either. :)
[18:50] <cmaloney> But it's workable
[18:51] <cmaloney> Also: https://bookie.io/craig/recent/centos?count=50&page=0
[18:51] <cmaloney> Nice to see that Ubuntu can install CentOS in a container
[18:51] <brousch> I've not actually seen an app using my revenue model
[18:51] <cmaloney> That's how most of the "Free" versions of my apps on my phone work
[18:52] <cmaloney> though you have to buy the pro version and remove the "free" version
[18:52] <brousch> I've only seen free w/ ads version or paid version
[18:52] <cmaloney> but some have freemium models
[18:52] <cmaloney> The "pay subscription for continued revenue" seems a little douchey to me
[18:53] <brousch> Show me one with "turn off ads for 3 months for $0.99"
[18:53] <cmaloney> That's easy. new version every 3 months. ;)
[18:54] <brousch> But then you lose all of the reviews and the install count
[18:55] <brousch> I want a single app with all features enabled. You pay per month to optionally turn off ads.
[18:56] <cmaloney> I want to know how this became my problem to find an app that does this. :)
[18:57] <brousch> You said "cmaloney> That's how most of the "Free" versions of my apps on my phone work"
[18:58] <cmaloney> I meant they have versions where you can turn off ads
[18:58] <cmaloney> but most of them aren't time-based
[18:58] <brousch> Ah, right, but the time based is the key to making it sustainable
[19:10] <brousch> hmmmmm http://onethingwell.org/post/110641585238/juju