[04:53] <Kilos> gremble  wb and morning
[04:54] <Kilos> morning everyone
[05:03] <mazal> More oom
[05:03] <mazal> Bye oom
[05:03] <Kilos> hi mazal  
[05:03] <Kilos> ai! so gou
[05:04] <mazal> Moet updates doen :P
[05:04] <Kilos> ok enjoy
[05:11] <Kilos> wb inetpro  
[05:11] <Kilos> and morning to you
[05:12] <inetpro> hmm 
[05:12] <inetpro> good morning everyone 
[05:33] <Jacques_Stry> Morning
[05:33] <Kilos> hi Jacques_Stry  
[05:49] <Kilos> shutting down makes so much work the next day
[05:50] <Kilos> takes hours to find what i was doing and where i put it 
[05:50] <Kilos> sigh
[06:08] <mazal> Oom het te veel partitions :)
[06:09] <Kilos> lol
[06:10] <mazal> En deesdae kan mens nie meer jou goet aan los nie , dan kom Eksdom en breek alles
[06:10] <Kilos> nee man te veel tabs in browser en te veel goed in home wat oop is en te veel goed vir site bou
[06:10] <Kilos> ja eskom is n groot probleem
[06:12] <Kilos> en tutorials wat ek deur werk as ek dit more oopmaak dan is dit weer by die begin
[06:12] <Kilos> en ander howto goed wat orals weg gesteek is
[06:12] <Kilos> sjoe
[06:13] <mazal> lol
[06:13] <Kilos> en browser met 15 tabs oop
[06:13] <mazal> Watse formaat is dit ? pdf ?
[06:13] <Kilos> ai!
[06:14] <Kilos> nee nuwe ding
[06:14] <Kilos> kombinasie van nikola en bazaar
[06:14] <Kilos> die goed wat ons nuwe site gemaak het
[06:15] <mazal> Wanneer ek so deur tutorials werk dan sit ek altyd die woord "hier" waar ek laaste was. Dan as ek weer oopmaak run ek net 'n find vir daai woord
[06:15] <mazal> Maar dit werk net met docs wat ge-edit kan word
[06:15] <Kilos> sjoe
[06:15] <mazal> Dan delete ek net die woord en gaan weer aan ens.
[06:17] <Kilos> ja maar ek moet anyway oor lees want ek vergeet wat ek gister gelees het
[06:17] <mazal> oi
[06:17] <mazal> Ek vind dit ook die grootste probleem met alles van pc's. Dit wat jy nie elke dag doen nie , en nie elke dag gebruik nie vergeet mens
[06:18] <Kilos> ja
[06:18] <Kilos> maar ek gaan hopelik net een site bou in my leeftyd
[06:19] <Kilos> en die probleem is , dis nie eers my site nie, grrr
[06:19] <mazal> Ek het jare terug my eie web site gehad , het dit geniet , maar dit het te veel werk begin raak om in stand te hou
[06:19] <Kilos> dis die probleem
[06:20] <Kilos> jy het gekyk na ons ubuntu-za site ne?
[06:20] <mazal> Hy moet op datum bly met nuwe goete kort kort , anders raak die besoekers verveeld met hom
[06:20] <Kilos> ek moet presies so site bou vir afrika
[06:20] <mazal> Sjoe
[06:21] <Kilos> daarom gebruik ek die selle "tools" sodat ek die meeste van ons site kan steel
[06:21] <mazal> My ander probleem was die tyd toe ek oorgaan na linux toe , toe kon ek nie 'n web design tool vind wat ek verstaan nie
[06:21] <Kilos> ai!
[06:21] <mazal> Ek kannie code nie , het WYSIWYG tool gebruik vir myne
[06:22] <mazal> En toe los ek maar die web site ding
[06:22] <Kilos> lol
[06:24] <Kilos> ons moet eintlik meer engels gebruik, daar klomp nuwe mense hier wat nie die taal ken nie
[06:24] <mazal> Is daar iemand hier ?
[06:25]  * Kilos apologises to visitors from africa.  one forgets that everyone doesnt understand afrikaans
[06:26] <Kilos> yes 4 visitors from afrika
[06:27] <Kilos> some from kenya where our repos now are
[06:29] <mazal> cool
[06:30]  * mazal continues processing the way too much steel in the chests
[06:39] <Kilos> well i think ive got it to generate a google site map
[06:40] <Kilos> now to work out what the link is for local stuff
[06:40] <Kilos> sjoe
[06:41] <Kilos> was so much easier in the old days when a trunk was something that hung off the front of an elephant
[06:41] <mazal> lol , indeed
[06:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> moo
[06:43] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy  
[06:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'lo
[06:44] <Kilos> wow what did you do? i didnt see a ThatGraemeGuy  has joined
[06:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> I've been using my bouncer again
[06:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> stopped for a while and now using again
[06:45] <Kilos> ah
[06:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> oh, when my adsl was dead for nearly 2 months
[06:46] <ThatGraemeGuy> running on a VM now
[06:46] <Kilos> nice
[06:47] <mazal> Morning ThatGraemeGuy
[06:48] <ThatGraemeGuy> oh hai
[06:48] <mazal> ThatGraemeGuy: Any suggestions of what to do with way too much iron ?
[06:49] <mazal> Been creating carbon , stainless and brass , but still have a ton left
[06:49] <Kilos> what are you doing mazal  ?
[06:50] <mazal> Minetest oom
[06:50] <Kilos> oh minetest
[06:50] <Kilos> hahaha
[06:50] <ThatGraemeGuy> build an iron castle?
[06:50] <mazal> hmm , think I must do that
[06:50] <ThatGraemeGuy> I suck at building, don't ask me :)
[06:50] <ThatGraemeGuy> I haven't even finished my house
[06:50] <mazal> Iron and tin chests are overflowing
[06:50] <ThatGraemeGuy> tons of stainless steel, lots of nuclear reactors
[06:51] <mazal> But can't stop the quarries as I still need a ton of talinite for a building I am busy with
[06:51] <ThatGraemeGuy> you can always discard the stuff you don't want
[06:51] <ThatGraemeGuy> i discard cobble gravel kalite arol
[06:51] <ThatGraemeGuy> too much of that stuff, not enough use
[06:51] <mazal> Will the stuff that drop next to the chest discard by itself upon server restart ?
[06:52] <ThatGraemeGuy> you can only eat so much kalite
[06:52] <ThatGraemeGuy> its better to use a trash can, having entities just pile up like that wastes memory
[06:52] <mazal> Cos I don't have enough space in the discard filter to add more stuff there
[06:52] <mazal> Trash can ?
[06:52] <Jacques_Stry> Was catching up and confused for a while - so you guys playing minetest?
[06:52] <ThatGraemeGuy> trash can
[06:53] <mazal> Don't know about that
[06:53] <mazal> Must learn about that
[06:53] <Kilos> lol ya Jacques_Stry  
[06:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> pffft and you call yourself a quarry engineer :P
[06:53] <mazal> lol
[06:53] <mazal> I wouldn't call myself that
[06:53] <Jacques_Stry> have been playing minecraft for a long time - I gues minetest allot of the same?
[06:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> Jacques_Stry: we have a local server too but that's pretty much a ghost town now
[06:54] <ThatGraemeGuy> similar concept yes
[06:54] <ThatGraemeGuy> I haven't played minecraft myself
[06:54] <mazal> Part of pipeworks or technic ThatGraemeGuy ?
[06:54] <ThatGraemeGuy> mmmmmmm
[06:54] <ThatGraemeGuy> i think pipeworks
[06:54] <ThatGraemeGuy> search the craft guide for 'trash'
[06:54] <ThatGraemeGuy> its a white/grey striped box
[06:55] <mazal> Found it , pipewroks
[06:55] <Kilos> Jacques_Stry  minetest is free
[06:55] <mazal> pipeworks even
[06:55] <Kilos> only data use kills 3g users pockets
[06:55] <mazal> So I send my discard filter to that via tube yes ?
[06:55] <Jacques_Stry> I'll check it out later when i'm at home - got 4mb uncapped so whatever
[06:55] <ThatGraemeGuy> i usually set up 2 or 3 chests around my quarrying and teleport all the quarry outputs there
[06:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> via a sorter that throws the junk into a trash can
[06:56] <mazal> I have the same kind of setup , put the junk just outputs into a big hole
[06:56]  * Kilos loves that game
[06:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah that kinda works but if you were doing that on a public server you'd get a smack
[06:56] <Kilos> ThatGraemeGuy  please give Jacques_Stry  the link to our game
[06:57] <ThatGraemeGuy> maybe a ban depending whose server it is
[06:57] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos nobody plays on our server
[06:57] <mazal> I'm gonna defnitely test out that trash can ta
[06:57] <Kilos> he can look what we have done there
[06:57] <ThatGraemeGuy> i logged on to the server last week and it wasn't even running, i don't know for how long
[06:57] <Kilos> ai!
[06:57] <mazal> My biggest problem is that the sorting tube doesn't have enough space to configure all the junk
[06:58] <mazal> Unless I split up and let each quarry goes to his own system
[06:58] <Jacques_Stry> What version you guys running?
[06:58] <Kilos> it goois into trash mazal  an then its gone
[06:58] <ThatGraemeGuy> use a second branch
[06:59] <ThatGraemeGuy> Jacques_Stry: I compile the source from github, the packaged versions are typically too old
[06:59] <Jacques_Stry> k Wil do
[06:59] <mazal> Nee oom , what I mean is , the filter only have space to specify 6 things ( if memory is correct ) but I have like 12 junks , so can't specify all
[06:59] <ThatGraemeGuy> Jacques_Stry: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=3837
[06:59] <ThatGraemeGuy> mazal: are you talking about a sorting tube?
[06:59] <mazal> ThatGraemeGuy: yep
[06:59] <ThatGraemeGuy> add a second trash can on another branch
[06:59] <Kilos> oh add more chests and trash cans and split things up 
[07:00] <mazal> ThatGraemeGuy: Gonna look into that defnitely thanx
[07:00] <mazal> Will see if I get it right
[07:00] <mazal> oh no !!! Bullfight !!! Gotta run for now !!!
[07:17] <mazal> ThatGraemeGuy: So just tube to trash can , that's it ?
[07:18] <mazal> From any side ?
[07:18] <Kilos> lol
[07:18] <Kilos> i did it on top i think
[07:20] <Kilos> you can set the tubes to only pass certain things
[07:21] <mazal> Now how in the world am I going to remember to tell bduk to do this as well.
[07:21] <mazal> Will only see him in two weeks
[07:21] <Kilos> ljust let him look by you
[07:22] <mazal> Because he also have a junk exhaust that goes just to a hole
[07:22] <mazal> uhm...
[07:22] <mazal> maaz , tell bduk Vra vir wikus oor die trash can , baie belangrik
[07:22] <Maaz> mazal: Okay, I'll tell bduk on freenode
[07:23] <Kilos> and make a gold chest to lock up used uranium 
[07:23] <mazal> All my chests are gold
[07:23] <Kilos> dont want you getting sick
[07:23] <mazal> Well , almost all
[07:24] <mazal> And backup plan , going to go put a sign at his place to contact me
[07:24] <Kilos> should never be able to fill it but if you do go drop it in a deep lake or sea
[07:27] <mazal> Uranium haven't hurt me yet
[07:27] <mazal> Only the Reactor itself as soon as I load fuel rods
[07:27] <Kilos> lol ya
[07:27] <mazal> Fortunately I can fly very quick lol
[07:27] <Kilos> disconnect the output cable when charging
[07:28] <Kilos> i got killed lots
[07:28] <mazal> I just fly away quickly when that last rod goes in
[07:29] <Squirm-> Morning
[07:29] <mazal> Morning Squirm
[07:30] <Kilos> hi Squirm-  
[07:32] <Kilos> http://mybroadband.co.za/news/security/118471-dont-talk-in-front-of-your-smart-tv-it-may-be-listening.html
[07:32] <Kilos> where is it going to end
[07:38] <mazal> lol , I'm so glad I will never be able to afford all these "smart" stuff
[07:39] <Kilos> yeah
[07:39] <Squirm> Kilos: yeah, I read that :P
[07:39] <Squirm> mazal: same here
[07:39] <Squirm> though, if I think it's worth it, I'll save
[07:40] <Squirm> but tbh, I'd rather buy a bigger TV vs. a smaller smart TV
[07:40] <Squirm> My RPi makes any TV smart enough
[07:40] <Kilos> sjoe imagine having to be careful of what you say because the tv is listening
[07:40] <Squirm> lol
[07:41] <Squirm> No thanks
[07:41] <Squirm> and it's only if you have Voice Recognition on
[07:41] <highvoltage> that's been the case of almost every smart tv made so far
[07:41] <Squirm> hey highvoltage
[07:41] <highvoltage> hey Squirm 
[07:41] <Kilos> lo highvoltage  
[07:42] <Kilos> i see they have even found a workaround to tor
[08:00] <charl> good morning
[08:00] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[08:00]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[08:00] <Kilos> hi charl  
[08:00] <Kilos> Maaz  coffee please
[08:00] <Maaz> Kilos: Yessir
[08:00] <charl> hi Kilos
[08:01] <Kilos> ha the bot knows i been knighted
[08:01] <charl> lol
[08:04] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos!
[08:09] <Kilos> Maaz  thanks man
[08:09] <Maaz> Kilos It gives me great pleasure to serve a bunch of geeks :-)
[08:13] <charl> Maaz: danke
[08:13] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[08:54] <Jacques_Stry> Was checking Ubuntu for phones again, looks better than I expected.
[08:54] <Jacques_Stry> Would be nice if I could test it on one of my devices
[08:55] <Jacques_Stry> But I checked, all of my devices have major problems with the development builds
[08:56] <Kilos> eish that sucks
[09:10]  * Kilos waves to the fly
[09:12] <Kilos> hi Kerbero  
[09:12] <Kerbero> More oom kilos
[09:12] <Kilos> gaanit?
[09:13] <Kerbero> Kan nie kla nie. Baie werk soos altyd. En daar?
[09:13] <Kilos> goed dankie
[09:13] <superfly> aloha
[09:13] <Trixar_za> Oh hey Kilos, Kerbero and superfly
[09:13] <Kilos> my kde is like an aquarium
[09:14] <Kilos> doldhins all over
[09:14] <superfly> sup Trixar_za
[09:14] <Kilos> hi Trixar_za  
[09:14] <Kilos> dolphins too
[09:14] <Trixar_za> I would have gone with 'gives you a sinking feeling' :P
[09:15] <Kilos> nana kde be kiff
[09:15] <Trixar_za> I can agree with that.
[09:16] <Trixar_za> I'm a lightness junky though :P
[09:16] <Trixar_za> Have to say RazorQt is a pretty nice KDE alternative written in Qt
[09:20] <Trixar_za> If I was going the lightweight linux dev route, I'd probably use Qt over GTK and use RazorQt as my DE. It fixes so much :|
[09:21] <Trixar_za> Also: http://www.qupzilla.com/
[09:24] <Trixar_za> There's also QtWeb, VLC and KvIRC that works natively :P
[09:25] <Trixar_za> <3 Qt
[09:28] <not_found> *yawn*
[09:38] <Kilos> actually with a ssd aw where did neelsie go now
[09:38] <Kilos> not_found  hihi
[09:39] <Kilos> sjoe i got a call while typing here so got mixed up on return
[09:41] <Kilos> started saying with an ssd kde should be fine
[09:41] <superfly> Trixar_za: LXQt
[09:41] <not_found> o/
[09:42] <superfly> Trixar_za: RazorQt is no more, AFAIK, it's merged with LXDE to form LXQt
[09:42] <superfly> hi not_found
[09:42] <not_found> how are our latest ubu members doing today? :)
[09:42] <Kilos> lol we good just tired
[09:42] <Kilos> too many late nights
[09:43] <Trixar_za> I really can't keep up with these changes
[09:43] <Trixar_za> :P
[09:43] <Kilos> note number of nicks here not_found  
[09:43] <Kilos> Trixar_za  now imagine how i feel
[09:43] <superfly> http://lxqt.org/
[09:44] <Kilos> 1 change every two years is my speed
[09:44] <Kilos> that page is slow superfly  
[09:45] <Kilos> Unable to load the webpage because the server sent no data.
[09:45] <Kilos> there fixd now
[09:45] <not_found> nice to see a pickup in peeps here
[09:45] <Kilos> fixxed
[09:46] <Kilos> superfly  can i install lxqt here or is it not wise?
[09:48] <not_found> I don't know how stable it is currently... if you want lighter I am sure that razor-qt is still more stable
[09:48] <Kilos> na maybe ill stay here
[09:48] <Kilos> everything is stable and unbreakable
[09:49] <Kilos> not_found  you been gone so long i dont know how up to date you are on recent happenings
[09:50] <not_found> only been a few days :p
[09:50] <Kilos> you can login to #ubuntu-africa and read the links in the topic bar
[09:50] <Kilos> are you sure? feels like weeks you been gone
[09:51] <not_found> not_found = nlsthzn
[09:51] <not_found> remember :p
[09:51] <Kilos> yaya
[09:51] <not_found> lol
[09:52] <not_found> always lurking but been a bit more quiet than normal... wife very pregnant and now playing the waiting game
[09:52] <Kilos> im too buried in nikola nad bzr to remember if i had coffee this morning
[09:52] <not_found> nice
[09:52] <not_found> best way to learn :)
[09:52] <Kilos> oh ya its soon hey
[09:53] <not_found> any minute... or next week :/
[09:53] <Kilos> nono im stuck now so resting
[09:53] <Kilos> whew good luck
[09:53] <Kilos> tell mommy vasbyt
[09:53] <Kilos> hi Neo31`  
[09:57] <not_found> thanks uncle Kilos , will tell her
[09:57] <Neo31`> hi ther eki
[09:57] <Neo31`> Kilos, 
[10:32] <Padroni> Hi Hi
[10:32] <Kilos> hi Padroni  
[10:33] <Padroni> how are you?
[10:33] <Kilos> tired ty and you?
[10:33] <Kilos> hehe
[10:33] <Padroni> tired
[10:34] <Padroni> slept 3.5 hours
[10:34] <Padroni> i am in zombie mode atm
[10:34] <Kilos> didnt you sleep till now
[10:34] <Kilos> ouch
[10:34] <Padroni> went to bed 2H30
[10:35] <Padroni> was up at 6
[10:35] <Padroni> gotta make my kids lunch for school
[10:35] <Kilos> why up so early?
[10:35] <Kilos> oh my
[10:35] <Kilos> how old are they
[10:36] <Padroni> 8 & 10
[10:36] <Kilos> sjoe
[10:36] <Padroni> got a 4 month old baby as well
[10:36] <Kilos> doesnt end my man, mine is near 40 and when he visits its a mission to get him to make the food
[10:37] <Kilos> nice
[10:37] <Padroni> hehe
[10:37] <Kilos> but im lucky , sometimes he brings a bucket of kentucky then i get to pig out
[10:37] <Padroni> Need to draw up some plans for a cold room for my brewery
[10:38] <Padroni> need to get my beer fermenting at a lower temperature...
[10:38] <Kilos> look at small containers with fridge unit on
[10:38] <Kilos> there should be for sale by now
[10:40] <Padroni> dude even a crappy 20 foot container is minimum R8k
[10:40] <Padroni> plus R2k to get it delivered to your house
[10:40] <Padroni> I don't have that to spend on a container - although I would LOVE one
[10:41] <Kilos> wow
[10:41] <Kilos> im out of touch with everything except pc part prices
[10:46] <Padroni> brb
[10:46] <Padroni> gotta go do something about these damn ants
[10:46] <Kilos> lol
[11:26] <inetpro> Yikes!!!
[11:27] <inetpro> Kilos, superfly: did you see the news?
[11:27] <inetpro> you guys are famous
[11:27] <inetpro> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue403
[11:29] <inetpro> and 
[11:29]  * inetpro 's announcement even got noticed
[11:29] <mazal> I saw it :)
[11:30] <inetpro> \o/
[11:34] <superfly> "famous"
[11:34] <superfly> who even reads that? :-P
[11:43] <Jacques_Stry> haha
[11:52] <Jacques_Stry> Welcome
[11:54] <Jacques_Stry> wiki.ubuntu sooooo slow atm
[12:49] <Kilos> ty Jacques_Stry  
[12:49] <Kilos> hi drussell  
[12:49] <drussell> Kilos: howdy
[13:25] <Jacques_Stry> If you want a extra 2gb of google drive storage in the name of Safer Internet Day: http://goo.gl/ccgyV0
[14:04] <Kilos> wb inetpro  
[14:04] <inetpro> ai!
[14:06] <inetpro> ty Kilos, that was just a fat finger mistake
[14:07] <inetpro> pressed the darn disconnect button by accident
[14:09] <Squirm> 'lo
[14:09] <Squirm> Maybe someone here can help me. Can a 100mb Singlemode fibre module connect to 1Gbit Singlemode module?
[14:33] <Kilos> lol
[14:36] <Kilos> never mind  inetpro   we all get old sooner or later
[14:44] <inetpro> ai!
[14:52] <charl> good afternoon gentlemen
[14:53] <charl> does anyone have any experience managing agile development teams using atlassian jira
[14:54] <Kilos> hi charl  
[14:54] <charl> hi Kilos 
[14:55] <charl> hi mazal 
[14:56] <mazal> hi charl
[15:38] <magespawn> good evening
[15:38] <Kilos> hi my magespawn  
[15:39] <charl> hi magespawn 
[15:39] <charl> how are you
[15:41] <magespawn> hi charl, good and you?
[15:41] <charl> good good
[15:44] <magespawn> having and making money
[15:44] <magespawn> sorry
[15:44] <magespawn> having fun and making money
[15:44] <magespawn> viloent femmes
[15:45] <magespawn> man where is the yping
[15:45] <magespawn> typing
[15:45] <magespawn> violent femmes
[15:46] <Kilos> making money how magespawn  
[15:47] <Kilos> letting birds beat you up?
[15:48] <magespawn> err, no, just working
[15:48] <Kilos> lol
[16:00] <mazal> Must be lekke when making money is fun :)
[16:00] <mazal> Hi magespawn
[16:00] <Kilos> lol
[16:00] <magespawn> hi mazal
[16:01] <magespawn> i have resolved to have fun no matter what
[16:01] <Kilos> thats a good motto
[16:01]  * mazal waits for Kilos to ask the question
[16:01] <Kilos> enjoy everything
[16:01] <Kilos> what question?
[16:01] <mazal> Wat maak jy hier in die aand
[16:02] <magespawn> kaas en vetkoek
[16:02] <Kilos> lol i saw that just now and thought you must be gaming and need advice
[16:03] <mazal> Ah man !! magespawn don't say vetkoek around me :P
[16:03] <Kilos> im working hard on the whole bzr and the other thing
[16:04] <Kilos> nikola
[16:04] <mazal> Kilos: Close enough. I been battling with something on my minetest and the minetest guys helped me , so I had to start my server on my main pc and my laptop to connect to it and now I'm popping in while waiting for food to get cooked
[16:04] <Kilos> lol
[16:05] <Kilos> i may be stupid but im not a fool
[16:05] <mazal> And keeping an eye on server to see if fix works
[16:05] <mazal> Wish I could run it permanent like this though , is nice
[16:06] <mazal> But there is that little thing called "gaming on Win pc" that prevents that
[16:07] <mazal> my food is ready , l8tr all
[16:13] <magespawn> get two computers
[16:14] <magespawn> busy doing a release upgrade on ubuntu server running on a laptop
[16:15] <Kilos> sjoe
[16:15] <Kilos> using ssh?
[16:15] <Kilos> or built in gui
[16:15] <magespawn> no i have the actual pc in front of me
[16:16] <magespawn> also upgrading my kali linux laptop
[16:21] <magespawn> straight from the cli Kilos 
[16:22] <Kilos> aha
[16:24] <magespawn> no need to ssh just because you can, besides this looks more impressive, and there are people to impress around here at the moment
[16:24] <Kilos> lol
[16:34] <mazal> Daarsy , stomach full and dishes washed , now I can play :)
[16:37] <magespawn> i always seem to play before i eat
[16:45] <mazal> If I do that I forget to eat
[16:45] <Kilos> lol
[16:55] <Kilos> ohi superfly  
[16:56] <superfly> Hi. LOADSHEDDING ALERT... 
[16:56] <Kilos> eish
[16:56] <mazal> Ag nee hell
[16:56] <inetpro> ai! 
[16:56] <superfly> Err, thanks autocorrect
[16:57] <Kilos> vloek them man we need you
[16:59] <Kilos> i go eat
[17:04] <magespawn> indeed mazal indeed
[17:04] <mazal> gtg , bye everyone
[17:04] <magespawn> on that note...
[17:19] <Kilos> ok tummy full
[17:29] <Kilos> sjoe 18/36°tonight/tomorrow
[18:06] <gremble> o/
[18:07] <stickyboy> New version of nginx mainline. Go go go!
[18:07] <Kilos> hi gremble  stickyboy  
[18:08] <Kilos> stickyboy  find me more peeps for ubuntu-africa in between al your other stuff
[18:09] <Kilos> hi SDCDev  sorry im so slow
[18:09] <Kilos> floundering in nikola and bzr
[18:09] <gremble> Ok, I am bouncing again. I need desk space
[18:09] <gremble> Cheers guys
[18:10] <stickyboy> Kilos: Always. :)
[18:10] <Kilos> ai1 gremble  
[18:11] <Kilos> good man sticky find the ethiopians too
[18:11] <Kilos> your buddy seems to have gone to sleep
[18:17] <stickyboy> Kilos: Yah, and I even emailed the Ethiopian guy but he didn't respond.
[18:17] <stickyboy> He's pretty active on GitHub, maybe I'll stalk him.
[18:17] <Kilos> lol good idea
[18:18] <Kilos> he said he would pull in eastern africa for us
[18:18] <Kilos> maybe he is so busy he forgot
[18:19] <stickyboy> Maybe
[18:19] <Kilos> he did contactme
[18:19] <stickyboy> He's a good guy, we definitely want him involved.
[18:19] <Kilos> maybe he just needs a push
[18:19] <Kilos> you are the man for the job
[18:43] <captine> evening all
[18:43] <Kilos> hi captine  
[18:44] <inetpro> hello captine 
[18:46] <Kilos> hi Tonberry  
[18:46] <Tonberry> hi
[18:46] <inetpro> hello Tonberry 
[18:52] <stickyboy> Where is magespawn?
[18:52] <stickyboy> Or wait, who was it who did ubuntu-za.org?
[18:53] <Kilos> that was the fly but he has no power atm
[18:54] <magespawn> i am here just had dinner
[18:54] <Kilos> stickyboy  why dont you like it?
[18:57] <Kilos> magespawn  rev up your bzr and nikloa
[18:57] <Kilos> nikola
[18:59] <captine> night all.  
[18:59] <captine> sorry... not chatting much tonight
[19:00] <Kilos> sjoe night capsleep tight
[19:00] <Kilos> ai!
[19:00] <superfly> stickyboy: me
[19:03] <magespawn> i am also off to bed, good night all
[19:04] <Kilos> night magespawn  
[19:04] <Kilos> sleep tight
[19:05] <stickyboy> superfly: Props for supporting AES-GCM-128.
[19:05] <stickyboy> Is that whole site static HTML?
[19:06] <superfly> yep
[19:08] <ThatGraemeGuy> moo
[19:08] <Kilos> haha hi ThatGraemeGuy  
[19:11] <ThatGraemeGuy> lo :)
[19:12] <stickyboy> superfly: $ siege -d1 -t1M -c50 https://ubuntu-za.org
[19:12] <stickyboy> :D
[19:12] <stickyboy> See how well the server holds up. :)
[19:13] <superfly> stickyboy: I must confess it is not my server. I'm just the guy in charge of making it all pretty.
[19:16] <stickyboy> Ah. :)
[19:28] <Kilos> hi clr  
[19:28] <clr> I ask you again, don't you sleep?
[19:28] <clr> how are youi
[19:29] <Kilos> ya man i sleep all the time
[19:29] <clr> anything interesting happening around here?
[19:29] <clr> hehe
[19:29] <clr> I'm about to go to bed, thought I'd check in
[19:29] <Kilos> lol 
[19:29] <Kilos> im surrounded by old peeps
[19:30] <Kilos> ty for checking in first though
[19:30] <Kilos> sleep tight
[19:30] <clr> who are they?
[19:30] <Kilos> everyone thats in bed before me
[19:31] <clr> haha, my normal bed time is about 12 but tonight I am a bit tired.
[19:31] <Kilos> but i understand family men with small kids
[19:31] <Kilos> np clr  go sleep lad
[19:32] <clr> oh, kid is asleep already
[19:32] <Kilos> oh not a keep you up all night one
[19:32] <Kilos> you lucky
[19:33] <clr> hehe no he is gr7 already
[19:33] <Kilos> yay
[19:33] <Kilos> so you are also a ballie then
[19:34] <clr> yea, my 30th matric reunion this year
[19:34] <clr> eish
[19:34] <Kilos> wow
[19:34] <Kilos> you older than me even
[19:34] <Kilos> oh maybe not
[19:34] <clr> I thought you're retired
[19:35] <Kilos> forced
[19:35] <Kilos> because of head injury
[19:35] <Kilos> left my brains on a farm
[19:35] <clr> yo
[19:35] <Kilos> haha
[19:35] <clr> sounds serious
[19:35] <Kilos> it was but im getting better 
[19:36] <Kilos> ask the guys how stupid i was when i joined here
[19:36] <clr> good to hear
[19:36] <Kilos> hehe
[19:36] <clr> sho, bike accident?
[19:37] <Kilos> no windmill bashed my head open
[19:37] <Kilos> from above left eye to behing left ear
[19:38] <Kilos> but a reboot in icu got things going again
[19:38] <Kilos> so you are nearly 50
[19:38] <Kilos> sjoe ballie
[19:39] <clr> haha youre only as old as the woman you feel
[19:39] <Kilos> lol
[19:39] <Kilos> my maric reunion would be my 47th one
[19:39] <Kilos> matric
[19:40] <Kilos> sjoe go to bed you making me feel old
[19:41] <clr> haha, my wife busy distracting me here
[19:41] <Kilos> haha go
[19:41] <clr> I'll have to sign off
[19:41] <clr> cheers
[19:42] <Kilos> cheers
[19:42] <Kilos> aw numbers dropping again
[19:43] <Kilos> superfly  after going right through the bzr thing can one start over. mine doesnt work
[19:44] <superfly> Maaz: it doesn't work
[19:44] <Maaz> Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing.
[19:44] <Kilos> lol
[19:44] <Kilos> it doesnt open a webpage man
[19:44] <Kilos> but it gave a site addy
[19:45] <Kilos> something like this
[19:45] <Kilos> http://127.0.0.1:8000/`_
[19:46] <Kilos> then i tried more bzr and more nikola, now totally lost
[19:46] <Kilos> you read what david said im the greeter bot
[19:51] <Kilos> haha it wants more money
[19:54] <inetpro> Kilos: give us a Screenshot 
[19:54] <Kilos> of which workspace
[19:54] <Kilos> i have konsoles and browsers
[19:54] <inetpro> of it
[19:55] <Kilos> man it is all over
[19:55] <Kilos> one terminal has nikola running
[19:55] <Kilos> another has bzr stuff
[19:55] <inetpro> Maaz: it
[19:55] <Maaz> inetpro: it is Saturday
[19:55] <Kilos> lol
[19:57] <Kilos> you so cheeky
[19:59] <Kilos> go sleep inetpro  
[19:59] <superfly> Kilos: I see nothing wrong with nikola's output
[19:59] <Kilos> oh my where did you see that?
 but it gave a site addy
 something like this
 http://127.0.0.1:8000/
[20:01] <Kilos> ya but , isnt that suppose to open something or must i point it to the local goody
[20:01] <Kilos> that i dont know how to do you had lotsa studd on yours before the http://bit
[20:01] <Kilos> stuff
[20:04] <inetpro> the secret is to keep your hand relaxed on the mouse as you move it to the link above and then press the left button 
[20:05] <Kilos> hahaha il try that
[20:05] <superfly> Kilos: read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_resource_locator
[20:05] <Kilos> ok
[20:05] <superfly> Kilos: then read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Localhost
[20:05] <Kilos> ai!
[20:05] <Kilos> ai!
[20:07] <stickyboy> GPL FTW
[20:07] <stickyboy> Let's get tattoos.
[20:07] <superfly> good night everyone
[20:07] <superfly> stickyboy: no thanks, I don't do tattoos.
[20:07] <Kilos> night superfly  sleep tight
[20:07] <Kilos> ty
[20:08] <inetpro> good night superfly 
[20:08] <Kilos> drawings and paintings belong on paper walls and canvasses not on ones body
[20:09] <inetpro> Kilos: does it make sense, can you open the link in your browser? 
[20:09] <Kilos> the first time i saw a google page with why that link didnt work for peeps
[20:09] <Kilos> last time said error 404 i think
[20:10] <Kilos> oh now i see other stuffs
[20:10] <inetpro> ai! 
[20:11] <inetpro> how difficult was that? 
[20:11] <Kilos> was easy
[20:11] <Kilos> but why did it work now
[20:12] <inetpro> you please tell me 
[20:14] <Kilos> http://picpaste.com/site3-exngxmyy.png
[20:14] <Kilos> i have no idea except that i did it gently this time
[20:14] <Kilos> lol
[20:14] <Kilos> you did something
[20:14]  * Kilos getting excited now
[20:15] <inetpro> ai! 
[20:15] <Kilos> im sure everything is gonna be upside down or something
[20:15] <Kilos> what ai!
[20:15] <Kilos> does it look wrong
[20:22] <Kilos> so before i get deeper into this local host thing, how do i make the http an https
[20:27] <Kilos> oh wow must i nano /var/www/html/index.html
[20:28] <Kilos> and replace the whole file with what is shown in the browser if you open local host
[20:28] <inetpro> Kilos: you are clearly missing the point 
[20:28] <Kilos> as always
[20:30] <Kilos> dont you have to configure anything?
[20:37] <inetpro> point 1. clearly your site is broken
[20:37] <inetpro> Kilos ^^
[20:38] <Kilos> ai!
[20:38] <Kilos> inetpro  fix it
[20:39] <Kilos> maybe it needs to be pushed or pulled or merged or something
[20:40] <inetpro> no 
[20:40] <Kilos> this is beyond me man
[20:40] <Kilos> no what?
[20:40] <Kilos> grrr
[20:40] <inetpro> try again
[20:40] <Kilos> try what?
[20:41] <Kilos> start from scratch?
[20:41] <Kilos> delete all existing stuff first?
[20:41] <inetpro> yep, but this time, try to understand 
[20:41] <Kilos> lol im gonna hit you
[20:41] <inetpro> you need to understand every step of the tutorial 
[20:42] <Kilos> ai! my goosie
[20:42] <Kilos> thats like asking you to overhaul an automatics cars gearbox
[20:43] <inetpro> no 
[20:43] <Kilos> i will start again but dont know how to delete whats not in my pc
[20:44] <inetpro> forget about that for now 
[20:44] <Kilos> you must use this force them to think for themselves with normal geeks man
[20:44] <Kilos> you need to go sleep my friend
[20:45] <inetpro> and don't do the push parts or any editing before having nikola up with the current site look and feel on your local host 
[20:46] <Kilos> ill try
[20:49] <inetpro> Kilos: skip " Branching, Pushing, Proposing and Merging" 
[20:50] <Kilos> how far do i go with nikola before starting with bzr
[20:51] <Kilos> wb SDCDev  
[20:51] <inetpro> no, you start with bzr 
[20:51] <Kilos> oh
[20:52] <Kilos> see nowhere was that info
[20:52] <Kilos> i think
[20:52] <inetpro> ai! 
[20:53] <SDCDev> ty Kilos :)
[20:55] <inetpro> Kilos: did you not read my email? 
[20:56] <Kilos> nope
[20:56] <inetpro> See the getting involved page under the Web Site heading about how to;
[20:56] <Kilos> got no mail from you
[20:57] <inetpro> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-za/2015-February/011524.html
[20:57] <Kilos> ty
[21:00] <Kilos> oh ya thats the tutorial i have been using
[21:02] <Kilos> but maybe starting with nikola was the prob cause
[21:03] <Kilos> one last thing please
[21:03] <Kilos>  mkdir ~/Projects
[21:04] <Kilos> i have made that . what is the remove command for up there in the sky
[21:04] <Kilos> rm?
[21:04] <Kilos> thats where all the wrong stuff is now
[21:05] <Kilos> also i need to put in ubuntu-africa where the tutorial uses ubuntu-za right?
[21:07] <inetpro> forget about Africa 
[21:07] <inetpro> for now at least 
[21:07] <Kilos> oh
[21:07] <inetpro> man rm
[21:08] <Kilos> oh so i must first get ubuntu-za working here
[21:08] <inetpro> superfly will most likely initiate the Africa project for you separately 
[21:08] <Kilos> im sure you are trying to drive me to an early grave
[21:09] <Kilos> he hasnt got time mine thats why im trying to do it
[21:09] <Kilos> s/mine/man
[21:09] <inetpro> you can not run if you have not learned how to walk 
[21:10] <Kilos> ai!
[21:12] <Kilos> go sleep man, you must work just now
[21:12] <Kilos> ty for the help my goosie
[21:12] <inetpro> Kilos: the Nairobi guys are essentially doing exactly the same as we do, with two differences 
[21:12] <Kilos> yes?
[21:13] <inetpro> 1. they are using git in stead of bzr 
[21:13] <inetpro> 2. they are using something else in stead of nikola 
[21:13] <Kilos> ah
[21:13] <Kilos> ill follow the fly
[21:13] <inetpro> but it is based on the same principle 
[21:14] <inetpro> the code for the site is hosted online with a DVCS 
[21:15] <Kilos> ok
[21:15] <inetpro> anyone can download, hack and push his or her own branch for review 
[21:16] <Kilos> thats where the security comes in right
[21:16] <Kilos> no review and accept means no change
[21:17] <inetpro> the guy hosting the site can look at somebody's submission and decide to merge it into the main branch
[21:17] <inetpro> before taking the code and generating static content with nikola 
[21:18] <Kilos> aha
[21:18] <inetpro> and finally uploading changes to the production Web server 
[21:19] <inetpro> does it make sense now? 
[21:19] <Kilos> yes
[21:20] <Kilos> ty sir
[21:20] <Kilos> sir goosie
[21:21] <Kilos> hi spinza_  you up late
[21:22] <Kilos> oh part joins
[21:22] <Kilos> ai!
[21:22] <inetpro> Kilos: the major point in all this is that this whole cycle of development is exactly how most open source software is built these days 
[21:23] <Kilos> yeah its good for those that understand it
[21:23] <Kilos> major work though
[21:23] <Kilos> for me anyway
[21:23] <inetpro> in other words, if you get to understand this cycle then you can get involved in any other development 
[21:23] <Kilos> oh my
[21:24] <Kilos> one site will be plenty for me
[21:24] <Kilos> then i retire and become a lurker
[21:30] <Kilos> i cant skip all that you said then i cant update
[21:30] <Kilos> no new page made yet i think
[21:31] <inetpro> the first bzr will download the latest version of the code 
[21:31] <inetpro> that is how the site looks like now 
[21:31] <Kilos> ok so i skip them things and then?
[21:32] <inetpro> read the readme 
[21:32] <Kilos> ai!
[21:33] <inetpro> for those who are interested in how the Nairobi site is built, look at: https://github.com/nairobilug/nairobilug.or.ke/blob/master/README.md
[21:33]  * Kilos goes hunting for a readme
[21:36] <Kilos> ok where did you hide it
[21:37] <inetpro> pwd 
[21:38] <inetpro> and please, that does not mean, give me your password 
[21:38] <Kilos> lol
[21:38] <inetpro> :-) 
[21:38] <Kilos> man pwd again'
[21:38] <Kilos> sigh
[21:40] <inetpro> remember, I can not see your screen, you have to enlighten me 
[21:40] <Kilos> pwd did mothing i can see
[21:41] <Kilos> you mean that?
[21:41] <inetpro> ai! 
[21:41] <Kilos>   /home/miles/Projects/ubuntu-za
[21:41] <inetpro> ahh 
[21:41] <Kilos> i forgot the space
[21:42] <inetpro> no space needed 
[21:42] <Kilos> [Error] home/miles/Projects/ubuntu-za: Unknown command.
[21:42] <inetpro> uh! 
[21:42] <Kilos> cant start here with /
[21:43] <Kilos> need space first
[21:43]  * inetpro is loosing him 
[21:43] <Kilos> oh my
[21:44] <Kilos> pwd gave home/miles/Projects/ubuntu-za
[21:44] <inetpro> ah, ek verstaan nou 
[21:44] <Kilos> if i paste that here it gives error
[21:44] <Kilos> ai! ek sukkel
[21:44] <inetpro> obviously 
[21:45] <Kilos> why did you want pwd?
[21:45] <inetpro> don't you use dolphin to explore files and folders? 
[21:45] <Kilos> yes
[21:46] <inetpro> now go find the readme 
[21:46] <Kilos> the folder ubuntu-za is in home
[21:46] <Kilos> oh
[21:46] <inetpro> the point is, you need to always know where you are 
[21:46] <inetpro> it's important 
[21:47] <Kilos> ok ty
[21:47] <Kilos> oooo wow got readme ty
[21:47] <inetpro> ai! 
[21:48] <inetpro> I could have told you, it's in the trunk folder 
[21:48] <Kilos> do i have to run nikola in same poplace?
[21:49] <Kilos> here miles@P64:~/Projects/ubuntu-za$
[21:49] <Kilos> place
[21:49] <inetpro> when nikola is installed you will have to be in the trunk folder to build and serve 
[21:50] <Kilos> nikola was installed when fly started the whole thing with you
[21:50] <inetpro> ai tog 
[21:50] <Kilos> so now i cd to miles@P64:~/Projects/ubuntu-za/trunk
[21:51] <Kilos> ai!
[21:52] <Kilos> ok im there lemme go on ty
[21:52] <inetpro> read, understand and apply your mind 
[21:53] <Kilos> lots of errors
[21:53] <inetpro> obviously 
[21:53] <Kilos> with nikola build
[21:54] <Kilos> ai!
[21:54] <inetpro> you still believe in magic after all this time? 
[21:55] <Kilos> lol
[21:55] <Kilos> what did i do wrong?
[21:55] <Kilos> it copy lots before the errors started
[21:56] <Kilos> copied
[21:56] <Kilos> hey you must sleep man
[21:56] <inetpro> read, understand, apply your mind and follow instructions carefully 
[21:56] <Kilos> its so hard when your chillens dont listen
[21:57] <Kilos> ok ill keep trying you go sleep
[21:57] <Kilos> just now you fall asleep on the bike
[21:57] <Kilos> then who do i say fix it to
[21:58] <inetpro> good night 
[21:58] <Kilos> night boetie
[21:59] <Kilos> sleep tight
[21:59] <Kilos> ty