[00:59] <Elleo> alnutile: the best tablet option is probably the nexus 7 at the moment, it's one of the officially supported devices
[01:00] <Elleo> alnutile: (2013 edition)
[01:00] <alnutile> thanks!
[01:00] <alnutile> I saw the nexus 10 as well would that do?
[01:00] <alnutile> or not officially supported
[01:01] <Elleo> yep, pretty sure the nexus 10 is officially supported too
[01:01] <Elleo> alnutile: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices <-- lists the 3 officially supported reference devices, nexus 4, 7 and 10
[01:03] <alnutile> yes thanks Elleo sorry if I was not clear I wanted to verify the docs where up to date. Thanks!
[01:03] <alnutile> I will go with those notes
[01:06] <Elleo> alnutile: yep, a quick check on the image server confirms that images are being generated for manta (nexus 10)
[01:06] <Elleo> alnutile: so you shouldn't have any major problems
[01:07] <Elleo> alnutile: that said most of the focus has been on the phone stuff recently, so some aspects of the interface might not be ideal for tablets just yet (pretty sure things work decently though)
[01:08] <Elleo> I don't have an ubuntu tablet myself, just phones so couldn't say for sure
[01:09] <alnutile> cool thanks again
[01:10] <Elleo> no problem :)
[07:59] <akiva-thinkpad> !ping
[07:59] <akiva-thinkpad> Hey all
[08:52] <mzanetti> popey: should calendar sync with google still work?
[08:52] <popey> yes
[08:53] <mzanetti> I've set up my google account but the calendar doesn't show any events
[08:53] <mzanetti> it does show the calendar in the app, but no entries from it
[08:55] <popey> mzanetti: hit the sync buttron
[08:55] <mzanetti> I did already
[08:55] <popey> mzanetti: i had a problem with sync and filed a bug, renato was looking at it
[08:55] <popey> there is a synclog in ~/.cache/upstart
[08:55] <mzanetti> popey: there seems to be an issue with my calendar... thunderbird doesn't show anything in there any more either
[08:56] <popey> ah
[08:56] <popey> good :)
[08:58] <popey> mzanetti: we will talk in a bit, but on my device I can't sign into evernote, i get a blank screen after the sign in
[08:58] <popey> mzanetti: is there a log anywhere?
[09:03] <mzanetti> well, the app's log is in ~/.cache/upstart/application-click-com.ubuntu.reminders.log
[09:03] <popey> yeah, this is outside the app
[09:03] <mzanetti> however, this sounds like OA
[09:03] <popey> am removing to clean up
[09:04] <mzanetti> I've seen this on vivid builds too
[09:04] <mzanetti> you on vivid with this device?
[09:04] <popey> i have seen it in hte past, not recently
[09:04] <popey> no, rtm
[09:04] <mzanetti> was working on rtm for me
[09:04] <popey> ok, I'll push buttons a bit harder :)
[09:05] <mzanetti> thanks... we really need to get this working :/
[09:05] <popey> ya
[09:16] <popey> mzanetti: dpm hangout?
[09:16] <dpm> yep
[09:16] <mzanetti> yep
[09:31] <mzanetti> popey: worked just fine
[09:31] <mzanetti> popey: on my dogfooding rtm device
[09:31] <mzanetti> popey: however, I did see this issue when I last flashed a developer device with devel-proposed. and I know it's totally random
[09:33] <popey> yeah, my nexus 7 works fine
[09:33] <popey> hmmm
[09:35] <dpm> popey, do you know where I can find out the current image revision numbers of the n4 rtm proposed and non-proposed channels?
[09:35] <popey> dpm: landing call emails from sil2100
[09:35] <popey> is the best place
[09:36] <mzanetti> dpm: ubuntu-device-flash --device  <dev> --channel devel-proposed
[09:36] <popey> mzanetti: ok, so my krillin online accounts is buggered
[09:36] <mzanetti> dpm: it' will start downloading, just cancel it with ctrl+c
[09:36] <popey> not sure how to unbugger it
[09:36] <mzanetti> dpm: it'll print the version number
[09:37] <mzanetti> popey: I guess we should try to get mardy get his hands on it
[09:37] <mzanetti> maybe one of his devices reproduces it, odds are not that bad
[09:37] <dpm> mzanetti, thanks, I think that's going to be the easiest option
[09:37] <popey> mzanetti: have you seen an existing bug on this?
[09:38] <popey> happy to file one.
[09:38] <mzanetti> nope, haven't
[09:38] <dpm> but is there not a .json file somewhere I could just see the image number?
[09:38]  * mardy reads the backlog
[09:38] <dpm> popey, not sure in which part of the e-mail I can see the revision numbers for all channels
[09:38] <mzanetti> mardy: summary: on some devices, after logging in with OA we end up in a white screen
[09:39] <popey> mardy: http://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2015-02-12-091915.png like that
[09:39] <popey> my krillin does this, my flo is fine using the same account.
[09:39] <mardy> mzanetti, popey: that is when creating the account, right? or is it in the app?
[09:40] <mzanetti> when creating the account. that screen is not from the app
[09:40] <popey> creating account. I just went to system settings -> accounts -> evernote, directly. didnt use the app at all
[09:40] <mardy> mzanetti: is that screen the first thing that you see, or does that happen after entering your username and password?
[09:40] <mzanetti> mardy: it's the "exit" screen, at least in my cases
[09:41] <mzanetti> popey: does that match with your experience? ^
[09:41] <mardy> mzanetti: maybe it's waiting for the username
[09:41] <mzanetti> yeah, something like that.... but it never seems to recover
[09:41] <mzanetti> until the user presses cancel... so something seems to get lost on the way
[09:43] <mardy> mzanetti: worked here (rtm); does it happen all the time?
[09:45] <mzanetti> mardy: when it starts happening, it seems to fail reliably all the times
[09:45] <mzanetti> on devices where it works, it keeps working usually
[09:45] <mzanetti> flashing with --wipe might flip the device to the other side
[09:46] <popey> mzanetti: yes
[09:46] <mzanetti> mardy: can we get you some logs? popey currently has a device to repro
[09:47] <mardy> mzanetti, popey: definitely:
[09:47] <popey> mardy: i get an email from evernote telling me I successfully connected my device. but I get the white screen forever
[09:47] <mardy> export OAU_LOGGING_LEVEL=2
[09:47] <mardy> export OAU_DAEMON_TIMEOUT=9999
[09:47] <mardy> online-accounts-service
[09:47] <mardy> popey: ^
[09:47] <popey> ok
[09:51] <popey> mardy: mzanetti https://pastebin.canonical.com/125503/
[09:52] <popey> odd that it lists an oath token from evernote then one from wiki.ubuntu.com?
[09:52] <popey> why is it referring to wiki.ubuntu.com?
[09:53] <mardy> popey: that's just the callback URI we use, it's not even navigating to that page --no worries, all is normal there
[09:53] <mardy> popey: I can see that the OAuth token is obtained, but the logs stop there
[09:54] <mardy> mzanetti: is there a way to enable the evernote plugin logs?
[09:54] <mzanetti> heh... I usually set those callbacks to special://foo.bar/toke=blabla
[09:54] <mzanetti> mardy: not that I know of, no
[09:55] <popey> few more lines...
[09:55] <popey> ../../../../lib/SignOn/connection-manager.cpp 171 onDisconnected Disconnected from daemon
[09:55] <popey> ../../../../lib/SignOn/async-dbus-proxy.cpp 218 setDisconnected
[09:55] <popey> thats it...
[09:55] <popey> ../../../../lib/SignOn/async-dbus-proxy.cpp 218 setDisconnected
[09:55] <popey> ../../../../lib/SignOn/async-dbus-proxy.cpp 218 setDisconnected
[10:04] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Lost Penny Day! :-D
[10:42] <mbr__> hi, long term coder, total noob with ubuntu touch sdk, here ... goal is to burn it into my mtk phone ... any help?
[10:45] <mbr__> no kind souls willing to help a wandering guy?
[10:46] <mbr__> holy crap ... there's no manual to read that's why I'm here ... my major problem is that the boot process on my phone is in chinese
[10:48] <popey> mbr__: which device?
[10:52] <mbr__> lava iris 708
[10:53] <mbr__> it's a mediatek 6582m based device currently sold in thailand
[10:54] <mbr__> but there are plenty phones out there with the same specs ... bq acquarius e5 (sold in spain) is one ...
[10:54] <mbr__> ... Android One, are the same crap
[10:55] <mbr__> I have three buttons, starting from off and turning it on using voldown+power brings to a chinese (taiwan?) menu full of options but I can't read it
[10:56] <mbr__> I suppose it is taiwanese (cantonese?) because usb vendor and product ids are HTC ones ... despite the fact that the brand is not HTC
[10:59] <mbr__> after many tries I managed (using iroot to root) to get a CWM 5.x (obsolete) recovery image (the factory one was kinda weird... buttons scrambled)
[10:59] <mbr__> and fastboot mode doesn't work much ... can reboot, continue, etc, but oem commands stuck to '...' output
[11:01] <mbr__> basically the hw is an exact clone of the first european Ubuntu Touch (bq Acquarius) ... but I can't flash using ubuntu-device-flash or fastboot because of a different device id in the nvram/bootloader/whatever
[11:05] <mbr__> I spent the last 90 minutes digging into ROMs with an hex editor with the idea to adapt them to my device id (something like LAVA82_SD20)
[11:06] <mbr__> there are probably some mem offsets to change too ... the nand is organized in a weird way ... as usual ... but that's not a problem, I've nand and mem maps extracted from the original boot.img
[11:07] <mbr__> so, to make it shorter ... what do you all suggest to get Ubuntu Touch on my device? Ubuntu SDK compile and pack a custom ROM or continue on the reverse path?
[11:15] <mbr__> brb
[11:23] <akiva-thinkpad> zbenjamin, ping
[11:23] <zbenjamin> akiva-thinkpad: hey
[11:24] <akiva-thinkpad> zbenjamin, it appears I have a fairly stable version working.
[11:24] <akiva-thinkpad> would you mind testing it?
[11:24] <akiva-thinkpad> passively
[11:26] <akiva-thinkpad> its not the final product, as I have not embedded the widget yet into projects->MyProject->Run
[11:33] <akiva-thinkpad> zbenjamin, https://code.launchpad.net/~akiva/qtcreator-plugin-autopilot/trunk if you are interested.
[11:50] <popey> mzanetti: added pdf and some iphone photos to the evernote 300 account
[11:50] <mzanetti> popey: thanks a lot!
[11:53] <snizzo> how to enable developer mode in newest build of utouch?
[11:53] <popey> system settings -> about phone
[12:17] <snizzo> popey: is it normal for music app not playing mp3 in nexus 5 latest devel build?
[12:18] <ogra_> it is never normal for music app not playing mp3 :)
[12:19] <snizzo> ogra_: I was thinking about codec license problems. ok then it's my fault
[12:20]  * ogra_ has only flac on his device atm .... these play on a freshly upgraded device 
[12:20] <popey> should work
[12:20] <popey> if it doesn't then it's a bug
[12:22] <snizzo> mm also indicator-sound seems broken here...
[12:22] <snizzo> anyone using nexus 5 in this channel?
[12:22] <ogra_> sounds more like a genral prob with sound then
[12:23] <ogra_> popey, say hi to laura :)
[12:25] <popey> "awww he lovely" (in an irish accent)
[12:25] <ogra_> haha
[12:25] <snizzo> yeah I'm convinced it's a bug related to my installation
[12:43] <snizzo> popey: audio is broken in latest nexus 5 devel build (194). Don't know if this is or not your concern, well I'm telling :)
[12:44] <popey> sadly not me.
[12:47] <davmor2> snizzo: not canonical's concern nexus 5 isn't officially supported, but if you mention it to the people making the build they might be able to fix it
[12:50] <snizzo> davmor2: short package namespace influences installation folder? is different from name?
[12:52] <davmor2> snizzo: I have no idea what that is meant to mean sorry
[12:53] <snizzo> I'm updating an app, but they asked me for a short package namespace...
[12:53] <snizzo> I'm loading a file directly from installation folder so I have to know what this will be
[12:54] <beuno> snizzo, so
[12:54] <beuno> it does
[12:54] <beuno> you can continue to upload under the old namespace format
[12:55] <snizzo> ah ok
[12:55] <beuno> we'll ask you to set the new format, so you're ready to upload new apps to it
[12:55] <beuno> namespaces are what define apps
[12:55] <beuno> if you switch, it's effectively a new app
[12:55] <beuno> I would guess, you don't want that
[12:55] <snizzo> ahhh no I don't
[12:55] <beuno> OTOH, I'd stronly suggest you don't hardcode the path
[12:56] <beuno> it can and will change
[12:56] <beuno> there's a variable, which I don't have handy atm, that will fill in the path to your app for you
[12:56] <beuno> bzoltan_ or zbenjamin might know
[12:57] <snizzo> I'd love to know that :)
[12:57] <beuno> jdstrand might know as well
[12:57] <mivoligo> hi everyone :)
[13:00] <akiva-thinkpad> zbenjamin, or bzoltan_ Well I'm about to head off. No obligation of course, but I would appreciate if either of you could try it out, and just let me know if its detecting and running your tests properly.
[13:00] <mivoligo> I have a problem with "colors: UbuntuColors.red" or "colors: UbuntuColors.green" or any other color. They do not work for me. The only one working is "colors: UbuntuColors.orange" Anyone have any idea about this?
[13:00] <akiva-thinkpad> zbenjamin, you mentioned to me that I should push it upstream; what lp would you want that in?
[13:00] <akiva-thinkpad>  https://code.launchpad.net/~akiva/qtcreator-plugin-autopilot/trunk btw
[13:01] <akiva-thinkpad> mivoligo, make sure you import is not 0.1
[13:01] <mivoligo> akiva-thinkpad: it is1.1
[13:02] <akiva-thinkpad> mivoligo, ubuntu components?
[13:02] <mivoligo> akiva-thinkpad: yes
[13:02] <akiva-thinkpad> popey, is 1.1 the latest version for ubuntu components?
[13:03] <akiva-thinkpad> bah they must all be busy atm with a meeting or something.
[13:03] <mivoligo> akiva-thinkpad: can you test if it works for you?
[13:04] <akiva-thinkpad> mivoligo, is ctrl + <spacebar> autocompleting the UbuntuColors.* for you?
[13:04] <mivoligo> akiva-thinkpad: no
[13:04]  * akiva-thinkpad jumps into qml
[13:06] <akiva-thinkpad> mivoligo, you are using the sdk right?
[13:06] <mivoligo> akiva-thinkpad: right
[13:07] <akiva-thinkpad> mivoligo, have you checked synaptic to make sure you have the packages intalled?
[13:07] <akiva-thinkpad> what version of ubuntu are you on?
[13:07] <mivoligo> akiva-thinkpad: 14.04 and SDK from PPA
[13:08] <akiva-thinkpad> Not an expert, but 14.04 may have old packages.
[13:08] <akiva-thinkpad> mivoligo, did it work before?
[13:08] <mivoligo> akiva-thinkpad: no idea, never tried before
[13:09] <mivoligo> akiva-thinkpad: but as I said it works with "orange"
[13:09] <akiva-thinkpad> mivoligo, because green and blue are new editions.
[13:09] <akiva-thinkpad> mivoligo, is it autocompleting for orange?
[13:09] <mivoligo> no
[13:10] <akiva-thinkpad> mivoligo, that box doesnt come up in qtcreator?
[13:11] <akiva-thinkpad> mivoligo, http://i.imgur.com/etCBG6I.png
[13:11] <akiva-thinkpad> that?
[13:11] <mivoligo> akiva-thinkpad: I tried with Rectangle. It shows up but it's white
[13:11] <akiva-thinkpad> thats not showing up?
[13:11] <mivoligo> akiva-thinkpad: I don't have UbuntuColors there
[13:12] <akiva-thinkpad> mivoligo, does that box show up for anything though?
[13:12] <mivoligo> akiva-thinkpad: yes, UbuntuAnimation, UbuntuShape and so on
[13:13] <akiva-thinkpad> mivoligo, hmmmmm okay
[13:13] <akiva-thinkpad> interesting
[13:14] <akiva-thinkpad> mivoligo, just an fyi, ubuntu colors early version only had orange and aubergine, along with coolgrey and warmgrey
[13:14] <mivoligo> akiva-thinkpad: are you on 15.04
[13:14] <akiva-thinkpad> mivoligo, can you tell me if the following work:
[13:14] <mivoligo> ?
[13:14] <akiva-thinkpad> mivoligo, 14.10
[13:14] <mivoligo> ok
[13:14] <akiva-thinkpad> mivoligo, try 	UbuntuColors.coolGrey
[13:14] <akiva-thinkpad> thats an old color
[13:15] <akiva-thinkpad> returns #333333 if I recall
[13:15] <mivoligo> akiva-thinkpad: yep, it is working
[13:16] <akiva-thinkpad> mivoligo, okay so you have the old library.
[13:16] <akiva-thinkpad> mivoligo, 			UbuntuColors.green
[13:16] <akiva-thinkpad> that should not work
[13:16] <mivoligo> akiva-thinkpad: can I update it staying on 14.04?
[13:16] <akiva-thinkpad> can you try?
[13:17] <mivoligo> akiva-thinkpad: tried before, not working
[13:17] <akiva-thinkpad> mivoligo, I don't know. I was on 14.04, and noticed some anomolies when using packages.
[13:17] <akiva-thinkpad> its always best to develop on the current or beta release.
[13:18] <mivoligo> akiva-thinkpad: I know but 14.04 is so nice :)
[13:18] <akiva-thinkpad> mivoligo, its exactly like 14.10 and 15.04 :P
[13:19] <mivoligo> but LTS
[13:21] <akiva-thinkpad> mivoligo, here compare with this http://i.imgur.com/IOceYoi.png
[13:21] <akiva-thinkpad> if your packages are more or less the same version as what I have in there, then I don't know.
[13:21] <mivoligo> akiva-thinkpad: thanks :)
[13:21] <akiva-thinkpad> if not, then double check that ppa I guess :)
[13:23] <mivoligo> akiva-thinkpad: 0.1 here :(
[13:23] <akiva-thinkpad> mivoligo, better double check that ppa then
[13:25] <mivoligo> akiva-thinkpad: it's from here: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-sdk/installing-the-sdk/
[13:27] <akiva-thinkpad> mivoligo, are your sure you have the ppa?
[13:27] <mivoligo> akiva-thinkpad: yes :)
[13:30] <akiva-thinkpad> mivoligo, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm don't know what to tell you. Download the ppa manually?
[13:30] <akiva-thinkpad> .deb*
[13:32] <mivoligo> akiva-thinkpad: hmm, I think the ppa still has 0.1 for 14.04
[13:32] <akiva-thinkpad> mivoligo, you could have installed 14.10 by now :)
[13:32] <akiva-thinkpad> just saying
[13:33] <mivoligo> :D I'll stay on 14.04
[13:33] <mivoligo> akiva-thinkpad: nevermind, thanks for your help
[13:34] <akiva-thinkpad> mivoligo, good luck; sorry I suck at this sort of thing :P
[13:34] <mivoligo> akiva-thinkpad: you don't :)
[13:34] <akiva-thinkpad> :1
[13:38] <mivoligo> akiva-thinkpad: anyway my intention was to check if "red", "green" and "blue" are the same in SDK as in the new design guide: https://design.ubuntu.com/apps/style/colour-palette
[13:40] <akiva-thinkpad> mivoligo, i would be extremely surprised if it wasn't.
[13:41] <akiva-thinkpad> mivoligo, you do know about the showcase app right?
[13:41] <mivoligo> akiva-thinkpad: I made a webpage with color palette for GIMP and Inkscape http://colors.mivoligo.com/ and now the colors are different in the guide
[13:42] <mivoligo> akiva-thinkpad: but I don't see changes in the code
[13:42] <akiva-thinkpad> mivoligo, I actually have a color chart, that mhall tossed on the website.
[13:43] <akiva-thinkpad> if you eye drop them from the website,  then you see inconsistencies
[13:43] <akiva-thinkpad> https://design.ubuntu.com/brand/colour-palette
[13:44] <mivoligo> akiva-thinkpad: there's no blue, green on red there :)
[13:45] <akiva-thinkpad> mivoligo, mmm yes, as they were added before I did that...
[13:45] <akiva-thinkpad> I guess that will have to be updated
[13:45] <akiva-thinkpad> good catch
[13:46] <mivoligo> akiva-thinkpad: well that site is about Ubuntu brand rather then colors used in the applications
[13:46] <akiva-thinkpad> still; it should be updated.
[13:47] <mivoligo> agree
[13:47] <akiva-thinkpad> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[13:48] <akiva-thinkpad> i'm about to fall asleep
[13:48] <mivoligo> akiva-thinkpad: o/
[13:48] <akiva-thinkpad> \o
[14:03] <mzanetti> popey: https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/reminders-app/fix-evernote-reject/+merge/249490
[14:04] <popey> ack
[14:08] <renatu> rmescandon|lunch, I have a fix for bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/address-book-app/+bug/1419854
[14:09] <renatu> rmescandon|lunch, silo 7 could you help me to test it
[14:09] <rmescandon|lunch> renatu, yep
[14:11] <Mirv> popey: did you get the screenshots? it'd be worth a look, even though probably the situation is good.
[14:12] <popey> trying!
[14:12] <popey> failing
[14:12] <popey> unity crashing before I even update to 5.4
[14:12] <popey> so failing to even get a base line
[14:12] <popey> will keep at it
[14:26] <Mirv> popey: it's kind of good news to me when something crashes _before_ updating :)
[14:28] <zbenjamin> akiva-thinkpad: upstream would mean to the qtcreator upstream itself :)
[14:29] <akiva-thinkpad> zbenjamin, doh
[14:29] <akiva-thinkpad> zbenjamin, am about to head out; what do you want me to do for tomorrow?
[14:31] <zbenjamin> akiva-thinkpad: i need to check it out, but you implemented the runconfigfactory good job :)
[14:33] <akiva-thinkpad> zbenjamin, yah it seems to be working fine. I intend to copy more closer to your example, but tbh; most of the functions arent being used so :P
[14:34] <zbenjamin> akiva-thinkpad: i wonder why you do not create a config per test instead of having the user open the runconfig settings and select there from a listview
[14:35] <akiva-thinkpad> zbenjamin, well if I understand that right, then you would have a very long list of run configurations
[14:35] <zbenjamin> akiva-thinkpad: hmm yeah one for each test... hmm
[14:36] <akiva-thinkpad> zbenjamin, I sort of have both, its just that the menu actions aren't done via a run config
[14:36] <zbenjamin> akiva-thinkpad: in that case i would not let the user choose in the settings, but instead if the runconfig is selected and the user presses run , then popup a dialog where he can select the test to run or run all tests
[14:36] <akiva-thinkpad> zbenjamin, I intend to put them in ctrl+k as well
[14:37] <akiva-thinkpad> zbenjamin, not a bad idea. The one thing I want to impliment, is a check system to see if the test was successful
[14:37] <zbenjamin> akiva-thinkpad: i still do not like the menuitems... they are not straight forward if you have multiple projects loaded. Always think that the user can have multiple projects loaded at once. A runconfig is visually linked to the project a menuitem is not
[14:37] <akiva-thinkpad> zbenjamin, so if it passes, the background of the test in the itemlist would turn green.
[14:38] <akiva-thinkpad> zbenjamin, well it does list the app, and the test in the menu items
[14:38] <zbenjamin> akiva-thinkpad: hmm, you could also create a custom output pane on the bottom. In additon to the Applicaiton output , compile output and so on. And there you list all failed and successful tests
[14:38] <akiva-thinkpad> zbenjamin, I could try to do it where there would be a sub-menu for each app; what about that?
[14:39] <zbenjamin> akiva-thinkpad: please not :). Why do you need the menuitems so desperately if there are the runconfigs?
[14:39] <akiva-thinkpad> zbenjamin, to do individual tests quickly and to use the hud.
[14:39] <akiva-thinkpad> i only discovered ctrl+k a week ago funny enough
[14:39] <zbenjamin> akiva-thinkpad: yeah but if they are included into Ctrl+K you can do quick access without the menu and hud
[14:40] <akiva-thinkpad> true. I didn't know about it at the time. bzoltan_ said that I might as well keep it in just for the hud.
[14:41] <zbenjamin> akiva-thinkpad: i guess you can not register anything to the hud without menuitems?
[14:41] <akiva-thinkpad> zbenjamin, You folks are ultimately the choosers. I am a frequent hud user so it made sense for me.
[14:41] <akiva-thinkpad> zbenjamin, that is a very good question...
[14:41] <zbenjamin> akiva-thinkpad: i wonder if you could provide a plugin that integrates the locator completely into the hud ....
[14:41] <akiva-thinkpad> zbenjamin, well you know, recent projects don't register in the hud
[14:42] <akiva-thinkpad> zbenjamin, ctrl+k is the locater right?
[14:42] <zbenjamin> yes
[14:42] <zbenjamin> it can do lots of stuff
[14:42] <akiva-thinkpad> zbenjamin, I would look into it for unity8
[14:43] <zbenjamin> akiva-thinkpad: cool , could be a ubuntu specific hud plugin that does only registering stuff to the hud
[14:43] <akiva-thinkpad> zbenjamin, as that will need its hud reimplimented.
[14:43] <akiva-thinkpad> zbenjamin, its a good idea. I had a long time ago wanted to get a terminal inside the dash or the hud.
[14:44] <akiva-thinkpad> anyways neither here nor there.
[14:44] <sturmflut-work> mivoligo: Congratulations on https://pledgie.com/campaigns/28298 ! And for 222 euros you could buy an additional Nexus 4 from eBay besides the E4.5 ;)
[14:44] <zbenjamin> akiva-thinkpad: ok personally i would prefer to drop the menu stuff
[14:44] <zbenjamin> akiva-thinkpad: for the output of success/failed you can use a output pane
[14:44] <akiva-thinkpad> zbenjamin, you definitely want me to get it into ctrl k?
[14:44] <akiva-thinkpad> yes thats on the todo.
[14:44] <zbenjamin> akiva-thinkpad: if you want quick access then yes
[14:44] <akiva-thinkpad> havn't got around to it.
[14:45] <zbenjamin> akiva-thinkpad: just check how compile issues / warnings are listed you can do something similar
[14:45] <akiva-thinkpad> zbenjamin, just curious; the main issue with the menu, is that you don't want it taking up space?
[14:45] <zbenjamin> akiva-thinkpad: i think it fragments the whole story. Executing stuff from a menu just does not fit in any qtc pattern
[14:46] <zbenjamin> and its hard to discover
[14:46] <akiva-thinkpad> I don't disagree
[14:46] <zbenjamin> akiva-thinkpad: don't have multiple places for the same thing
[14:46] <akiva-thinkpad> although I never knew about ctrl k
[14:46] <zbenjamin> yeah its pretty powerful
[14:46] <akiva-thinkpad> I would have discovered it before I discovered the locator
[14:47] <akiva-thinkpad> zbenjamin, we do have the bazar in the locator and the menu
[14:47] <zbenjamin> Ctrl+K is the locator
[14:47] <zbenjamin> yes we do
[14:47] <zbenjamin> akiva-thinkpad: you can view diffs and stuff directly in qtc
[14:47] <zbenjamin> its nice
[14:47]  * akiva-thinkpad should try the diffs. 
[14:48] <zbenjamin> akiva-thinkpad: but one of the best features is that you can search the codemodel
[14:48] <akiva-thinkpad> zbenjamin, okay; if thats what it takes to get autopilot in; thats what it takes.
[14:48] <zbenjamin> akiva-thinkpad: so if you just know a symbol name you do  Ctrl+K : <symbolname>
[14:48] <zbenjamin> akiva-thinkpad: i would suggest , first do the runconfig and the output pane
[14:48] <zbenjamin> akiva-thinkpad: the other stuff is convenience it can wait
[14:49] <akiva-thinkpad> zbenjamin, have you tried it yet btw?
[14:49] <akiva-thinkpad> because I have the run config working
[14:49] <akiva-thinkpad> thats what I wanted others to test.
[14:49] <zbenjamin> akiva-thinkpad: not yet, i was reading the code though.
[14:50] <akiva-thinkpad> zbenjamin, yah it gets put in, and will let you open multiple projects fine, and it will save it to your project.
[14:50] <zbenjamin> akiva-thinkpad: good work so far :)
[14:50] <akiva-thinkpad> thanks
[14:51] <mivoligo> sturmflut-work: are they that cheap?
[14:51] <akiva-thinkpad> but anyways; the video I took yesterday is out of date. This is basically a stable version, or at least my testing has shown it as such.
[14:52] <zbenjamin> akiva-thinkpad: ok, now didn't you want to go somewhere? :D
[14:53] <akiva-thinkpad> zbenjamin, bed
[14:53] <akiva-thinkpad> you europeans make it rough on me :P
[14:53]  * zbenjamin switches off akiva-thinkpad's screen
[14:53] <zbenjamin> lol
[14:58] <justCarakas> gnight akiva
[14:58] <mivoligo> sturmflut-work: anyway 222 was my mistake. The page displayed amount in USD, after that it asked about currency. I was thinking it will recalculate USD to EUR but it didn't :)
[14:59] <justCarakas> who is working on the porting guide ?
[14:59] <justCarakas> maybe that person can reply on the mailing list, some ppl are complaining that the guide has been down for 3 months
[17:46] <sturmflut_> mivoligo: I was your first backer and I don't care if you keep the excess money for yourself, if someone deserves it then it's you. And mzanetti of course ;)
[17:49] <mzanetti> oh, did he make it now?
[17:49] <mzanetti> ahaha... 13€ to go :D
[17:50] <mzanetti> I'm not worried this won't work out :) Curios if he makes it before the next flash sale :D
[19:07] <flexiondotorg_> When 14.04.2 is released with the HWE stuff be enabled by default or remain a post-install apt-get for the user?
[19:55] <pmcgowan> nik90, is this resolved https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1354466
[19:56] <Yami> Hello hello ^
[19:57] <nik90> pmcgowan: I am afraid not. I will check with dpm tomorrow morning on how to resolve it best.
[19:57] <pmcgowan> nik90, thanks
[19:57] <nik90> pmcgowan: np. Will you update you tomorrow morning.
[19:58] <Yami> the emulator ask me about a passphrase, someone know wich one is?
[19:59] <nik90> Yami: the default password is 0000
[20:00] <nik90> Yami: although if you are trying to run your app on the emulator via qtc, then you wouldn't require it
[20:00] <Yami> thank you ^
[20:00] <nik90> Yami: since qtcreator should automatically unlock it and show you the app running
[20:00] <nik90> np :)
[20:00] <Yami> ok :D
[20:24] <ahoneybun> mhall119, http://www.pluralsight.com/courses/integrating-qt-quick-cpp
[20:52] <mivoligo> sturmflut: many thanks :) sorry if I sounded not polite
[21:15] <mhall119> kalikiana: Mirv: Kaleo: can you guys tell me what packages contain QML API docs for everything we support?
[21:16] <mhall119> I have #qtdeclarative5-doc-html for QtQML and QtQuick, but I don't know about QtMultimedia, Feedback, Sensors, Location, Organizer, etc
[21:16] <mhall119> kalikiana: I also need QML docs for U1DB, all I have is a package with C++ docs
[21:17] <mhall119> dbarth: From your team I need docs packages for the HTML5 theme, online accounts, alarms, content hub and "RuntimeAPI"
[21:17] <mhall119> and cordova too
[21:43] <ahoneybun> mhall119,
[21:44] <ahoneybun> my app numbers are going up like 20 more users in the last 2 weeks
[22:58] <Yami_> Which one is the best way to create an app for all the Ubuntu plataforms, App With simple UI?
[23:18] <Yami_> Hello everybody
[23:29] <mzanetti> nik90: hey, where do I report bugs for component from the ucs?
[23:32] <nik90> mzanetti: https://launchpad.net/component-store
[23:32] <mzanetti> thanks
[23:32] <nik90> np