[14:59] <balloons> morning pmatulis
[16:46] <GunnarHj> dsmythies: It looks like I successfully fetched revision 176.
[16:48] <dsmythies> GunnarHj: O.K. thanks for the verification.
[16:48] <GunnarHj> dsmythies: So, if I understand it correctly, the problem is that the revision is too large to be browsed on the Bazaar web interface?
[16:50] <dsmythies> Yes, that was also the reason the e-mail team notification failed. So I spent last evening all worried, but in the end it was O.K.
[16:50] <GunnarHj> Ok, good to hear that.
[16:52] <dsmythies> Other readers: We are talking about a big revision to help.ubuntu.com that was pushed yesterday.
[17:13] <dsmythies> GunnarHj: I have another recent branch of help.ubuntu.com. I'll do a sync pull on it and see if I also get your 300 second timeout. (it'll be later today though).
[17:15] <GunnarHj> dsmythies: That would be useful. In my case, I saw no other sign of failure, and it indeed completed.
[17:18] <dsmythies> GunnarHj: There is an issue with linkback trail gray on serverguide 14.04. Master code is O.K. but help not right. I'll look into it later today. I check and check and check and still miss stuff, then see it right away when it has gone live.
[17:20] <GunnarHj> dsmythies: Please note that you are not the only one who make such mistakes. ;)
[17:28] <pmatulis> dsmythies: i did an update to 12.04 and 14.04 server guides.  any way to include those in the next help updates?
[18:04] <pmatulis> dsmythies: what are your ideas on posting a bug affecting the sguide until it's fixed, then guide will be updated?
[18:12] <pmatulis> (adding the bug within the guide i mean)
[19:12] <dsmythies> pmatulis: from the meeting we have an action item to do point releases for 12.04 and 14.04 serverguides. Since what I did was cosmetic only, I didn't worry a out the translations part of it. My thinking was that we could now proceed with the proper point releases, including the translations update delay time. However, I think there is still some stuff you had wanted to backport to 12.04.
[19:13] <pmatulis> dsmythies: i have quite a bit of stuff committed right now
[19:13] <dsmythies> pmatulis: I don't know what you mean re: some bug report for serverguide.
[19:13] <pmatulis> dsmythies: ah, i mean actually refer to a bug in the guide
[19:13] <pmatulis> dsmythies: a big section of apparmor is messed up due to a bug
[19:14] <pmatulis> (an actual apparmor bug)
[19:14] <pmatulis> that makes the instructions not work as advertised
[19:15] <dsmythies> Oh yes, I remember now, the bug report came a few days or weeks ago. While in general I do not like to refer to bug reports inthe serverguide itself, it has been done before. It might make sense in this case. It just means sometrhing else to think about in future.
[19:19] <pmatulis> dsmythies: alright.  i concur that doing so is fine as long as we follow up once the bug is fixed.  this is the hardest part.  i'm not sure how to track that other than listing the bug on the focus page
[19:20] <dsmythies> pmatulis: did that bug reporting edit ever get backported to 12.04?
[19:21] <dsmythies> pmatulis: Tracking on the focus page is a good way to keep a reminder.
[19:21] <pmatulis> dsmythies: not sure what you mean by backporting to 12.04
[19:22] <pmatulis> dsmythies: so far there is no bug listed in any version of the guide
[19:22] <pmatulis> dsmythies: that i know of anyway
[19:22] <pmatulis> i think we may be conflating things
[19:22] <pmatulis> dsmythies: ah i know what you're saying now
[19:23] <pmatulis> dsmythies: damn, i haven't done it yet
[19:23] <dsmythies> I think the original MP has been deleted, at least I cannot find it anymore.
[19:24] <pmatulis> dsmythies: yes i removed it
[19:24] <pmatulis> dsmythies: what is our timeframe for updating both guides?
[19:25] <dsmythies> For the "real" point release?
[19:25] <pmatulis> yeah
[19:29] <dsmythies> As soon as we decide we are ready with the master branchs, then we need to to the pot and po stuff (or just POT) and then let translatros have time, say at least a week probably two. I was hoping something like just a few days from now for the master branchs being ready. I am out of town Monday and Tuesday, so how about thursday for POT thing?
[19:30] <pmatulis> dsmythies: i can get the one remaining 12.04 MP in over the next couple of days for sure.  thursday it is then
[19:31] <dsmythies> pmatulis: I'll do that approved MP for 14.04 that also needs additional edits when merged.
[19:34] <pmatulis> dsmythies: roger, the one from kokandy
[19:38] <dsmythies> pmatulis: yes. Will you take care of that bug report we talked about earlier, the apparmor mess one?
[19:52] <pmatulis> dsmythies: yes, i'll ask the contributor to add an admonition for the apparmor bug.  i'll consider putting a note on the focus page to standardize such an admonition