| infinity | robert_ancell: Have you sorted a sane way forward for the indic font mess? If so, enlighten me and then, sure, we can remove the sync block if that's the right thing to do. | 01:23 |
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| darkxst | robert_ancell, can you copy https://launchpad.net/~darkxst/+archive/ubuntu/bluez5/+packages to the bluez transition ppa? | 01:36 |
| robert_ancell | infinity, I haven't been able to work out why the block is there. So my current assumption is "we should just match Debian". | 01:41 |
| robert_ancell | infinity, any more background info very welcome | 01:42 |
| infinity | # cjwatson, 2012-06-01 | 01:49 |
| infinity | # Temporary blacklist entries for quantal, requiring manual resolution due | 01:49 |
| infinity | # to conflicts with existing Ubuntu-versioned binaries. | 01:49 |
| infinity | robert_ancell: ^-- So, this is probably no longer true, or likely not, but I can't investigate right this instant either. | 01:49 |
| robert_ancell | infinity, that's fine. I just wanted to check that you guys are aware of the bug and/or find alternative means to find the right person to lift it | 01:50 |
| robert_ancell | darkxst, I'm trying to find the PPA link - do you have it? | 01:51 |
| darkxst | https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ubuntu/transitions | 01:51 |
| robert_ancell | darkxst, ta | 01:52 |
| robert_ancell | darkxst, do they need rebuilding? | 01:57 |
| darkxst | robert_ancell, no, binary copy should be fine | 01:57 |
| robert_ancell | darkxst, done | 01:58 |
| darkxst | thanks | 01:58 |
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| pitti | Good morning | 06:45 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 06:50 |
| seb128 | hey pitti | 06:50 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128 ! | 06:51 |
| pitti | I'm finally making some progress on finding out why people's fstab mounts get unmounted during boot | 06:51 |
| happyaron | pitti, seb128, morning, :) | 06:54 |
| seb128 | hey happyaron | 06:54 |
| pitti | hey happyaron, good day! | 06:54 |
| seb128 | pitti, oh, why is that? | 06:55 |
| pitti | seb128: do you get that as well? | 06:55 |
| pitti | bug 1419623 | 06:55 |
| seb128 | no | 06:55 |
| ubot5 | bug 1419623 in systemd (Ubuntu) "systemd unmounts partitions from fstab" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1419623 | 06:55 |
| seb128 | but I don't have partitions mounted at boot | 06:56 |
| seb128 | only a / | 06:56 |
| pitti | ah, I have /home and /srv in fstab | 06:56 |
| pitti | and /boot/efi/ | 06:56 |
| pitti | seb128: it could still be a red herring, but so far my theory is that cgmanager does some mounts/unmounts/remounts which cause that; it remounts MS_SLAVE, not MS_RSLAVE | 06:58 |
| pitti | (testing that now) | 06:58 |
| pitti | but that doesn't yet explain the full story | 07:00 |
| darkxst | pitti, still planing on switching to systemd init this cycle? | 07:01 |
| pitti | darkxst: I was quite hopeful, but NFS, maas, and juju drag on.. :/ | 07:02 |
| darkxst | why is nfs a problem? surely upstream have that also? | 07:04 |
| pitti | darkxst: upstream does have systemd units, yes; but our package only has an upstart job, so it doesn't work under systemd | 07:05 |
| pitti | darkxst: slangasek wanted to look into that this week though | 07:05 |
| darkxst | pitti, ok, I was thinking of switch Ubuntu GNOME, but then two critical bugs in a week ;( | 07:06 |
| pitti | darkxst: oh, what's the other one? | 07:06 |
| darkxst | pitti, ifup service hang, | 07:07 |
| darkxst | guess that is fixed now? | 07:08 |
| pitti | darkxst: ah, yes | 07:08 |
| pitti | darkxst: see bug 1417010, both sysvinit and systemd are in vivid | 07:09 |
| ubot5 | bug 1417010 in sysvinit (Debian) "Reloading services can result in a deadlock under systemd" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1417010 | 07:09 |
| darkxst | pitti, I have missed that janitor comments, but certainly saw the fix-commited's | 07:11 |
| seb128 | hum | 07:24 |
| seb128 | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2015-February/004636.html | 07:24 |
| seb128 | why is the sync bug #1420948 reaching the list? | 07:24 |
| ubot5 | bug 1420948 in appstream-glib (Ubuntu) "Sync appstream-glib 0.3.4-1 (universe) from Debian experimental (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1420948 | 07:24 |
| seb128 | "You received this bug notification because you are a member of GNOME3 | 07:24 |
| seb128 | Team, which is subscribed to appstream-glib in Ubuntu." | 07:24 |
| seb128 | darkxst: did you guys add the desktop list as contact info for your team or what? | 07:25 |
| darkxst | seb128, we use gnome3-team for that | 07:25 |
| seb128 | or is that because there is no list associated to the team? | 07:25 |
| seb128 | darkxst, https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+mailinglist | 07:26 |
| seb128 | hum, I don't understand | 07:26 |
| darkxst | seb128, I don't know why that would go to desktop list | 07:27 |
| seb128 | let me ask on #launchpad | 07:27 |
| darkxst | seb128, I also don't know why Noskcaj even filed that bug ;( | 07:28 |
| darkxst | it needs fixes for MIR, that should be forwarded to debian before sync | 07:28 |
| Noskcaj | darkxst, But it helps to get the newer version, doesn't it? | 07:39 |
| didrocks | morning | 07:39 |
| larsu | hi didrocks! | 07:40 |
| * didrocks spent 20 minutes in rebooting and being puzzled | 07:40 | |
| didrocks | hey larsu! | 07:40 |
| darkxst | Noskcaj, it doesnt help the MIR | 07:40 |
| darkxst | Noskcaj, fix those, forward to debian and propose an ubuntu package in the mean time? | 07:40 |
| Noskcaj | no, of course not. ximion hasn't been online in the last 2 days, but he's normally pretty active | 07:41 |
| darkxst | Noskcaj, I really don't see any reason they wouldnt take the changes | 07:41 |
| darkxst | debian is normally more pedantic about copyright than us | 07:42 |
| darkxst | useless build-deps and disabled but working tests seem to be a no brainer | 07:42 |
| darkxst | Noskcaj, that said, may need https://github.com/hughsie/appstream-glib/commit/8fea9d934fbfffbead04a1a6ec9e4344725af188 | 07:44 |
| darkxst | for tests | 07:44 |
| seb128 | darkxst, Noskcaj, can you put the gnome3 list as contact address on https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+contactaddress ? | 07:51 |
| seb128 | without that each member get emailed on any bug subscription | 07:52 |
| seb128 | which includes the desktop list through ubuntu-desktop being a member | 07:52 |
| darkxst | seb128, sure no problem | 07:52 |
| seb128 | thanks | 07:52 |
| darkxst | never even realised it worked (or didn't) like that | 07:52 |
| happyaron | didrocks: I'm preparing patch for seeding fcitx, but in doubt whether I should remove ibus at the same time | 07:53 |
| happyaron | some follow up patches are needed to switch the default | 07:53 |
| didrocks | happyaron: I didn't follow the discussions about what would be done in the end (switch or supporting both), I suggest you discuss it with attente_ and seb128? | 07:54 |
| happyaron | sure | 07:54 |
| didrocks | pitti: seems Lennart stopped just before my fsck patch if my email history is right :p | 08:03 |
| darkxst | Noskcaj, seems you have to subscribe yourself for new gnome3-team ML | 08:08 |
| Noskcaj | ok, will do | 08:08 |
| darkxst | thanks | 08:08 |
| pitti | didrocks: heh, yes; talked to him yesterday, and at the moment patches come in faster than he can keep up with; I'll ping him today to ask who would be appropriate to review/commit them (given that it already went through several rounds) | 08:19 |
| pitti | didrocks: now that I found out what breaks our mounts at boot (see #u-devel), I can think about other problems again :) | 08:20 |
| didrocks | pitti: sounds good, thanks! | 08:20 |
| didrocks | pitti: oh, nice! backloging :) | 08:20 |
| * didrocks answers to slangasek on CI Train and rewrite some wiki pages meanwhile | 08:20 | |
| didrocks | digging into my old code :p | 08:20 |
| willcooke | morning | 08:50 |
| willcooke | hrm - no clock | 08:50 |
| * willcooke restarts panel service | 08:51 | |
| willcooke | haz clock | 08:51 |
| didrocks | hey willcooke | 08:51 |
| willcooke | morning didrocks | 08:51 |
| willcooke | ohhh | 08:51 |
| seb128 | good morning willcooke | 08:56 |
| willcooke | hi seb128 | 08:56 |
| Laney | hey | 09:06 |
| Laney | had to restart network-manager to get my network to work just now | 09:07 |
| Laney | :( | 09:07 |
| Laney | could be ofono still I guess, didn't kill that | 09:07 |
| seb128 | hey Laney | 09:10 |
| seb128 | what was it doing? | 09:10 |
| seb128 | connected by no data going through? | 09:10 |
| Laney | 16 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 15000ms | 09:10 |
| Laney | I ctrl-ced it after exactly 15000ms, how cool is that | 09:11 |
| Noskcaj | darkxst, Excluding copyright fixes, lp:~noskcaj/ubuntu/vivid/appstream-glib/mir-fixes should be ready | 09:14 |
| Noskcaj | I'm signing off for the night, if it's all good, please propose the merge | 09:14 |
| darkxst | Noskcaj, needs copyrights also | 09:14 |
| Laney | you should get ximion to fix this | 09:15 |
| Laney | or upload your fixes then sync :) | 09:15 |
| Laney | also something in main could require it, I reverted back to appdata-tools for ... cheese I think | 09:16 |
| * xnox Yaaaawh | 09:17 | |
| seb128 | Laney, attente_, don't look at it, but https://appstore.bhdouglass.com/app/uu.mzanetti :-) | 09:20 |
| darkxst | Laney, been through that entire conversation with Jackson already | 09:21 |
| seb128 | the "don't look at it" is for productivity reasons of course ;-) | 09:21 |
| Laney | haha | 09:21 |
| Laney | I thought someone would do this when they started talking about how easy it would be when we were playing it | 09:22 |
| seb128 | :-) | 09:22 |
| seb128 | it's working quite nice, need a few tweaks to be great | 09:23 |
| Laney | someone just needs to do space team | 09:23 |
| seb128 | lol | 09:23 |
| seb128 | I've the feeling that one wouldn't be as trivial | 09:23 |
| * Laney updates to the latest image | 09:24 | |
| Laney | got to test ... something ... | 09:24 |
| seb128 | lol | 09:29 |
| mzanetti | :D | 09:32 |
| Laney | darkxst: do you have a branch for your totem pkg? | 09:39 |
| darkxst | Laney, no just whats on gnome3 ppa | 09:40 |
| darkxst | but you can upload there right? | 09:40 |
| Laney | sure | 09:41 |
| Laney | but good history is better if it exists | 09:41 |
| darkxst | given ubuntu-desktop is a member of that team | 09:41 |
| darkxst | Laney, they guy who was setiing up out packaging branches resigned ;( | 09:42 |
| Laney | bzr branch lp:~ubuntu-desktop/totem/ubuntu; hack hack hack; bzr commit; bzr push lp:~gnome3-team/totem/gnome3-staging | 09:43 |
| Laney | sorry you lost a volunteer :( | 09:43 |
| darkxst | Laney, or just stage it in ubuntu-desktop if you want | 09:44 |
| Laney | might do | 09:45 |
| Laney | any news on the grilo-plugins split? | 09:45 |
| Laney | + mir + whatever | 09:45 |
| larsu | Laney: morning. re gnome-screenshot... we can't use libcheese's cheese-flash, because that requires a parent window now (which gnome-screenshot doesn't have in non-interactive mode) and it doesn't support flashing individual windows | 09:46 |
| Laney | ah ok | 09:46 |
| larsu | however, the only noteworthy changes are getting rid of the set_visual() call | 09:46 |
| larsu | and fixing the opacity mess | 09:46 |
| darkxst | Laney, didrock was happy with the MIR pending split, seb128 may not be so happy ? | 09:47 |
| larsu | by having a priv opacity var and not reading back the opacity from the widget | 09:47 |
| larsu | kind of like I did | 09:47 |
| larsu | only thing that remains is that weird double flash, which I only see on compiz :/ | 09:47 |
| darkxst | but I am proposing first group in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grilo-plugins/+bug/1394731/comments/2 | 09:47 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1394731 in grilo-plugins (Ubuntu) "[MIR] grilo-plugins" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 09:47 |
| darkxst | and probably youtube | 09:47 |
| seb128 | darkxst, I'm fine with whatever others decide, I just would like to have a summary of what it's going to bring on the CD and the installed size impact | 09:48 |
| larsu | Laney: and I can't seem to get rid of it unless I don't destroy the flash window, which of course makes it leak | 09:48 |
| * larsu is unsure what to do | 09:48 | |
| darkxst | I think Noskcaj will do the actual packaging | 09:48 |
| Laney | darkxst: ok then | 09:48 |
| Laney | are the build deps all okay? | 09:48 |
| darkxst | Laney, everything is in main except dleyna-server which is a suggests in ubuntu packaging | 09:49 |
| Laney | larsu: I think we're probably sticking with 3.14 anyway (per the meeting), so not super important to fix right now | 09:49 |
| Laney | but will be needed next cycle | 09:50 |
| Laney | darkxst: cool | 09:50 |
| darkxst | Laney, 3.14 gtk? | 09:50 |
| Laney | ya | 09:50 |
| Laney | I'm going to mail the list in a minute | 09:50 |
| Laney | after making a totem package ;-) | 09:50 |
| larsu | Laney: ok, I'll file an upstream bug for the opacity part and start pestering Trevinho about compiz | 09:52 |
| darkxst | Laney, ok | 09:52 |
| darkxst | probably easier than fixing all the issues | 09:53 |
| Laney | at least we know about them *now* instead of in 2 months | 09:53 |
| darkxst | Laney, very much so, I Would be happy with gtk update landing early next cycle | 09:54 |
| darkxst | aka faster than this cycle | 09:54 |
| Laney | nod | 09:54 |
| Laney | how do you unstage something in bzr? | 09:56 |
| darkxst | Laney, idk, but suspect you can't once you have push to a public branch | 09:57 |
| darkxst | uncommit does work before that though | 09:57 |
| Laney | haven't push | 09:58 |
| Laney | I just want to undo a bzr add | 09:58 |
| darkxst | uncommit then | 09:58 |
| Laney | not committed | 09:58 |
| darkxst | Laney, I'm no bzr expert, do most things in git | 09:59 |
| Laney | bzr rm --keep looks likely | 09:59 |
| Laney | (Y) | 10:00 |
| happyaron | attente_, seb128: wonders how do we proceed with the input methods..? | 10:01 |
| seb128 | happyaron, wdym? | 10:01 |
| happyaron | seb128: I'm making a mp to seed fcitx, shall I remove ibus at the same time, or have both of them? | 10:01 |
| happyaron | ...and, what's your opinion about switch or not (and what time)? | 10:02 |
| seb128 | happyaron, don't see fcitx | 10:02 |
| seb128 | seed | 10:02 |
| seb128 | we don't want to install it by default | 10:02 |
| happyaron | why? | 10:02 |
| seb128 | because we need the support for fcitx to be merged in the indicator and unity-control-center first | 10:02 |
| seb128 | which didn't happen yet because we needed to build-depends on fcitx to build those | 10:03 |
| seb128 | which required fcitx MIR to be acked first | 10:03 |
| seb128 | so next step is to merge those in | 10:03 |
| happyaron | ic | 10:03 |
| seb128 | the new build-depends can be added and are going to led to promotion | 10:03 |
| seb128 | then we can give a round of testing and see how things work | 10:03 |
| seb128 | then decide to make fcitx default or not | 10:03 |
| seb128 | but we probably want it default only for chinese in a first time | 10:04 |
| happyaron | ok, great | 10:04 |
| happyaron | that would make both ibus and fcitx included in the image | 10:04 |
| happyaron | now the only input method in image is ibus-pinyin, which is for Chinese, to replace it we'll pull in fcitx | 10:05 |
| darkxst | night all | 10:06 |
| seb128 | night darkxst | 10:06 |
| seb128 | ok, I give up on debugging that issue for now | 10:08 |
| seb128 | Laney, so, the u-s-s notifications, I was wrong, that code uses the gappinfo api to get the name | 10:08 |
| Laney | I thought so | 10:09 |
| seb128 | Laney, that works and displays translated under unity7 and not unity8, on the same machine | 10:09 |
| Laney | that works with langpacks already | 10:09 |
| Laney | O_O | 10:09 |
| seb128 | I did go trough /proc/pid/environ | 10:09 |
| seb128 | no difference I can see | 10:09 |
| seb128 | I set the same LANG LANGUAGE LC_* | 10:09 |
| Laney | do we call setlocale(LC_ALL, "") in u-s-s? | 10:09 |
| Laney | surely so because other translations work | 10:09 |
| seb128 | no, but I tried to add that | 10:09 |
| seb128 | no difference | 10:09 |
| seb128 | and the code works under unity7 | 10:09 |
| Laney | ... | 10:10 |
| seb128 | why would it be required only under it? | 10:10 |
| seb128 | in src/i18n.cpp | 10:10 |
| seb128 | void initTr(const char *domain, const char *localeDir) | 10:10 |
| seb128 | { | 10:10 |
| seb128 | setlocale (LC_ALL, ""); | 10:10 |
| seb128 | bindtextdomain(domain, localeDir); | 10:10 |
| seb128 | textdomain(domain); | 10:10 |
| seb128 | I added the setlocale line | 10:10 |
| seb128 | but that doesn't fix it | 10:10 |
| seb128 | I'm puzzled | 10:10 |
| Laney | one second | 10:10 |
| seb128 | my current guess is that something in e.g qt5's x11 backend does system or locale init in a different way than the mir backend | 10:11 |
| seb128 | but that's random guess | 10:11 |
| Laney | I guess you can gdb and break inside glib to see if these functions are being called | 10:13 |
| seb128 | yeah, that's what I was planning to do next | 10:14 |
| seb128 | "these" being? | 10:14 |
| Laney | in GKeyFile I think (or GDesktopAppInfo) there's some fallback to use gettext | 10:14 |
| seb128 | I was going to try to stop on g_app_info_get_display_name() and see what is the locale/domain/etc | 10:15 |
| Laney | g_key_file_get_locale_string | 10:15 |
| seb128 | ok, called on my desktop | 10:17 |
| seb128 | let's see on unity8 | 10:17 |
| ochosi | Laney: i just read in the log that there seems to be a tendency against gtk3.16, i presume this is not definitive yet? also, a bit surprised, since the call for testing only went out yesterday | 10:24 |
| Laney | ochosi: I sent it last Friday no? | 10:25 |
| ochosi | oh | 10:25 |
| Laney | The call for testing was just that though | 10:25 |
| Laney | it showed more issues up ... | 10:25 |
| ochosi | tbh it only reached me indirectly, guess there are more MLs i have to subscribe to | 10:26 |
| Laney | so it did its job as far as I'm concerned | 10:26 |
| ochosi | ok | 10:26 |
| Laney | ah yes, this kind of stuff I usually send to ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com | 10:26 |
| ochosi | yeah, i was away over the weekend until yesterday, so i only heard about it yesterday | 10:26 |
| ochosi | that might explain the lag | 10:26 |
| ochosi | will the definitive decision be announced on that ML too? | 10:27 |
| Laney | yeah I'll follow up soon | 10:27 |
| ochosi | ok, ty! | 10:28 |
| * larsu hopes for the best | 10:29 | |
| ochosi | same here | 10:29 |
| willcooke | bah. Upgraded phone to latest devel - wont boot. | 10:37 |
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| Laney | woah | 11:06 |
| Laney | started sbuild, lightdm died | 11:07 |
| Laney | what is going on :( | 11:17 |
| Laney | "Waiting for network configuration..." | 11:17 |
| Laney | kernel | 11:26 |
| Laney | didrocks: was using -13 (moving from other channel) | 11:26 |
| Laney | is there a 14 now? | 11:26 |
| didrocks | Laney: ok, so -12 was working for me, I didn't try yet -14 (upgraded today, but didn't reboot) | 11:26 |
| Laney | 12 is okay, that's what I went back to | 11:26 |
| * Laney tries dist-upgrade | 11:27 | |
| Laney | didrocks: ah, -13.14 seems to work | 11:41 |
| didrocks | Laney: nice, I'll reboot later today and confirm | 11:44 |
| nessita | seb128, hello! me again. Would you know why meld (http://meldmerge.org/), since the upgrade to vivid, shows its background in black instead of white? see https://drive.google.com/a/canonical.com/file/d/0B-cmfDncRJmYRFZSdDJuMjRoZVE/view?usp=sharing | 11:45 |
| nessita | shall I file a bug? | 11:45 |
| Laney | nessita: yes, (meld + ubuntu-themes) | 11:54 |
| Laney | larsu usually fixes those, I guess he's subscribed to ubuntu-themes so will see it | 11:54 |
| nessita | on it | 11:55 |
| larsu | nessita: I might not be, please add me as subscriber | 11:56 |
| nessita | larsu, kk, thanks | 11:56 |
| Laney | nessita: I can't reproduce it myself though so please include steps | 11:56 |
| nessita | Laney, tricky, I just opened meld and the background was black. I have a vivid system upgraded from utopic. | 11:58 |
| Laney | me too | 11:58 |
| Laney | but it looks normal here | 11:58 |
| didrocks | willcooke: told you aquarius would be happy: https://plus.google.com/+StuartLangridge/posts/9fe7W2ijNhJ | 11:59 |
| larsu | Laney, nessita: overlay-scrollbars? | 12:00 |
| nessita | Laney, is ubuntu-themes a package I should have installed? | 12:00 |
| larsu | yes | 12:00 |
| Laney | light-themes | 12:00 |
| larsu | oops, I always confuse the package and launchpad name | 12:01 |
| nessita | light-themes: Installed: 14.04+15.04.20150128-0ubuntu2 | 12:01 |
| Laney | ya, I have o-s | 12:01 |
| nessita | ok, filling the bug | 12:01 |
| nessita | Laney, what is o-s? | 12:01 |
| Laney | overlay-scrollbar-gtk3 | 12:01 |
| Laney | i.e. if you do GTK_MODULES= meld ... is it right? | 12:01 |
| nessita | let me check | 12:03 |
| nessita | Laney, GTK_MODULES= meld still shows a black background | 12:03 |
| Laney | hmm | 12:04 |
| nessita | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meld/+bug/1421180 | 12:05 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1421180 in meld (Ubuntu) "Meld shows background in black instead of white" [Undecided,New] | 12:05 |
| nessita | Laney, shall I mark it as also affecting ubuntu-themes then? | 12:05 |
| Laney | yes please | 12:06 |
| nessita | done | 12:06 |
| * larsu is having trouble reproducing | 12:06 | |
| willcooke | didrocks, yay! | 12:06 |
| Laney | ah | 12:29 |
| Laney | we need to theme the "osd" class for totem's new controls | 12:29 |
| Laney | looks nice under adwaita, ambiance not so atm ... | 12:29 |
| larsu | we're not doing that yet? | 12:29 |
| * larsu thought he saw some .osd in there | 12:30 | |
| Laney | I don't think so, certainly doesn't look like it | 12:30 |
| Laney | (transparent) | 12:30 |
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| Laney | larsu: seb128: darkxst: others: I uploaded a totem 3.14 to ppa:ubuntu-desktop/ppa, please try when it's built | 12:39 |
| Laney | (should be able to see the osd issue then) | 12:39 |
| larsu | will do, thanks | 12:40 |
| nessita | larsu, so about the black meld issue, I tried purging it from the system and re-installing, and I still get the same issue. Is there other package that I should have installed that could help workarounding/fixing the issue? | 12:42 |
| larsu | nessita: I don't think so. Does it happen with other themes as well? | 12:43 |
| seb128 | Laney, k | 12:43 |
| nessita | larsu, let me check if I have other themes | 12:43 |
| nessita | larsu, tried radiance and high contrast, same issue in bpth | 12:44 |
| nessita | both* | 12:44 |
| nessita | also, I may add to the bug, every time I hit "alt + tab" there is a glitch in the meld window because the files being merged are somehow set (super quickly) to None and then to the original file again. May record a video to be more explicit | 12:45 |
| larsu | nessita: I've noticed this. probably a bug in meld | 12:47 |
| larsu | nessita: and you're still seeing this even with overlay-scrollbars off? | 12:47 |
| seb128 | nessita, I can't confirm that one either | 12:48 |
| seb128 | seems a duplicate of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meld/+bug/1404720 | 12:49 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1404720 in meld (Ubuntu) "comparison view has unreadably dark background" [Undecided,New] | 12:49 |
| Laney | yeah he doesn't have o-s in that screenshot | 12:50 |
| nessita | larsu, how can I set overlay-scrollbars off? | 12:51 |
| larsu | nessita: start meld with `GTK_MODULES= meld` | 12:51 |
| nessita | ah, yeah, I tried that, same black background | 12:52 |
| seb128 | nessita, what desktop env do you use? | 12:52 |
| nessita | seb128, unity | 12:52 |
| seb128 | nessita, dpkg -l | grep libgtk-3-0 | 12:53 |
| nessita | all default settings except the task switcher, which I use the one that does not group windows | 12:53 |
| nessita | ii libgtk-3-0:amd64 3.14.8-0ubuntu1 amd64 GTK+ graphical user interface library | 12:53 |
| seb128 | hum, k | 12:53 |
| nessita | happy to keep debugging, jut throw commands at me :-D | 12:53 |
| nessita | I use meld a lot, so this is important to me | 12:53 |
| nessita | (and the black background makes it very hard to read) | 12:54 |
| larsu | nessita: ok, let's get out the good stuff. Install libgtk-3-dev, restart meld, put the cursor over one of the panes and hit Ctrl+Shift+I | 12:54 |
| larsu | gtk inspector should pop up | 12:54 |
| nessita | larsu, on it | 12:55 |
| larsu | and on the left side, a "MeldSourceView" should be selected | 12:55 |
| seb128 | nessita, when did the issue start? | 12:56 |
| seb128 | nessita, can you try to apply https://git.gnome.org/browse/meld/commit/?h=meld-3-12&id=281583a05117b9d05acb010c98adfebfeb27f70c | 12:57 |
| nessita | seb128, I know I said I use meld a lot, and I do, but because some specific work assignment I did not work on code for several days, and I just restarted (fun) work today, so I noticed it today | 12:58 |
| seb128 | you use(d) KDE so could be ^ | 12:58 |
| nessita | seb128, but I haven't opened meld since I moved to vivid, so any time after that | 12:58 |
| seb128 | larsu, ^ | 12:58 |
| larsu | seb128: I'm using it constantly as well, never saw this issue | 12:59 |
| seb128 | larsu, KDE? | 12:59 |
| larsu | meld :) | 12:59 |
| nessita | larsu, so on the left side, in the Objects tab, I see GtkSettings, meld+meldapp+MeldApp, GtkAboutDialog, GtkApplicationWIndows, and 3 GtkFileChooserDialog | 12:59 |
| nessita | larsu, not sure where to fing MeldSourceView | 12:59 |
| tjaalton | ooh, that meld bug.. yes it's black for me too | 13:00 |
| larsu | nessita: you need to select the MeldSourceView, either by drilling down or by clicking on the selector button in the toolbar | 13:00 |
| larsu | nessita: and then clicking on the widget | 13:00 |
| seb128 | nessita, can you share your .config/gtk-3.0/Settings.ini if you have one? | 13:00 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, ^ | 13:00 |
| tjaalton | not found | 13:00 |
| nessita | nessita@miro:~$ cat .config/gtk-3.0/Settings.ini | 13:01 |
| nessita | cat: .config/gtk-3.0/Settings.ini: No such file or directory | 13:01 |
| nessita | seb128, I only have .config/gtk-3.0/bookmarks | 13:01 |
| nessita | larsu, entering a call, will be back with this as soon as I finish | 13:02 |
| seb128 | nessita, tjaalton, any chance you can try https://git.gnome.org/browse/meld/commit/?h=meld-3-12&id=281583a05117b9d05acb010c98adfebfeb27f70c | 13:02 |
| seb128 | you can probably edit the system files, python, it's easy | 13:02 |
| Laney | mitya57 spoilered my email! | 13:02 |
| Laney | while I was in the middle of writing it too | 13:03 |
| nessita | seb128, will try, sure | 13:03 |
| larsu | wubbly! | 13:03 |
| seb128 | whinoceros! | 13:04 |
| larsu | :) | 13:04 |
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| Laney | yeah I spoilered the release name too | 13:06 |
| Laney | annoying that emoji don't work in g-t for me >:( | 13:08 |
| tjaalton | seb128: yep, fixed | 13:08 |
| seb128 | :-) | 13:08 |
| seb128 | larsu, ^ | 13:08 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, thanks for testing, I'm going to update meld to the current stable version which includes that fix | 13:08 |
| seb128 | nessita, ^ | 13:08 |
| tjaalton | cool | 13:09 |
| nessita | larsu, so sorry if I'm not seeing something obvious, but I can not find MeldSourceView in | 13:09 |
| nessita | https://drive.google.com/a/canonical.com/file/d/0B-cmfDncRJmYMEVkMDBkVkdNblU/view?usp=sharing | 13:09 |
| nessita | seb128, ack, trying now (was tryingt to get larsu 's info) | 13:09 |
| larsu | nessita: not necessary anymore. The problem seems to be that meld changes css and doesn't repaint | 13:10 |
| nessita | seb128, YES | 13:12 |
| nessita | larsu, ack. So, what seb128 pointed out worked | 13:12 |
| tjaalton | now I still have this weird problem since utopic where some fonts don't display.. guest account is broken as well, so apparently some packages don't mix too well | 13:12 |
| nessita | seb128, larsu thanks a lot for your help! will comment on the bug | 13:15 |
| tjaalton | hm, my font issue seems to be mostly/only with firefox/tb | 13:16 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, when it happens here xchat-gnome is impacted as well | 13:17 |
| tjaalton | so gtk2 related? | 13:18 |
| tjaalton | hmm no | 13:18 |
| seb128 | I was about to say that, but xchat-gnome is gkt3 since vivid | 13:18 |
| tjaalton | right | 13:18 |
| seb128 | but I'm unsure I saw the issue recently, so maybe it was still old gtk by then | 13:18 |
| seb128 | but I doubt firefox uses gtk for font rendering | 13:18 |
| tjaalton | a vanilla installation works just fine | 13:19 |
| seb128 | you mean? there issue is happening all the time on your installation? | 13:20 |
| tjaalton | yes | 13:21 |
| tjaalton | one way to reproduce is to read phoronix (yuck) forums | 13:21 |
| tjaalton | the commented posts are blank | 13:21 |
| tjaalton | also the page numbers | 13:22 |
| ogra_ | seb128, tjaalton i see that too from time to time in FF | 13:37 |
| ogra_ | (missing fonts or CSS) | 13:37 |
| Laney | hmm | 13:39 |
| Laney | looks like gtalk xmpp is going away on monday | 13:39 |
| tjaalton | ogra_: oh, so I'm not seeing things | 13:39 |
| Laney | guess we need to do some updates | 13:39 |
| tjaalton | err, imagining things.. | 13:39 |
| larsu | Laney: does that mean it's not usable from telepathy anymore? | 13:40 |
| Laney | i guess | 13:40 |
| seb128 | xmpp used to be a thing | 13:48 |
| desrt | :( | 13:48 |
| seb128 | now no msn, no gtalk | 13:48 |
| seb128 | that's a shame :/ | 13:48 |
| desrt | seb128: it's okay. we'll always have telegram | 13:48 |
| desrt | seb128: can't really blame them, though, to be honest | 13:50 |
| desrt | look at us and freedesktop.org | 13:50 |
| desrt | we can either go through the specs process, or we can JFDI | 13:50 |
| desrt | interop definitely slows you down | 13:50 |
| seb128 | right :-/ | 13:51 |
| desrt | i think that's what makes telegram so good | 13:51 |
| desrt | they were super-pragmatic | 13:51 |
| desrt | they have the same 'nice to have' list as everybody | 13:52 |
| desrt | but at the top they put 'it has to work well, today' | 13:52 |
| didrocks | focusing on one experience and getting it supported is clearly the key | 13:52 |
| desrt | so the other 'nice things' have to be pushed aside | 13:52 |
| willcooke | Sweet5hark, hey! Getting "terminate called after throwing an instance of 'com::sun::star::uno::DeploymentException" when trying to run LO under Xmir - any suggestions? | 13:52 |
| willcooke | this is on U8 / Mir / Xmir btw | 13:53 |
| * desrt is vaguely entertained by the string 'sun::star' | 13:53 | |
| Sweet5hark | willcooke: yeah, something is wrong with extension deployment on 4.4.x. Do you have any python extensions somewhere? | 13:56 |
| willcooke | Sweet5hark, erm, I didnt change anything in the extensions, so probably not | 13:57 |
| willcooke | erm | 13:57 |
| willcooke | unless I pulled in some strange python version | 13:57 |
| === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g | ||
| Sweet5hark | willcooke: sounds very much related to bug 1419836, which I am currently looking into ... | 13:58 |
| ubot5 | bug 1419836 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "LibreOffice 4.4 (PPA): Extension can't be installed: Message: com.sun.star.uno.RuntimeException) "unknown error!"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1419836 | 13:58 |
| Sweet5hark | willcooke: this is with LibreOffice 4.4.0 on vivid? | 13:58 |
| willcooke | Sweet5hark, yeah | 13:59 |
| willcooke | Sweet5hark, sounds like very thing is in hand though - thanks :) | 13:59 |
| willcooke | oh, it';s 1:1 time anyway | 13:59 |
| willcooke | Sweet5hark, give me 2 mins to get tea? | 13:59 |
| Sweet5hark | willcooke: sure, sure | 14:00 |
| willcooke | Sweet5hark, thx | 14:00 |
| willcooke | hey larsu - I think pretty much everybody has requested a 360 from you | 14:21 |
| seb128 | willcooke, did they? | 14:22 |
| larsu | uh oh | 14:22 |
| * larsu should get busy?! | 14:22 | |
| seb128 | larsu, I'm changing my request to Laney instead, don't worry ;-) | 14:23 |
| desrt | ya. me too. | 14:23 |
| willcooke | too late desrt | 14:23 |
| desrt | oh wait. already picked laney :/ | 14:23 |
| larsu | ts, would have loved to review you guys | 14:23 |
| seb128 | larsu, sorry, next time :-) | 14:24 |
| larsu | seb128: I'll put you down anyway :P | 14:24 |
| seb128 | larsu, yeah, please do, I'm happy to review you, and I didn't have so many people asking me | 14:24 |
| larsu | :) | 14:25 |
| seb128 | willcooke, Sweet5hark, libreoffice doesn't start anymore for me either today on vivid | 14:31 |
| willcooke | seb128, all under control :) | 14:32 |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: as a hotfix: do a "mv ~/.config/libreoffice ~/.config/libreoffice_". | 14:34 |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: Havent had that "cant start at all" here yet, so would be interested if the above does help as a workaround ... | 14:35 |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: (and yes, I am working on figuring out what is going wrong there properly) | 14:35 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark, willcooke, ok, mine works again without that | 14:35 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark, willcooke, update-manager updated only part of the packages, a set was blocked on libmwaw-0.3-3 to be installed | 14:36 |
| seb128 | seems like the depends don't enforce the update to not be partial | 14:36 |
| seb128 | but it doesn't handle the out of sync between binaries | 14:36 |
| seb128 | works again after upgrading the remaining ones | 14:36 |
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| * willcooke backlogging | 14:50 | |
| * willcooke tries an update again | 14:51 | |
| willcooke | Sweet5hark, oh, I tried deleting all of ~/.config/libreoffice before, didnt help me - but might be unrelated | 14:51 |
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | ||
| willcooke | Sweet5hark, I see another LO update when dist-upgrading | 15:02 |
| jcastro | didrocks, http://askubuntu.com/a/584704/235 | 15:03 |
| jcastro | how would an upgrade look like? | 15:03 |
| Saviq | willcooke, FYI: window geometry memory just landed in archive | 15:11 |
| willcooke | Saviq, woo! Thanks! | 15:12 |
| willcooke | This is awesome news. Now when you switch between windowed and staged mode the windows will remember where they were. | 15:12 |
| willcooke | seb128, ^^ | 15:12 |
| willcooke | Saviq, presumably that's held in memory rather than, say a config file? | 15:13 |
| Saviq | willcooke, sql db | 15:13 |
| willcooke | ooooh | 15:13 |
| willcooke | nice | 15:13 |
| willcooke | sqlite? | 15:13 |
| Saviq | yup | 15:13 |
| willcooke | cool | 15:13 |
| willcooke | is that part of the u1db stuff? | 15:14 |
| Saviq | willcooke, no actually, you need a postgres install ;P | 15:14 |
| willcooke | hah | 15:14 |
| Saviq | willcooke, not right now | 15:14 |
| * willcooke has evil thoughts about syncing window positions across devices | 15:14 | |
| Saviq | willcooke, it's not the target architecture for this most probably | 15:14 |
| Saviq | willcooke, yeah, no | 15:14 |
| seb128 | Saviq, great, saw the changelog ... what's the id? like does it work between mode, or also between sessions? | 15:14 |
| willcooke | :D | 15:14 |
| Saviq | seb128, both | 15:15 |
| seb128 | excellent! | 15:15 |
| willcooke | would this work for qt and gtk native apps as well? | 15:15 |
| seb128 | Saviq, how does it reconize the surface? | 15:15 |
| willcooke | Laney, noticed any oddities with the UK archive servers today? | 15:16 |
| willcooke | my updates keep crapping out | 15:16 |
| Saviq | seb128, by app id right now, IIUC | 15:18 |
| Saviq | mzanetti has details | 15:18 |
| seb128 | k | 15:18 |
| seb128 | which is fine as long as apps have one surface I guess :-) | 15:18 |
| * mzanetti reads scrollback | 15:19 | |
| mzanetti | yes, appId so far. | 15:20 |
| mzanetti | we need to change that to windowId once we have such a thing | 15:20 |
| mzanetti | but it'll do for MWC | 15:20 |
| seb128 | right | 15:22 |
| willcooke | Sweet5hark, re-upgraded and everything is back to normal | 15:27 |
| willcooke | seb128, mlankhorst - Typing in to a LO doc under Xmir \o/ | 15:30 |
| mlankhorst | goodie | 15:30 |
| seb128 | great | 15:31 |
| willcooke | AND pointing at things :D | 15:31 |
| willcooke | and clicking | 15:31 |
| mlankhorst | haha good | 15:31 |
| willcooke | when this broken track pad allows me | 15:31 |
| willcooke | power menu still crashes things | 15:31 |
| willcooke | bah | 15:31 |
| willcooke | My life is not perfect. | 15:31 |
| willcooke | ;) | 15:32 |
| Laney | willcooke: with what message? | 15:32 |
| willcooke | erm | 15:33 |
| willcooke | I turned it off | 15:33 |
| willcooke | I'll try again | 15:33 |
| Laney | if it's something aboutu a mismatch on Translations-en then yes | 15:34 |
| willcooke | Laney, the logs would be in cachce upstart right? | 15:34 |
| Laney | I don't think that update-manager logs | 15:35 |
| willcooke | ohh | 15:35 |
| willcooke | sorry - I'm talking cross purposes | 15:36 |
| willcooke | erm, so the upgrade works now | 15:36 |
| willcooke | meh | 15:36 |
| Laney | ya, that happens | 15:36 |
| Laney | you hit some inconsistency and then it gets fixed | 15:36 |
| didrocks | jcastro: we let the upstream upgrade mechanism instead of messing with it | 15:52 |
| jcastro | ack | 15:52 |
| larsu | Trevinho: why did you change blacklisting in that indicator-appmenu branch as well? | 16:32 |
| larsu | and again, I'm not really happy with exporting all menus at all times | 16:32 |
| larsu | listening I mean | 16:32 |
| larsu | it seems to work though | 16:33 |
| Trevinho | larsu: well, it was just wrong to look only to these hardcoded paths | 16:33 |
| Trevinho | larsu: as for exporting all the menus, I agree, but there's just not another way to do this | 16:33 |
| Trevinho | without rewriting everything | 16:33 |
| * larsu hates unrelated changes in the same branch | 16:33 | |
| Trevinho | :P | 16:33 |
| larsu | Trevinho: yes there is. Get rid of this LIM madness | 16:33 |
| larsu | (sorry) | 16:33 |
| Trevinho | larsu: that's not the designed stuff | 16:34 |
| Trevinho | solution | 16:34 |
| larsu | Trevinho: I know :) Anyhow, sorry for taking so long to take your branch for a spin. It seems good, approving | 16:36 |
| larsu | Trevinho: I hope our deal's still on? :P | 16:36 |
| Trevinho | larsu: anyway, considering that the indicator was generating all the menu data always and in any case, this won't change much things... a part from the fact that there will be more exported labels on dbus... but they will be updated less frrequently | 16:36 |
| larsu | Trevinho: did the indicator cache data for all menus? | 16:37 |
| Trevinho | larsu: yes, my hands are just bloody as they're inside the compiz core... | 16:37 |
| larsu | hahaha | 16:37 |
| Trevinho | larsu: it was and it will | 16:37 |
| larsu | ok | 16:37 |
| Trevinho | it was just loading them as soon as they were needed, so... once you focused a window. compared to now, where we do that always | 16:38 |
| larsu | so the change is really just making the indicator exporting all the things to unity | 16:38 |
| Trevinho | larsu: yes, and adding the relative parent xid | 16:38 |
| Trevinho | so that we can then filter them out | 16:38 |
| Trevinho | larsu: unity side of things was https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/unity/lim-everywhere | 16:39 |
| Trevinho | err is at | 16:39 |
| seb128 | Laney, ok, getting closer from the settings/translations/unity8 issue | 17:46 |
| Laney | oh really! | 17:47 |
| Laney | uitk/uss? | 17:47 |
| seb128 | Laney, I still don't know, but g_dgettext() fails to return a translation under unity8 | 17:48 |
| seb128 | dgettext() works | 17:48 |
| seb128 | I'm reading glib source ;-) | 17:48 |
| seb128 | " For this | 17:48 |
| seb128 | * feature to work, the call to textdomain() and setlocale() should | 17:48 |
| seb128 | * precede any g_dgettext() invocations. For GTK+, it means calling | 17:48 |
| seb128 | * textdomain() before gtk_init or its variants." | 17:48 |
| seb128 | i18n.cpp does call textdomain(domain); though | 17:49 |
| seb128 | and I've added a setlocale() call to it as well | 17:49 |
| seb128 | doesn't make sense :-/ | 17:57 |
| Laney | does g_dgettext do anything? | 17:58 |
| seb128 | I wonder if qt's x11 backend does some locales init that the mir backend doesn't | 17:58 |
| seb128 | anything? | 17:58 |
| seb128 | well, it returns me the english string instead of the french one under unity8 | 17:58 |
| Laney | other than just call dgettext ... | 17:58 |
| seb128 | Laney, it calls that http://paste.ubuntu.com/10191432/ | 17:59 |
| seb128 | and use dgettext() if that is true | 17:59 |
| seb128 | so that must be false | 17:59 |
| seb128 | our domain is not the default one but it has translations | 18:00 |
| seb128 | k, so something under unity8 must call that function before us and have it return false | 18:04 |
| seb128 | right? | 18:04 |
| Laney | I guess | 18:05 |
| Laney | can you break there? | 18:05 |
| seb128 | no | 18:05 |
| Laney | get a bt | 18:05 |
| seb128 | but I can rebuid glib and do that | 18:05 |
| seb128 | I don't think you can "b" on a static symbol | 18:05 |
| Laney | g_gettext? | 18:05 |
| seb128 | but I can remove the static and rebuild and do it | 18:05 |
| Laney | d | 18:05 |
| seb128 | then step from it? | 18:05 |
| Laney | should be enough to just see where this is called | 18:06 |
| seb128 | I guess yeah | 18:06 |
| Laney | it's going to call the other one | 18:06 |
| Laney | and you know it returns false anyway | 18:06 |
| seb128 | shrug, hate that | 18:07 |
| seb128 | using gdb on the phone to start the app doesn't work | 18:07 |
| seb128 | it hits sigbus errors for some reasons | 18:07 |
| Laney | :/ | 18:13 |
| * willcooke -> EOD | 18:14 | |
| * willcooke -> EOD | 18:14 | |
| willcooke | hrm | 18:14 |
| seb128 | Oh yeah | 18:17 |
| seb128 | got ja | 18:17 |
| Laney | O_O | 18:18 |
| seb128 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/10191675/ | 18:18 |
| seb128 | hum, guess not | 18:19 |
| seb128 | grrr | 18:19 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD | ||
| Laney | i'm off too | 18:26 |
| Laney | swapping tomorrow but may be on a bit in the morning | 18:26 |
| Laney | can help look at this bug on monday if you want | 18:27 |
| seb128 | Laney, I'm going to have it resolved by then I hope ;-) | 18:35 |
| seb128 | Laney, enjoy the swap day! | 18:35 |
| === rickspencer3_ is now known as rickspencer3 | ||
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, what device are you running cut the rope on? | 20:56 |
| kenvandine | robert_ancell, krillin | 20:57 |
| kenvandine | and mako too | 20:57 |
| kenvandine | but only briefly on the mako | 20:57 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, it's really low frame rate for me on mako | 20:58 |
| robert_ancell | just wondering if that's the same on krillin / expected | 20:59 |
| kenvandine | it's perfectly smooth on my krillin | 21:00 |
| kenvandine | i played 2 levels on the mako | 21:00 |
| kenvandine | and it was smooth | 21:00 |
| robert_ancell | weird | 21:00 |
| kenvandine | i've been playing the free version for a while on krillin | 21:01 |
| kenvandine | it's always been slick and smooth on that | 21:01 |
| kenvandine | robert_ancell, Elleo said it was choppy on his mako too | 21:02 |
| kenvandine | bregma, you have the yoga 2 pro right? | 21:09 |
| bregma | THE Yoga 2 Pro, yeah | 21:09 |
| kenvandine | and love it? | 21:09 |
| bregma | hate the keyboard, love the screen | 21:09 |
| kenvandine | i'm thinking about buying one | 21:09 |
| bregma | the case also feels very nice | 21:10 |
| bregma | all sexy-like | 21:10 |
| kenvandine | hard to find something with a display like that :) | 21:10 |
| kenvandine | touch screen works fine? | 21:10 |
| bregma | the touch screen works great | 21:11 |
| kenvandine | i'm thinking it'll be a good candidate to play with convergence features :) | 21:11 |
| bregma | it also has a gyro, accel, and magnetometer, if I could figure out how to use them | 21:11 |
| kenvandine | does the accel work in ubuntu too? | 21:13 |
| kenvandine | i assume we don't actually handle the rotation | 21:13 |
| kenvandine | yet | 21:13 |
| bregma | sensor support in general in Linux is in its early days | 21:13 |
| bregma | these sensors are IIO, I have others that are I2C, and there's no goof userspace support for any of these | 21:14 |
| bregma | it's like PC ausio was in the 1990s | 21:14 |
| bregma | *audio | 21:14 |
| kenvandine | :) | 21:14 |
| * kenvandine hasn't heard of IIO :) | 21:14 | |
| bregma | or even video -- Hercules or Trident? | 21:14 |
| bregma | I just want to be able to turn a tablet upside down and shake it to clear the screen, why does it have to be so hard? | 21:16 |
| kenvandine | haha | 21:16 |
| bregma | the feature for the Yoga 2 Pro I need to to detect when the keyboard is folded underneath (tablet mode) and disable the keyboard | 21:16 |
| kenvandine | and enable the osk | 21:17 |
| kenvandine | i'm kind of interested in the yoga 3 11" | 21:17 |
| bregma | there's a hack out there to do that using the position sensor, I tested it but not installed it | 21:17 |
| kenvandine | fanless :) | 21:17 |
| kenvandine | but not the qhd display | 21:17 |
| kenvandine | and not sure what to think of the processor | 21:18 |
| bregma | there is a fan, but it rarely comes on and it's whisper quiet | 21:18 |
| kenvandine | the yoga 3 is fanless | 21:18 |
| kenvandine | has the intel M processor | 21:18 |
| kenvandine | 800Mhz | 21:18 |
| kenvandine | up to 1.7G i think | 21:18 |
| bregma | it's good enough for what I do (building software, etc) | 21:18 |
| kenvandine | i think the yoga 2 pro is a safer bet | 21:19 |
| kenvandine | faster processor, and qhd screen :) | 21:19 |
| robert_ancell | bregma, does the yoga have a sensor for that? I have a new Toshiba that does the screen flip but it doesn't seem to have a sensor | 21:19 |
| bregma | robert_ancell, yes, it has a "position sensor" to indicate various keyboard positions (it does effectively 360 rotation of the keyboard) | 21:20 |
| robert_ancell | bregma, how do you access that? | 21:20 |
| bregma | through the /sys/bus/IIO interface | 21:21 |
| bregma | it's pretty wretched | 21:21 |
| robert_ancell | any tools to make that more accessible? | 21:21 |
| bregma | there was a kernel patch floating around to redirect IIO through evdev, but it seems to be stillborn | 21:22 |
| robert_ancell | hmm, I have a bunch of devices in there. I guess one of them might be related to screen position | 21:22 |
| bregma | poke around, they give up their names and a description of their data if you squeeze hard enough | 21:24 |
| robert_ancell | I've got the names but not sure what is what | 21:24 |
| robert_ancell | accel_3d, gyro_3d, magn_3d, incli_3d, dev_rotation, als | 21:25 |
| bregma | incli_3d is a 3D inclinometer | 21:26 |
| bregma | als is ambient lighting | 21:26 |
| bregma | https://github.com/pfps/yoga-laptop.git has some tools you might be able to take advantage of | 21:26 |
| * robert_ancell just tried to bring up the ubuntu switcher on his Android phone | 21:27 | |
| bregma | is that the new Unity 8 switcher? | 21:27 |
| robert_ancell | yeah, the Ubuntu phone one | 21:27 |
| bregma | there's a bug asking for it to be ported to Android | 21:27 |
| bregma | I think it was triages as 'wishlist' | 21:28 |
| robert_ancell | haha | 21:28 |
| darkxst | Laney http://pastebin.com/scrYiXvE | 21:29 |
| ochosi | larsu: i presume you know about this already, but progressbars are quite tiny in some apps with gtk3.14 (e.g. software center or update-manager) | 21:34 |
| larsu | ochosi: ah right, I remember. Thanks | 21:34 |
| ochosi | i guess that's a toolkit/app issue, not theming related | 21:34 |
| larsu | not sure - it worked before, no? | 21:36 |
| ochosi | before what? | 21:37 |
| larsu | 3.14 | 21:38 |
| ochosi | larsu: yeah, i'm pretty sure they weren't *that* tiny | 21:44 |
| Laney | darkxst: ok, I have a ppa1 anyway but I think I forgot to upload it | 22:14 |
| darkxst | Laney, ok, gave it a quick test under GNOME seems fine | 22:22 |
| Laney | neat | 22:22 |
| Laney | just need the split then, hopefully before FF | 22:23 |
| darkxst | we are still trying to confirm package naming with the DM | 22:23 |
| Laney | ack | 22:23 |
| Laney | berto's usually quite responsive, sure you'll be fine | 22:24 |
| darkxst | ok | 22:34 |
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