=== Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [00:12] Azelphur: oh my tux, glue failed on V-Day 2014!? [00:12] hehe yup [00:14] that's a heartbreaker :) [00:15] this valentines day it's getting some freshening up though, I ordered a replacement internal battery, new cable for the one that failed on the 9th, and a second external battery so I can hot swap them [00:17] :D [00:17] sounds like geek bliss [00:17] surgery *and* upgrading things [00:18] hehe [00:32] geek bliss would be ordering 10 dead headphones off ebay and creating 1 functional frankenstein pair shouting 'they're alive, they're alive' :-D [00:42] XD [00:43] and this is why we can't meet you, zmoylan-pi ;) [00:43] a lightening rod powering the device is optional but not mandatory... [00:49] daftykins: I still think my friend holds the torch with the G930s, he bought one and did my battery hack to it [00:50] and then he decided that his external battery didn't have enough power to last him, so he external battery modded his external battery [00:50] (obligatory yo dawg) [00:51] the first was too small, the second was too small, the third was jussssssst right... [00:57] Azelphur: :D [00:57] that reminds me actually, maybe i'll send off my Shure IEMs for repair for my birthday === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi [08:06] morning all [08:19] hi nall [09:04] Morning all [09:07] MooDoo: wait till I tell you too that you can juju setup a local instance on Laptop/PC and then just deploy it anywhere too, so cloud, servers, more pc's, bare metal...../me dashes off to facebook to see if his head is still exploding [09:16] davmor2: was watching alot on you tube last night, setting up mass, then juju and deplying wordpress etc....looks facinating, [09:18] hi MooDoo [09:23] MooDoo: it is pretty awesome right :) [09:29] davmor2: yeah, not sure how I would make use of it yet, but certainly fab [09:29] howdy mapp === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [09:51] So does juju work on Snappy? [09:51] * awilkins wonders if you need to use the Force [09:52] Was thinking about mucking about with Snappy and you can now get it on Pi2 [10:23] morning boys and girls. [10:23] morning [10:23] Good morning all; happy Get Out Your Guitar Day! :-D [10:24] morning bashrc and JamesTait === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [10:32] bigcalm, if you haven't seen.. more phones at 14:00 utc :) [10:36] \o/ [10:38] JamesTait: www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tqxzWdKKu8 [10:39] my brian feels like it's too big for my skull [10:39] ello btw :-) [10:42] davmor2++ [10:42] so, davmor3? === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [11:21] diddledan: davmor3? [11:22] davmor2, that'll be davmor2++ [11:22] diddledan: so diddledan [11:24] diddledan: was there something you wanted to say about something or were you just randomly highlighting a non-existant nick for the hell of it ;) [11:25] davmor2, it's a response to JamesTait [11:26] It's all right, diddledan, davmor2 hasn't had his coffee yet. ;) [11:26] :-) [11:26] ali1234: whatcha using teletext for? [11:28] Seeker`, I recall he broke some TVs with it [11:29] teletext? is that still around? [11:29] yeah, the readme says that apparently the demo mode no longer crashes TVs :P [11:29] \o/ [11:30] MooDoo, not transmitted, no [11:31] unless some backwater still uses analogue tv? [11:32] in britain however, all analogue-tv+teletext is dead [11:32] instead we have the MHEG thing that bundles interactive into the digital transmission [11:33] I heard you speak, but all I head was gobbledegook ;) lol [11:34] it is similar in operation I think, but includes things likethe ability to change channels and rudimentary programmatic capability (probably java-embedded?) and embedded video streams that aren't the main video stream [11:35] here ya go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MHEG-5 [11:37] diddledan: no thanks, davmor2 is killing my brain cells with maas and juju [11:37] :D [11:37] MooDoo: not to mention landscape thrown into the mix to manage it all right ;) [11:45] davmor2: git [11:48] MooDoo: yeap you can pull in from git and launchpad too yes [11:49] davmor2: slap! [11:50] just sussed gluusterfs, let me get that out my head first lol [11:51] MooDoo: http://blog.gluster.org/category/ubuntu/ [11:52] MooDoo: was it not as simply as juju deploy glusterfs for you? /me jumps in the bunker to dodge the missiles :D [11:53] http://manage.jujucharms.com/~negronjl/oneiric/glusterfs-server [11:53] davmor2: see that's the find of thing i'm struggling to get my head around, how do you then set it up to sync data between servers, or do you even have to? [11:54] i'll play and figure it ou [11:54] out [11:54] MooDoo: Magic you assign links between them and the charm sets up the rest [11:54] live-patching the kernel? yes please. https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/2/9/534 [11:54] davmor2: that sounds like haven [11:55] diddledan: yeah, be nice not to rely on oracle and ksplice [11:55] MooDoo: it is that simple literally there is a demo server too so you can play with the gui :) [11:55] MooDoo: https://demo.jujucharms.com/ [11:55] popey, it would be a killer addition to snappy-core and the ubuntu-touch update mechanisms [11:56] yeah [11:56] uptime-junkies rejoice [11:57] it'ld be interesting to see it extended to userland processes too - e.g. updating glibc and live-patching all running tasks to point to the new one === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away === michelle is now known as Guest66567 [14:07] out of stock already?! [14:07] chicken stock? [14:08] ubuntu phone [14:33] After 3 minutes?! [14:35] blink and you'll miss it. i'm sure a few will be on ebay for silly money later [15:15] Good morning peeps :) [15:16] morning [15:29] bigcalm: morning [15:31] Hi intrbiz [15:43] Anyone happen to know things about home automation type curtains/blinds? [16:27] hmm [16:29] I guess buying an Ubuntu Phone today, wasn't meant to be [16:30] oh? [16:30] why so? [16:30] daftykins: yes out of stock it says now [16:30] or maybe can buy anyway? hmm [16:30] where is this? :) [16:32] They sold out in about 3 minutes [16:32] Both times [16:33] i thought you weren't going to be at keyboard tapping f5? :-) [16:33] awilkins: what it sold out in about 3 minutes really? [16:33] ? [16:33] Well, I inferred this from there being a tranche put up at 1430 (apparently) [16:33] And there being none at 1433 [16:34] awilkins, the second batch was 14:00 and sold out by 14:06 [16:34] sebsebseb: worked for me :) [16:34] popey, gimme :-p [16:34] popey: you had one already dind't you?? [16:34] yes and no [16:34] I have an android bq phone which is flashed with ubuntu [16:34] these ones ship with ubuntu [16:35] and dont have the capacitive android buttons [16:35] \o/ [16:35] popey: I wanted to check my money situtaion before buying it, wel if it han't been sold out [16:35] popey: are the android buttons used by ubuntu if they are there? [16:35] popey: I am down on money after Brussels, and also buying well two other expensive tech devices in the last, ok make that three actsaully, in the last three months or so [16:36] bigcalm: no [16:36] Fair enough [16:36] !rat [16:36] rat is The Real Ale Train. A yearly Ubuntu UK loco event to celebrate friends, trains and ale. Saturday 2nd August 2014 Hampshire, UK: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/2745-real-ale-train-2014/ [16:37] Remind me how I go about changing that? [16:37] popey: no good being over drawn when getting charged for it [16:37] pft £15 for borrowing 7p really? uh [16:37] bigcalm: is a date set? [16:38] to many Ubuntu fan boys wanting the Ubuntu Phone today I guess :D [16:38] bq aparently just stated they recived over 12,000 orders per min [16:39] yey twitter [16:39] diddledan: oh wel that sounds about right, eseically going by my comment just now heh [16:39] bodes well [16:39] we'll see [16:40] bigcalm: the factoid? isn't it !rat is blah blah [16:40] Looking forward to getting one. [16:40] I've had a pretty interesting idea for off-site backups, seems like the majority of people go to buyvm for like $30/TB [16:40] so BQ doing another batch in the next few weeks? [16:40] or is it abobut waiting for the other maker now hmm [16:40] next week apparently [16:41] and I've noticed the Hetzner bargain bin have some servers with ridicuolus amount of HDD space, they have a 7 x 1.5TB server up right now for €43.70, which comes out at like $6/TB...don't think it gets any cheaper than that xD [16:41] they (bq) mentioned that on G+ i think [16:41] popey: oh, but don't get that case on the next lot? [16:41] been trying to arrange a group buy with my friends, and we'll just RAID5 it, and use KVM to split it up [16:42] daftykins: can't it appears to be protected [16:42] ah [16:42] popey: thought I'd wait a week before closing the poll [16:43] ah lst my curousrr... [16:43] had that bbefore [16:43] no I don't want to be completly stuck in IRC :d [16:43] in this channel to, if I can't change otherwise [16:43] ok back in a bit [16:44] AlanBell: are you joining us on the RAT this year? http://doodle.com/4sdaaswwngu4n2bm [16:44] AlanBell: Hayley wants to wear your hat [16:45] god damnit, there's a clear hole in my plan [16:46] 1 of my friend works at a data centre and gets colocation for free, another works at M$ and gets a free VPS with boatloads of storage... [16:46] :< [16:46] Azelphur: :( [16:46] Azelphur: so where's *your* free setup!? :D [16:46] haha [16:46] my company does not own data centers :< [16:48] ok back [16:48] every time i see a $ used to name microsoft, i remember directhex pasting a link to a comic about doing so :( [16:48] popey: well hopefully can order one next week then [16:49] ,but yeah I guess means get it a bit later then, the ones who got today the real fan boys etc [16:49] http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2002/07/22/m [16:49] son¥ [16:50] directhex: :D [16:52] popey: yeah bq would be silly really not to come out with another batch [16:52] since the amount of profit they can make [16:52] even if it's a half proit share with Canonical or something like that, any idea how much Canonical actsaully get from this? [16:53] no idea [16:54] that kind of information is above my paygrade [16:56] I had to look-up palladium [16:56] what happened to that? [16:56] popey: no it isn't....it's way above your pay grade ;) [16:57] popey: yeah they just use you to work on the OS for Ubuntu Phone and such, and keep all the secrets, sectret from you heh heh :d [16:57] anyway yeah there will be another flash sale next week according to the tweets on the bq site [16:57] ,but when is the thing hmm [16:59] not so sure I like the flash sale idea for these phones really, on the other hand if it was a general sale I guess they could all be sold out just like that and yeah [16:59] I guess flash sale ideas' help build up the hype in them to, which Canonical will want of course really [17:00] a lot less logistics with just doing a web sale of batches instead of trying to find a few 1000 shops to stock them [17:02] zmoylan-pi: yeah noting shitps untill March it seems to [17:02] so a lot of these phones haven't actsually been made yet possibly I guess [17:02] the psyical object [17:03] or they got loads of old ones that used to be Android waiting to go? :d === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [17:13] daftykins: https://owncloud.azelphur.com/owncloud/public.php?service=files&t=11147b0824a0f337272d7eb12f2cb621 lol [17:14] aww come on the xbox one is alright ;) [17:14] Seattle i hear is rainy :D [17:14] so it's basically like the Pacific's England? ;) [17:14] haha [17:15] rainy.... pft... this is IRELAND :-) [17:17] Azelphur: how come that screenie is so high-DPI 0o [17:17] seems like what i'd see from a mates retina macbook or some such [17:18] daftykins: I'm on 2k [17:18] it's even more fun, my laptop is 3k [17:18] http://www.pcgamesn.com/train-simulator-2015/prime-minister-david-cameron-spent-the-day-playing-train-simulator [17:18] Azelphur, 2k? you mean 1920x1080? [17:19] diddledan: no, 2560x1440 [17:19] popey: so what did you do at FOSDEM/Brussels anway? [17:19] 2.5k :D [17:19] indeed, that's 2.5 [17:21] 4k is 3840x2160 I think === willcooke_ is now known as willcooke [17:21] i.e. 2*1920x1080 [17:21] as it's twice in both directions it makes a total of 4times the number of pixies [17:22] i thought it was more that it's almost 4 thousand wide [17:23] daftykins, the term "4k" refers to that, yes [17:23] k being shorthand for "thousand" [17:24] I saw someone a while ago thinking 4k meant 4million pixies [17:25] XD [17:26] a time when i've been extremely confused about units, was popping into Boots whilst after some Vitamin B12 to speed up recovery from shingles - and seeing packets say they had 10 ug in them (micrograms) [17:29] give me 1kg of vitamin c so they pelted you with oranges... :-P [17:29] yeah the u is supposed to be the greek letter "mu" [17:30] u is often used because marketing types can't work out how to use the character palette [17:31] oh i definitely knew it was mu, i was just looking to get closer to 500mg so i was like - milli? micro? wat? [17:32] aah [17:32] milli is smaller than micro [17:32] diddledan: wut? [17:33] you might want to rethink that statement [17:33] ? [17:33] "milli is smaller than micro" [17:33] where exactly between meters and millimeters does micrometers fit? :P [17:34] okok [17:34] * diddledan goes and sits with daftykins [17:34] we be confoosed together [17:34] milli is bigger than micro :| [17:34] 8D [17:35] diddledan: join me at Boots on the Guernsey high-street, down staring at the vitamin section [17:36] apparently the most you can absorb in a single dose is 1.5 micrograms [17:36] I don't work in such small numbers - I use integer multpiles of thousand [17:36] and your body stores a total of about 2-5mg [17:36] that's a long time to stock up again if you're deficient! [17:37] meh, it's exactly the same, except they're signed ints. 10^-3, 10^-6, etc [17:38] well, thankfully i'm finally past the pain stage and have very faint spots left now :D [17:38] so it won't be long before i'm totally free of it [17:44] got this user over in #ubuntu who is booted into a precise live session, they want to make up a second flash drive as one too [17:44] i figure there won't be enough space for an ISO download, but what about dd'ing the already booted drive to another? :D [17:45] hm. I can't see any reason it shouldn't work, but I'd still file it under "have fun with that" [17:45] totally :D [17:46] fire up dosbox and do it from there :-P [17:48] lady at the book shop asked me I have a student card. bless her. maybe 15 years ago :/ [17:49] XD [17:49] i have been asked that in last year as well. i'm 45 this year, i blame my tux baseball cap :-) [18:03] Don't suppose anyone here is interested in clubbing in for some cheap offsite backup space? === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [18:19] ali1234: that teletext stuff looks awesome :) [18:20] lovely teardown of that latest Dell XPS 13 - https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Dell+XPS+13+Teardown/36157 [18:28] phwoar! [18:32] soldered RAM :( [18:42] Azelphur: bit weird to be offered bitcoins for helping out in #ubuntu - heh [18:43] daftykins: take em, moneys money :) [18:43] well, i tried to point to donating to Kodi instead since it's all about the free help. i don't know the first thing about coin storage or what not [18:47] Step 1) Get Electrum, Step 2) You can now accept coins [18:47] o rly [18:47] Azelphur: Elecrum is that the Bitcoin wallet you recommend? [18:48] link? [18:48] .org i see [18:48] https://electrum.org/ [18:48] yeah not sure which one to go fo really [18:48] did use a site the other day that pays a little bitcoin for chatting [18:48] pay for chat 0o [18:49] got to be on it a lot to get a proper bitcoin though [18:49] daftykins: yeah, but not much [18:49] more about being a chat community than actsaully paying people bitcoins [18:49] daftykins: bitcoin be split up into lots of milli bitcoins before even having one [18:49] minilli mini whaterver it's called [18:50] milli mini whatever it's called [18:50] * sebsebseb with enough bitcoin could buy the Humble Bundle at least, which would be nicer probably really than paying real cash for that [18:51] kind of used /me wrongly there, but oh well [18:51] ;D [18:51] seems the best way to earn bitcoins is from bitcoin gambling sites though, or well that's my understanding anyway, so hmm at that [18:53] i was just watching some Sopranos episodes last night where some people make some big gambling losses, such mugs! [18:53] i just cringe at that [18:53] oh [18:53] daftykins: heh you reminded me I got a mug on the floor at the moment, that should go back in the bag or something for the time being, untill it's actsauly going to get used, a postressql mug in fact [18:54] :D [18:54] heh was meant to buy two last year, but got them this year instead [18:54] and the last two as well at FOSDEM :d [18:55] daftykins: walking on a mug proabbly woudn't be so nice :d ,but I know it's there [18:55] beats a UK mains plug :) [18:55] a UK mains mug oh? [18:55] nah plug, for the standing on [18:55] oh? [18:56] yeah, wouldn't recommend it :) that's one of those childhood lessons you learn once [18:56] what to not walk on a mug? [18:57] on a mains plug! :) [18:57] ah right [18:57] well when it's connected sure [18:57] not the best idea [18:57] or depending on... [18:58] who bought an Ubuntu Phone from here today anyway? other than popey [18:58] nor when they're on the floor upturned [18:59] daftykins: yeah I guess [19:00] daftykins: how many years have you done #ubuntu support for now by the way 10? [19:00] 8? [19:00] 6? [19:01] i guess i've been lurking on freenode off and on for at least 8-9 years yeah [19:01] yes pretty sure your name was there, when I used to help out often in there (or try to) [19:02] ^_^ [19:03] helping or hindering as i like to say [19:03] hindering how so? [19:04] just in jest [19:04] oh ok I guess [19:05] obviously i don't mislead people [19:06] daftykins: yeah you do to pay you thousands worth of btcoins :d that's why that person earlier was like, I'll pay you bitcon :D [19:06] daftykins: nah I am joking :d [19:06] XD [19:06] yep it's all a secret funding venture [19:07] yeah you bad boy daftykins and you said it was all volunteer and your profiting big time off it in bitcoins :d heh heh [19:07] ;_; === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [19:38] daftykins: not often you don't ;) [19:38] lol [19:40] daftykins: plan is succeeding, 6 out of 8TB is gone now :P [19:40] \o/ [19:54] daftykins: and now only 1TB remains >:) [20:59] daftykins: aww yis, order placed, 7 x 1.5TB drives, muhahaha. [21:01] a friends 8 x 2TB RAID6 is a bit old now, need to consider 8 new disks to build a newer one to have some in-warranty disks [21:03] lol [21:03] if he's selling 2TB drives cheap... [21:03] :) [21:04] buying disks that've been spinning solidly for many years *might* not be too wise :) [21:04] * Azelphur shrugs [21:04] and nah, ideally i want to throw them into another setup as backup [21:04] but even an 8-bay unpopulated NAS is £££ [21:04] it is on a 16-port controller as-is but it'd be nice to put it at the end of his garden as 'off-site' [21:05] daftykins: I dislike NAS devices [21:05] I bought a HP Microserver, it's about the same price, and it's a full PC that can do so much more. [21:05] takes 4 drives as standard, 6 and an SSD with a small hack. [21:05] yeah, but the server as-is is already a full PC [21:05] so don't need another one [21:05] * Azelphur shrugs [21:06] so far I only have a 2 and a 5 in it, which is working fine for me, plenty of room for expansion [21:06] already got 2 consumery two bay NASs up in the off-site building [21:06] ah, this is the one where we paid a kid to rip all his DVDs and have 4 x XBMC HTPCs around the house to play them [21:06] so the 12TB is near full [21:07] damn [21:07] if I was given that job, I'd buy a lego mindstorms kit and automate it. [21:07] i've never come up with a happy way to rip his blurays though, just not easy enough to make it a task his secretary can do - which is what he wants [21:07] lol [21:07] we had the little nettop HTPCs already so i did one basic XP install, years ago, then cloned it to the other 3 - with RDP enabled [21:07] all 4 stacked together with a switch 8D [21:08] hehe [21:09] but yeah, even makemkv isn't really ideal to get his secretary ripping his BDs [21:09] so the collection isn't really growing atm [21:10] :p === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [22:54] oooh, t-10mins, and they don't have any excuses so far [22:56] what's this you're watching? :) [22:56] the spacex falcon9 launch [22:56] I think/hope this is the one where they try to land the launch-stage [22:56] if it's not, I'm going to feel kinda pooped that I've watched them cancel it so many times :| [23:00] shauno: when i googled spacex i got "SpaceX is still tracking towards a 6:03pm ET liftoff of DSCOVR, but unfortunately we will not be able to attempt to recover the first stage of the..." [23:00] well pants [23:00] http://www.spacex.com/press/2015/02/11/dscovr-launch-update [23:00] I did watch the ESA one this afternon though. that was kinda fun [23:00] sorry to be the bearer of bad news :( [23:00] except they were all talking in french [23:00] sacre bleu [23:01] oh well. they can try to do it in the water then. as long as there's explosions I'm a happy kerbal :) [23:02] :D [23:02] i shall watch along too since it's so close [23:02] go go gadget fullscreen [23:02] rockets just never get boring [23:03] (and it's secretly fun when they get exciting heh) [23:05] :) [23:05] 599m/sec, aww yis [23:06] 1468m/sec :O [23:06] 2350 \o/ [23:11] pretty neat mission, just read [23:12] someone seemed to have just put a stargate up on the screen for a second then [23:13] heh [23:13] the esa one this afternoon was pretty neat too [23:13] testing a re-entry vehicle. so they launched a shuttle the size of a large car, from one side of south america to the other. the long way 'round [23:14] kinda sent it up to about the same altitude as the ISS, then fired it back to the floor at 20x speed of sound [23:14] :D [23:15] but it was purdy. very fast ascent. and the mini-shuttle looks like .. well, audi designed a shuttle lol [23:17] heh, go back to my TV ep and there was 5 seconds left [23:17] aww [23:23] it's really odd how some series don't have any editions better than DVD [23:23] case in point, "24" [23:24] first 6 seasons can't be had in better than SD === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [23:59] > Rocket soft landed in the ocean within 10m of target & nicely vertical! High probability of good droneship landing in non-stormy weather.