[00:36] <charlesay> hi, gdm fails to load during boot leaving me without a desktop, how can this possibly be fixed?
[01:08] <darkxst> charlesay, would need to see logs
[01:09] <darkxst> how far do you get? do you see the login screen?
[01:38] <charlesay> darkxst: no -  it's showing "Starting Gnome Display Manager [fail]", then starts or stops some other services and the last message in the log is about samba services (this without further errors) and then hangs there
[01:39] <darkxst> charlesay, can you paste /var/log/:0-greeter.log
[01:40] <darkxst> ^ /var/log/gdm/
[01:40] <darkxst> also :0.log as well
[01:46] <charlesay> how exactly would i do this on my tty? i am not familiar with the format those logs are in
[01:46] <darkxst> they are just text files. you could use pastebinit
[01:53] <darkxst> Noskcaj, if you want to merge gnome-user-share it can probably go into ppa:ubuntu-desktop/transitions now
[01:54] <charlesay> ok, here goes: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10181258/
[01:56] <darkxst> X seems happy enough, the other log?
[01:57] <charlesay> ok, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10181303/
[01:58] <darkxst> that seems much less happy
[01:59] <darkxst> but seems gnome-shell did start and no hints to what is failing
[02:00] <darkxst> charlesay, enable Debug in /etc/gdm/custom.conf
[02:00] <darkxst> reboot and try paste that greeter log again
[02:02] <charlesay> is it enough to just uncomment the [debug] enable=true line?
[02:02] <darkxst> yes
[02:04] <charlesay> ok, i'll report back in a minute
[02:11] <charlesay> darkxst: here is the new log of :0-greeter.log, but to me it does not look more verbose: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1081454
[02:12] <darkxst> that link doesnt work
[02:14] <charlesay> sorry, forgot a digit : http://paste.ubuntu.com/10181454
[02:14] <darkxst> odd
[02:14] <darkxst> There should be a heap of DEBUG lines
[02:15] <charlesay> could i try to reinstall gdm?
[02:16] <darkxst> that won't help
[02:17] <darkxst> seems gnome-session is somewhat absent
[02:18] <darkxst> you do have that installed right?
[02:20] <charlesay> yes, 3.9.90
[02:21] <darkxst> charlesay, anything gnome related in /var/crash/
[02:23] <charlesay> not obviously so. there is an empty file called ' .lock'
[02:23] <darkxst> guess you need to find out why gnome-session is not launching then
[02:24] <charlesay> the other new file there is called _usr_lib_tracker_tracker-miner-fs.1000.crash
[02:25] <darkxst> that won't affect much
[02:27] <darkxst> (tracker dosen't even run until you login, and even when it crashes things should still boot fine)
[02:29] <charlesay> in the boot log there is one more fail-message, about the SMB/CIFS Active Directory Server, but that really should be unrelated.
[02:31] <darkxst> since your intel I suppose you could try boot with nomodeset
[02:32] <darkxst> or try lightdm and see if you can login to GNOME session with
[02:32] <charlesay> i was just going to ask you whether trying lightdm would be an idea
[02:32] <darkxst> wouldnt hurt
[02:33] <darkxst> lightdm is a little more resilient with gpu issues, but the X logs looked fine
[02:33] <charlesay> do I just apt-get install it, and how do I tell the system to use it?
[02:33] <darkxst> install it and it popup a configuration screen
[02:34] <darkxst> also accessible via dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[02:35] <charlesay> you mean the config screen will show up when i reboot? or i'd just run the reconfigure command?
[02:36] <darkxst> config screen will show up when you install lightdm
[02:36] <darkxst> you will need to run the reconfigure command to switch back gdm though
[02:37] <charlesay> ah, it's there now
[02:40] <charlesay> it's finished installing lightdm, so I reboot into it?
[02:42] <darkxst> yes
[02:44] <charlesay> okay, let's see what happens...
[02:52] <charlesay> darkxst: hm, in lightdm i get to the login screen, but when I enter my password the session doesn't start and the login screen returns/stays there without comment, it complains if the password is wrong
[02:56] <darkxst> paste ~/.cache/upstart/gnome-session-GNOME.log
[02:59] <charlesay> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10181924/
[02:59] <darkxst> gnome-shell:2434): Gjs-WARNING **: JS ERROR: TypeError: Shell.StageInputMode is undefined
[02:59] <darkxst> onFocusChange@/home/daro/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions/maximus-two@wilfinitlike.gmail.com/app_menu.js:74
[02:59] <darkxst> WindowManager<.actionMoveWorkspace@/usr/share/gnome-shell/js/ui/windowManager.js:1137
[02:59] <darkxst> wrapper@resource:///org/gnome/gjs/modules/lang.js:169
[02:59] <darkxst> WindowManager<._showWorkspaceSwitcher@/usr/share/gnome-shell/js/ui/windowManager.js:1115
[02:59] <darkxst> wrapper@resource:///org/gnome/gjs/modules/lang.js:169
[03:00] <darkxst> try disable maximus
[03:00] <darkxst> though something seems to be killing your X server
[03:01] <darkxst> gtg though now
[03:02] <charlesay> ok thank you for your help
[03:02] <charlesay> 1!
[03:03] <darkxst> gsettings set org.gnome.shell extensions-enabled '[]'
[03:12] <charlesay> That puts out "No such key 'extensions-enabled' "
[03:48] <charlesay> Gnome fails to load and I have session log with a huge amount of window manager warnings and gnome shell errors. how do I find the root cause for this?
[03:49] <charlesay> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10182314/
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[18:27] <b-yeezi> Hi all. Is there a good resource that explains how to change the GDM theme?
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[19:39] <UnDim> Hello everyone
[19:42] <Noskcaj> hi UnDim
[19:49] <Noskcaj> UnDim, You said that you're developer in your email, what programming languages do you know, and how would you like to help?
[19:54] <UnDim> last couple of years it's been c# and java.  I have played around with vala a little in the last couple of months
[20:03] <Noskcaj> UnDim, My suggest is, find a bug that affects you (bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu and bugzilla.gnome.org) and try and fix it. git.gnome.org will says what language a program is written in
[20:05] <UnDim> Noskcaj, Sounds good.  Quick question.  Is there a document that shows the correct way to submit a fix?  I have already install Mutt so I can send plan text emails.
[20:06] <Noskcaj> UnDim, Make a diff, attach it to the bug report(s), then i'll work you through packaging
[20:07] <UnDim> Also, I am open to doing anything to help you out until I get up to speed on the coding.
[20:07] <UnDim> Thanks
[20:29] <Noskcaj> You could maybe make some headerbar/titlebar patches. While gnome is switching to headerbars, all other DEs only look good with traditional menubars. Most gnome devs haven't bothered making the latter usecase work
[20:29] <Noskcaj> Meaning we have to manually patch them
[20:37] <UnDim> Ok.  Is there a bug for it?
[20:41] <Noskcaj> UnDim, It's probably not that great to start with actually, since every package is different. e.g. bug v
[20:42] <Noskcaj> bug 1385560
[20:42] <ubot5> bug 1385560 in Gnome System Monitor "gnome-system-monitor 3.14.1-1 uses headerbar on all DEs" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1385560
[20:42] <Noskcaj> I'll try and find some unfixed ones now
[20:47] <Noskcaj> Go back to my original suggestion, headerbar stuff isn't nice to start with
[20:48] <UnDim> no worries.
[20:52] <Noskcaj> rhythmbox ans smuxi are both C#, so maybe bugs in them are a good place to start
[20:52] <Noskcaj> *and
[20:57] <Noskcaj> darkxst, Could you point UnDim in the direction of something he can help with?
[20:59] <darkxst> UnDim, both baobab and gnome-contacts need headerbar patches
[20:59] <darkxst> they are both written in vala, which is somewhat similar to c# I believe
[21:01] <UnDim> darkxst, vala is very similar.
[21:01] <UnDim> i will look into those
[21:02] <Noskcaj> :)
[21:02] <Noskcaj> darkxst, Also, appstream-glib branch is done. Still no response from grilo-plugins maintainer though
[21:41] <darkxst> Noskcaj, did you re-enable the tests?
[21:42] <darkxst> nm, looknig at it now
[21:43] <darkxst> Noskcaj, theres quilt noise in the debdiff
[21:46] <darkxst> also the patch is missing headers
[21:47] <darkxst> try .patch instead of .diff (on github)
[22:15] <darkxst> Noskcaj, also uess you saw Laney's email about not landing gtk 3.15, too many issues popped up