[02:08] God dammit, someone got our card again [02:09] ouch [02:09] come on chip and pin, get here already [02:20] And of course it's someone in Columbus Ohio being an idiot [02:25] curse those buckeyes! [02:25] <_stink_> cmaloney: that was like 3 weeks ago wasn't it? [02:27] Yep [02:27] And apparently this person likes shopping at high class establishments like TJ Maxx, Marshalls, and UDFI [02:28] <_stink_> hah [02:28] Racked up over $800 in charges [02:29] or rather debited my account $800 [02:29] And what's even better: I tried using my chip-n-pin at Meijer. Didn't work [13:21] what is UDFI? [13:35] morning [13:35] jrwren: do you mean UEFI? [13:38] mrgoodcat: no. I mean some store in Columbus at which cmaloney's card number is being used. [13:39] ah lol ok nevermind [13:39] oh yea backlog is hard [13:39] 5 lines up [13:39] can't read [13:42] morning [14:56] Good morning [14:57] United Dairy Farmers INc. [14:57] jrwren: ^^ [14:57] It's a 7-11 for Ohio [14:57] They briefly had them up here. [14:57] iirc [14:57] Not up on my party-store wanna-bes [14:59] cmaloney: that sucks. Sorry you got cloned. [14:59] Yeah, second time. [14:59] Worst part is this one is going to be a little more drawn out [15:00] BoA called us this morning to let us know. Apparently last night they didn't do everything they needed to do to fix things [15:00] Sad thing is if someone needed a tank of gas that badly I would have given it to them [15:01] not so much on the TJ Maxx / Marshalls spree [15:01] Mostly because we don't have that kind of money to spread around [15:01] I feel bad for the person who felt it necessary to commit fraud to get what they want [15:11] Only see United Dairy in the Columbus area [16:07] Yeah, I thought there was something similar in this area but they were rather short lived. [16:22] g'morn [16:23] cmaloney: I hope everything is taken care of by BoA :/ [16:23] BoA is evil empire! [16:23] * jrwren goes and listens to SNOG [16:24] :) [16:30] Thanks. [16:30] They'll be fine I'm sure [16:30] just annoying [16:30] yeah [16:31] time and patience I didn't have to give [16:41] Well, that's another matter. :) [17:02] It must be six months since lmorchard played with his blog. I'm seeing new entries in my RSS feed. ;) [17:02] new old entries. [17:02] Yup [17:03] Oh, well that’s unintended, but I did post a new entry [17:03] Heh [17:03] And I also built & published it from a windows machine for the novelty of it [17:04] So coffeescript is out eh? [17:05] Lots of folks still using it, but ES6 seems to be the writing on the wall for many things I see around work [17:06] That's cool [17:06] Helps that we’ve got multiple tools to transpile from ES6 to current JS, toio [17:06] heh [17:07] if it fixes Javascript so I don't feel like I'm playing Russian Roulette with a simple if statement then I'll be happy. [17:07] Well, ES6 hasn’t jettisoned braces, so there’s that [17:07] That one doesn't bother me as much [17:08] That's a holdover from C if I'm reading what you're writing correctly. [17:08] coffeescript surprised me more than once with block structure in ways python never did [17:08] but of course, it’s by and for rubists, and I’ve never been a ruby fan [17:08] heh [17:08] Ruby looks like bad Perl to me. [17:10] Yeah, though I had more fun with perl nerds than ruby nerds :) [18:13] God... watching people in @kivy talk about ad networks on Android [18:14] I understand why people do ad-supported versions of software, I just hate the concept [18:18] So many people are too cheap to pay for an app, and many others have no qualms with pirating them [18:18] But ads suck [18:19] http://www.metalinjection.net/metal-in-the-mainstream/killswitch-engages-adam-d-won-the-price-is-right-today-seriously [18:19] http://teamcoco.com/video/punch-brothers-02-09-15 [18:19] brousch: Oh I know. I've had this conversation [18:20] and I remember ponying up $15+ in 1990s dollars for Palm apps. [18:21] cmaloney: palm was even more heavy handed with taking their cut than apple and google today. [18:21] cmaloney: IIRC it was like 80% went to palm and 20% to app devs [18:22] Yeah, I never released anything via Palm so I have NFC what their cut was [18:22] but $30 for an app was not unheard of [18:22] http://www.pimlicosoftware.com/datebk3.htm [18:23] Holy shit, there's still development [18:32] cmaloney: Darn, I was hoping you had a profitable app dev model [18:32] The best I've come up with ad-supported but with the ability to suppress ads via in-app purchase [18:33] Suppress them for a time span, not forever [18:33] So you get continuing revenue from the ads or from the suppression [18:50] Yeah [18:50] I don't particularly like that model either. :) [18:50] But it's workable [18:51] Also: https://bookie.io/craig/recent/centos?count=50&page=0 [18:51] Nice to see that Ubuntu can install CentOS in a container [18:51] I've not actually seen an app using my revenue model [18:51] That's how most of the "Free" versions of my apps on my phone work [18:52] though you have to buy the pro version and remove the "free" version [18:52] I've only seen free w/ ads version or paid version [18:52] but some have freemium models [18:52] The "pay subscription for continued revenue" seems a little douchey to me [18:53] Show me one with "turn off ads for 3 months for $0.99" [18:53] That's easy. new version every 3 months. ;) [18:54] But then you lose all of the reviews and the install count [18:55] I want a single app with all features enabled. You pay per month to optionally turn off ads. [18:56] I want to know how this became my problem to find an app that does this. :) [18:57] You said "cmaloney> That's how most of the "Free" versions of my apps on my phone work" [18:58] I meant they have versions where you can turn off ads [18:58] but most of them aren't time-based [18:58] Ah, right, but the time based is the key to making it sustainable [19:10] hmmmmm http://onethingwell.org/post/110641585238/juju