[00:03] can anyone tell me where the network manager is located? ty [00:10] ehammer: located? [00:10] soee: I'll try [00:10] let me read up [00:30] valorie, no I don't see it [00:30] sorry for the delay [00:30] ty [00:31] you mean you don't see the icon? [00:31] you should be able to right-click in the taskbar and add icons, depending on your kubuntu version number [00:31] it is not clear what you are running [00:57] hello [00:58] is anyone here? [01:01] * valorie leaves for dinner; hope you get the help you need, ehammer === max is now known as Guest17280 === Guest17280 is now known as schnucke === SonikkuAmerica_ is now known as littlebunnyfufu === littlebunnyfufu is now known as SonikkuAmerica [02:41] lkkkllk [02:41] ñññ [02:41] ññlññ [02:41] {ñ{ñ{ === Guest65907 is now known as Mamarok === nathan__ is now known as alekspetrakov === altair is now known as Guest97469 === kevin is now known as Guest29412 === Guest97469 is now known as altairpearl === ayushpix is now known as Guest60549 [07:15] good morning [08:51] hi all === kubuntu is now known as rosgani [08:52] hi all [08:58] Good morning. [08:58] hi [08:59] Hey rosgani, how are you? [09:08] rosgani: Please keep conversations in channel. Unasked PM'ing usually is frowned upon. [09:09] rosgani: I am doing good, though. [09:10] rosgani: Let's join #kubuntu-offtopic. === gil is now known as Guest90617 === kbroulik is now known as kbroulik-lunch === ayushpix is now known as Guest2851 === kubuntu is now known as Guest46871 [12:32] 'Morning folks === kbroulik-lunch is now known as kbroulik [13:29] Hey. [13:30] I don't even use kubuntu, I think I'm using BSD, but have a nice day everyone. === pvoigt_ is now known as pvoigt [14:07] what can you do when xorg uses 2.7GB of RAM? Is there a way to force xorg to flush some ram without killing every X apps ? [14:11] AciD`, i guess it depends on how many open apps require xorg [14:11] BluesKaj > all those I don't want to close :) [14:12] mainly kwin [14:12] then it looks like you have to lkive with it [14:12] live [14:13] :( [14:13] any open games etc? [14:13] Err, Xorg should not hold the ram of its children. [14:14] I don't have X anywhere in reach to check its memory usage here. [14:14] xrestop tells me kwin uses 2GB just for himself [14:14] AciD`, what are you using to monitor memory usage? [14:14] ^ [14:15] (and ctrl+esc usually) [14:16] BluesKaj > I don't have any open game currently, but I had some yesterday with wine [14:19] Xorg is using 23MB memory + 156MB shared memory here. [14:20] As I figured, so if it uses 2.7Gb something is wrong... [14:22] AciD`, what is the exact number shown in xrestop for kwin? [14:22] http://paste.ubuntu.com/10173720 [14:24] I missread, it's 2.3GB, not 2.7 [14:24] AciD`: How much does top or ps report? [14:24] (or perhaps it changed since I restarted kwin 2 times now) [14:25] I might be reading wrong, but isn't it ~220 mb? [14:26] http://paste.ubuntu.com/10173782 [14:26] weirdly, xrestop tells me kwin is taking all the xorg memory, but top does not picks up on that [14:27] AciD`: How much ram in in your system? === legion is now known as Guest55490 [14:27] 16GB [14:27] AciD`, that's not Gb, that's mb from what I can see 213554K=213554000=21mb [14:29] http://i.imgur.com/e2Dlwil.png [14:29] 2.314GB ram, 1GB shared for Xorg [14:30] ok [14:30] since reloading kwin with `kwin --replace` (with or without compositing) did not solve the problem [14:31] I guess I'll have to reboot :( [14:31] except if you see another solution [14:37] after reboot, xorg uses 324MB, 830MB shared [14:37] far better [14:38] AciD`: That still seems high. [14:38] Captain_Haddock > it's at 175MB when starting (I use a 2560x1440 display btw) [14:38] Ah [14:38] when I launch firefox + freemind + inkscape it jumps up [14:39] (given those are not kde apps unfortunatly) [14:39] *qt [15:31] FWIW: X uses 20Mb here with 33Mb shared. [15:32] Full-HD resolution. === David1977 is now known as Guest81175 [16:07] after ysterday update kubuntu 14.10 plasma preview 64 is not working. [16:08] systemd error: get error saying sddm userfailed somthing like that.... [16:33] Καλησπερα, υπαρχει καποιος online να με βοηθησει σε εγκατασταση σε netbook παρακαλώ? [16:36] !ru | StellaD [16:36] StellaD: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke. [16:37] English? === ceibal is now known as ceibal_ [17:02] Hoola [17:12] guys, I'm running stock ubuntu 14.10, but would like to try plasma5. is the kubuntu-ppa/next the preferred way of doing this? [17:17] jbwiv, yes [17:17] BluesKaj: ok, thanks. What's the best way to install without doing a full kubuntu-desktop install? I'd like to install it but maintain my normal ubuntu file associations, default apps, etc [17:19] jbwiv, add the ppa , update /upgrade then dist upgrade https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/next [17:20] BluesKaj: ok ,but won't that install the full kubuntu dist? For example, won't it replace lightdm with kdm, etc? [17:22] jbwiv, plasma is still under development so if you're on a production machine on the job etc I would wait til KDE5 is officially released [17:22] BluesKaj: ok, fair enough. thank you [17:22] I'll give it a shot in a vm [17:23] jbwiv, personally I'm not a big fan so far [17:23] BluesKaj: oh really? that's a shame...I held high hopes ;) [17:24] the state of the linux desktop is really sad. unity is broken, gnome3 isn't much better, and kde seems to be digressing as well [17:24] I'm testing 15.04 which has plasma 5,2 and KF5 and there are some annoyances, some more serious than others [17:25] jbwiv, yes I'm not liking the the direction that KDE is taking with plsama 5 [17:26] 14.10 with plasma 4 is as solid and stable as anything I've used in linux [17:28] Software Updater comes up every day and says it wants to update. so I say install now, then it complains that some things are unsecure and I'll need to change the settings. But it never says *what* is unsecure or what settings to change. Anyone? [17:31] "Requires Installation of untruste dpackages This requires isntalling packages from unauthenticed sources". It doesn't say which package or what it's complaining about [17:31] There is no details or log to look at I can see either [17:33] any why my calender is in spanish I don't think I'll ever figure out [17:43] serpardum: have you added any third party repos? [17:45] Hmmm. I've isolated it to plex home theatre which doesn't worka nd needs an update anyway === vov is now known as Guest46753 [19:18] If my computer goes to sleep or if I lock it and go away for awhile, kwin pegs the CPU at 100% (or higher oddly) and I can't the screen will not let me interact with anything, so I have to go to a TTY and kill kwin, then go back and start it [19:30] This happened with Kubuntu 14.10 and then I did a clean install of 14.04.1 and it still does it [19:30] I have installed the latest NVIDIA driver [19:30] but seemed it was doing it with or without that installed === Sven_M_ is now known as Sven_dM === idleone_ is now known as io [21:47] I have been having a issue where plasma freezes for a few min when my laptop wakes up, by freeze I mean the clock doesnt update and clicking on anything in the tray does nothing until it unfreezes then everything I clicked on opens.. does anyone know what can be done about this annoyance? [21:49] oh and the reason I believe its plasma is because if I attempt to suspend again it will fail and dmesg reports plasma as the reason it was unable to freeze [22:10] my problem seems to be related to laptop-mode-tools. with that removed I cannot reproduce [22:13] irc://irc.quakenet.org/assaultcube [22:13] server=irc://irc.quakenet.org/assaultcube