[01:16] <wxl> so i can't access my device with adb. i've got the sdk installed, then i plug in the usb and no dice. device not found.
[01:20] <wxl> nevermind :)
[01:31] <genii> wxl: USB debugging turned on?
[04:04] <Drew_Neilson> anyone in here?  I have a question
[04:38] <nhaines> !question
[04:39] <nhaines> Although it's busiest during European business hours.
[06:15] <clitjes> morning guys, haven't seen the porting guide yet could you maybe link me a draft? I'm currently trying to do this with the old guide and some common sense
[06:34] <jrg> so the 2nd batch sold out already? heh
[06:34] <jrg> just curious but does the uk model support US freqs and just isn't being sold here? or doesn't support a US network at all ?
[06:34] <svij> jrg: it only supports 2G in the US
[06:35] <jrg> damn :(
[06:35] <jrg> ah well. guess use yokels will just have to wait
[06:35] <jrg> i feel like a teenager who is mad that all the cool ps4 games go to japan first :/
[06:36] <jrg> knowing the US tho.. it will probably AT&T exclusive for 10 years :/
[06:40] <svij> jrg: I always feel like that, when all the services starts in US and not in the EU ;)
[06:43] <jrg> haha
[06:44] <jrg> ah well. at least by the time it gets here they'd have ironed out all the bugs :)
[06:44] <jrg> it isn't like ad-droid started out with a smooth launch or anythign else for that matter
[06:44] <jrg> i remember my HTC G1 ... and people still bought the just because of the google hype
[06:44] <jrg> it was awful heh
[06:45] <jrg> so does this one support the docking feature that was supposed to be a thing?
[06:45] <jrg> where you can connect it to a dock and it runs unity?
[06:56] <svij> jrg: no
[06:56] <svij> expect that in 2 years
[06:57] <svij> or hopefully less than two years
[07:49] <jrg> svij: ah ok. :/
[07:49] <jrg> that's too bad. seems like a pretty neat idea.
[07:52] <dholbach> good morning
[08:11] <ogra_> mzanetti, the curse of the early adopter ... when i uploaded my first webapps (and wrote the script i use to create new ones) you could only upload armhf packages ... the store got support for other click arches only later
[08:11]  * ogra_ will try to not forget to switch them next upload
[09:34] <bzoltan_> mvo: ping
[09:35] <sverzegnassi> when I try to open a picture stored in $HOME/Pictures through the file manager, the gallery-app creates a copy of the image in the folder and open that copy instead of the original one. is it a known issue?
[09:56] <Chipaca> why does my keyboard connected via an OTG cable work to enter the password, but not in the terminal itself?
[09:57] <mvo> bzoltan_: hey, you are on my radar, in fact, next :) I guess its about the release?
[09:58] <bzoltan_> mvo: well :) you saw that folks go ballistic about my click fork :)
[09:59] <bzoltan_> mvo: It was just the question of time when somebody hit that conflict. Naturally. I think it is fairly easy to solve. If you check the latest MR and push out a release of the devel branch then we are fine and I can backport the  Vivid release to Trusty
[10:00] <uhhimhere> http://telecom.ashishbanerjee.com/spandroid
[10:00] <mvo> bzoltan_: yeah, that sounds like a plan
[10:00] <mvo> bzoltan_: sorry, I'm in under that snappy rock currently, I should have done that days ago
[10:00] <mvo> (the release)
[10:00] <bzoltan_> mvo:  but I must have the Trusty click release in the SDK PPA ... so the snappy ppa should not release a conflicting click package for Trusty
[10:01] <bzoltan_> mvo:  No worries... here we meet the phone and snappy :)
[10:01] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday and happy Radio Day! :-D
[10:01] <Chipaca> JamesTait: radio! that's like a dinosaur cellular network, yes?
[10:02] <Chipaca> JamesTait: an eukaryote cellular network, maybe
[10:03] <JamesTait> Chipaca, long range, though.
[10:03] <Chipaca> JamesTait: especially if you got the frequency just right and bounced it off the ionosphere ;)
[10:05] <Chipaca> heh, just realized i think of that as longer range / more interesting than, you know, talking to the voyagers
[10:05] <Chipaca> out in spaaaaace
[10:07] <JamesTait> Chipaca, the voyagers were taken over by aliens years ago. They've been beaming back the equivalent of "office party photocopier" shots just to see how we react. ;)
[10:07] <Chipaca> JamesTait: I knew it! No wonder it's called Uranus.
[10:08] <JamesTait> Touché!
[10:08] <Chipaca> no, thank you
[10:11] <downow> how can i add more search engines in downow app
[10:38] <seb128> mzanetti, https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/ubuntu-system-settings/bluetooth-key-hint-workaround/+merge/249622 just fyi
[12:31] <mvo> bzoltan_: what was the version used in the ppa again? i.e. what version to I need to be "bigger" ?
[12:32] <mvo> bzoltan_: nevermind, found it
[12:43] <w-flo> rsalveti, hi :) I love the ubuntu emulator, very smooth compared to the default android emulator. I noticed a kernel panic that is solved in upstream goldfish kernel though and reported bug 1420366 about it. I've fixed it locally but wanted to make sure someone from Canonical knows about that issue so it can get fixed eventually.
[12:45] <rsalveti> w-flo: awesome, thanks for finding out the patch
[12:46] <Tm_T> uhhh nice
[12:46] <w-flo> rsalveti, I guess you eventually sync up to the latest goldfish kernel anyway, so that should fix it
[12:47] <Tm_T> switched sim-card in my phone and now the swipe to get to passcode entry doesn't work
[12:47] <rsalveti> w-flo: yeah, will check if we can do a simple rebase, otherwise will just add that patch
[12:47] <w-flo> rsalveti, thanks a lot :)
[12:48] <rsalveti> thank you
[12:48] <Tm_T> ha, reboot fixed it
[13:18] <mardy> popey: hi! About bug 1420743, was that a new account you created while logging in?
[13:20] <popey> mardy: no, existing account
[13:22] <mardy> popey: thanks. What is the "local mode"?
[13:23] <popey> mardy: the new version of reminders can work without online accounts
[13:23] <popey> i.e. with no need for evernote account
[13:24] <mardy> popey: do you know some internal detail about it? Does it work on setting some flag on the library, or are there some config files being read to toggle that behaviour?
[13:26] <mardy> popey: I suspect that it might be that the evernote toolkit is being told not to connect to the internet, and because of that reason, fetching the username fails
[13:26] <popey> hang on..
[13:26] <popey> I am not using reminders
[13:26] <popey> I am _only_ going to online accounts and trying to add an evernote account
[13:27] <mardy> popey: yes, but the evernote account plugin loads a binary module, which IIRC comes from the evernote toolkit
[13:27] <popey> right, but that's the same as the one from previous releases
[13:27] <mardy> popey: we rely on that to get the account username, after the OAuth process has completed
[13:27] <popey> the changes to offline use are inside the reminders app
[13:27] <mardy> popey: my question is whether that could be configured to not talk to the internet
[13:28] <mardy> popey: if the main app does something like echo "no internet" > ~.config/evernote.ini, the plugin would read that, even if started from the system settings
[13:29] <popey> I don't know. mzanetti developed this.
[13:29] <mardy> mzanetti: do you know if the changes you did might affect the functionality of the evernote toolkit?
[13:30] <pngo_> wxl; try log in to your phone first and than adb shell
[13:31] <pngo_> sorry,did not scroll all the way down
[14:20] <_1_Sid> QUESTION: Does the Ubuntu Touch policy allow a third party proxy app?
[14:22] <dobey> i don't quite understand the question. you mean to configure a network proxy?
[14:26] <_1_Sid> I want to connect to a proxy so that all my traffic from and to the phone will be directed via the proxy-server.
[14:27] <_1_Sid> the endresult should be that I have a different IP address  for my requests.
[14:30] <dobey> _1_Sid: proxies are not yet supported in the system. a third party app wouldn't be able to add proxy support, no
[14:30] <dobey> i hope openvpn support can be added soon though
[14:32] <_1_Sid> That would do the trick as well. Do you have a rough estimated timeframe for it?
[14:36] <uhhimhere> are there dyson-esque cyclonic filter alternatives for PC fans?
[15:09] <uhhimhere> is there such a thing as an opensource bubble?
[15:09] <seb128> kenvandine, jgdx, hey there, did you see that CI is grumpy, seems settings segfaults under CI vivid?
[15:09] <k1l> can you rephrase?
[15:10] <kenvandine> seb128, i was asking plars about that earlier this week, it's not starting
[15:10] <kenvandine> sometimes
[15:10] <kenvandine> plars, did you ever figure that out?
[15:14] <plars> kenvandine: If the app is segfaulting, I'm not sure what we can do about that. Were you able to get the crash log from it?
[15:15] <kenvandine> i wasn't seeing segfaults actually
[15:15] <kenvandine> so that must be different
[15:15] <seb128> kenvandine, well, maybe it's not a segfault
[15:15] <seb128> it seems to exit
[15:15] <seb128> not sure why
[15:16] <seb128> or to not start
[15:16] <seb128> the logs are not useful
[15:16] <kenvandine> remember in mine the app did start, but the test thought it didn't start
[15:16] <kenvandine> plars, which i can't reproduce locally on my mako
[15:16] <kenvandine> all the tests passed here
[15:16] <plars> kenvandine: we were talking to elopio about that on irc when it happened. It seemed like either there was some kind of race, or else autopilot/ubuntu-app-launch was failing to see that the app started
[15:17] <kenvandine> plars, yeah... but... system-settings isn't using upstart-app-launch
[15:17] <kenvandine> it's using the other helper to start it
[15:17] <kenvandine> elopio had been suggesting i switch that a while back
[15:17] <plars> kenvandine: according to elopio, autopilot uses it to start the app
[15:17] <kenvandine> not for settings
[15:17] <plars> ah
[15:17] <plars> ok
[15:17] <kenvandine> the other apps do
[15:18] <kenvandine> it's not all that simple for settings to change, it turned into a little more work
[15:18] <plars> so perhaps that's why it has this problem and the others do not?
[15:18] <kenvandine> plars, anyway, so we can rule out ubuntu-app-launch for settings
[15:18] <kenvandine> plars, well camera-app was having the problem too
[15:19] <kenvandine> plars, and this is a new problem, which i can't reproduce on my device
[15:19] <kenvandine> jgdx tried to reproduce it too
[15:19] <kenvandine> it's only happening in CI
[15:19] <plars> kenvandine: give me a bit, we are on a standup right now
[15:19] <kenvandine> and, i think it's passing in smoke testing
[15:19] <kenvandine> camera-app was failing in smoke testing
[15:19] <kenvandine> for settings it was just CI
[15:19] <kenvandine> afaik
[15:20] <kenvandine> so could be completely unrelated
[15:20] <jgdx> kenvandine, yeah, on mako. One test consistently failed on ci with symptoms of a crash. Could not repro on mako (vivid) locally.
[15:20] <seb128> kenvandine, jgdx, in fact, http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/02/13/%23ubuntu-ci-eng.html#t10:44
[15:20] <kenvandine> jgdx, but is there a crash file?
[15:20] <seb128> psivaa_ said there was a crash file attached
[15:20] <kenvandine> i think elopio found that it did start
[15:20] <kenvandine> unless he was talking about camera-app
[15:21] <jgdx> kenvandine, not that I recall by looking at the artifacts.
[15:23] <jgdx> seb128, kenvandine, but yeah, everything points to security panel tests. We recently added the sim unlock (c++ binding), which might cause this.
[15:23] <kenvandine> but it passes locally
[15:23] <jgdx> something intermittent then
[15:24] <jgdx> It uses a service in indicator-network :p
[15:28] <seb128> kenvandine, jgdx, did you see the log? there is a .crash there
[15:29] <jgdx> seb128, yeah, looking. Do you know why the stacktrace talks about qtfeedback?
[15:31] <seb128> no idea no :-/
[15:36] <TeraJL> hi there i'm trying to build it, but i get this error "Invalid clone.bundle file; ignoring." and then nothing happens, if i cancel and re run "repo init -u https://code-review.phablet.ubuntu.com/p/aosp/platform/manifest.git -b phablet-4.4.2_r1" i get nothing... it just stays there with no output
[15:38] <kenvandine> mandel, do you think you can get the check hash fix in a vivid silo today?  we really need to get the rtm landing lined up for monday or tuesday
[15:44] <slvn_> Hi! I am developping/porting native applications in C/C++ for smartphones/tablets.
[15:44] <slvn_> And I would like to open an URL from my app, to a browser.
[15:44] <slvn_> That would be great if "xdg-open" could be installed by default on the image!
[15:44] <TeraJL> i waited allot and got "RPC failed; result=22, HTTP code = 503 fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly"
[15:44] <ogra_> rsalveti, ^^^ any idea whats going on with our gerrit ?
[15:45] <ogra_> i had the same issue today (with a different branch though)
[15:45] <rsalveti> argh, might be the usual lack of memory issue
[15:45] <rsalveti> might need a restart
[15:45] <ogra_> lots of 503s
[15:45] <rsalveti> yeah, we get that from time to time
[15:50] <rsalveti> TeraJL: ogra_: we're restarting the service in a few, so please try again in a few minutes
[15:50] <TeraJL> rsalveti: oh, ok thanks :)
[15:59] <mandel> kenvandine, yes
[15:59] <mandel> kenvandine, I should be able to get it there, I'm just hunting a small issue with a test
[16:00] <kenvandine> mandel, thx!
[16:13] <seb128> kenvandine, if you do a settings merging please include https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/ubuntu-system-settings/set-correct-application-name/+merge/249613
[16:21] <simosx> lsusb for the bq phone shows 'Bus 001 Device 007: ID 2a47:0c02' (no description). Should a description be added to the USB ID?
[16:23] <kenvandine> seb128, will do!
[16:24] <seb128> kenvandine, thanks!
[16:24] <ogra_> simosx, purely cosmetic, but yeah, that would be nice ... pitti ^^^ would that be a udev wishlist bug ?
[16:31] <wxl> neither `ubuntu-device-flash` or `system-image-cli` seems to properly handle the --list-channels switch. has the procedure changed?
[16:32] <Elleo> wxl: yep, ubuntu-device-flash is split into sub-commands now
[16:32] <Elleo> wxl: you need to pass that option to the query sub-command
[16:32] <Elleo> wxl: e.g. ubuntu-device-flash query --list-channels --device=mako
[16:33] <wxl> thanks Elleo. wiki needs a little update then :)
[16:34] <Elleo> you're welcome :)
[16:35] <wxl> unfortunately i can't edit developer.ubuntu.com so https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/image-channels/ among other places
[16:35] <wxl> should that bug be filed against the ubuntu website, Elleo ?
[16:36] <Elleo> wxl: I filed a bug recently here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/developer-ubuntu-com/+bug/1418245 I'll add a comment about the case you ran into as well
[16:36] <wxl> great thanks :)
[16:37] <Elleo> no problem :)
[16:38] <dpm> Elleo, someone is asking me about how predictive text works in Ubuntu, but how the OSK works is a bit blurry to myself too, so I thought I'd ask you for the basics. So for starters, ubuntu-keyboard is a plugin for maliit, right? And we're using upstream maliit as a framework?
[16:39] <Elleo> dpm: yep, and for predictive text we're using presage in our maliit plugin: http://presage.sourceforge.net/
[16:39] <Elleo> dpm: as well as getting some extra suggestions from hunspell
[16:39] <Elleo> dpm: except for pinyin, for which we use libpinyin
[16:40] <dpm> Elleo, ah, thanks. Is the maliit framework (or server?) still active as a project? I had heard they weren't much
[16:41] <Elleo> dpm: there's been a bit more activity recently (mostly courtesy of the Jolla folks I think), but it's not massively active
[16:42] <wxl> Elleo: does system-image-cli work the same way?
[16:42] <dpm> Elleo, so how does presage work in relationship to maliit? Is it also a plugin? Is it shipped as part of maliit or is it a separate package?
[16:43] <Elleo> dpm: presage is a separate package and it doesn't have any direct relation to maliit; we just use it in our own maliit plugin (ubuntu-keyboard)
[16:43] <Elleo> dpm: although I think it might be used in one of the maliit example plugins (which looks like it pulled in some stuff from ubuntu-keyboard a while back)
[16:44] <Elleo> wxl: according to --help system-image-cli should work normally, but it doesn't seem to return anything
[16:44] <Elleo> wxl: so it might be a good idea to log a bug against that
[16:44] <dpm> thanks Elleo
[16:45] <wxl> Elleo: yeah that was the issue i noticed too
[16:45] <Elleo> dpm: no problem :)
[16:46] <wxl> hm and the help for ubuntu-device-flash seems incomplete too
[16:48] <pitti> simosx, ogra_: description should be added to usbutils
[16:54] <ogra_> pitti, thanks
[16:55] <wxl> Elleo: if you run system-image-cli -vv --list-channels i think the problem becomes evident
[16:56] <john-mcaleely> silly question time (google failed me), is there a way to enter the android container?
[16:56] <Elleo> wxl: ah yeah, definitely file a bug for that
[16:56] <wxl> Elleo: i can't ubuntu-bug from the phone can i?
[16:57] <simosx> pitti, thanks. shall I add a bug report on launchpad or someone will do it?
[16:57] <Elleo> wxl: not yet I'm afraid
[16:57] <Elleo> wxl: has to be done the old fashioned way ;)
[16:57] <TeraJL> hi there, i'm trying to build this "https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/wip-ubuntu-touch-for-oneplus-one.266170/" but on "Adding roomservice.yml to .repo/local_manifests" i tried to add but i get "build/core/product_config.mk:222: *** Can not locate config makefile for product "aosp_bacon".  Stop."
[16:57] <wxl> Elleo: gross. :)
[16:57] <Elleo> heh
[17:05] <pitti> simosx: bug report appreciated (needs upstreaming/can't do right now)
[17:10] <simosx> pitti, I can do the process (as described at http://www.linux-usb.org/usb-ids.html). Is "bq Aquaris E4.5 (ubuntu edition)" a good text?
[17:11] <ogra_> simosx, the android device uses the same IDs
[17:11] <pitti> simosx: I don't feel qualified to answer that; but why "(ubuntu edition)", is that really a different product ID?
[17:11] <ogra_> so leave off the bracket stuff
[17:11] <simosx> pitti, I'll go for "bq Aquaris E4.5".
[17:13] <john-mcaleely> ogra_, do you know the incantation to get a shell in the android container? I'm trying to parse the lxc docs, without luck so far
[17:14] <ogra_> john-mcaleely, lxc-console -t0 -nandroid
[17:14] <john-mcaleely> -t0 aha
[17:14] <ogra_> john-mcaleely, note that it tells you how to get out of it ... (special key combo)
[17:15] <john-mcaleely> ogra_, thanks
[17:15] <ogra_> :)
[17:29] <simosx> pitti, here is the report, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usbutils/+bug/1421740    if someone can bless it, I'll take the next steps according to http://www.linux-usb.org/usb-ids.html
[17:40] <kenvandine> bfiller,  see bug 1421696, didn't you have a bug filed for that ages ago?
[17:40] <kenvandine> we really need to fix that, I'm surprised we never did
[17:41] <bfiller> kenvandine: hmn, doesn't ring a bell. that's a unity notification issue
[17:41] <kenvandine> yeah
[17:41] <kenvandine> i remember you complaining about that
[17:41] <kenvandine> i thought you had filed a bug... but i could be wrong
[17:41] <bfiller> probably did, I agree it's bogus
[17:41] <kenvandine> it might have been in the bar actually
[17:42] <kenvandine> that you were complaining about it
[17:42]  * kenvandine confirms bug... it is freaking annoying
[17:49] <kenvandine> bfiller, uh oh... i'm looking at the changes file for vivid #97
[17:49] <kenvandine> qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-extras0.1 was dropped
[17:49] <kenvandine> but qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-extras0.2 wasn't added
[17:49] <kenvandine> i saw the seed change land
[17:50] <kenvandine> oh, gallery-app and camera-app wasn't updated in that image
[17:50] <dobey> kenvandine: part of the problem there is that for SMS it presents a reply entry when you tap on it, but might not be the best thing to have there.
[17:50] <kenvandine> bfiller, weird, didn't those change the same time as mediaplayer-app?
[17:50] <bfiller> kenvandine: gallery and camera are clicks (as well as debs, but debs only used on the desktop)
[17:51] <bfiller> kenvandine: but -- 97 does have a broken mediaplayer app which I fixed last night. there was an unused import of extras0.1 that I missed
[17:51] <bfiller> kenvandine: that should be fixed if you update
[17:53] <kenvandine> bfiller, ah... forgot about the clicks :)
[17:53] <kenvandine> right
[17:53] <kenvandine> i guess the seed didn't get updated in time
[17:53] <kenvandine> bfiller, did the clicks get to the store already?
[17:54] <kenvandine> if so, they'll be broken, since new dep isn't in the image yet
[17:55] <kenvandine> bfiller, so we need to make sure the images get updated with the seed change before those clicks land in the store
[17:56] <bfiller> kenvandine: no the clicks have not been updated yet, also we wrote them to be dynamic so they will work with or without ui-extras in the image
[17:56] <kenvandine> oh  great!
[17:56] <kenvandine> then ignore me :)
[17:56] <kenvandine> i was worried
[17:56] <bfiller> kenvandine: cause can't be sure if user will have updated their system or not
[17:57] <bfiller> kenvandine: I was worried too - but we worked it out earlier in the week
[18:35] <slvn_> Hi! I repost again.
[18:35] <slvn_> I am developping/porting native applications in C/C++ for smartphones/tablets.
[18:35] <slvn_> And I would like to open an URL from my app, to a browser.
[18:35] <slvn_> On ubuntu desktop, we can use "xdg-open", I am not sure that it is on smartphone/tablet.
[18:35] <slvn_> That would be great if "xdg-open" could be installed by default on the image!
[18:38] <FreeNet[node]> does ubuntu phone supports VR headset?
[18:49] <popey> slvn_: not sure how browser is launched, but it gets launched from various places.
[18:49] <FreeNet[node]> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7soFYjn_pQc
[18:51] <FreeNet[node]> i would love to see sammy in full VR
[18:51] <popey> slvn_: e.g. the about box in dropping letters has links which spawn the browser
[18:51] <popey> FreeNet[node]: enough
[18:52] <wxl> anyone got suggestions for cheap service plans in the US?
[18:52] <popey> mhall119: picked up a couple of SIMs recently
[18:52] <mhall119> wxl: AT&T has a voice and SMS plan for $25/month
[18:53] <mhall119> you can add 100MB or 3G for an extra $5
[18:53] <wxl> mhall119: that seems better than straighttalk
[18:53] <mhall119> if you want more data than that, you might be better off with one of T-mobile's plans
[18:53] <wxl> i'd like to have it really limited honestly
[18:53] <wxl> i could almost live without data, but it's a good thing to have
[18:53] <mhall119> it's like 250 minutes of talk time, and I think unlimted sms/mms
[18:54] <mhall119> wxl: since it's pre-paid, you can add the data at any time
[18:54] <wxl> hm maybe it's not better than straight talk which is 1500 phone/unlimited text/100mb data for $30
[18:54] <mhall119> or add another 100MB for another $5 mid-month, which I've done before
[18:56] <mhall119> now I'm paying $45/month for 1GB of 3G, and unlimited 2G
[18:56] <popey> wow, internet is expensive in USA!
[18:56] <mhall119> yes :(
[18:56] <wxl> verizon has some interesting options, but the thing that's weird is that the pre-paid minutes expire
[18:57] <wxl> dumb
[18:57] <mhall119> I could get it cheaper on a contract plan, but I like the non-commitment of pre-paid
[18:57] <mhall119> wxl: also Verizon won't let you use a GSM phone
[18:57] <wxl> mhall119: you using your ubuntu device as your main phone?
[18:57] <wxl> oh boo
[18:57] <mhall119> wxl: yup, Nexus 4, has been my daily driver for 1.5 years now
[18:58] <wxl> cool
[18:59] <wxl> mhall119: so verizon wouldn't let you use a nexus 4 even though it is compatibel with umts if it's also compatible with gsm?!
[19:00] <mhall119> nope
[19:00] <wxl> that's freaking dumb. they must have dropped 2g altogether, huh?
[19:02] <wxl> popey: on the other hand, we're spoiled by 4g. we're just behind south korea, japan, and australia for 4g penetration (well, in 2013 at least)
[19:02] <popey> 4g is even more ridiculously expensive :)
[19:03] <popey> I live on a tiny island where wifi is common :)
[19:03] <wxl> yep but it soooooooooooo fast :)
[19:03] <wxl> that's cool
[19:03] <sverzegnassi> 45$/month... I'll never sound off about Italian providers
[19:03] <wxl> municipal wifi hasn't really caught on in the us
[19:03] <popey> there is a bandstand in the park near me which has free wifi in it
[19:03] <wxl> we have some really terrible wifi in eugene in select places, mostly near municipal buildings
[19:03] <popey> people congregate round the bandstand, not to hear the band, but for the wifi
[19:04] <wxl> hahahah
[19:38] <ataalik> Hello,  just gonna repeat the question here first " we are looking to hold a conference on mobile technologies and development and want to possibly invite someone from canonical to talk about Ubuntu Phone. Do you have any idea who should I contact"
[19:39] <popey> yes, what country and when?
[19:39] <popey> I'm guessing Turkey?
[19:40] <ataalik> Yeah it will be in Turkey on 17-19 April
[19:41] <popey> drop me an email with some more details of the event and I'll ask around on monday and see if we can find someone. - alan@canonical.com
[19:42] <ataalik> Splendid, thank you Alan.
[19:42] <dobey> wxl: if you want a cheap US SIM, i'd suggest t-mobile. verizon and sprint are cdma carriers, so don't have SIM cards btw
[19:43] <popey> ataalik: no problem, have a good weekend.
[19:47] <slvn_> popey, about the "browser". I am sure I understand your answer. I am developping apps nin C/C++. I want to open an url from my app. I would do in C code.  execlp("/usr/bin/xdg-open", "xdg-open", url, 0)   . that would be great if this could work on ubuntu smartphone/tablet
[19:47] <slvn_> I am not sure..
[19:52] <dobey> slvn_: there is no xdg-open on the phone
[19:52] <dobey> slvn_: are you not using Qt?
[19:53] <wxl> dobey: hm seems tmobile don't play with nexus 4's
[19:53] <wxl> although it was using t-mobile in the uk
[19:54] <dobey> wxl: what do you mean? i have t-mobile on my nexus 5 using ubuntu and it works fine
[19:54] <dobey> wxl: you do need to change from ipv6 to ip on the APN though
[19:54] <wxl> dobey: search for nexus 4 here http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/sim-card
[19:55] <dobey> wxl: yes, it lists a few nexus 4 options
[19:56] <wxl> dobey: yes but they're 4g which this isn't
[19:56] <slvn_> dobey, no, not using Qt, but SDL. An Api to open an URL in a browser would be nice. It can be done in android, ios, etc.  I would be nice to have it on ubuntu phone. It would even greater if it could be "xdg-open" because on desktop, it can be done this way.
[19:56] <dobey> wxl: yes it is. you just don't have the radio firmware that enables it. all nexus 4s had 4g disabled via radio firmware update long ago
[19:56] <dobey> wxl: you need a fairly old radio firmware to enable 4g. kenvandine just enabled it on his the other day :)
[19:56] <wxl> okie dokie
[19:57] <dobey> slvn_: the official toolkit provides an api to open a link.
[19:59] <dobey> meh i wish speedtest.net would drop flash
[19:59] <wxl> huh cool
[19:59] <wxl> virgin mobile has customs plans
[20:00] <dobey> wxl: are you based in the us or the uk?
[20:00] <wxl> dobey: us
[20:00] <wxl> oh but you're right t-mobile *IS* better
[20:00] <dobey> wxl: definitely recommend t-mo then, especially if you travel overseas much.
[20:01] <wxl> pay as you go is as little as $4
[20:01] <wxl> $3 that is
[20:02] <dobey> well, 1GB of 4G and unlimited everything else and 3G is $50/mo. that's global data. calls when roaming are also pretty cheap
[20:02] <cwayne> tmo overseas is like the greatest thing of all time
[20:03] <dobey> plus t-mo has unlimited 4G for some music streaming services like spotify/grooveshark
[20:03] <wxl> dobey: yeah once i hack it to work :)
[20:03] <slvn_> dobey, Well I can't find this api... do you have an url ?
[20:04] <kenvandine> dobey, wxl: not old... it's a hybrid lte firmware from xda
[20:05] <anpok> slvn_: something like that? https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/apps/platform/guides/url-dispatcher-guide/
[20:05] <kenvandine> wxl, http://people.canonical.com/~kenvandine/mako_hybrid_104_33.zip
[20:05] <dobey> slvn_: http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qdesktopservices.html#openUrl or the link anpok provided
[20:06] <dobey> well it says to use the one i linked, so there :)
[20:07] <kenvandine> wxl,  you also need to set OFONO_RIL_RAT_LTE in /etc/init/ofono.override
[20:07] <dobey> oh right, i still need to do that
[20:07] <kenvandine> dobey, my 4g is working great now!
[20:08] <wxl> kenvandine: dude, you need to blog this stuff
[20:08] <wxl> or if you're feeling really dangerous, put it on the wiki XD
[20:08]  * wxl is ordering a sim card
[20:09] <kenvandine> wxl, so in that zip file, you need to flash modem.img with fastbook
[20:09] <kenvandine> fastboot  flash radio modem.img
[20:09] <dobey> cwayne: oh, did tmo work in china, or you had to get a cmc or something local sim?
[20:09] <kenvandine> while in the bootloader
[20:09] <cwayne> worked in china
[20:09] <dobey> sweet
[20:09] <cwayne> dobey: ^ like a charm
[20:09] <slvn_> dobey, anpok yes that's it. thanks. the only drawback is that I will now require Qt. Have "xdg-open" would have been easier for C/C++ application.
[20:10] <dobey> slvn_: like i said, that is not the official toolkit. so even if it were on the device, it would not necessarily be supported
[20:12] <slvn_> dobey, ok!
[20:15]  * wxl didn't even realize touch supported 4g. that's pretty cool.
[20:35] <kenvandine> mzanetti, ping
[20:36] <kenvandine> mzanetti, i don't think i have a way to test seb128's bluetooth-key-hint-workaround branch, it's in silo 23 if you have time to give it a quick test
[22:58] <simosx> Oh, my bq phone does not boot again. I tried to reboot and it appears dead (nothing is shown on screen). When connected to laptop, it shows up at 'lsusb'. Any recovery/factory reset steps?
[23:01] <genii> is adb devices  or fastboot devices  showing anything?
[23:02] <simosx> # adb devices
[23:02] <simosx> List of devices attached
[23:02] <simosx> ZZ001219	offline
[23:02] <simosx> 'fastboot devices' does not show something.
[23:03] <wxl> technically `fastboot devices` does nothing for me either
[23:04] <wxl> simosx: did you try booting while being plugged in?
[23:06] <simosx> wxl, tried booting both plugged in and unplugged. Did not work. The phone did not discharge or something; I just rebooted it.
[23:06] <wxl> simosx: not having one of these, do you have a way to remove the battery?
[23:06] <simosx> wxl, I think the battery cannot be removed.
[23:06] <wxl> bummer
[23:07] <Jsewill_> Hello all.  Does anyone know anything about when the new porting guide will be available?
[23:07] <simosx> there is a tiny hole at the back, near the flash. Is that a discharge/reset button?
[23:07] <wxl> Jsewill_: from what i've seen, it's in the review process and it should be out in the next few weeks or so.
[23:07] <Jsewill_> Oh, that's great!
[23:07] <Jsewill_> Just what I was hoping to hear.
[23:07] <Jsewill_> Thanks.
[23:07] <wxl> Jsewill_: this was recently discussed on the mailing list, if you're not already on it
[23:08] <Jsewill_> I should do join that.
[23:08] <wxl> Jsewill_: indeed
[23:08] <wxl> Jsewill_: what device you thinking about?
[23:08] <Jsewill_> OnePlus One, codename bacon.
[23:09] <wxl> ooh fun
[23:09] <Jsewill_> And whatever other devices I find myself wanting attempt to port to.
[23:09] <wxl> hehehe
[23:09] <simosx> is there a way to invoke the recovery on the bq?
[23:10] <wxl> Jsewill_: actually looking at the message again, it looks like it will be the next few days! https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg11161.html
[23:10] <cwayne> simosx: i think that's a microphone not a button
[23:10] <Jsewill_> AH!  Awesome.
[23:10] <cwayne> simosx: I think your best option is to press + hold vol up + power for like 10 seconds to force a hard reboot
[23:11] <wxl> that sounds like a good idea cwayne
[23:11] <wxl> there's usually something funky like that on phones
[23:11] <cwayne> er, let me double check that that's the right key combo
[23:11] <wxl> well youo don't have many keys to work with! XD
[23:11] <cwayne> :)
[23:12] <cwayne> yeah vol up + power gets you to recovery
[23:12] <simosx> cwayne, ok, the phone is back and alive 8-). It rebooted succesfully.
[23:12] <cwayne> :)
[23:13] <wxl> yay simosx
[23:13] <cwayne> glad to help
[23:13] <wxl> when in doubt, slam on all the buttons
[23:15] <cwayne> lol
[23:15] <simosx> it's not clear how it managed to reboot. I pressed the power button a few times, and kept pressing it, then had a look at dmesg (host computer), and the phone just came up.
[23:16] <simosx> Next time will try to figure out how to bring it up.
[23:17] <cwayne> generally with the bq holding the power for a long time (10 sec or so) does the trick
[23:33]  * simosx just pushed to the phone a helloworld app with QtCreator. Nice.