[00:03] <ehammer> can anyone tell me where the network manager is located? ty
[00:10] <valorie> ehammer: located?
[00:10] <valorie> soee: I'll try
[00:10] <valorie> let me read up
[00:30] <ehammer> valorie, no I don't see it
[00:30] <ehammer> sorry for the delay
[00:30] <ehammer> ty
[00:31] <valorie> you mean you don't see the icon?
[00:31] <valorie> you should be able to right-click in the taskbar and add icons, depending on your kubuntu version number
[00:31] <valorie> it is not clear what you are running
[00:57] <koppany> hello
[00:58] <koppany> is anyone here?
[01:01]  * valorie leaves for dinner; hope you get the help you need, ehammer
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[07:15] <soee> good morning
[08:51] <kubuntu> hi all
[08:52] <rosgani> hi all
[08:58] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:58] <rosgani> hi
[08:59] <lordievader> Hey rosgani, how are you?
[09:08] <lordievader> rosgani: Please keep conversations in channel. Unasked PM'ing usually is frowned upon.
[09:09] <lordievader> rosgani: I am doing good, though.
[09:10] <lordievader> rosgani: Let's join #kubuntu-offtopic.
[12:32] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[13:29] <mattnpat> Hey.
[13:30] <mattnpat> I don't even use kubuntu, I think I'm using BSD, but have a nice day everyone.
[14:07] <AciD`> what can you do when xorg uses 2.7GB of RAM? Is there a way to force xorg to flush some ram without killing every X apps ?
[14:11] <BluesKaj> AciD`, i guess it depends on how many open apps require xorg
[14:11] <AciD`> BluesKaj > all those I don't want to close :)
[14:12] <AciD`> mainly kwin
[14:12] <BluesKaj> then it looks like you have to lkive with it
[14:12] <BluesKaj> live
[14:13] <AciD`> :(
[14:13] <BluesKaj> any open games etc?
[14:13] <lordievader> Err, Xorg should not hold the ram of its children.
[14:14] <lordievader> I don't have X anywhere in reach to check its memory usage here.
[14:14] <AciD`> xrestop tells me kwin uses 2GB just for himself
[14:14] <BluesKaj> AciD`, what are you using to monitor memory usage?
[14:14] <AciD`> ^
[14:15] <AciD`> (and ctrl+esc usually)
[14:16] <AciD`> BluesKaj > I don't have any open game currently, but I had some yesterday with wine
[14:19] <Captain_Haddock> Xorg is using 23MB memory + 156MB shared memory here.
[14:20] <lordievader> As I figured, so if it uses 2.7Gb something is wrong...
[14:22] <BluesKaj> AciD`, what is the exact number shown in xrestop for kwin?
[14:22] <AciD`> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10173720
[14:24] <AciD`> I missread, it's 2.3GB, not 2.7
[14:24] <lordievader> AciD`: How much does top or ps report?
[14:24] <AciD`> (or perhaps it changed since I restarted kwin 2 times now)
[14:25] <lordievader> I might be reading wrong, but isn't it ~220 mb?
[14:26] <AciD`> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10173782
[14:26] <AciD`> weirdly, xrestop tells me kwin is taking all the xorg memory, but top does not picks up on that
[14:27] <lordievader> AciD`: How much ram in in your system?
[14:27] <AciD`> 16GB
[14:27] <BluesKaj> AciD`, that's not Gb, that's mb from what I can see 213554K=213554000=21mb
[14:29] <AciD`> http://i.imgur.com/e2Dlwil.png
[14:29] <AciD`> 2.314GB ram, 1GB shared for Xorg
[14:30] <BluesKaj> ok
[14:30] <AciD`> since reloading kwin with `kwin --replace` (with or without compositing) did not solve the problem
[14:31] <AciD`> I guess I'll have to reboot :(
[14:31] <AciD`> except if you see another solution
[14:37] <AciD`> after reboot, xorg uses 324MB, 830MB shared
[14:37] <AciD`> far better
[14:38] <Captain_Haddock> AciD`: That still seems high.
[14:38] <AciD`> Captain_Haddock > it's at 175MB when starting (I use a 2560x1440 display btw)
[14:38] <Captain_Haddock> Ah
[14:38] <AciD`> when I launch firefox + freemind + inkscape it jumps up
[14:39] <AciD`> (given those are not kde apps unfortunatly)
[14:39] <AciD`> *qt
[15:31] <lordievader> FWIW: X uses 20Mb here with 33Mb shared.
[15:32] <lordievader> Full-HD resolution.
[16:07] <johnn> after ysterday update kubuntu 14.10 plasma preview 64 is not working.
[16:08] <johnn> systemd error: get error saying sddm userfailed somthing like that....
[16:33] <StellaD> Καλησπερα, υπαρχει καποιος online να με βοηθησει σε εγκατασταση σε netbook παρακαλώ?
[16:36] <lordievader> !ru | StellaD
[16:37] <StellaD> English?
[17:02] <ceibal_> Hoola
[17:12] <jbwiv> guys, I'm running stock ubuntu 14.10, but would like to try plasma5. is the kubuntu-ppa/next the preferred way of doing this?
[17:17] <BluesKaj> jbwiv, yes
[17:17] <jbwiv> BluesKaj: ok, thanks. What's the best way to install without doing a full kubuntu-desktop install? I'd like to install it but maintain my normal ubuntu file associations, default apps, etc
[17:19] <BluesKaj> jbwiv, add the ppa , update /upgrade then dist upgrade https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/next
[17:20] <jbwiv> BluesKaj: ok ,but won't that install the full kubuntu dist? For example, won't it replace lightdm with kdm, etc?
[17:22] <BluesKaj> jbwiv, plasma is still under development so if you're on a production machine on the job etc I would wait til KDE5 is officially released
[17:22] <jbwiv> BluesKaj: ok, fair enough. thank you
[17:22] <jbwiv> I'll give it a shot in a vm
[17:23] <BluesKaj> jbwiv, personally I'm not a big fan so far
[17:23] <jbwiv> BluesKaj: oh really? that's a shame...I held high hopes ;)
[17:24] <jbwiv> the state of the linux desktop is really sad. unity is broken, gnome3 isn't much better, and kde seems to be digressing as well
[17:24] <BluesKaj> I'm testing 15.04 which has plasma 5,2 and KF5 and there are some annoyances, some more serious than others
[17:25] <BluesKaj> jbwiv, yes I'm not liking the the direction that KDE is taking with plsama 5
[17:26] <BluesKaj> 14.10 with plasma 4 is as solid and stable as anything I've used in linux
[17:28] <serpardum> Software Updater comes up every day and says it wants to update. so I say install now, then it complains that some things are unsecure and I'll need to change the settings. But it never says *what* is unsecure or what settings to change. Anyone?
[17:31] <serpardum> "Requires Installation of untruste dpackages This requires isntalling packages from unauthenticed sources". It doesn't say which package or what it's complaining about
[17:31] <serpardum> There is no details or log to look at I can see either
[17:33] <serpardum> any why my calender is in spanish I don't think I'll ever figure out
[17:43] <mr-rich> serpardum: have you added any third party repos?
[17:45] <serpardum> Hmmm. I've isolated it to plex home theatre which doesn't worka nd needs an update anyway
[19:18] <designbybeck_> If my computer goes to sleep or if I lock it and go away for awhile, kwin pegs the CPU at 100% (or higher oddly) and I can't the screen will not let me interact with anything, so I have to go to a TTY and kill kwin, then go back and start it
[19:30] <designbybeck_> This happened with Kubuntu 14.10 and then I did a clean install of 14.04.1 and it still does it
[19:30] <designbybeck_> I have installed the latest NVIDIA driver
[19:30] <designbybeck_> but seemed it was doing it with or without that installed
[21:47] <rberg_> I have been having a issue where plasma freezes for a few min when my laptop wakes up, by freeze I mean the clock doesnt update and clicking on anything in the tray does nothing until it unfreezes then everything I clicked on opens.. does anyone know what can be done about this annoyance?
[21:49] <rberg_> oh and the reason I believe its plasma is because if I attempt to suspend again it will fail and dmesg reports plasma as the reason it was unable to freeze
[22:10] <rberg_> my problem seems to be related to laptop-mode-tools. with that removed I cannot reproduce
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