[02:06] <wwitzel3> blahdeblah_: not sure if you caught that earlier since I didn't direct it at you, but replacing the rsyslog-*.pem files in /var/log/juju with the ones from machine 0, and then restarting jujud for the machines is a manual work around.
[02:06] <ayr-ton> marcoceppi: Sending a merge request by tomorrow for the charms-tools enhancement.
[02:07] <ayr-ton> marcoceppi: Do you want me to send the merge request for the zabbix charm too? This one is in your account.
[02:34] <blr> am I right in thinking that I only need to provide keys in a helper.RelationContext's required_keys to get keys from a related service, or do I need to implement get_data()? Getting 'Incomplete relation' and having some trouble debugging it.
[02:36] <blr> the other service/charm has implemented provide_data(), returning a dict with the same keys in the related charm's required_keys
[08:40] <Muntaner> hi guys
[13:40] <marcoceppi> hey Muntaner
[16:05] <jcastro> http://askubuntu.com/questions/584716/what-does-juju-destroy-service-do-exactly
[16:06] <jcastro> some good questions coming in folks!
[16:06] <jcastro> marcoceppi, this one's for you: http://askubuntu.com/questions/584582/importerror-no-module-named-charm-toolbox-pairinggroup
[16:12] <lazyPower> jcastro: https://askubuntu.com/questions/584716/what-does-juju-destroy-service-do-exactly/584746#584746 - added an answer
[16:13] <lazyPower> my nested lists look like dookie though. i need some markdown school
[16:13] <jcastro> on it
[16:14] <mwak_> :)
[16:16] <lazyPower> oh you just tab it. nice.
[16:16] <lazyPower> thanks jcastro
[17:16] <marcoceppi> jcastro: why is that for me?
[17:16] <marcoceppi> that's not charm-tools
[17:16] <marcoceppi> this isn't even juju related
[17:17] <jcastro> I saw charm tool at the top
[17:19] <marcoceppi> jcastro: charm is something else, the python project is charmtools
[17:35] <sebas5384> revagomes: ping
[17:35] <sebas5384> hey guys! we are at the Drupal Conference contributing for the Drupal charm
[17:35] <sebas5384> https://github.com/sebas5384/charm-drupal
[17:40] <marcoceppi> sebas5384: o/
[17:41] <sebas5384> hey marcoceppi !
[17:43] <sebas5384> we have some problems with internet so its gonna be a slow code sprint hehe
[17:46] <marcoceppi> sebas5384: lmk if there's anything we can do to help!
[17:47] <sebas5384> thanks marcoceppi we are preparing the environment here
[17:47] <sebas5384> so actually we are waiting downloads and that kind of stuff
[17:49] <gnuoy> Am I right in thinking that you can't have an amulet sentry on a subordinate?
[17:50] <gnuoy> I'm writing some amulet tests for a subordinate charm and when I look at the available sentries I don't see one for the subordinate
[17:51] <marcoceppi> gnuoy: upi cam
[17:51] <marcoceppi> gnuoy: yo ucan't, but we don't use sentries anymore
[17:52] <marcoceppi> that's a limitation in juju, can't have subordinates on subordinates
[17:52] <marcoceppi> gnuoy: what version of amulet do you have?
[17:52] <gnuoy> marcoceppi, 1.9.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.04.1~ppa1
[17:53] <gnuoy> marcoceppi, what does upi stand for?
[17:53] <marcoceppi> yeah, this might be a bug where it's not showing up in the units list, we use juju-run under the hood now instead of sentries
[17:53] <marcoceppi> gnuoy: that was a lot of fat finger action
[17:53] <marcoceppi> gnuoy: "you can't"
[17:53] <gnuoy> ahh :)
[17:54] <marcoceppi> then I went to hit backspace but mashed return instead
[17:54] <marcoceppi> it's cold in my office today
[17:55] <gnuoy> marcoceppi, thanks for the help, much appreciated. I'll have a bit more of a dig and raise a bug if needs be.
[19:34] <blr> could someone please point me towards a good example of a charm on LP using charmhelper services helper.RelationContexts? Think I must be missing something fundamental that isn't clear in the docs.
[19:46] <bdx> I am trying to ascertain an understanding of the os-data-network, and flat-interface configs on the nova-compute charm. Does anyone know if these are refering to the same network, if only one or the other should be used, in what case does either matter?
[19:47] <bdx> It seems to me that the os-data-network should be the network on which the bridge-ip and flat-interface belong.... possibly I am missing something..
[19:47] <bdx> Any takers??
[19:53] <marcoceppi> blr: cory_fu should be able to point you in the right directoin
[19:54] <blr> marcoceppi: hey, thanks - I'll ping him.
[19:54] <marcoceppi> bdx: I'm not certain, but we have a whole team of charmers that work on openstack charms. The problem is their Europe based. There's a mailing list you can mail with your question though
[19:55] <marcoceppi> bdx: you can also mail the juju mailing list in general (juju@lists.ubuntu.com)
[20:45] <bdx> marcoceppi: Thanks!
[21:38] <catbus1> Hi, if juju state server fails to start, is there a way to export the MongoDB from this system and import it to a new env?
[21:38] <catbus1> Is this http://docs.mongodb.org/manual/core/import-export/ what I should follow?
[21:43] <marcoceppi> catbus1: noo idea, there's a juju backup but I'm not sure what that entails
[21:44] <marcoceppi> and the juju backup doesn't comply to plugin rules
[21:44] <marcoceppi> catbus1: but it does look like it does a mongoback
[21:52] <catbus1> marcoceppi: thanks for the pointer.