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ehammercan anyone tell me where the network manager is located? ty00:03
valorieehammer: located?00:10
valoriesoee: I'll try00:10
valorielet me read up00:10
ehammervalorie, no I don't see it00:30
ehammersorry for the delay00:30
ehammerty00:30
valorieyou mean you don't see the icon?00:31
valorieyou should be able to right-click in the taskbar and add icons, depending on your kubuntu version number00:31
valorieit is not clear what you are running00:31
koppanyhello00:57
koppanyis anyone here?00:58
* valorie leaves for dinner; hope you get the help you need, ehammer01:01
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soeegood morning07:15
kubuntuhi all08:51
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rosganihi all08:52
lordievaderGood morning.08:58
rosganihi08:58
lordievaderHey rosgani, how are you?08:59
lordievaderrosgani: Please keep conversations in channel. Unasked PM'ing usually is frowned upon.09:08
lordievaderrosgani: I am doing good, though.09:09
lordievaderrosgani: Let's join #kubuntu-offtopic.09:10
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BluesKaj'Morning folks12:32
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mattnpatHey.13:29
mattnpatI don't even use kubuntu, I think I'm using BSD, but have a nice day everyone.13:30
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AciD`what can you do when xorg uses 2.7GB of RAM? Is there a way to force xorg to flush some ram without killing every X apps ?14:07
BluesKajAciD`, i guess it depends on how many open apps require xorg14:11
AciD`BluesKaj > all those I don't want to close :)14:11
AciD`mainly kwin14:12
BluesKajthen it looks like you have to lkive with it14:12
BluesKajlive14:12
AciD`:(14:13
BluesKajany open games etc?14:13
lordievaderErr, Xorg should not hold the ram of its children.14:13
lordievaderI don't have X anywhere in reach to check its memory usage here.14:14
AciD`xrestop tells me kwin uses 2GB just for himself14:14
BluesKajAciD`, what are you using to monitor memory usage?14:14
AciD`^14:14
AciD`(and ctrl+esc usually)14:15
AciD`BluesKaj > I don't have any open game currently, but I had some yesterday with wine14:16
Captain_HaddockXorg is using 23MB memory + 156MB shared memory here.14:19
lordievaderAs I figured, so if it uses 2.7Gb something is wrong...14:20
BluesKajAciD`, what is the exact number shown in xrestop for kwin?14:22
AciD`http://paste.ubuntu.com/1017372014:22
AciD`I missread, it's 2.3GB, not 2.714:24
lordievaderAciD`: How much does top or ps report?14:24
AciD`(or perhaps it changed since I restarted kwin 2 times now)14:24
lordievaderI might be reading wrong, but isn't it ~220 mb?14:25
AciD`http://paste.ubuntu.com/1017378214:26
AciD`weirdly, xrestop tells me kwin is taking all the xorg memory, but top does not picks up on that14:26
lordievaderAciD`: How much ram in in your system?14:27
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AciD`16GB14:27
BluesKajAciD`, that's not Gb, that's mb from what I can see 213554K=213554000=21mb14:27
AciD`http://i.imgur.com/e2Dlwil.png14:29
AciD`2.314GB ram, 1GB shared for Xorg14:29
BluesKajok14:30
AciD`since reloading kwin with `kwin --replace` (with or without compositing) did not solve the problem14:30
AciD`I guess I'll have to reboot :(14:31
AciD`except if you see another solution14:31
AciD`after reboot, xorg uses 324MB, 830MB shared14:37
AciD`far better14:37
Captain_HaddockAciD`: That still seems high.14:38
AciD`Captain_Haddock > it's at 175MB when starting (I use a 2560x1440 display btw)14:38
Captain_HaddockAh14:38
AciD`when I launch firefox + freemind + inkscape it jumps up14:38
AciD`(given those are not kde apps unfortunatly)14:39
AciD`*qt14:39
lordievaderFWIW: X uses 20Mb here with 33Mb shared.15:31
lordievaderFull-HD resolution.15:32
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johnnafter ysterday update kubuntu 14.10 plasma preview 64 is not working.16:07
johnnsystemd error: get error saying sddm userfailed somthing like that....16:08
StellaDΚαλησπερα, υπαρχει καποιος online να με βοηθησει σε εγκατασταση σε netbook παρακαλώ?16:33
lordievader!ru | StellaD16:36
ubottuStellaD: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.16:36
StellaDEnglish?16:37
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ceibal_Hoola17:02
jbwivguys, I'm running stock ubuntu 14.10, but would like to try plasma5. is the kubuntu-ppa/next the preferred way of doing this?17:12
BluesKajjbwiv, yes17:17
jbwivBluesKaj: ok, thanks. What's the best way to install without doing a full kubuntu-desktop install? I'd like to install it but maintain my normal ubuntu file associations, default apps, etc17:17
BluesKajjbwiv, add the ppa , update /upgrade then dist upgrade https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/next17:19
jbwivBluesKaj: ok ,but won't that install the full kubuntu dist? For example, won't it replace lightdm with kdm, etc?17:20
BluesKajjbwiv, plasma is still under development so if you're on a production machine on the job etc I would wait til KDE5 is officially released17:22
jbwivBluesKaj: ok, fair enough. thank you17:22
jbwivI'll give it a shot in a vm17:22
BluesKajjbwiv, personally I'm not a big fan so far17:23
jbwivBluesKaj: oh really? that's a shame...I held high hopes ;)17:23
jbwivthe state of the linux desktop is really sad. unity is broken, gnome3 isn't much better, and kde seems to be digressing as well17:24
BluesKajI'm testing 15.04 which has plasma 5,2 and KF5 and there are some annoyances, some more serious than others17:24
BluesKajjbwiv, yes I'm not liking the the direction that KDE is taking with plsama 517:25
BluesKaj14.10 with plasma 4 is as solid and stable as anything I've used in linux17:26
serpardumSoftware Updater comes up every day and says it wants to update. so I say install now, then it complains that some things are unsecure and I'll need to change the settings. But it never says *what* is unsecure or what settings to change. Anyone?17:28
serpardum"Requires Installation of untruste dpackages This requires isntalling packages from unauthenticed sources". It doesn't say which package or what it's complaining about17:31
serpardumThere is no details or log to look at I can see either17:31
serpardumany why my calender is in spanish I don't think I'll ever figure out17:33
mr-richserpardum: have you added any third party repos?17:43
serpardumHmmm. I've isolated it to plex home theatre which doesn't worka nd needs an update anyway17:45
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designbybeck_If my computer goes to sleep or if I lock it and go away for awhile, kwin pegs the CPU at 100% (or higher oddly) and I can't the screen will not let me interact with anything, so I have to go to a TTY and kill kwin, then go back and start it19:18
designbybeck_This happened with Kubuntu 14.10 and then I did a clean install of 14.04.1 and it still does it19:30
designbybeck_I have installed the latest NVIDIA driver19:30
designbybeck_but seemed it was doing it with or without that installed19:30
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rberg_I have been having a issue where plasma freezes for a few min when my laptop wakes up, by freeze I mean the clock doesnt update and clicking on anything in the tray does nothing until it unfreezes then everything I clicked on opens.. does anyone know what can be done about this annoyance?21:47
rberg_oh and the reason I believe its plasma is because if I attempt to suspend again it will fail and dmesg reports plasma as the reason it was unable to freeze21:49
rberg_my problem seems to be related to laptop-mode-tools. with that removed I cannot reproduce22:10
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