[03:50] <bukai> Good Morning 
[07:41] <soee> good morning
[09:48] <Riddell> sgclark: looks like much of 14.12.2 compiled fine, the kf5 bits still need retried because 5.7 is still incomplete so I'm running the retry script over that too
[10:08] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:31] <sitter> Riddell: btw kde4libs likely will need forced migration, it's been blocked for ages on unrelated nonsense :P
[10:36] <Riddell> meh, force migration scares me, someone from the release team always grumps at me about it
[10:38] <Sick_Rimmit> Goor morning lovelies
[10:39] <Sick_Rimmit> s/Goor/Good/
[10:39] <kubotu> Sick_Rimmit meant: "Good morning lovelies"
[10:39] <Riddell> hi Sick_Rimmit 
[10:40] <Sick_Rimmit> Hi.. 
[10:40] <Sick_Rimmit> Am hoping to get some time to do some packaging next week, will take a look at Kdevelop then
[10:41] <Sick_Rimmit> I've assigned it to me in Launchpad
[10:49] <Riddell> lovely
[10:51] <sitter> Riddell: we could always try to fix the underlying issues, but IIRC the problems are a bit
[10:51] <sitter> meh
[10:51] <sitter> e.g. cantor fails because some dep is not installing or something
[10:53] <Riddell> I had hoped that by overriding those cantor and other tests once it would remember that but it seems not
[12:24] <R33D3M33R> hi, the dropbox icon is not displaying in system tray (Kubuntu 15.04) ... the Dropbox client seems to be running
[12:24] <R33D3M33R> any idea how to fix?
[12:27] <sitter> Riddell: so what would you prefer? override or should I try to stab the failures away?
[12:27] <sitter> R33D3M33R: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/06/where-are-my-systray-icons/
[12:28] <R33D3M33R> sitter: thanks for the link!
[12:28] <Riddell> sitter: slangasek said they should be removed which I think means patching them out
[12:28] <sitter> the tests?
[12:29] <Riddell> yes
[12:29] <Riddell> I think
[12:29] <Riddell> you may want to confirm with him
[12:33] <sitter> not here can't be bothered to /join :P
[12:52] <sitter> the new pkg-kde-tools erroring out doesn't piss me off at all...
[13:21] <BluesKaj> Greetings from the Great White North
[13:22] <soee> ;o
[13:31] <sitter> Riddell: I can't even get contor to build in my local autopkgtext >.<
[13:31]  * sitter tries with qemu
[14:00] <sgclark> morning
[14:03] <Riddell> hi sgclark lass
[14:05] <sgclark> oh cantor , that the one asking for kf5 configs in qt4. I should not have uploaded :(
[14:05] <Riddell> ppc64el fail https://launchpadlibrarian.net/197422410/buildlog_ubuntu-vivid-ppc64el.khtml_5.7.0-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[14:05] <Riddell> sitter: when will kubuntu ci get ppc64el? surely that's easy to add :)
[14:06] <sitter> pft
[14:06] <sgclark> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343892
[14:07] <sgclark> 4.13? hmm
[14:17] <sitter> :@
[14:17] <sitter> Riddell: can't build cantor in autopkgtest it hates me or something
[14:17] <sitter> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10188801/
[14:17] <sitter> actually it's possibly pkg-kde-tools being garbage
[14:18] <sitter> on a related note
[14:18] <sitter> sgclark, Riddell: isn't cantor version supposed to be 14.12.2?
[14:18] <sitter> I only see .0
[14:19] <sitter> sgclark: also the breakage is not because of you
[14:19] <sgclark> right. 14.12.2
[14:19] <sitter> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cantor <- only .0
[14:19] <sitter> not uploaded or rejected?
[14:20] <sitter> Riddell: where's shadeslayer?
[14:22] <sgclark> sitter: oh possibly part of the rejected pile. alas probably best it did not get uploaded. http://goo.gl/Gy6Dya
[14:22] <sgclark> I am kinda confused on the answer to my bug
[14:23] <sgclark> why would 14.12.2 want 4.13 depend? lol
[14:24] <sitter> sgclark: because cantor is not ported yet so it cannot use the new antalitza
[14:24] <Riddell> sitter: nobody knows
[14:24] <sitter> which is a bit meh, but not entirely silly
[14:24] <sitter> Riddell: he wanted to discuss things and then he doesnt show up >.<
[14:24]  * sitter going to leave in half an hour
[14:24] <sitter> not feeling too well
[14:25] <sgclark> awww :( feel better
[14:25] <Riddell> I think it is entirely silly for upstream to release a dependency which isn't compatible with the application released together
[14:25] <sitter> Riddell: analitza is a library
[14:25] <sgclark> yeah I mentioned that on bug report, I don't think this is possible lol
[14:25] <sitter> Riddell: it's like there's kde4 applications even though there's kf5 libraries :P
[14:32] <sitter> Riddell, sgclark: when you upload cantor please make sure that you have the latest revision, I just add a potential fix for the failing test
[14:33] <sgclark> ok
[14:33] <sgclark> I don't see how it is possible though
[14:34] <sitter> how what is possible?
[14:34] <sgclark> it depends on analitza 4.13
[14:34] <sgclark> for kalgrebra backend
[14:37] <Riddell> it would need fancy packaging to have two versions of analitza in that archive
[14:37] <Riddell> which I'd be against as far too complex
[14:40] <sitter> not so sure about that, assuming the dev headers don't overlap only the -dev package name needs to be versioned to make it work
[14:40] <sitter> not sure how relevant analtiza in cantor is though
[14:41] <sgclark> kalgebra backend seems important, question tho, 4.13 is in vivid? I don't think so
[14:49] <Riddell> well no analitza 14.12 is in vivid because you just uploaded it :)
[14:51] <sgclark> lol
[14:52] <sitter> https://paste.kde.org/ptf6cmxtn
[14:53] <sitter> that should make 4.14 co-installable with 14.12
[14:55] <Riddell> you're too nice to them
[14:56] <sitter> Riddell: the marble test fail seems considerably more terrible, I think we might just as well disable the tests there
[14:56] <Riddell> sitter: yes I agree, I spoke to marble devs and they say it's expected they'll fail some of the time anyway
[14:56] <sitter> lol
[14:56] <Riddell> I'd still say if upstream can't release stuff that works together we shouldn't have to deal with the consequences
[14:56] <sitter> why people are ok with flaky tests I will never understand
[14:56] <sitter> Riddell: yeah
[14:56] <sitter> Riddell: what
[14:56] <sitter> Riddell: it works together :P
[14:57] <sitter> only bit that conflicts is calgebra
[14:57] <sitter> which I am not even sure why it is in that source
[14:57] <Riddell> infact I'm just right now rejecting folder-color-nemo and folder-color-caja on the grounds they're exactly the same as folder-color-nautilus but with the name changed for the respective fork of gnome2
[14:57] <sitter> that's not the same though is it
[14:59] <Riddell> no it's 3 times more nutty
[14:59] <Riddell> but 1 unit of nuttyness is stuff nuttyness :)
[14:59] <Riddell> but 1 unit of nuttyness is still nuttyness :)
[14:59] <sitter> you just don't like analitza :'<
[15:00] <Riddell> oh go ahead and duplicate
[15:00] <Riddell> just don't come crying to me when some app decides to load both qt4 and qt5 symbols at the same time
[15:00] <sitter> no, I am going to have a cuppa and do a bit of resting
[15:01] <sitter> made a patch, do with it what you will :P
[15:01]  * sitter out
[15:02] <Riddell> sgclark: do you want to use sitter's patch?
[15:05] <Riddell> sitter has started quitting irc in late afternoons, I wonder what he's up to for the rest of the day
[15:05]  * Riddell smells gossip
[15:07] <BluesKaj> heh, GF, maybe
[15:12] <Riddell> BF more likely
[15:13] <sgclark> :)
[15:14] <sgclark> Riddell: his patch does not help with my problem with analitza tho right?
[15:16] <Riddell> sgclark: it should do, it allows for an analitza4 package to be added with 4.13.3
[15:16] <Riddell> and then cantor can use the library made from that
[15:17] <sgclark> ok, fine with me, alas I do not have the rights on that package so if you could..
[15:22] <Riddell> oh but you could and get me to sign it :)
[15:25] <Riddell> meh kio has a test regression
[15:25] <sgclark> okies
[15:27] <sgclark> mm I dont see a patch
[15:27] <Riddell> he made https://paste.kde.org/ptf6cmxtn for analitza kf5
[15:28] <sgclark> oh I thought we were talking about cantor..
[15:28] <sgclark> analitza also no patch
[15:29] <sgclark> clearly I am confused
[15:30] <Riddell> analitza 14.12 needs https://paste.kde.org/ptf6cmxtn, then analitza 4.14.3 can be brought back as analitza4 which co-installs
[15:30] <Riddell> then cantor can get its analitza backend back using analitza4
[15:30] <Riddell> no?
[15:33] <sgclark> so I have to turn that paste into a patch? ...
[15:34] <Riddell> sgclark: just apply that patch to the debian/ directory of the analitza packaging
[15:34] <Riddell> but check over what it does, I haven't read it properly
[15:35] <Riddell> oh hang on that's the patch for the kdelibs4 version of analitza
[15:36] <Riddell> so grab the kdelibs4 version from bzr I guess and add the diff at https://paste.kde.org/ptf6cmxtn
[15:39] <sgclark> um wut? I am afraid I am not following and this patch has many errors.
[15:42] <Riddell> sgclark: bzr co lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/analitza
[15:42] <Riddell> wget  "https://paste.kde.org/ptf6cmxtn/dn9sfo/raw"
[15:42] <Riddell> patch -p1 < raw
[15:42] <Riddell> ignore line ending moans.  tidy up debian/changelog
[15:43] <Riddell> pick a sensible name, I like analitza4 to go with kate4 and konsole4, and apply that name to debian/changelog and debian/control top lines
[15:43] <Riddell> grab tar from download.kde.org
[15:44] <Riddell> and build it
[15:45] <Riddell> waa, arch dependent symbols on khtml, life is cruel
[15:49] <sgclark> Riddell: alright more than I thought, will have to do it a bit later, will this new 4 version need a git repo or?
[15:50] <Riddell> sgclark: nah I'd just update it in bzr
[15:50] <sgclark> okies, will get it done today, anything else?
[15:53] <Riddell> see if you can spot anything in http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html
[15:53] <Riddell> hmm kdepim not happy contactgrantleeprintobject.cpp:27:23: fatal error: kabc/lang.h: No such file or directory
[15:54] <sgclark> kabc... that was those missing symbols I think
[15:57] <sgclark> libkdeedu... does not match what is in git and I had fixed it.. not sure why the broken version got uploaded, sigh
[15:58] <Riddell> but that compiled
[15:58] <sgclark> it is on that list you just linked
[15:59] <Riddell> oh it's saying libkdeedu-dev won't install
[15:59] <Riddell> git does still say  Depends: kdelibs5-dev (>= 4:14.12.2)
[16:00] <sgclark> wait what? sigh
[16:00] <sgclark> git diff, nothing
[16:01] <sgclark> wth
[16:01] <sgclark> gitk shows it is fixed in kubunut_vivid_archive, but you show it is not?
[16:04] <Riddell> sgclark: not fixed for me
[16:04] <Riddell> sgclark: maybe you committed bit not pushed ?
[16:04] <Riddell> git diff --cached
[16:04] <sgclark> nothing
[16:06] <Riddell> try a fresh checkout and see, I just did   kgit applications libkdeedu  and it still has Depends: kdelibs5-dev (>= 4:14.12.2)
[16:14] <sgclark>  kdelibs5-dev (>= 4:4.14),
[16:15] <sgclark> kubuntu_vivid_archive right? alas I have to step away for a few, how do I do a single package for archive? git-buildpackage?
[16:26] <Riddell> sgclark: I have an alias set  alias git-buildpackage-real='git-buildpackage --git-ignore-branch --git-no-create-orig --git-ignore-new -S'
[16:26] <Riddell> but that still seems to need the .orig to be lying around
[16:26] <Riddell> sgclark: there's no update to the kubuntu_vivid_archive branch when I run a  git pull
[16:33] <sgclark> clearly something is amiss. is there a web view of debain git? I seem to be using a different git than you
[16:34] <sgclark> repo
[16:39] <sgclark> Riddell: ok I am not going crazy: https://alioth.debian.org/scm/browser.php?group_id=30221
[16:39] <sgclark> bah that link useless
[16:40] <sgclark> Riddell: https://alioth.debian.org/plugins/scmgit/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=pkg-kde/kde-applications/libkdeedu.git;a=blob_plain;f=debian/control;hb=012c602a80b13c4cbca73e1bd85f7dbc93d45542
[16:43] <Riddell> sgclark: this is the one http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/kde-applications/libkdeedu.git/
[16:44] <Riddell> I don't know how that matches 
[16:45] <sgclark> kdelibs5-dev (>= 4:4.14),
[16:46] <sgclark> Riddell: anyway sending you stuff to sign with fixed verrsion
[16:46] <Riddell> sgclark: put this in your ~/.gitconfig  https://paste.kde.org/pxwnlkdxp
[16:46] <Riddell> with your username instead of mine
[16:47] <yofel> Riddell: sidenote: please make sure to *not* use debian: in the automation scripts, not everyone has that mapped the same way
[16:48] <Riddell> meh, they should
[16:48] <yofel> I fixed what I found so far
[16:48] <Riddell> thanks
[16:50] <Riddell> sgclark: http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/libkdeedu_14.12.2-0ubuntu1.dsc 
[16:50] <sgclark> Riddell: I already have that in my gitconfig. my repo matches uppstream..
[16:50] <Riddell> http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/libkdeedu_14.12.2-0ubuntu1_source.changes
[16:50] <sgclark> thanks
[16:51] <Riddell> sgclark: then I'm very confused why I can't see your changes in git :(
[16:51] <sgclark> as am I
[16:54] <Riddell> sgclark: actually I don't see your change on the alioth version either
[16:54] <Riddell> so I think alioth is just a mirror of the git.debian version
[16:54] <Riddell> https://alioth.debian.org/plugins/scmgit/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=pkg-kde/kde-applications/libkdeedu.git;a=blob;f=debian/control;h=39970083866f0be4a3b56b98f077c6a3beb34004;hb=refs/heads/kubuntu_vivid_archive
[16:54] <Riddell> line 36 still "Depends: kdelibs5-dev (>= 4:14.12.2),"
[16:55] <sgclark> kdelibs5-dev (>= 4:4.14),
[16:55] <sgclark> is what I see
[16:55] <Riddell> sgclark: wrong line, look at line 36
[16:55] <Riddell> the depends, not the build-depends
[16:55] <sgclark> gosh well lol
[16:55] <sgclark> ok lol fixing.. 
[16:56] <sgclark> and making more coffee, sorry
[16:56] <Riddell> you know sometimes the problem is too much coffee :)
[16:56]  * genii 's ears perk up 
[17:03] <sgclark> Riddell: files to be signed again lol
[17:03] <sgclark> brb
[17:05] <Riddell> sgclark: http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/libkdeedu_14.12.2-0ubuntu2.dsc http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/libkdeedu_14.12.2-0ubuntu2_source.changes
[17:24] <sgclark> Riddell: You don't have permission to access /~jr/tmp/libkdeedu_14.12.2-0ubuntu2.dsc on this server.
[17:27] <Riddell> sgclark: try now
[17:28] <sgclark> worked thanks
[17:32] <sgclark> Riddell: ok so will just fixing the package remove it from that list, or do I need to do something else?
[17:42] <Riddell> sgclark: libkdeedu? should do
[17:42] <Riddell> the list at people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html is the output from the first half of the checking that gets done to check if the package can move from -proposed to -release
[17:44] <sgclark> k
[20:55] <soee> oh some error when processing /var/cache/apt/archives/debconf-kde-data_1.0.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[20:57] <soee> something like:
[20:57] <soee> dpkg: error proccessing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/debconf-kde-data_1.0.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb (--unpack):
[20:57] <soee>  trying to overwrite "/usr/share/locale/nb/LC_MESSAGES/libdebconf-kde.mo", that also exists in package libdebconf-kde0 0.3-1