[00:00] <k1l_> the package manager accepts any .deb package you install. a computer is a dumb machine. you still need to think yourself
[00:00] <OerHeks> As the packagemanager cannot confirm it will install, it asks you that question.
[00:00] <EriC^^> do you think we are ubuntu developers and in particular the software manager department?
[00:00] <computerquip> EriC^^, I never even claimed as such.
[00:01] <EriC^^> computerquip: you're questions wrap around that
[00:01] <EriC^^> *your
[00:01] <computerquip> No it doesn't.
[00:01] <computerquip> My question was basic and wondering if there was reasoning for the behavior.
[00:02] <daftykins> computerquip: i do see the problem - and it's with you and your plans
[00:02] <daftykins> !13.10
[00:02] <daftykins> been dead a long time, saucy.
[00:05] <EriC^^> computerquip: we can't troubleshoot unsupported/frankenstein setups, it's a journey you'll have to partake in yourself, but don't go on about not getting a direct answer to your questions here
[00:06] <EriC^^> computerquip: you've been given 2 commands and a link, apt-get -f install , dpkg -i <package>, and a link above to a thread
[00:06] <Jordan_U> t-dubs:
[00:06] <Jordan_U> t-dubs: Please run "pastebinit /cdrom/boot/grub/grub.cfg" and post the URL that it outputs.
[00:07] <JustNeedHelp> I need help. Can someone give me a link to downloading ubuntu
[00:07] <k1l_> !downloads | JustNeedHelp
[00:07] <k1l_> !download | JustNeedHelp
[00:07] <JustNeedHelp> thx
[00:07] <OerHeks> JustNeedHelp, or use torrents ? http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[00:08] <JustNeedHelp> brb in a hour or so
[00:09] <rpp601> hey guys what command will tell me what kind of processor i have
[00:09] <Jordan_U> rpp601: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[00:10] <montetobuso> can anyone point me to a good channel to get some help with mint?
[00:10] <EriC^^> !mint  | montetobuso
[00:10] <montetobuso> thank you very much!
[00:11] <EriC^^> no problem
[00:11] <cluelessperson> I'm very suddenly having a problem with ubuntu for apparently no reason.  It was stuck at GRUB, no countdown, and now I have a blinking cursor
[00:11] <cluelessperson> won't bootup
[00:12] <rpp601> what would be better? An intel core2 duo @ 1.86ghz or a pentium 4 @ 3.2ghz?
[00:12] <daftykins> cluelessperson: reset, hold down left shift, try picking an older kernel
[00:12] <daftykins> rpp601: c2d
[00:12] <EriC^^> cluelessperson: you don't get grub anymore?
[00:12] <rpp601> daftykins: for gaming as well?
[00:12] <daftykins> rpp601: yep
[00:12] <OerHeks> p4 is single core.
[00:12] <rpp601> daftykins: i thought so, thx
[00:12] <genii> Check to see that there are not stray USB sticks or other possible boot things attached
[00:12] <cluelessperson> EriC^^: I did, but I had to hit enter, it's supposed to boot auto  . wtf is it suddenly screwing up for
[00:12] <k1l_> rpp601: dont think of gaming with that old cpus :)
[00:13] <rpp601> OerHeks: i know but i had to ask because 1.86 vs 3.2ghz was such a big differenc34
[00:13] <cluelessperson> daftykins:   I did, now it said  "busybox" ubuntu built in shell (initramfs)
[00:13] <rpp601> k1l_: i'm poor :) i'm talking older games here
[00:13] <cluelessperson> blinking cursor
[00:13] <OerHeks> rpp601, multimedia wants a 2nd core ..
[00:13] <EriC^^> cluelessperson: check what genii said
[00:13] <daftykins> ^
[00:13] <cluelessperson> genii: There are none
[00:14] <daftykins> rpp601: yeah, clock speed is a measure of opportunity - not guaranteed action :) so very far apart hardware timewise there, they cannot be compared by clock speed
[00:14] <EriC^^> cluelessperson: did you try a different kernel maybe?
[00:14] <cluelessperson> EriC^^: No, I was running some production stuff off this and at the very least need to retrieve the database off it
[00:15] <cluelessperson> This has been running for weeks, I don't understand why it just fucks up now for no reason
[00:15] <EriC^^> !language
[00:15] <rpp601> daftykins, OerHeks, i'm going get this up to 3gb ram and try and run an older call of duty. it has an nvidia card in it.
[00:15] <daftykins> rpp601: which nvidia card? i don't know about games such as COD under Linux, so not sure how wise that is
[00:16] <EriC^^> cluelessperson: try an older kernel
[00:16] <cluelessperson> EriC^^: I don't know how.  I'm not a sysadmin
[00:16] <EriC^^> it could be a newer kernel was installed, which caused update-grub to update and revert any manual changes that were made
[00:16] <kastan> how would i go about updateing wine
[00:17] <cluelessperson> Why would this one just break
[00:17] <daftykins> kastan: what is "dpkg -l | grep wine" ?
[00:17] <rpp601> daftykins: i was going to put xp on it for the games, the card is a GeForce 7300, LE. So i'd be the C2Duo, 3gb, and the 128mb 7300. I'm hoping for like call of duty 2 or 3 ish.
[00:17] <nicomachus> kastan: should update with the rest of your software in the update manager.
[00:17] <cluelessperson> EriC^^: I don't know how to revert
[00:17] <daftykins> rpp601: is there a reason you're dealing with museum pieces? :)
[00:17] <EriC^^> cluelessperson: i dont know, it might be it, when grub comes, go to advanced and pick an older kernel
[00:18] <kastan> ok thank you
[00:18] <kastan> whats wines limitations
[00:18] <rpp601> daftykins: yes lol. i have no cash to spend on PC's so i deal in donations only. :-/
[00:18] <rpp601> daftykins: it's sad i know.
[00:18] <daftykins> kastan: no you have to run the above command as a step in finding out if your wine is out of date.
[00:18] <kastan> im having trouble opening the most basic exe packages
[00:18] <genii> cluelessperson: There might be something attached which is causing the issue. If I leave an sdcard in the reader of my laptop for instance, I get the identical behaviour you described
[00:19] <kastan> so after i run the command how would i update it to the newest version?
[00:19] <cluelessperson> genii:   Nothing is attached except network cable.  It sits in my cubicle cabinet
[00:19] <nicomachus> kastan: if you run the command that daftykins gave you, it will tell the current version.
[00:19] <nicomachus> kastan: then you can see if you need to update or if it's something else.
[00:20] <daftykins> kastan: one step at a time. show me the answer than we can proceed
[00:20] <genii> cluelessperson: Were the drives recently moved around in the computer?
[00:20] <kastan> im running 1.6.2 and that is not the current version
[00:20] <cluelessperson> genii:   No, this has been sitting in there for weeks untouched, I just came in today and its down
[00:20] <daftykins> kastan: which ubuntu are you on? "cat /etc/issue"
[00:21] <genii> cluelessperson: iT IS BEGINNING TO SOUND LIKE HARDWARE FAILURE OF THE DRIVE
[00:21] <rpp601> daftykins: my tablet is faster than my pc's lol.
[00:21] <genii> oops capslock
[00:22] <daftykins> genii: my ears! :)
[00:22] <genii> heh
[00:22] <nicomachus> rpp601: my phone has more HDD space than my PC. :(
[00:22] <kastan> daftykin: is says no such file or directory
[00:22] <designbybeck_> Could it be the case that some laptops, 6-8 years old are to old for 14.04? and need 12.04 instead???
[00:22] <cluelessperson> genii: Highly doubt that.
[00:22] <daftykins> kastan: what about "lsb_release -a" ?
[00:23] <rpp601> nicomachus: lol i know the feeling.
[00:23] <k1l_> designbybeck_: no
[00:23] <genii> cluelessperson: Are you able to get into the BIOS ? It might be good to enable in there SMART monitoring and then see if during boot it reports that the drive is beginning to fail
[00:23] <nicomachus> rpp601: 1TB HDD is on the way, though!
[00:23] <k1l_> designbybeck_: you might want to look at Lubuntu for old and low hardware
[00:23] <rpp601> nicomachus: me too actually! just ordered one
[00:23] <nicomachus> trying to decide the best way to destroy the worthless 80gb
[00:23] <cluelessperson> genii: Drive beginning to fail wouldn't cause it to just not boot like this
[00:23] <genii> cluelessperson: Regardless of your belief or doubt, the symptoms fit
[00:23] <nicomachus> got mine at micro center for $49.99
[00:23] <rpp601> designbybeck: xubuntu 12.04 is good on my (extra old) old pc
[00:24] <designbybeck_> k1l_, I have two dell laptops I am having fits with! they will not turn on if they've gone to sleep, even after enabling their propreitary broadcom drivers they will not show network
[00:24] <cluelessperson> genii:   ..?
[00:24] <daftykins> rpp601: nicholasalipaz general chat in PM or #ubuntu-offtopic please. support only in here :)
[00:24] <genii> cluelessperson: If bad sectors are where it's supposed to begin the loading the OS, yes
[00:24] <EriC^^> cluelessperson: maybe somebody had manually edited grub to boot a certain disk, and when the kernel updated that caused grub to revert the changes, so now the timeout is set and it can't find the disks either
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[00:24] <rpp601> daftykins: sorry boss
[00:24] <designbybeck_> I've been trying Xubuntu 14.04 with these k1l_
[00:24] <daftykins> nicomachus: sorry that was meant to be you in my last line
[00:24] <daftykins> nicholasalipaz: bad highlight, sorry
[00:24] <kastan> daftykin: ubuntu 14.04.1 codename trusty
[00:24] <nicomachus> i got the message anyway. just waiting for the messages to slow down a bit before I ask a couple questions.
[00:24] <daftykins> !info wine trusty
[00:24] <genii> cluelessperson: Does this thing have a DVD or CD drive it can boot from? Might want to boot to a livecd and investigate from there
[00:25] <daftykins> kastan: that is the correct version.
[00:25] <cluelessperson> genii:    .. I'm at a facility that repairs 44,000 machines a month.  this isn't hardware.  This is software.
[00:25] <daftykins> kastan: go chat with the team over in #winehq for why your programs might not be working
[00:25] <kastan> dafykins: ok thank you
[00:25] <user> does anyone know about networking
[00:26] <nicomachus> user: be more specific
[00:26] <daftykins> user: they love it in ##networking
[00:26] <genii> cluelessperson: At any rate, whether the drive is bad or still good, booting to a livecd allows investigating the problem further to narrow down the exact issue
[00:26] <genii> cluelessperson: Additionally, GRUB can be reinstalled from there
[00:26] <user> why do i need to unplug router every day to get net back
[00:27] <daftykins> cluelessperson: 30 seconds to boot a live session and pastebin smartctl's output to check the disk, then you can resume your original idea :)
[00:27] <designbybeck_> I'm downloading Xubuntu12.04.5 and going to try that
[00:27] <genii> user: That might be a better question for the ##hardware channel
[00:27] <user> ok thanks didnt know there was one
[00:27] <nicomachus> user: that is definitely a ##networking or ##hardware question. but it sounds like you have too many devices on one router. They'll be happy to help in ##networking or ##hardware
[00:28] <user> can u have to many
[00:28] <nicomachus> Yes.
[00:30] <nicomachus> daftykins: didn't I get some help from you once with AMD drivers in 14.04?
[00:30] <user> i have same on it for few years. cant work out why need unplug every day
[00:30] <nicomachus> user: ask ##networking or ##hardware
[00:30] <user> how i get that room mate
[00:31] <nicomachus> type /join ##networking or /join ##hardware
[00:31] <genii> user: I used to have a D-Link with same problem. Had to install openwrt on it eventually, it's own firmware had problems
[00:32] <genii> user: But regardless, since it is not an Ubuntu support question, you will get help better suited to your problem in the channels that have been mentioned to you
[00:32] <user> i have netgear running dgteam firmware or is official firmware better
[00:33] <nicomachus> Ok, things have slowed down. I'm can't get the display to scale in the AMD Catalyst Controls. The option is just completely grayed out.
[00:34] <nicomachus> I've tried a few different things, but no luck.
[00:34] <nicomachus> I found a couple support articles, etc but they were for Windows.
[00:34] <daftykins> nicomachus: possibly, there are so many helpees per day i forget though :)
[00:35] <nicomachus> haha, I gotcha.
[00:35] <daftykins> user: other channels please
[00:35] <daftykins> nicomachus: never actually used one directly myself, so no ideas on the CCC i'm afraid
[00:35] <user> ok ok daft
[00:35] <nicomachus> I just need scaling to work. I've spent ~3 weeks setting up this PC to be a home media center, and scaling is the last problem I need to tackle (for now)
[00:37] <daftykins> genii: Sierra asks to send you a coffee btw ;)
[00:37] <nicomachus> VGA works fine (blegh), but HDMI either cuts off part of the screen, or leaves a black edge around it.
[00:37]  * genii sips
[00:38] <daftykins> nicomachus: oh was it you with this tesco screen?
[00:39] <nicomachus> tesco......?
[00:39] <nicomachus> no.
[00:39] <nicomachus> haha. It's a 1080p 32-inch Sony LCD TV hanging on the way
[00:39] <nicomachus> wall not way
[00:40] <daftykins> nicomachus: ah ok, had someone with said hardware the other day. now i was convinced my TV wasn't to blame for overscan issues too, but i dug through the menus deep enough one day to find it
[00:40] <daftykins> nicomachus: although black bars around all 4 sides sounds like underscan :D so just the opposite almost
[00:40] <nicomachus> There's only one option to correct overscan, and it gives 4 different menu options. none resolve.
[00:41] <daftykins> nicomachus: fglrx or fglrx-updates ? repo or manual download?
[00:41] <nicomachus> and it's either overscan or underscan, depending on the settings. I just want to be able to use the scaling option so that I can scale it correct for the settings I want.
[00:41] <daftykins> yeah most TVs just have a 1:1 setting though, then it's done
[00:41] <nicomachus> it's on 1:1.
[00:42] <nicomachus> driver is fglrx-updates
[00:42] <nicomachus> If i use just fglrx, CCC won't even open.
[00:42] <daftykins> weird
[00:42] <Kickasses> Is it worth learning Ubuntu to learn red hat?
[00:42] <nicomachus> tell me about it....
[00:43] <daftykins> does it want to be run with gksu or something? maybe it wants to be so it can manipulate xorg.conf directly
[00:43] <daftykins> Kickasses: nope, you'd learn too much that'd be irrelevant
[00:43] <EriC^^> Kickasses: what's the end goal?
[00:43] <nicomachus> nope, tried that the other night.
[00:43] <Kickasses> Thanks guys
[00:43] <nicomachus> someone on here came to the conclusion that alternatives weren't installed correctly with fglrx
[00:43] <Kickasses> Erm...end goal...to administer red hat networks
[00:43] <daftykins> nicomachus: no ideas then, if it's a new enough card it might want manual downloads - but i'd pick through the /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see if there's a reason for it
[00:43] <EriC^^> Kickasses: centos and fedora are basically red hat
[00:44] <nicomachus> Kickasses: just go straight to redhat.
[00:44] <Kickasses> Thanks Eric
[00:44] <Kickasses> Thought it was debian
[00:44] <Kickasses> Mixed up debian and fedora
[00:44] <Kickasses> Red hat costs tho
[00:45] <nicomachus> what, really?
[00:45] <Kickasses> Doesn't it?
[00:45] <Goose_> YO guys
[00:45] <k1l_> Kickasses: if you ask in here use ubuntu :)  for other comparisons ask in #ubuntu-offtopic or in ##linux
[00:45] <EriC^^> fedora is the same they test stuff in it, centos is a really really stable version
[00:46] <Goose_> Anyone wanna help me out? Everytime I close my laptop, or go into suspend at all, my VPN disconnects. Anyone know how to fix that?
[00:46] <Kickasses> Had trouble in linux
[00:46] <nicomachus> Goose_ no way to fix that, sorry bro
[00:46] <Goose_> Well that's lame.
[00:46] <nicomachus> agreed.
[00:46] <Goose_> I'LL FIND A WAY
[00:46] <nicomachus> unless someone else tells me I'm wrong.
[00:46] <k1l_> Goose_: you cant stay connected whe you go in suspend or standby. you will need to reconnect afterwards.
[00:47] <nicomachus> there's an "autoconnect" option in the network manager, but it doesn't work.
[00:47] <rpp601> what about a cmd to show ram?
[00:47] <Goose_> Isn't there a 3rd party VPN autoconnect?
[00:47] <k1l_> rpp601: "free -m"
[00:47] <nicomachus> I remember there being a bug report about it soon after 14.04 came out.
[00:47] <Goose_> try glances, it shows everything
[00:47] <daftykins> rpp601: cat /proc/meminfo or what k1l_ said
[00:48] <Goose_> weird. I'll look into it and try to find a fix or make one myself
[00:48] <nicomachus> If you find one, Goose_, let me know!
[00:48] <Goose_> Will do man!
[00:48] <Goose_> I'll be back with info! hopefully...
[00:50] <craigbass76> Trying to start a samba fileserver.  /etc/init.d/smbd ?  I start that and see nothing samba related with netstat.
[00:50] <Goose_> I may just try to write a python script to make the network autoconnect to a specific VPN connection
[00:50] <Goose_> Before sending any information it could just connect to the VPN
[00:50] <Kickasses> Groovy goose
[00:50] <Goose_> be back
[00:50] <Kickasses> Showing off python skills
[00:50] <daftykins> craigbass76: sudo service samba start ?
[00:50] <Goose_> emphasis on try
[00:51] <craigbass76> daftykins, nope
[00:51] <Kickasses> Hehe goose, nicely camouflaged
[00:51] <daftykins> craigbass76: what are you 'proving' this via?
[00:52] <ivan_on_trac> I want to use ubuntu server. Database server. Application server.
[00:52] <ivan_on_trac> Others want CentOS, they think it is better, it is a Red Hat for free. However they never used RedHat or CentOS
[00:52] <ivan_on_trac> Any hint or idea. How to maintain that Ubuntu is better.
[00:52] <nicomachus> Goose_: I had a bash on Windows that would disallow any network traffic until I connected the VPN, but it wouldn't autoconnect.
[00:52] <daftykins> ivan_on_trac: there is no 'better'
[00:54] <ivan_on_trac> daftykins: It's true. But between CentOS or Ubuntu. The company does not want to pay subscription.
[00:54] <genii> ivan_on_trac: The Ubuntu documentation and community support. Like we're here now assisting users.
[00:54] <ivan_on_trac> The company never used RedHat or CentOS. I have no experience with them.
[00:54] <Pantsu> ivan_on_trac: hire someone who know what they are doing
[00:54] <phix> hi
[00:55] <Pantsu> that is the best way to maintain it better
[00:55] <phix> can i unlock two encrypted drives at boot time?
[00:55] <Pantsu> phix: depends on the encryption
[00:55] <Pantsu> generally yes
[00:55] <daftykins> ivan_on_trac: CentOS doesn't have a sub to my knowledge, however this topic is irrelevant in here. ask in #linux - this channel is *ubuntu* support only
[00:56] <ivan_on_trac> We use Slackware. And other minor things have utlilizam Ubuntu in the Company. We want to Slackware. And choose from CentOS or Ubuntu.
[00:57] <daftykins> ivan_on_trac: please stop with the off topic chat, i have directed you to join #linux
[00:58] <ivan_on_trac> daftykins: I'm not wondering subscription. I did not say that.
[00:58] <daftykins> ivan_on_trac: you're off topic. please move to #linux or #ubuntu-offtopic - thanks
[00:59] <t-dubs> Hey there, Daftykins, I need some more help..
[00:59] <ivan_on_trac> daftykins: I'm asking only if someone has been there. In having to state a choice.
[00:59] <t-dubs> I feel like a complete dick head for using yopu guys like this..
[01:00] <genii> t-dubs: Language, language, please
[01:00] <t-dubs> OOPs, sorry guys
[01:00] <daftykins> t-dubs: please address the channel in the first instance, sadly i do not know all
[01:01] <daftykins> ivan_on_trac: like i said. off topic. take it to one of those two other channels now please, i will be ignoring you from now on.
[01:01] <nicomachus> daftykins trying to be humble
[01:01] <daftykins> ;)
[01:01] <t-dubs> I know you don't,  daftykins,  but you're still three for three as far as I'm concerned ;)
[01:01] <phix> Pantsu: luks
[01:01] <t-dubs> Anyway, everyone:
[01:02] <t-dubs> I neded help playing video files.
[01:02] <phix> t-dubs: install vlc, done
[01:02] <daftykins> ^
[01:02] <nicomachus> lol
[01:02] <nicomachus> think this would help with my over/underscan? http://askubuntu.com/questions/463406/smaller-screen-after-installing-radeon-driver-from-amds-site
[01:03] <Pantsu> phix: just set up crypttab then
[01:03] <nicomachus> the second answer, not the first.
[01:03] <t-dubs> OK, so, Daftyknis: sudo apt-get install <vlc>?
[01:03] <daftykins> !info vlc
[01:03] <daftykins> sure is
[01:03] <nicomachus> don't know exactly what this command does: "sudo aticonfig --set-pcs-val=MCIL,DigitalHDTVDefaultUnderscan,0"
[01:03] <t-dubs> Wait a second..
[01:03] <t-dubs> What??
[01:04] <t-dubs> !info vlc?
[01:04] <daftykins> t-dubs: i used it to confirm the package name
[01:04] <t-dubs> I don;t know what that is, or how to use it.
[01:04] <nicomachus> lol t-dubs having an ephiphany
[01:04] <daftykins> it's a bot command
[01:04] <daftykins> t-dubs: install as you said.
[01:04] <t-dubs> OH ok
[01:04] <t-dubs> !info vlc
[01:04] <t-dubs> Awesome@
[01:04] <nrml1> you guys have experience with netapp?
[01:04] <t-dubs> That's SO cool!
[01:04] <daftykins> nicomachus: probably modifies xorg.conf - but you're using repo fglrx not downloaded from AMD's site, so i don't know on that one. make a backup of xorg.conf if it exists, then give it a go
[01:05] <daftykins> t-dubs: yeah, you can PM the bot too - helps reduce the spam for us ;)
[01:05] <daftykins> nrml1: can you phrase that so it sounds like an Ubuntu support question?
[01:05] <nrml1> yes
[01:05] <t-dubs> SPAM>
[01:06] <nrml1> does anyone know how to access netapp from ubuntu 14.04?
[01:06] <t-dubs> Excuse me, but, my questions are NOT spam!
[01:06] <t-dubs> lol
[01:06] <daftykins> t-dubs: right but if you started playing with ubottu in channel, we'd get very very angry. so just letting you know you can PM her (the bot) to your hearts content ;)
[01:06] <phix> Pantsu: i have, it doesnt prompt at boot time
[01:07] <phix> Pantsu: well i lie, it prompts for one, not both
[01:07] <OerHeks> nrml1, netapp isn't in the repos, and converting rpm to deb is a bad idea.
[01:08] <nrml1> :)
[01:08] <nrml1> A sense of humor is very important in life.
[01:08] <t-dubs> ok
[01:08] <t-dubs> Thanks a lot
[01:08] <phix> Pantsu: do i need to set another option in cryptab? or modify initram disc somehow?
[01:09] <t-dubs> So.. I have anb opinion question
[01:09] <phix> t-dubs: shoot
[01:09] <t-dubs> What do you guys prefer to burn dvds?
[01:09] <phix> dd
[01:09] <t-dubs> I know that ubuntu comes with a stock burner
[01:09] <daftykins> the time machine that takes me to the time DVDs were used
[01:10] <t-dubs> I hear ya ,sdafty\
[01:10] <t-dubs> lol
[01:10] <agent_white> t-dubs: Like phix said, dd. Learning it will pay off in more ways than one.
[01:10] <OerHeks> t-dubs, please easy on the enter, thanks.
[01:10] <phix> dd < dvd.iso > /dev/dvdrw
[01:10] <taplaptap> is there a way to get winkey+left, and winkey+right to do the same as windows?   also, is there a way to split vertically as well?
[01:11] <t-dubs> OK, sorry about that, guys, so, what is DD, and, why should i use it?
[01:11] <phix> taplaptap: what does superkey left and superkey right do?
[01:11] <taplaptap> what is superkey? winkey
[01:11] <phix> taplaptap: yes
[01:12] <Jordan_U> taplaptap: The key that's wearing a cape.
[01:12] <t-dubs> taplaptap, yeah it is
[01:12] <phix> taplaptap: but generic, non ms naming convention
[01:12] <daftykins> t-dubs: just run brasero, it's a GUI optical media writing program. dd is a bad suggestion
[01:12] <taplaptap> winkey left+right, will open the taskbar and put numbers on the taskbar
[01:12] <phix> taplaptap: wht?
[01:12] <phix> why?
[01:12] <taplaptap> i dunno, default ?
[01:12] <phix> what's the use case?
[01:13] <taplaptap> i want winkey+left to put 1 terminal 50% on the left, superkey+right, 50% on the right
[01:13] <t-dubs> brasero will allow me to burn dvds, right? as opposed to data discs?
[01:14] <OerHeks> t-dubs, open brasero, you will see it imediatly. pretty straight forward.
[01:14] <genii> t-dubs: Whatever you have to codecs installed for
[01:14] <phix> taplaptap: ok
[01:14] <emanuel_> Hello. I have a problem, I'm using a laptop with a damaged screen as a print sever. I'm using Ubuntu as the OS. Today the laptop was hung at  a screen about moutnting problems and fter choosing F to fix it was able to boot.I assume this is because the system was not shut down properly before. Is there a guide on how to make the system read only so a poor shutdown won't cause file system corruption?
[01:14] <t-dubs> OK, thsnkd a lot, OerHeks!!
[01:15] <t-dubs> Thanks to everyone currently in the room, too, for putting up with me, and all of my noob qhuestions and habits.
[01:15] <phix> emanuel_: it's a setting in /etc/fstab
[01:16] <genii> emanuel_: I think the main problem would be if it can run CUPS or whatever you're using without using swap
[01:16] <genii> or /tmp
[01:17] <emanuel_> genii I'm using CUPS and some HP non Opensource driver.
[01:18] <genii> emanuel_: You could test by temporarily mounting readonly, see if it makes problems or is fine. If fine, then do the fstab edit
[01:19] <t-dubs> So.. i had to install a ton of stuff to brasero
[01:19] <genii> emanuel_: eg: sudo mount -a -o remount,ro      ...then see if it complains. If not, then you're good to do it permanently in the fstab
[01:20] <t-dubs> and, it still won'y work
[01:20] <t-dubs> I can't burn the dvd.. it won't accept .mp4
[01:20] <emanuel_> It looks like no error after entering the command,. Now to try and print
[01:22] <t-dubs> so.. can anyone help me with this?
[01:23] <EriC^^> t-dubs: did you try k3b
[01:23] <t-dubs> no..
[01:23] <t-dubs> i don't even know what that is.
[01:23] <daftykins> pretty sure t-dubs is after having this mp4 turned into a playable DVD film playable in players
[01:24] <t-dubs> yeah
[01:24] <daftykins> that's blatantly unlawful so i'm not gonna have a hand in that.
[01:24] <t-dubs> what Daftykins said
[01:24] <OerHeks> install ubuntu-restricted-extras for all codecs and webplugins and you are fine
[01:24] <daftykins> t-dubs: please see freenode's policy on discussing unlawful actions and requests on this network
[01:24] <kostkon> t-dubs, open the software centre, search for devede, create the iso then burn it on a dvd using your default burner app brasero
[01:24] <t-dubs> ok, how does that work, or how do i do that?
[01:25] <t-dubs> i'm not doing anything unlawful, dafty!!
[01:25] <t-dubs> i own legit copies of these
[01:25] <kostkon> t-dubs, forgot the "install devede" part
[01:25] <daftykins> haven't heard that one before.
[01:25] <EriC^^> t-dubs: pu-lease
[01:26] <t-dubs> eric
[01:26] <t-dubs> i do.
[01:26] <t-dubs> i have the dvds
[01:26] <t-dubs> bought and paid for
[01:26] <daftykins> seriously, we are not 12, drop this now.
[01:26] <genii> emanuel_: Were you able to print successfully with the print server mounts all in read-only?
[01:27] <t-dubs> fine
[01:29] <emanuel_> genii I sent a print job and it printed
[01:29] <emanuel_> I had to go to the other room
[01:30] <omosoj> hi, i'm trying to set up my ubuntu vps to host a rails api
[01:30] <omosoj> i don't know much about it. i followed a few tutorials and failed a lot...
[01:30] <genii> emanuel_: If all went well then you are good to edit the /etc/fstab file and change them here to make it permanent
[01:30] <omosoj> how can i learn to do this well?
[01:31] <Jordan_U> t-dubs: You will get better quality, along with getting all of the original DVD menus and options, if you simply copy your existing DVDs rather than re-making a DVD from a rip that has be recompressed (and will need to be recompressed a second time back to mpeg 2).
[01:31]  * daftykins facepalms
[01:31] <nicomachus> ^lol
[01:32] <t-dubs> how do i do that, jordan?
[01:33] <emanuel_> genii will you help me edit the /etc/fstab?
[01:33] <t-dubs> I have the DVDs sitting right here
[01:33] <Jordan_U> t-dubs: Brasero has an option to make a disk image from a disk, which you can then burn. Another option is to copy the VIDEO_TS directory and burn it to another data DVD.
[01:34] <t-dubs> OK..
[01:34] <t-dubs> Let me see.. if i run into problems, i'll let you know, okm?
[01:36] <genii> emanuel_: I am leaving shortly.  Basically, I would say: sudo nano /etc/fstab     ...for the / mount, go to after it says errors=remount-ro   and put a comma, then ro so it looks like: errors=remount-ro,ro    ... for any other mounts, where it says defaults change that to ro
[01:36] <daftykins> Jordan_U: may i PM?
[01:37] <genii> emanuel_: To exit, ctrl-x , choose to save with same name by hitting enter key and it's done
[01:37] <Jordan_U> daftykins: Yes.
[01:38] <emanuel_> genii, thank you. the only other mount is swap. I don't think (but don't know) if a poor shutdown will affect swap
[01:39] <genii> emanuel_: emanuel_ You could also test running it without swap by issuing sudo swapoff       doing another print, etc. If it runs OK again you comment out the swap mount line in the fstab. If it gives errors then to leave it and do sudo swapon
[01:40] <Piccolo> Hello all, can anyone help with extracting a tar ball?
[01:40] <Piccolo> please
[01:41] <nicomachus> piccolo: right click, select "extract"
[01:41] <OerHeks> Piccolo, double-click on it in filemanager, and it opens in fileroller, easy to unpack.
[01:41] <emanuel_> genii thanks. will try that
[01:41] <Piccolo> command line?
[01:41] <nicomachus> oh
[01:41] <genii> Piccolo: Depends on the extension if bzr or tar.gz or such
[01:41] <Piccolo> I have tried tar -xz but it hangs
[01:41] <Piccolo> tar.gz
[01:42] <Piccolo> how do you check the integrity?
[01:42] <daftykins> Piccolo: tar xvf file.tar
[01:42] <genii> Piccolo: tar -xvzf tarname.tar.gz
[01:42] <Piccolo> thanks
[01:43] <Piccolo> coolbeans, worked, thanks guys!
[01:43] <Piccolo> and girls!
[01:48] <cluelessperson> uh uh
[01:48] <FredTom> hey, i can't open google chrome under 12.04
[01:48] <cluelessperson> I'm getting an "Unable to access "246 GB Volume"  on the server
[01:48] <FredTom> how can i debug?
[01:48] <cluelessperson> from the livecd
[01:50] <daftykins> cluelessperson: do you feel like sharing some SMART output with us so we can see if there's any damage?
[01:50] <daftykins> "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install smartmontools pastebinit" then "sudo smartmontools -a /dev/sdX | pastebinit"
[01:52] <OerHeks> FredTom, When google-chrome starts a session it creates some files under ~/.config/google-chrome ,  delete "SingletonLock", "SingletonCookie" and "SingletonSocket", and run google-chrome again.
[01:53] <OerHeks> FredTom, other cause: maybe there is an update too, run updatemanager
[01:53] <cluelessperson> genjix:  Sigh, ass, you were right
[01:54] <cluelessperson> daftykins:   Looks like a Read Error rate of 191
[01:54] <daftykins> cluelessperson: easy now, pastebin it - if it's seagate the read error rate value actually doesn't matter.
[01:54] <OerHeks> daftykins, smart is part of 'disks' now :-)
[01:54] <daftykins> OerHeks: it doesn't show the relevant data sadly
[01:54] <OerHeks> oh i c
[01:55] <daftykins> just a kinda generic "yay this is healthy" and often it claims that when a disk is toast
[01:55] <cluelessperson> SELF TEST FAILED, DUN DUN DUN
[01:56] <t-dubs> lol
[01:56] <daftykins> cluelessperson: seriously, there is no personally identifiable information within that command, sharing it is no biggy
[01:56] <t-dubs> that's funny, cluelessperson
[01:56] <cluelessperson> daftykins: I don't know what the command is and I'm on a liveboot
[01:57] <daftykins> cluelessperson: as above, "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install smartmontools pastebinit" then "sudo smartmontools -a /dev/sdX | pastebinit"
[01:58] <daftykins> cluelessperson: where obviously sdX is the actual letter of your drive
[01:58] <cluelessperson> daftykins: That's amazing. pastebinit. :)
[01:58] <daftykins> yep, so useful
[02:00] <FredTom> OerHerks: awesome
[02:00] <FredTom> that worked
[02:00] <OerHeks> FredTom, have fun
[02:03] <cluelessperson> daftykins: You are trying to send an empty document, exitting
[02:03] <FredTom> http://imgur.com/Q21vfAw
[02:04] <FredTom> ok so .. in 1... you can see the list item starting to be obscured by the top of the list
[02:05] <FredTom> the problem is that if i absolutly position the elements relative to their parent list.. then i can't drag them between list A and list B
[02:05]  * cluelessperson sometimes shuts servers off so people will talk to him. xD
[02:05] <daftykins> cluelessperson: "sudo parted -l" to confirm what drive you're going to check, probably /dev/sda ? then "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit" should work fine *if* those two packages were installed first as per my commands
[02:05] <FredTom> ah wrong channel
[02:05] <daftykins> FredTom: i was going to say :/
[02:06] <cluelessperson> daftykins:   I love you for showing me pastebinit.    http://paste.ubuntu.com/10197070
[02:07] <daftykins> cluelessperson: can you refresh my memory? this was a system that spontaneously stopped booting, yeah?
[02:07] <cluelessperson> daftykins:  >.> yes.
[02:07] <cluelessperson> daftykins:  during the night.  booted it, got stuck at grub, I had a previous install issue I thought it was the same.
[02:07] <daftykins> cluelessperson: yep, see line 72 - there are 27 pending sectors awaiting remap right now on that disk. it's about to fail big time, you need to backup and replace it immediately
[02:08] <cluelessperson> daftykins:  I can't even mount it to backup just the database on it. >.<
[02:08] <cluelessperson> it's a month's worth of data
[02:08] <daftykins> cluelessperson: does it have multiple partitions? "sudo parted -l | pastebinit"
[02:09] <cluelessperson> daftykins:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/10197107
[02:09] <daftykins> cluelessperson: ah single partition. so "sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sda1 /mnt" does that give errors?
[02:10] <cluelessperson> daftykins:   and...
[02:10] <daftykins> huh?
[02:10] <cluelessperson> daftykins: yes.
[02:10] <daftykins> what was the complaint?
[02:11] <cluelessperson> daftykins:    mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, missing codepage or helper program, or other erorr.
[02:11] <daftykins> cluelessperson: "dmesg | tail" suggest anything more detailed about what's wrong?
[02:13] <cluelessperson> daftykins: 0e 45 e9 48
[02:13] <cluelessperson> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10197141
[02:14] <emanuel_> Help, I edited fstab to make my system read only and now Ican't reverse it. I'm trying sudo mount -o rw,remount / and sudo is failiong
[02:14] <daftykins> cluelessperson: hmm that's not good. so, if this data is seriously important, you're going to want to take it to another system for data recovery now. you would ideally image it up to another drive, or try and mount it using a backup superblock
[02:15] <daftykins> emanuel_: is this from a live session?
[02:15] <emanuel_> daftykins: no from the os running on hard drive
[02:15] <cluelessperson> daftykins: backup superblock?
[02:15] <daftykins> emanuel_: why?
[02:15] <cluelessperson> daftykins:   I just need the mysql files
[02:15] <daftykins> cluelessperson: yeah, but these methods risk the data you've got on the drive, so it depends how badly you want it
[02:16] <emanuel_> daftykins: long situation let me type...
[02:16] <cluelessperson> daftykins:   My last backup was a month ago, let's ty
[02:16] <daftykins> cluelessperson: i found this - http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/recover-bad-superblock-from-corrupted-partition/
[02:16] <cluelessperson> daftykins: let's try then, I'm eager to see what you're capable of pulling
[02:17] <daftykins> cluelessperson: it's really about the disk and not me, so i'm not responsible from here on out :D
[02:17] <cluelessperson> daftykins: I fully understand.  Like I said, it's a month's worth of data, and two columns in mysql I'll have to readd
[02:18] <cluelessperson> daftykins: daftykins Actually, I have a bunch of random CSVs saved that may make up for it
[02:18] <daftykins> cluelessperson: ah ok so no biggy? good stuff :>
[02:18] <emanuel_> daftykins: I have a laptop with a bad screen. I am using it as a print server. Due to impropper shutdowns the systen hunbg on bootup because it needed a disk check. I asked here about making it read only and after some testing it seemed to work so edited fstab. I rebooted and now printing didn't work. I googled how to mouint it read only and it failed but dmesg shows it did remount. I now was able to edit fstab and am rebooting the s
[02:18] <cluelessperson> daftykins: yeah, have at it
[02:18] <emanuel_> daftykins: if /swap is not read only... I'm trying to girlfriend proof the system.
[02:18] <daftykins> cluelessperson: it's all in the above link then :)
[02:18] <cluelessperson> daftykins: You say it may risk the data, will mounting via another superblock overwrite the data, or just damage the corruption further?
[02:19] <cluelessperson> like if it's a bad head, it'll get worse real quick
[02:19] <PsychicVampire> Hey all
[02:19] <PsychicVampire> I was just at my psychiatrits office tonight.. and he had some awful virus
[02:19] <daftykins> cluelessperson: that's the risk you take ultimately yeah, even using the disk might just be damaging it further
[02:19] <PsychicVampire> on his win8.1 pc system.. it appears to be a network with only one server and he's got these host pcs
[02:19] <PsychicVampire> which do have physical hdds, but still rely on the server
[02:20] <PsychicVampire> anyway i cant recall the practice management software he uses exactly, i doubt it's natively released for linux
[02:20] <cluelessperson> daftykins:  I get the error  "Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock" right off
[02:20] <cluelessperson> first command
[02:20] <PsychicVampire> but should i try to convince him to use Ubuntu and either run a VM or use WINE
[02:20] <kxtwo> Hey guys, I just picked up an hp i3 laptop.  Wanted to throw ubuntu on there, just go with the most recent LTS as usual?
[02:20] <Jordan_U> PsychicVampire: Please gather all of the information relevant to your question and post it all as one message, on one line.
[02:20] <PsychicVampire> and if so, since the psychiatry managment software he uses relies on remote assistance for networking, can linux use that protocol or is it going to end up being a VM inside ubunut
[02:20] <PsychicVampire> well that's everything, sorry i use a lot of lines.
[02:21] <daftykins> emanuel_: what does "mount" report? file system / is read only?
[02:21] <PsychicVampire> kxtwo: Yes.
[02:21] <PsychicVampire> kxtwo: it's AMD 64 or Intel?
[02:21] <kxtwo> i3, intel
[02:21] <kxtwo> with windows 8
[02:21] <PsychicVampire> Ok, well the 64 bit build should work fine
[02:21] <PsychicVampire> You should be able to dual-boot if you want.. boot from a live cd?
[02:22] <kxtwo> def as it has 6GB ram
[02:22] <PsychicVampire> As long as your laptop came with an optical drive
[02:22] <daftykins> cluelessperson:  "sudo e2fsck -f /dev/sda1" ?
[02:22] <emanuel_> daftykins: it doesn't matter now I fixed it and am rebooting
[02:22] <PsychicVampire> Ok nice kxtwo, it'll work just fine.. use the 64 bit one of course.
[02:22] <kxtwo> I also picked up an external drive, I am hoping I can partition this with a live cd but not sure
[02:22] <kxtwo> might have to just grab a flash drive
[02:22] <PsychicVampire> kxtwo: some still prefer to use older versions of Ubuntu, but the repositories aren't supported anymore just so you know
[02:23] <cluelessperson> daftykins: command not found
[02:23] <daftykins> PsychicVampire: with my respect, the fact that you are here to confirm whether it's a wise idea to move someone from Windows to Linux shows that you're not the right person for the job.
[02:23] <PsychicVampire> Aye I'm jealous, my Toshiba C-55 has no optical drive and I have no USB stick so I've been using Win 8.1.. it's not terrible really, but a resoource hog, and I am paranoid about security.
[02:23] <emanuel_> Ugh why isn't sudo shutdown -r now rebooting the systen?
[02:23] <PsychicVampire> daftykins: No offence taken.
[02:23] <kxtwo> psychic is there any reason I couldn't partition my external 1tb drive with a live cd image?
[02:23] <PsychicVampire> psychic perhaps it was NTFS?
[02:24] <PsychicVampire> did you try using gparted?
[02:24] <kxtwo> no I haven't tried anything yet, since it is usb I am thinking I can use the live cd creator app
[02:24] <Jordan_U> PsychicVampire: Honestly that doesn't sound like a good fit for Ubuntu to me. The normal advantage of malware being less common for Linux doesn't really apply once you install wine, especially when I would guess that the way they got malware on the machine in the first place was by being duped into running a trojan, which can be just as easily done via wine.
[02:24] <daftykins> cluelessperson: hmm hang on
[02:25] <Jordan_U> PsychicVampire: And the primary purpose of the machine seems to be to run a piece of Windows only software.
[02:25] <PsychicVampire> Jordan_U: that's good to know, I didn't know WINE came with windows security risks as well, nevermind running a VM. is a VM actually more secure or less, or the same?
[02:25] <daftykins> cluelessperson: try this one - https://linuxexpresso.wordpress.com/2010/03/31/repair-a-broken-ext4-superblock-in-ubuntu/ but again, much risk
[02:25] <PsychicVampire> True Jordan_U, I really never liked setting up Linux systems just to get them to do what you want with Windows, with the same software ..
[02:25] <emanuel_> daftykins: how  can I force a reboot when shutdown -r now won't reboot it
[02:25] <stef1a> i just got a 2015 carbon x1 and am trying to install ubuntu. i'm on the UEFI page and UEFI/legacy boot - csm support says "UEFI only * Unselectable for Secure Boot". does this mean my computer does not have secureboot and so i don't need to disable it, or something else?
[02:26] <PsychicVampire> kxtwo:  try a gparted livecd if you can do a USB live that'd be fine too
[02:26] <daftykins> emanuel_: if the file system is read only, who cares? reset that sucker
[02:26] <cluelessperson> PsychicVampire:  what do you mean?
[02:26] <PsychicVampire> gparted is the boot-to program you wanna use for partitioning :)
[02:26] <OerHeks> sudo reboot
[02:26] <daftykins> stef1a: something else
[02:26] <cluelessperson> PsychicVampire:   I like that linux can handle some things much more smoothly than windows
[02:26] <emanuel_> daftykins: because I was able as I said before to get it mounted rw after my initial post
[02:26] <daftykins> stef1a: are you having trouble booting a flash drive?
[02:26] <PsychicVampire> daftykins: you can also create a partition within win 8.1, right click the start menu and go to disk manager
[02:26] <PsychicVampire> management*
[02:26] <stef1a> daftykins: i haven't tried yet. should i just try that first? (i've shrank my partition and disabled fastboot)
[02:26] <daftykins> PsychicVampire: i am not talking about that topic. bad highlight.
[02:27] <PsychicVampire> Oh sorry dafty
[02:27] <Jordan_U> PsychicVampire: Having a VM doesn't make anything inherently more secure. One nice advantage of a VM is that it's easier to take a snapshot and revert back to it after the user installs malware.
[02:27] <daftykins> stef1a: you want to dualboot 8 and ubuntu?
[02:27] <stef1a> daftykins: for the moment, although i'll ultimately end up removing 8 entirely if possible
[02:27] <PsychicVampire> Jordan_U: I suppose so long as I'm not his official IT guy, and just a patietn who helped him with windows - I'm not going to try to convince him to use Linux.. especially when he's paying for this Windows software.
[02:28] <PsychicVampire> I knwo there's psychiatry practice manamgent software for Linux, but to switch when he's late into his career would be pointless.. it's all integrated with his smartphone etc..
[02:28] <cluelessperson> daftykins:  Attempting now.    but error  Error reading block ####number ### (Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read) Ignore error?
[02:28] <daftykins> stef1a: you'll probably have a harder time establishing a dualboot, than clean installing - but yeah a nice 14.04.1 64-bit flash drive made up should boot fine, after having already made space for the installation via a Windows resize from within Windows
[02:28] <cluelessperson> Yes?
[02:28] <cluelessperson> daftykins: force rewrite? lol
[02:28] <daftykins> cluelessperson: sounds like it's game over then to me
[02:28] <PsychicVampire> is it 8 or 8.1, daftykins?
[02:28] <daftykins> PsychicVampire: please either learn how to use tab complete, or stop :)
[02:28] <PsychicVampire> erm, I thought I just did.
[02:28] <cluelessperson> daftykins: Well, I continued and I'm getting a list of "FIXED" "FIXED" etc 10 times
[02:29] <cluelessperson> daftykins: you quit too soon my friend. :P
[02:29] <kxtwo> crap I didn't realize 14.04 is still the most recent lts I thought something newer would have come out by now.  uess it hasn't been a year and a half yet.  I didn't care so much for 14.04 on my dell
[02:29] <daftykins> cluelessperson: maybe, but doing this via someone else is as fun as pulling my own hair out - so just follow the link and see how you get on.
[02:29] <PsychicVampire> daftykins: using tab-complete to put your nick at the end of a question is using it wrong?
[02:29] <PsychicVampire> :|
[02:29] <PsychicVampire> I thought it was 14.11...
[02:29] <daftykins> PsychicVampire: asking me about what OS the person i'm helping is running, is the mistake :)
[02:30] <daftykins> PsychicVampire: i appreciate you trying, but if you can't follow there's probably no reason to try and offer help in here
[02:30] <cluelessperson> daftykins: MOUNTED, HA
[02:30] <PsychicVampire> daftykins: my apologies: i thought you were the one needing help.. sorry
[02:30] <PsychicVampire> i see you're helping clueless
[02:30] <cluelessperson> daftykins:  TAKE THAT
[02:30] <cluelessperson> now where are those MYSQL files, ASAP
[02:31] <stef1a> daftykins: seems to be working okay so far...
[02:31] <daftykins> cluelessperson: since i've been helping you this entire time and you're now trying to throw it back in my face like i've done something wrong, i suggest you check your attitude.
[02:31] <PsychicVampire> You are all very polite, I apologize for over-stepping.
[02:31] <cluelessperson> daftykins: NO, I did something, you saved me!
[02:31] <cluelessperson> daftykins: I'm just giving you a hard time. :D
[02:32] <daftykins> cluelessperson: i will ignore you if you carry on acting like an ungrateful.
[02:32] <lasagn4> hi
[02:32] <PsychicVampire> My mistake 14.10 appears to be the latest stable version
[02:32] <emanuel_> daftykins: I did manually reboot the system by turning the power off waiting to see if it comes back
[02:32] <daftykins> latest stable non-LTS (long term support) version, yes
[02:32] <lasagn4> with linux you can replace and install a bin over another program evecn though that other program is running? how is that possible
[02:32] <PsychicVampire> But just so everyone knows in Win 8.1 you can partition drives by going to disk managment, right click the start button
[02:33] <jamie_> is there a place or way other than flash drive to transfer data between two hard drives, i just need 7 gb
[02:33] <PsychicVampire> lasagn4: it doesn't work with permissions the way windows does
[02:33] <daftykins> PsychicVampire: i'm a Windows admin too, Windows talk is off topic here. thanks but no thanks :)
[02:33] <cluelessperson> darkbasic: .... I cant believe I just typoed that.   "NO, I did something wrong, and you saved me!" xD
[02:33] <kxtwo> 14.10 isn't lts and supposedly doesn't have much ot offer so was just going to stick with 14.04 and hope the problems I had were hardware not software
[02:33] <PsychicVampire> Oh daftykins, it is? Ok.
[02:33] <cluelessperson> daftykins:  ^  seriously, thank you
[02:33] <PsychicVampire> I would advocate gparted over that, though.. ok
[02:33] <cluelessperson> daftykins:  I'm totally giving you a hard time.  You've saved me a lot of work. :D
[02:33] <lasagn4> PsychicVampire, but replacing it doesn't close the running program, it stays running
[02:33] <OerHeks> jamie_, dropbox, google drive .. dl-dvd
[02:33] <daftykins> cluelessperson: yeah, stop that thanks
[02:34] <lasagn4> PsychicVampire, is the running program now the old version or the new version?
[02:34] <PsychicVampire> lasagn4: through your RAM perhaps.. try restarting the program
[02:34] <cluelessperson> daftykins: I'm confused.
[02:34] <cluelessperson> so serious
[02:34] <cluelessperson> daftykins:   Seriously though.  You've run into this before?
[02:34] <daftykins> many times.
[02:34] <PsychicVampire> daftykins: sorry I somehow got you confused with kxtwo :|
[02:34] <daftykins> i'm like the dead disk sniffer, in here
[02:34] <PsychicVampire> i have learning disabilities
[02:35] <OerHeks> !cookie | daftykins
[02:35] <PsychicVampire> lol.
[02:35] <jamie_> OerHeks: they only let 1-2 gb of data
[02:35] <PsychicVampire> that he is
[02:35] <daftykins> OerHeks: 8D
[02:36] <OerHeks> jamie_, google drive then .. or if you are handy, remove the hdd from the other machine, and hang it in your current
[02:36] <daftykins> cluelessperson: i've probably seen 20-30 failed disks in here since September
[02:36] <jamie_> OerHeks: sadly i already had that idea... but my ram is only 4gb
[02:37] <PsychicVampire> lasagn4: I really do not know. If it has not change, I'd assume the old version.. I'm sure others know.
[02:37] <kxtwo> PsychicVampire, what is the best  utility to  create live cds these days?  I had a windows program called  linux cd creator or something like  that before
[02:37] <PsychicVampire> magiciso works just fine
[02:37] <Sunson> hi all
[02:37] <jamie_> OerHeks: i was gonna hand it in the ram and then swap hdd but i dont have enough ram
[02:37] <Sunson> anyone familar with virtualbox?
[02:38] <daftykins> PsychicVampire: honestly talking about Windows software in an Ubuntu support channel is not going to help anyone out ;)
[02:38] <OerHeks> jamie_, ehh don't swap hdd on a running machine
[02:38] <PsychicVampire> Well, kxtwowanted to know
[02:38] <PsychicVampire> It's for the purpose of migrating to Linux, so isn't hat for the betterment of civilization?
[02:38] <emanuel_> daftykins: Will you help me fix the problem I made. I rebooted the system and now I can't print / seems read only still
[02:38] <kxtwo> PsychicVampire, off the top of your head do you know if it will allow me to create a section out of my external usb drive and make it persistent?  if so I can use this not only to installbut also to carry with me needed
[02:38] <jamie_> OerHeks: i was gonna do a live boot pull up the home dir then hang it in ram then pull hdd and push to new hdd
[02:38] <Sunson> anyone know about installing Mac os on Ubuntu host virtualbox?
[02:39] <PsychicVampire> kxtwo: is your external USB drive solid state per chance?
[02:39] <daftykins> emanuel_: sorry, printing isn't my strong suit. just address the channel with what you're after
[02:39] <PsychicVampire> Mac OS X in a VM is a *beyotch*
[02:39] <kxtwo> PsychicVampire, no
[02:39] <PsychicVampire> Ok
[02:39] <kxtwo> does that matter?
[02:39] <daftykins> kxtwo: that's a really bad idea.
[02:39] <PsychicVampire> kxtwo: are you asking if gparted will do that?
[02:39] <emanuel_> daftykins: Understood. I think my issue is the drive is still Read Only and I need it writable to store the data to print
[02:39] <Sunson> ok...thought it was just me...you think it would be easier if i had a cd/dvd vs .iso/.dmg?
[02:39] <PsychicVampire> not sure what you're trying to burn here kxtwo
[02:40] <kxtwo> why is it a bad idea?  it's usb 3
[02:40] <kxtwo> I can grab a traditional flash drive if  necessary
[02:40] <emanuel_> My file system is now read only how do I get it back to read write?
[02:40] <OerHeks> kxtwo, gparted can handle up to 2 Tb.
[02:40] <PsychicVampire> notice kxtwo kxtwo believe i've used this app to burn in windows 8 too and it's fine http://download.cnet.com/Active-ISO-Burner/3000-2646_4-10602452.html
[02:41] <daftykins> kxtwo: what are you trying to achieve? just make a flash drive bootable if you need a live session
[02:41] <jamie_> OerHeks: i thought it might work... but i I think i really just need to get some money for new equiptment....
[02:41] <daftykins> putting an ISO onto a flash drive is *NOT* burning.
[02:41] <kxtwo> PsychicVampire, I have to units now so dont "need" to use windows
[02:41] <PsychicVampire> kxtwo: are you trying to get your BIOS to boot an ISO?
[02:41] <OerHeks> jamie_, turn both machines off, and then move the hdd.
[02:41] <PsychicVampire> from an external USB drive?
[02:42] <kxtwo> ok this is becoming gmore complicated  than I thought
[02:42] <PsychicVampire> the BIOS looks for the master boot record on any partition and it won't see it there if it's just an ISO
[02:42] <kxtwo> I will simply grab a flash drive
[02:42] <PsychicVampire> yeah you're better off just using the flash drive or CD/DVD :)
[02:42]  * daftykins chuckles
[02:42] <PsychicVampire> i envy you, my toshiba has no optical drive.. and it's new.
[02:42] <PsychicVampire> guy at staples tells my mother they're 'obsolete now'
[02:42] <fry__> I'm trying to install ubuntu on my asus t100. I managed to get it to boot to grub but every time I try to select any option, install, try live, etc.
[02:42] <kxtwo> I was going to partition a sedtion out of my external, make it bootable, extract iso, same as flash drive, It might be a little slower as a live cd but I figured for install it would be fine
[02:42] <daftykins> damn right they are, it's 2015.
[02:43] <fry__> grub flashes to a black screen, then back to grub and then freezes
[02:43] <fry__> can anyone help me figure out what is going on?
[02:43] <daftykins> !nomodeset | fry__
[02:43] <PsychicVampire> fry__: please condense your question into as few lines as possible.
[02:43] <jamie_> OerHeks: this was more of a hope then having to re github it and take about 1 hr to get all the code... its on one machine and i swap hdd constantly depending on what im doing due to only having a 70gb hdd and a 250 gb hdd
[02:43] <fry__> PsychicVampire: How can I get ubuntu to boot from grub? Currently it doesn't work
[02:44] <PsychicVampire> fry__: it is not an option in grub?
[02:44] <PsychicVampire> fry__: I believe it matters whether you install grub before or after putting linux on the partition/drive you're using. Someone else will know more, though.
[02:44] <OerHeks> !nomodeset | fry__
[02:44] <fry__> PsychicVampire: it is. grub flashes to a black screen, then back to grub. then the screen freezes
[02:45] <PsychicVampire> OerHeks has your answer, fry__
[02:45] <cricketfart> Hey everyone
[02:45] <jamie_> OerHeks: thanks anyway though... I was hoping to be able to some how transfer some weird way... darn
[02:46] <PsychicVampire> I think I'll get my knowledge a little past the old days of Red Hat 6 and Mandrake before offering any more help..
[02:46] <cricketfart> I just installed Bumblebee, but in my additional drivers, I don't see any reference to Bumblebee in the list of the drivers that are selectable.  I've restarted the machine after installing bumblebee and I had to run apt-get -f install to install missing dependencies and still nothing.  Does this mean that something is wrong with the installation?
[02:46] <emanuel_> PsychicVampire: can you tell me how to remount my file system as read writer?
[02:46] <PsychicVampire> That about GRUB in the past was true, though, that the order of installation matters OS -> bootloader /vice versa
[02:46] <PsychicVampire> emanuel_: sorry no :(
[02:47] <cluelessperson> daftykins: I managed to get the files on usb
[02:47] <daftykins> cricketfart: bumblebee itself isn't a driver, it's a way to let the nvidia driver work with the intel driver. it's also the old one, nvidia-prime is what should be in use
[02:47] <emanuel_> When I do mount I get back mount: warning: /etc/mtab is not writable (e.g. read-only filesystem).        It's possible that information reported by mount(8) is not        up to date. For actual information about system mount points        check the /proc/mounts file.
[02:47] <daftykins> cluelessperson: nice
[02:47] <cricketfart> so daftykins, do I then just sudo apt-get install nvidia-prime  ?
[02:47] <cricketfart> and if so, should I sudo apt-get remove bumblebee ?
[02:47] <daftykins> cricketfart: not since you've tried bumblebee no, they're incompatible
[02:48] <daftykins> cricketfart: was this the flashing cursor problem? how far did you get with that?
[02:48] <PsychicVampire> is it Nvidia or ATI who release native linux drivers?
[02:48] <cricketfart> about this far haha, I couldn't remember who was helping me lol
[02:48] <cricketfart> PsychicVampire I'm pretty sure it was Nvidia
[02:48] <PsychicVampire> Yeah, thought maybe
[02:48] <cricketfart> I had Nvidia propietary options out of the box with my Ubuntu 14.04
[02:49] <cricketfart> "out of the box" *
[02:49] <daftykins> PsychicVampire: both of them do... wow.
[02:49] <cricketfart> Linux is taking over the world =D
[02:49] <PsychicVampire> Oh now they both do, nice
[02:49] <cricketfart> Lol
[02:49] <daftykins> cricketfart: i figured i left you installing an nvidia driver from the 'additional drivers' last night
[02:49] <daftykins> PsychicVampire: no you didn't, you just asked.
[02:49] <PsychicVampire> Yeah there are official ones in 'additional drivers'
[02:50] <PsychicVampire> That's right I wasn't sure, but figured that was the case from poor memory
[02:50] <emanuel_> I need to remount uuid/7925a9cd-f8cc-492b-83cc-5a5a82dda879 as RW would someone explain to me how to do this
[02:50] <daftykins> some of my pet peeves are someone who ask something, then claim to have known all along.
[02:51] <cricketfart> daftykins: I think that's correct, but someone mentioned bumblebee and nvidia-prime, I was just acting to the best of my memory on what to do.  Sorry for the misunderstanding.
[02:51] <daftykins> cricketfart: yeah i was talking about them both at the same time, i said how bumblebee was the old way of doing things and nvidia-prime the new
[02:51] <cricketfart> When I say they mentioned the two, I'm not meaning in conjunction.
[02:51] <cricketfart> Ah, so is it possible to sudo apt-get remove bumblebee and then install nvidia-prime instead?
[02:52] <daftykins> cricketfart: find a guide for one or the other, then just follow it to completion - might as well see if it works better one way or the other if you're already partway down one rabbit hole
[02:53] <emanuel_> I tried sudo mount -o remount,rw / but then after entering my password I get sudo: unable to open /var/lib/sudo/emanuel/2: No such file or directory
[02:53] <cricketfart> I actually did finish the installation of Bumblebee...
[02:53] <cricketfart> Like I said, I wasn't sure if I should see a bumblebee reference in my drivers list.
[02:53] <stef1a> daftykins: *thumbs up* it works!
[02:54] <daftykins> stef1a: that the live session or the install?
[02:54] <stef1a> install
[02:54] <daftykins> cricketfart: nope, just try running 'nvidia-settings'
[02:54] <stef1a> no problems at all
[02:54] <stef1a> took less than 10 min
[02:54] <daftykins> stef1a: excellent :)
[02:54] <stef1a> huh, my wifi is a bit wonky though
[02:55] <cricketfart> nvidia-settings opens just fine.  Anything in specific I'm looking for?
[02:55] <emanuel_> daftykins: i do apoligize for not accepting your help when I thought I had my issue resolved. I was wrong my partions are still read only
[02:55] <cricketfart> This came up actually:** (nvidia-settings:3830): WARNING **: PRIME: Failed to execute child process "/usr/bin/prime-supported" (No such file or directory)
[02:55] <cricketfart> ** Message: PRIME: is it supported? no
[02:55] <daftykins> cricketfart: see whether each page looks ok and whether it refers to anything optimus related, has the flashing cursor thing gone away too?
[02:56] <daftykins> cricketfart: that'll probably be from using bumblebee instead
[02:56] <daftykins> emanuel_: i take it you can only access this machine over SSH?
[02:56] <cricketfart> It hasn't gone away, but it has "improved" in a way...  Its still flashing, but it doesn't fully disappear when I click on different programs in the launcher
[02:57] <emanuel_> daftykins: technically I can access it locally but the screen is cracked and I can only view a small portion of it so I am using SSH and before I messed up remote desktops
[02:57] <daftykins> cricketfart: hang on let me fetch a link
[02:57] <daftykins> !nvidia
[02:58] <Jordan_U> emanuel_: Why not just edit your /etc/fstab from a LiveDVD/USB?
[02:58] <cricketfart> On a slightly off-topic note, how do you get your writing to appear in red when you speak to me?
[02:59] <cricketfart> And thanks, I'm reading these pages.
[02:59] <bazhang> cricketfart, tab complete a nick
[02:59] <daftykins> cricketfart: not sure if this'll be handy for you, but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics
[02:59] <Jordan_U> cricketfart: By including your nick at the beginning of our messages.
[02:59] <bazhang> anywhere in the posting will do it
[02:59] <emanuel_> Jordan_U: because it's a pain to use a live image on it because only the top right quarter of the screen is readable. I'd prefer to fix it over SSH if I can posttibly do it
[02:59] <bazhang> provided the client has that feature
[03:00] <bazhang> cricketfart, you see it as red, for your nick, we dont
[03:00] <cricketfart> Okay, gotcha thanks
[03:00] <cricketfart> Or apparently I don't...  Wtf did I just do?
[03:00] <bryn> quit
[03:00] <bazhang> cricketfart, cri <tab> adds your nick to my post
[03:01] <cricketfart> Ohhhh I get it haha.  Thanks lol omg
[03:01] <bazhang> cricketfart, so baz <tab> does the same for me
[03:02] <Jordan_U> emanuel_: If you can't get sudo working then I can't see any way to fix this without rebooting into something else, or with other kernel parameters.
[03:02] <LMNOP_> why would anyone want to talke to u
[03:02] <cricketfart> daftykins, The hybridgraphics link was more useful than the one from ubottu
[03:03] <daftykins> cricketfart: yeah i used that for me to find the hybrid one
[03:03] <daftykins> i bet it was...
[03:03] <daftykins> !hybrid
[03:03] <daftykins> nope.
[03:03] <cricketfart> I really appreciate the help by the way.  Have you got a "donate" link?
[03:04] <elky> LMNOP_: please don't be hostile to people here.
[03:04] <stef1a> hm, yeah, i have a problem. it looks like have 802.11 wifi with the iwlwifi driver. even though it looks like i'm connected, i can't actually send or receive any packets... help?
[03:04] <daftykins> cricketfart: nah we volunteer for free, however if you feel rich - feel free to donate to http://www.kodi.tv/ for me ;D
[03:04] <cricketfart> Hah, it's not that I feel rich per se..  I just work in the IT industry, but on Windows Machines.  I always appreciate someone at the very least even offering a donation.
[03:05] <daftykins> cricketfart: :) well thanks for the thought
[03:05] <cricketfart> daftykins, Not a problem, I'm just trying to find the donate spot on the website, it doesn't appear to be obvious?
[03:06] <cricketfart> Pfft
[03:06] <cricketfart> UNSAY, UNSAY
[03:06] <LMNOP_> elky, sure thing champ
[03:06] <cricketfart> LOL
[03:06] <daftykins> cricketfart: :D top line ja? :)
[03:07] <LMNOP_> elky, anything else?
[03:07] <cricketfart> daftykins, I found it, hence the unsay hahahaha
[03:07] <daftykins> cricketfart: cool :)
[03:07] <daftykins> LMNOP_: drop it please
[03:07] <elky> LMNOP_: do you have an actual support question?
[03:08] <emanuel_> Jordan_U: and daftykins I dont'w know what i did but I was able to remount as RW and got SUDO working. I reset my fstab back to how it was and I can print again. I appreciate the assistance you both offered
[03:09] <cricketfart> daftykins, I made a $10 donation to that site.  Its through as anonymous though, I'm not a forum member.
[03:09] <daftykins> cricketfart: that's great, much appreciated thanks :)
[03:09] <cricketfart> daftykins, no problem my friend!
[03:09] <LMNOP_> elky, i do not but if you would like assistance feel free to ask your question
[03:10] <elky> LMNOP_: I'm aware you're trying to drag drama across channels, please stop baiting here.
[03:10] <cricketfart> rebooting, brb
[03:11] <LMNOP_> elky, i wasnt aware that you were aware or that you thought that
[03:11] <emanuel_> Everyone back to my original "problem" My girlfriend believes in just killing the power to the room when she is done (by throwing a light swich) my ubuntu laptop does not shutdown properly in this case and sometimes corrupts the file system. When this happens we can't print until she mentions a problem and I tell the system to check the file system. Other than changing her habits how can i make the laptop more apt to survive a power 
[03:12] <elky> LMNOP_: well now that you're aware that I'm aware, you should stop it. final warning.
[03:12] <daftykins> emanuel_: reinstall, work out where print jobs are stored (/tmp maybe?) then mounting only that folder as a separate read/write partition and the rest of the system read/write
[03:13] <Jordan_U> emanuel_: Does your laptop's battery not work? (At least well enough for it to complete a normal shutdown)
[03:14] <cricketfart> daftykins, So now that I installed nvidia-prime, this comes up when I run nvidia-settings:
[03:14] <cricketfart> ** Message: PRIME: No offloading required. Abort
[03:14] <cricketfart> ** Message: PRIME: is it supported? no
[03:14] <Bashing-om> emanuel_: Loss of power can always be a problem, and loosing power is a problem, . Address loosing power by a UPS unit . more bucks the better.
[03:14] <daftykins> cricketfart: was that after purging bumblebee packages?
[03:15] <cricketfart> When you say purge...  You mean sudo apt-get remove  right?
[03:15] <emanuel_> daftykins: Thank you for that advise. I would prefer not to have to reinstall everything because of the screen issue, Jordan_U the battery does work but there is no way for the windows system she uses to tell the ubuntu syustem  to power off
[03:15] <daftykins> cricketfart: if you have pastebinit installed, can you show "dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit" ?
[03:15] <daftykins> cricketfart: also same command but replace 'nvidia' for 'bumble'
[03:15] <cricketfart> I don't have pastebinit installed, and I didn't use dpkg..  I actually just used sudo apt-get remove ...
[03:16] <daftykins> cricketfart: nah i'm asking you to run the dpkg command - "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then first
[03:16] <cricketfart> I actually haven't really used dpkg much except when following guides, I know nothing about it.  I'm just getting my head around apt-get
[03:16] <stef1a> also, i installed ubuntu 14.10. help?
[03:16] <cricketfart> Kk I'll do that
[03:16] <Jordan_U> emanuel_: Why does the Windows system need to tell the Ubuntu laptop anything? Just configure the Ubuntu laptop to turn off when it detects that it's running on battery power (which it should actually be doing by default, at least once the battery charge gets low enough).
[03:16] <daftykins> stef1a: boot the flash drive again and compare the loaded modules from that to your install, with "lsmod" - maybe the driver is different between (installing whilst allowing it to update online can result in an installation that has a different config to the live session)
[03:17] <emanuel_> Jordan_U: Your suggestion makes sense but I'm not sure how to do that. Can you suggest a guide?
[03:17] <cricketfart> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10197865/
[03:18] <stef1a> daftykins: i didn't allow it to install while online, though
[03:18] <daftykins> stef1a: oh
[03:18] <daftykins> stef1a: still worth comparing
[03:18] <daftykins> cricketfart: sudo apt-get purge nvidia-304
[03:18] <cricketfart> Haha I get it..  Theres bumblebee and nvidia-prime stuff in that list from dpkg
[03:18] <stef1a> it's not a liveusb though
[03:18] <daftykins> cricketfart: so the 304 driver doesn't work with prime so has to be purged
[03:19] <cricketfart> daftykins, Okay, done
[03:19] <cricketfart> Well, processing..
[03:19] <daftykins> stef1a: oh so you didn't see working wifi from the 'try' live session to start with?
[03:19] <daftykins> cricketfart: clean reboot after that
[03:19] <cricketfart> Pastebin after reboot?
[03:20] <stef1a> i didn't even go through the try session
[03:20] <stef1a> i didn't try to connect
[03:21] <Jordan_U> emanuel_: I'm currently using XFCE and don't have a GNOME box on hand to check with, but with XFCE their is an option to change what action to perform when battery is critical (with "shutdown" being the default) and another option to set at what percentage the battery level should be considered "critical".
[03:21] <emanuel_> Jordan_U: thank you let me see what window manager I'm using over remote desktopo
[03:22] <cricketfart> daftykins, back now.  Heres the pastebin after reboot http://paste.ubuntu.com/10197917/
[03:23] <daftykins> cricketfart: go back to whatever was confirming your prime status
[03:24] <cricketfart> I'm sorry I don't know what you mean by that?
[03:25] <daftykins> sec
[03:26] <daftykins> cricketfart: oh it's the errors when you run nvidia-settings
[03:26] <daftykins> see if they remain
[03:26] <cricketfart> Gotcha
[03:26] <cricketfart> cricketfart@cricketfart-Lenovo-IdeaPad-P580:~$ nvidia-settings
[03:26] <cricketfart> ** Message: PRIME: No offloading required. Abort
[03:26] <cricketfart> ** Message: PRIME: is it supported? no
[03:26] <cricketfart> That's what comes up
[03:27] <emanuel_> Jordan_U: I don't know the window manager I'm using but I don't see any options to control the power on any menus
[03:28] <cricketfart> daftykins, when you grep and you put | pastebinit  does that mean that you're piping the command grep to pastebinit?
[03:29] <Jordan_U> emanuel_: Does running "gnome-control-center" bring up a settings windows with a power management option?
[03:29] <daftykins> cricketfart: yep, result gets passed over
[03:30] <kxtwo> Should I "install third part software" when installing ubuntu?
[03:30] <emanuel_> Jordan_U: negative says no file or directory
[03:30] <intelikey> kxtwo depends on whom the third party is.
[03:31] <cricketfart> Hah!  I really like Linux, I wish it was an easy task to get more people onto it.  It's intimidating/daunting at first, and there really is a LOT to learn, but it makes so much sense when you start understanding it
[03:31] <kxtwo> fluendo mp3 plugin
[03:31] <kxtwo> cricket far more people are into it now than just a few years ago, the movement is strong.
[03:32] <intelikey> !mp3
[03:32] <cricketfart> kxtwo, Yeah I know, I work in the IT industry as a Windows Network Admin..  I'm encountering Linux OSes more and more in the workplace which is really cool.
[03:33] <kxtwo> intelikey, I am taking I SHOULDN"T install it then
[03:34] <kxtwo> from a naive perspective that link didn't answer my question
[03:34] <Jordan_U> emanuel_: Please post a screenshot of your Desktop Environment.
[03:34] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | emanuel_
[03:34] <intelikey> kxtwo linux is cool <<< what is the flavour of the month ?    it was ubuntu seven years ago.   but i have been busy  and not on the net much for a while.
[03:34] <cricketfart> daftykins, I'm not sure if you seen it, but I am getting the same errors: "Is prime supported? No"
[03:34] <redemptionsong> I have 8 G of RAM on this new lappy, on ly a few apps open now (definitely should not be a problem at all) and I can hardly type text into this field bc bogged down. free -m shows 321 mb free only. It's as if the memory is not being freed? I don't want to restart bc I have work open. What do I do ?
[03:34] <intelikey> kxtwo that link was inteneded to point out that you don't need too    not that you shouldn't
[03:35] <redemptionsong> I just held the backspace key down and counted to thee before the cursor moved to delet the chars
[03:35] <redemptionsong> three
[03:35] <daftykins> cricketfart: hmm, can you refresh my memory with a "lspci | pastebinit" ?
[03:36] <OerHeks> redemptionsong, does 'top' show processes with high cpu or zombies ?
[03:36] <cricketfart> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10198036/
[03:36] <intelikey> redemptionsong "top"  would / might show what is eating cpu time....    but it could be an  io  issue.
[03:37] <redemptionsong> OerHeks: I can try past results (does top keep running or I have to stop it to paste?). It may take me a min. I don't know what I'm looking at.
[03:37] <cricketfart> daftykins, was that command broken down saying ls = list, pci = pci devices?
[03:37] <Jordan_U> !ram | redemptionsong
[03:37] <daftykins> cricketfart: yep
[03:37] <kxtwo> holy crap my partition table looks screwy
[03:37] <cricketfart> =D
[03:37] <kxtwo> sooo many partitions!
[03:37] <cricketfart> kxtwo, LOL
[03:37] <redemptionsong> OerHeks: Yeah, it's moving/dynamic
[03:37] <OerHeks> redemptionsong, after'Q' quit the data will stay in terminal.
[03:38] <emanuel_> Jordan_U: http://imgur.com/hrZOSAj  please remember this is using a remote desktop app and logged in as a normal user
[03:38] <intelikey> kxtwo  hehhe i don't use partitions anymore...  totally partitionless disks
[03:38] <kxtwo> this has an efi type bios
[03:38] <kxtwo> no clue how this is going to work
[03:38] <redemptionsong> Jordan_U: Yeah but the behavior tells it all ( I can't even type text hardly)
[03:38] <daftykins> cricketfart: hrmm ok well you definitely have an optimus setup to my mind, as in that output i see the intel adapter and the nvidia - i can't say i've seen nvidia-settings output directly on an optimus setup so i can't confirm if that's normal. just see how you get on with the flashing cursor and graphics support i guess?
[03:39] <emanuel_> Jordan_U: I did an sudo apt-get install gnome-control-center and it seems to have installed it now.
[03:40] <redemptionsong> ahh
[03:40] <cricketfart> daftykins, Okay, it's the only complaint I have tbh.  If that's all that I have to deal with on Ubuntu, I'm still going to use it.
[03:40] <daftykins> :>
[03:41] <Jordan_U> emanuel_: I'm not sure that settings configured in gnome-control-center will have any effect if you're not using a gnome session.
[03:42] <emanuel_> Jordan_U: it could be the local desktop is using gnome. i remember I had to install a second window manager to get remote desktop to work
[03:43] <Jordan_U> emanuel_: If it were using GNOME then it would have had gnome-control-center installed.
[03:43] <cricketfart> daftykins, If I may, I have one other question.  If this will take us on another long trial and you'd rather not spend the time on it, then by all means let me know and I'll continue exploring other avenues..  But, I can't use ALT and CTRL in fullscreen applications, they think I'm using ALT to bring up the dash and CTRL does nothing.
[03:43] <cricketfart> Not just fullscreen actually, anything in WINE that requires the use of ALT or CTRL
[03:43] <redemptionsong> OerHeks: this what I have : http://pastebin.com/cz5WRkwZ
[03:44] <emanuel_> Jordan_U: then I fear I am without a solution,. She turns everything off at the outlets because she has fear of a fire. The batter in the laptop runs down then it crashes
[03:45] <daftykins> cricketfart: that one is beyond me i'm afraid, i don't actually use desktop at all. if you address the channel someone who knows should reply :)
[03:45] <OerHeks> redemptionsong, that 'plugin-containe" takes 72% cpu
[03:45] <redemptionsong> OerHeks: I wonder what it's connected to - clementine maybe?
[03:45] <cricketfart> daftykins, No problem, but thanks for the help before.  Btw, I just got the flashing to stop completely.
[03:46] <daftykins> cricketfart: ooh neat, what was it down to?
[03:46] <protolinux> hi
[03:46] <OerHeks> redemptionsong, no, firefox i think
[03:46] <protolinux> farts
[03:46] <cricketfart> daftykins, After going through the steps to get Nvidia-prime or Bumblebee or w/e is working correctly atm on here, I noticed that "Unknown display" was enabled in the display.  I just deactivated it again and the flashing stopped altogether
[03:47] <cricketfart> =D
[03:47] <protolinux> fartsssssssssssssss
[03:47] <daftykins> cricketfart: aww yis \o/
[03:47] <protolinux> i have 3 os
[03:47] <krushia> what buttons do i smash to stop ubuntu from loading x11 on boot?
[03:47] <cricketfart> daftykins: chyeaaah
[03:47] <cricketfart> \m/
[03:47] <daftykins> protolinux: form a support question on a *single* line please
[03:47] <protolinux> WHY NO PEOPLE LISIN?
[03:47] <protolinux> ok
[03:48] <redemptionsong> OerHeks: no kidding. I had like 5 firefox windows open a for like a day (well built up to 5 by then) and I killed em all but this chat window and one other firefox window. Behavior did not change as I expected it would.
[03:48] <Jordan_U> emanuel_: Do you mind having it shut down the second power is lost? That should be pretty easy to reliably configure with a pm hook.
[03:49] <emanuel_> Jordan_U I'd prefer it waiting 60 seconds incase she turns the power off while I'm using a laptop in another room but I can deal with turning it back on in that situation
[03:50] <cricketfart> Does anyone know why I can't use ALT and CTRL in WINE applications?  Most of them think I'm using ALT to bring up the dash and CTRL does nothing at all.
[03:51] <Jordan_U> emanuel_: Ok, that should be doable. I'll just have to think a little bit more about what happens if the hook gets run a second time while the first time through is still waiting to shutdown.
[03:51] <redemptionsong> well a restart it is I guess. gonna lose my work I got open but whatever
[03:51] <emanuel_> Jordan_U: I do appreciate this help
[03:52] <charlesay> on my ubuntu installation I am unable to get my gnome session to run
[03:52] <cricketfart> redemptionsong, can't you just save the open work?
[03:52] <charlesay> after first gdm failed to start I replaced it with lightdm, which does present a login prompt but fails to start a session
[03:52] <charlesay> I'll post my session log in a moment...
[03:52] <charlesay> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10196761/
[03:52] <redemptionsong> I use this computer with 5 or6 firefox windows open all the time as well as clementine, maybe opera if I'm making phone callse, and one or two other application. With all that free -m rarely repors more than half the ram being use. Now, atm, I have much less open. makes no sense at all
[03:52] <bongma> im not using samba but i still keep getting updates for it., how could that be??
[03:52] <kxtwo> holy crap a few things have changed I had no idea what I was doing lol
[03:52] <kxtwo> I hope ubuntu can handle this efi bs
[03:53] <kxtwo> it let me create two new partitions which I was  surprised about I must say
[03:53] <OerHeks> redemptionsong, pkkill firefox (should do the trick) or killall firefox
[03:53] <redemptionsong> And now, suddenly, everything is flowing fine again - hmm...
[03:53] <cricketfart> redemptionsong, you can add session manager to firefox and save the open sessions if that's the problem?
[03:53] <daftykins> bongma: packages must be installed. "dpkg -l | grep samba"
[03:54] <kastan> why is it telling me permission denied when i do /etc/apt/sources.list or
[03:54] <krusz> hey guys! could anybody help me with managing more than 4 partitions in linux? im newbie with that system but last time i happened to mount one more partition in "/home/partition_name/". if you can help me please whisper me. thanks
[03:55] <EriC^^> kastan: you can't execute it
[03:55] <redemptionsong> cricketfart: right on
[03:55] <redemptionsong> :)
[03:55] <cricketfart> redemptionsong, Right on to what?
[03:55] <OerHeks> redemptionsong, great, have fun
[03:55] <kastan> EriC^^: yes but i would like to execute it
[03:55] <cricketfart> redemptionsong, session manager?
[03:55] <EriC^^> kastan: what do you mean by execute it? edit it?
[03:56] <redemptionsong> cricketfart: to -->  "redemptionsong, you can add session manager to firefox and save the open sessions if that's the problem?"
[03:56] <cricketfart> =D
[03:56] <kastan> im trying to ad a new entry
[03:56] <EriC^^> kastan: type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:56] <cricketfart> Is it possible to SSH into a liveboot of Ubuntu 14.04?
[03:56] <bongma> daftykins: what do these commands do?
[03:56] <krushia> what buttons do i smash to stop ubuntu from loading x11 on boot?
[03:56] <EriC^^> cricketfart: if openssh-server is installed, sure
[03:57] <redemptionsong> peace out I'mna restart (I know with like 99% certainty thatthis is not normal)
[03:57] <xangua> !nox | krushia
[03:57] <EriC^^> krushia: add "text" to the default kernel line in /etc/default/grub and update-grub
[03:57] <krushia> ty
[03:58] <EriC^^> if you want a permanent thing
[03:58] <RonWhoCares> I am trying to install Brother MFC-J435W.  Brother has the options "Linux (rpm)" and "Linux (deb)"   What should I used
[03:59] <daftykins> bongma: "dpkg -l" list the packages installed - |, pipe the output to... "grep" search the following text, "samba" for the word samba.
[03:59] <kastan> EriC^^: thank you
[03:59] <charlesay> RonWhoCares: ubuntu uses deb(ian packages), the other is for red hat bases
[03:59] <EriC^^> kastan: no problem
[04:00] <emanuel_> Jordan_U: will you be on tomorrow? My girlfriend is asking me to come to bed.
[04:00] <RonWhoCares> charlesay: Whatdo I select  http://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadlist.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=mfcj435w_us&os=128
[04:01] <kastan> EriC^^: just curious is there a way to do the same command but with root?
[04:01] <cricketfart> EriC^^, I have OpenSSH-server installed on my liveboot Ubuntu, but I'm not able to SSH into it...
[04:01] <cricketfart> cricketfart@cricketfart-Lenovo-IdeaPad-P580:~$ sudo ssh 192.168.0.22
[04:01] <cricketfart> ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.22 port 22: Connection refused
[04:01] <cricketfart> On the liveboot I ran sudo ufw allow 22 already
[04:02] <EriC^^> kastan: with root you just type nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:02] <kastan> EriC^^: ok sweet
[04:02] <Bashing-om> krusz: What is your end goal ?
[04:02] <krusz> to make more space
[04:02] <krusz> i've got terrible mess with my drive and lot of non-used free spaces
[04:03] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2212086 RonWhoCares
[04:03] <Jordan_U> emanuel_: Yes I will, though I'm almost done writing the script.
[04:03] <Bashing-om> !gparted | krusz
[04:03] <emanuel_> Jordan_U: I'll delay her then.
[04:04] <krusz> got some win7 partitions and one small for linux, i need more space for linux but i already have 4 partitions and cannot make more. gparted is not working, other gui partitions tools also
[04:04] <Bashing-om> krusz: Gprated is included on the liveDVD(USB).
[04:04] <charlesay> RonWhoCares: I don't understand your question
[04:05] <Jordan_U> emanuel_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10198310/
[04:05] <kxtwo> damn it this isn't working
[04:06] <Jordan_U> emanuel_: Create the file /etc/pm/power.d/99_auto_shutdown with those contents, then "sudo chmod +x /etc/pm/power.d/99_auto_shutdown".
[04:06] <kxtwo> Are there special instructions I need to follow for an efi install?
[04:06] <kxtwo> the install seemed to go fine but it went right back into windows 8
[04:06] <bongma> daftykins:  ok  i now have the list. can i paste it here for you to see?
[04:06] <Jordan_U> emanuel_: If you keep a terminal open after adding that script, you will see broadcast messages about the shutdown being triggered or disabled based on the AC power being lost and regained respectively.
[04:07] <emanuel_> Jordan_U: thanks let me try it
[04:07] <Bashing-om> krusz: In the legacy partitioning scheme there is a max of 4 'primary' partitions. What one does is take one of those primary partitions, and make an 'extended' partition. In this 'extended' container one can make up additional 'logical' partitions.
[04:08] <charlesay> kxtwo: what do you mean by going back to windows?
[04:08] <daftykins> bongma: ultimately if you see samba is installed, that's why it's keeping it updated.
[04:08] <kxtwo> im not getting the grub menu, it has to do with UEFI I think I found documentation
[04:09] <EriC^^> kxtwo: hp, toshiba laptop?
[04:09] <kxtwo> hp
[04:09] <EriC^^> ohhh
[04:09] <edson> hardware
[04:09] <Jordan_U> emanuel_: This version has a slight change to use the syntax documented in the shutdown man page (though the syntax I used in the other version appears to also work on my machine): http://paste.ubuntu.com/10198352/
[04:09] <kxtwo> new, just bought it today, forgot about the newer bios' having issues with ubuntu
[04:10] <EriC^^> kxtwo: ok press esc when it boots then press f9
[04:10] <EriC^^> to get the boot options, then select ubuntu
[04:10] <kxtwo> wtf
[04:10] <computerquip> Would anyone be able to present ideas as to why Unity is slow when using the "Present All Windows" hot corner?
[04:10] <kxtwo> I was about to start playing around lol
[04:10] <kxtwo> there is a built in boot manager on the newer machines?
[04:10] <kxtwo> this makes me feel old :(
[04:10] <EriC^^> kxtwo: i reinstalled ubuntu twice before finding that out
[04:11] <kxtwo> is there a way to make it bring up the boot menu every boot?
[04:11] <emanuel_> Jordan_U: I can't get cut and paste to work in the remote desktop I will have to type it
[04:11] <kxtwo> I was going into the bios to see if there was an option
[04:11] <cricketfart> computerquip, System specs?
[04:11] <EriC^^> kxtwo: yeah, you'll have to rename some efi files cause you have a hard wired bios that will only boot windows efi files
[04:11] <bongma> daftykins:  but i dont use samba at all. is samba a requirement in ubuntu or lubuntu in my case??
[04:12] <kxtwo> is it simple enough to do or better off sticking with esc f9 and where the freak did you find this?
[04:12] <computerquip> cricketfart.. overkill of a computer. I'm also using the nvidia driver for what it's worth (although I don't think nouveau should even be this slow).
[04:12] <EriC^^> kxtwo: the f9 by mistake i think, somebody mentioned something about boot options and i pressed f9 and it came up, something like that i forgot
[04:12] <computerquip> Trying to animate all the windows, with say a movie playing, can take several seconds.
[04:12] <Jordan_U> emanuel_: wget http://paste.debian.net/plain/146848
[04:12] <pudgalvin> Hi guys/gals.  Can someone explain to me the basics of why hud-service gobbles all the memories from time to time (I'm on 14.04)?
[04:13] <cricketfart> computerquip, Yeah, my only ammo for that was a lack of memory.  Sorry pal
[04:13] <Jordan_U> emanuel_: That will download the script for you, then you just need to copy it into place and make it executable.
[04:13] <EriC^^> kxtwo: it's pretty easy, did you boot into ubuntu now?
[04:13] <computerquip> cricketfart, ?
[04:13] <kxtwo> might be moot, ubuntu is running like butt on this machine
[04:13] <cricketfart> computerquip, If you're running an overkill of a computer, then ram isn't the issue..  That's all
[04:14] <kxtwo> EriC^^, yes but it is taking forever, not running verl well
[04:14] <computerquip> Yeah, 32gB of high performance RAM... def not the issue.
[04:14] <cricketfart> computerquip, just saying that I don't have any other info, I was just goign to suggest that haha.  Sorry man
[04:14] <emanuel_> Jordan_U: wget done as su now to do the chmod
[04:14] <RonWhoCares> I am receiving the message "Processing - Not connected"
[04:14] <EriC^^> kxtwo: that's odd ubuntu runs really well here
[04:14] <RonWhoCares> I am unsure of what setting my printer needs
[04:14] <kxtwo> EriC^^, im hoping because it is a fresh install it just needs some updates
[04:15] <EriC^^> hmm
[04:15] <kxtwo> I mean this isn't a top of the line LT but it is an i3 with 6gb of ram.  Much better than what I'm on now
[04:15] <Jordan_U> emanuel_: I assume that you added "-O /etc/pm/power.d/99_auto_shutdown" to your wget command to have it save it to the correct path?
[04:15] <computerquip> I suppose I should just... not use Unity.
[04:15] <EriC^^> type top in the terminal and see if anything is eating the cpu up
[04:15] <charlesay> RonWhoCares: did you download and install the deb file from Brother?
[04:16] <RonWhoCares> charlesay: Yes I have.
[04:16] <daftykins> bongma: nope, you can try removing it - but i'm pretty sure it's not taking your family hostage or drinking your beer ;)
[04:16] <OY1R_> can ubuntu 14.04 window menus be sticky/always showing instead of fading away ?
[04:16] <kxtwo> also we need to get that f9 trick into documentation somewhere for other people dealing with that lol
[04:16] <emanuel_> Jordan_U: No I changed to the dir then used sudo wget to get it and then sudo cp top copy it to the right name then the chmod and deleted the old one
[04:16] <kxtwo> EriC^^, I plan on it just waiting for updates
[04:16] <krusz> Bashing-om: http://ctrlv.in/501839
[04:16] <krusz> hope you can view it
[04:16] <RonWhoCares> charlesay: within "Printers" I see "MFCJ435W"   That is my printer.  But there is an "i"
[04:16] <xangua> OY1R_: on 15.04, they will
[04:16] <Jordan_U> emanuel_: OK.
[04:16] <OY1R_> xangua, so not in 14.04 lts ?
[04:17] <cricketfart> computerquip, what version of Ubuntu are you operating under?
[04:17] <computerquip> 14.10
[04:17] <cricketfart> computerquip, 14.04?
[04:17] <kxtwo> EriC^^, What was the ESC for, it seems like f9 by itself  would bring up that menu?
[04:17] <grazfather> hey guys, what's the package name i need to install gcc linux eabi for armv4t?
[04:17] <emanuel_> Jordan_U: And it gave me the message in terminial so it looks like we are good. Thank you very much
[04:17] <EriC^^> kxtwo: yeah that's true
[04:18] <xangua> OY1R_: you can disable or uninstall global menus as a workaround (menus will be displayed in menubar, not in decoration window)
[04:18] <OY1R_> xangua, i have local menus enabled
[04:18] <cricketfart> computerquip,  maybe try 14.04 unless there are reasons why not?
[04:18] <computerquip> Probably not a bad idea... I've had kind of a poor experience with 14.10 unfortunately.
[04:18] <OY1R_> men they fade away once the cursor moves of the menu field, kinda annoying
[04:18] <EriC^^> kxtwo: i usually have my iphone on the laptop so it takes a while to hit that button
[04:19] <Jordan_U> emanuel_: You're welcome. Please do read the script and comments, try it out with a real shutdown and tell me how it went tomorrow :)
[04:19] <Bashing-om> krusz: Look'n at http://ctrlv.in/501839 .
[04:19] <emanuel_> Will do Jordan_U
[04:19] <cricketfart> computerquip, as have I, the same problem I had in 14.10 was in 14.04 but in 14.04 I was actually able to fix it with some help.  I bet 14.10 is just a tad too new and not all the bugs are worked out yet perhaps
[04:20] <charlesay> RonWhoCares: i think that should be fine, check the connection to your printer and that cups (the printer-managing system) is running
[04:20] <EriC^^> kxtwo: also wasnt sure it's also f9 there
[04:23] <RonWhoCares> oh
[04:23] <RonWhoCares> mzh hz dig
[04:23] <edson> hardware
[04:24] <OY1R_> i want gnome 2 back....
[04:24] <edson> hardware hardware
[04:24] <cricketfart> edson: bad command or filename
[04:27] <Bashing-om> krusz: You should be able to 'move' sda6 ( ubuntu operating sysem partition) to the left into that 75.24 Gib unallocated space. Working from a liveDVD - such that the partitions are not in use. I do note that there is no swap swap space provided . How much ram do you have installed ?
[04:29] <kxtwo> my god how does windows 8.1 boot so fast
[04:29] <EriC^^> kxtwo: cause you're ubuntu isn't right
[04:29] <cricketfart> kxtwo,  Many, many, many reasons
[04:29] <krusz> Bashing-om: i've recently deleted swap space when i was trying to find a way for building this partition working. i;ve got 6gb's of RAM. you may have a point, that i can manage those partitions from live-cd
[04:29] <EriC^^> ( if you have fastboot/hibernate turned off )
[04:29] <cricketfart> kxtwo, but my Ubuntu boots way faster than 8.1
[04:30] <kxtwo> EriC^^, it is a fresh install, windows 8 is virtually instantaneous
[04:30] <EriC^^> kxtwo: did you turn fastboot off?
[04:30] <kxtwo> less than 8 seconds
[04:30] <kxtwo> no I was about to when you told me about f9
[04:30] <EriC^^> kxtwo: windows 8 uses something called fastboot, which basically is hibernate
[04:31] <daftykins> kxtwo: it's a dirty cheat.
[04:31] <EriC^^> yup
[04:31] <kxtwo> that exdplains why after ubuntu install it took longer
[04:31] <kxtwo> too bad you can't use it with ubuntu!
[04:32] <yukitaio> hola
[04:32] <yukitaio> hola
[04:32] <cricketfart> Windows 8/8.1 is one of the reasons I've abandoned Microsoft on a personal level...
[04:32] <yukitaio> what
[04:32] <yukitaio> ??
[04:32] <kxtwo> I don't really even u se windows
[04:32] <cricketfart> Just trash
[04:33] <kxtwo> but I have 0 experience with windows 8 and its good to at least keep it on hand if needed
[04:33] <yukitaio> where u from???
[04:33] <kxtwo> but people seem to like 8.1 a lot
[04:33] <somsip> !ot | yukitaio
[04:33] <kxtwo> what is so bad about this fast boot?  Does it have any negative impact on my ubuntu boot?
[04:33] <cricketfart> kxtwo,  Are you kidding me?!!!  I've met like.. 3 people for every 1000 that enjoy Windows 8/8.1
[04:33] <yukitaio> sad
[04:33] <yukitaio> asd
[04:33] <yukitaio> as
[04:33] <yukitaio> a
[04:33] <yukitaio> sda
[04:33] <yukitaio> sa
[04:34] <kxtwo> Cricket then you are meeting the wrong people?
[04:34] <kxtwo> Not saying I don't personally agree with you, but 8.1 is more popular than 8 and has grown in popularity a bit
[04:34] <EriC^^> kxtwo: the partition will be in an unstable state and you can't use the windows partition in ubuntu
[04:35] <kxtwo> I don't really care too much to be honest, I am only keeping it so if I need windows for something.
[04:35] <cricketfart> If that's what you mean exclusively then yes, I'd agree.  However, I have found that Windows 8/8.1 have been all-around poorly received by all walks of life when compared to previous Windows OS releases
[04:35] <kxtwo> EriC^^, just to clarify, you are saying if I DONT turn off fastboot the only negative impact is that I won't be able to mount the windows partition from ubuntu?
[04:36] <kxtwo> clearly my knowledge is a bit outdated so anything else you guys feel I should know please spit it out lol
[04:36] <cricketfart> About your fast boot though kxtwo,  it's so bad because your Windows 8/8.1 is not actually in a legitimate "off" state.  It's technically hibernating, and is "in-use" which is why you can't mount the windows partition
[04:37] <cricketfart> If you turn fast boot off though, it will be powered off and it won't be in-use and you will be able to mount
[04:37] <kxtwo> is fast boot in the bios?
[04:37] <Bashing-om> krusz: With 6 gigs of tam it is possiblke that you will nit need a swap space. A good guide to partitioning: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/gparted.html .
[04:38] <cricketfart> Umm, I can't remember off the top of my head.  I dont' think so, I'll double check give me a minute
[04:38] <charlesay> anyone any ideas why my graphical desktop broke? am close to installing a new os instead of troubleshooting
[04:38] <cricketfart> kxtwo, http://winaero.com/blog/how-to-disable-or-enable-fast-startup-in-windows-8-1/
[04:38] <cricketfart> This should help you out
[04:38] <kxtwo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[04:38] <kxtwo> that says it is in the bios too but I have no option
[04:39] <EriC^^> kxtwo: nah it's in the control panel, power
[04:39] <kxtwo> ok this might be a stupid question
[04:39] <cricketfart> kxtwo, that link I posted has the information you need.  In your charms bar type po bu in the search
[04:39] <EriC^^> edit power plan or something, then change options that aren't shown, and it'll pop up below
[04:40] <kxtwo> if this wasn't at the bios level, and winblows was sleeping, how did I get to the boot menu to mount linux?
[04:40] <cricketfart> They're mounted at different points...
[04:41] <cricketfart> Your system is off = Everything off,  Your system is on = Linux mounted, Windows "IN use"  for example
[04:41] <kxtwo> cricket, what I mean is if windows is just sleeping the bios shouldn't even be triggered when I hit the power button... unless that is the whol point of this new quick start
[04:41] <cricketfart> That is the whole point
[04:41] <daftykins> kxtwo: it's a suspend to disk, not suspend to RAM
[04:42] <kxtwo> daftykins, I love simple answers :)
[04:42] <kxtwo> I honestly don't care about fast boot being on if the only issues is the inability to see my windows partition.  Any other tips and tricks you guys want to share, first new laptop in a few years so some things have changed
[04:42] <cricketfart> kxtwo, I think we've lost the original problem here, refresher maybe?
[04:43] <EriC^^> last it was ubuntu was running poorly
[04:43] <cricketfart> And didn't you agree that you were going to try out 14.04 because of poor experience with 14.10?
[04:43] <EriC^^> another concern is renaming the efi files so the boot manager boots ubuntu instead of windows
[04:43] <kxtwo> EriC^^, I mentioned that one time like 20 minutes ago
[04:43] <kxtwo> you guys are correct the topics have become broad
[04:44] <cricketfart> Lol the joys of text communication :D
[04:44] <kxtwo> ok let me log into windows and turn off fastboot then go from there
[04:44] <EriC^^> kxtwo: i'm laying out the issues
[04:44] <kxtwo> EriC^^, maybe I misunderstood, I didn't think that the windows fast boot was relevant to the stability of ubuntu beyond mounting those partitions
[04:44] <kxtwo> if I wwere actually running windows I would love this fast boot but for now I shall disable
[04:45] <kxtwo> logging in still takes a while on windows anyway so it probaly evens out
[04:45] <EriC^^> kxtwo: im confused, are you saying ubuntu is running properly now?
[04:46] <cricketfart> He hasn't logged out yet to switch to Ubuntu...
[04:46] <cricketfart> or to Windows I mean
[04:46] <EriC^^> i thought he was going to try updating stuff and maybe stuff would work properly
[04:46] <cricketfart> Yeah, but we'd see him log out and back on if he's switching
[04:47] <EriC^^> nah he came on here and was asking how to boot and immediately booted in
[04:47] <cricketfart> I guess lol sorry mate
[04:47] <bmelcher84> sup home slices
[04:47] <kxtwo> no I am on another laptop
[04:48] <daftykins> bmelcher84: not a place for street talk.
[04:48] <kxtwo> before while we were talking, most of tha ttime I was waiting for updates
[04:48]  * Symmetria celebrates
[04:48] <kxtwo> so everything was must gabbing and you guys educating me on fast startup
[04:48] <bmelcher84> just saying hi lol
[04:48] <Symmetria> my raid 5 array finally finished its init
[04:48] <Symmetria> took 5 days!
[04:48] <bmelcher84> whats up? or should i say what is going on good sir?
[04:48] <cfhowlett> bmelcher84 ask your ubuntu question
[04:49] <bmelcher84> cfhowlett: who said i had a question?
[04:49] <Symmetria> my question, does anyone know if there is any planned support for adding highpoint rocketraid controllers into the default install of ubuntu to avoid having to download third party drivers?
[04:49] <EriC^^> bmelcher84: head on to #ubuntu-offtopic then
[04:49] <Symmetria> (or apt packaging them)
[04:50] <bmelcher84> EriC^^: Oh, so this room is only for asking questions? Is there a form of of some type to fill out to help others?
[04:50] <EriC^^> bmelcher84: you mean you want to help? no just go ahead
[04:51] <bmelcher84> EriC^^: usually thats the only reason I come here but seems this time its not welcome
[04:51] <cfhowlett> !behelpful | bmelcher84
[04:52] <kxtwo> ok booting into ubuntu
[04:52] <bmelcher84> ubottu: all I said was hi, none of what your guidelines comment says was done here.
[04:53] <kxtwo> this is so convoluted, I hit f9 then can choose between os manager(which boots windows) and ubuntu(which boots grub and gives me a choice to actually boot ubuntu or boot windows again) lol
[04:53] <bmelcher84> well only a bot would say that :p
[04:53] <bynarie> kxtwo, have u set which partition to boot from in bios?
[04:54] <bmelcher84> kxtwo: I may be coming into this a bit late, but what boot loader are you using?
[04:54] <kxtwo> bynarie, I do not believe there is an option in this bios but could be missing it
[04:55] <bynarie> kxtwo, reason why i ask is because mine WAS the same way until i changed boot order... boot from harddrive has a sub-section that asks me what harddrive/partition to boot from
[04:55] <kxtwo> bmelcher84, I just did a fresh install so I believe that boot loader will be grub, but I have an EFI laptop which is completely new to me and that was the issue, thankfully another user here told me about just using f9 to "change devices" to boot
[04:55] <bmelcher84> kxtwo: http://bit.ly/1FFCsnK
[04:55] <EriC^^> bmelcher84: bynarie he's using uefi, and an hp laptop, which most often has a hard wired bios that will only boot windows efi files, so he'll need to trick the bios by renaming the grub efi file as the windows one and he might have to delete the entry in the efibootmgr ( just maybe )
[04:55] <kxtwo> bynarie, I will double check that
[04:55] <cricketfart> kxtwo windows 8 uses GPT
[04:56] <bmelcher84> I believe that link should solve things right up for you
[04:56] <kxtwo> I do not know what GPT is
[04:56] <cricketfart> !GPT
[04:56] <kxtwo> There was absolutely no fucking need for that
[04:56] <cfhowlett> kxtwo, nor is there a need for such profanity.  stop
[04:56] <EriC^^> kxtwo: ?
[04:56] <cricketfart> kxtwo I was just trying to pull up info for gpt for you.....?
[04:57] <bmelcher84> whoa kxtwo, what is the issue here?
[04:57] <bynarie> LOL that was pretty funny
[04:57] <kxtwo> Not you cricketfart
[04:58] <EriC^^> me?
[04:58] <kxtwo> no
[04:58] <bynarie> kxtwo, i can take a screenshot for you if it could help u figure out what to look for
[04:58] <EriC^^> kxtwo: then who?
[04:58] <kxtwo> just moving on past the smugness of another user
[04:58] <kxtwo> Anyway updates seem to have fixed initial slowness, ubuntu partition is running smooth now
[04:58] <EriC^^> which user?
[04:59] <EriC^^> literally just me and cricketfart spoke to you
[04:59] <EriC^^> and bmelcher84
[04:59] <kxtwo> I think you missed something because that is not exactly true... none the less it's ok
[05:00] <EriC^^> oh ok
[05:00] <kxtwo> as for the EFI stuff, unless there are other reasons to do it, I am ok with having to f9 it to boot into ubuntu
[05:00] <EriC^^> just checked the link
[05:00] <EriC^^> !googleit | bmelcher84
[05:00] <EriC^^> cfhowlett: back me up?
[05:00] <EriC^^> !google | bmelcher84
[05:00] <jirido> Results for | bmelcher84 on Google:
[05:00] <jirido> --
[05:00] <cricketfart> Oh man...  bmelcher...  wtf...  wtf
[05:00] <daftykins> kxtwo: do try and keep the language friendly please :)
[05:01] <cfhowlett> EriC^^, doing my best to stay out of this mess ...
[05:01] <cricketfart> ahahahaah omg
[05:01] <cricketfart> This was great, sorry it's at your expense kxtwo..  From my perspective, this is funny as hell
[05:01] <bynarie> hey kxtwo which device did u install bootloader on? maybe that has somethin to do with it
[05:01] <kxtwo> EriC^^, you see why I was highly annoyed, where I come from you only do that to insult peoples intelligence whilst being smug
[05:03] <EriC^^> did anybody notice there's a google bot in the channel?
[05:03] <kxtwo> bynarie, I did not pick a different partition for the grub so it would have gone on the main ext4 partition by default I assume(full disclosure I am a little rusty and things have changed a bit since my last escapade)
[05:03] <kxtwo> There is an efi partition but I was not messing with that
[05:03] <EriC^^> jirido:
[05:04] <kxtwo> Basically what happens is if I boot it goes right into windows, a simply hit of f9 gives me the ubuntu option, its really not a big deal just new to me.  EriC^^ says there are ways to change files to make that not happen but if there are no other benefits I am thinking for now it is best to leave it alone
[05:04] <bynarie> i believe this is where bios comes into play.. if u have a way of selecting which partition to boot from, its prolly labeled "ubuntu"
[05:04] <bynarie> thats what i had to do kxtwo because i know exactly what u are talking about
[05:04] <kxtwo> btw I am really glad you guys actually acknowledge the whole google thing.  I remember back in the day that was the default answer... google it.... google it.... google it.  Used to drive me nuts.
[05:05] <EriC^^> kxtwo: it's really simple and can be undone easily
[05:05] <kxtwo> bynarie I am going to reboot and check that but from what EriC^^ has said about the tpical HP bios Im suspecting it wont work
[05:05] <bmelcher84> kxtwo: I think we got off on the wrong foot. Is your legacy and secure boot disabled?
[05:05] <bynarie> there should be a HDD Priorities in bios which asks which partition to boot from when booting hard disk
[05:05] <bynarie> bmelcher84, i dont think secure boot really matters in this case
[05:06] <bynarie> kxtwo, maybe not but worth a look at best
[05:06] <kxtwo> bynarie, agreed and bmelcher84 I will check momentarily
[05:06] <bmelcher84> kxtwo: you can try running sudo efibootmgr -v
[05:07] <EriC^^> kxtwo: i've gotten mine to work to help another user here, i leave it with the f9 though cause whenever i leave home i hibernate, and home it's on all the time, unless i decide to venture into youtube with firefox, the f9 is more like in case the laptop gets stolen or something they will boot to windows i guess, and my stuff will go unnoticed maybe
[05:07] <kxtwo> EriC^^, ohh that is a good thought process right there
[05:08] <bynarie> EriC^^, good call
[05:08] <daftykins> little bit like security through obscurity to me ;)
[05:08] <daftykins> anybody with any clue would see right past it :>
[05:08] <kxtwo> legacy is disabled
[05:08] <kxtwo> secure is enabled
[05:08] <cricketfart> How do I see my default gateway in terminal?
[05:08] <bmelcher84> kxtwo: look ^ at the command to run
[05:08] <daftykins> cricketfart: ip route
[05:08] <cricketfart> thanks
[05:08] <kxtwo> wow if I read this correctly enabled legacy would solve all of this
[05:09] <kxtwo> im in bios now, will do so when I get back into ubuntu
[05:09] <daftykins> legacy solves nothing
[05:10] <bmelcher84> kxtwo: what is the output of the command you ran above?
[05:10] <kxtwo> legacy won't boot into UEFI, doesn't that solve the problem?
[05:10] <kxtwo> I'm not there yet hold on
[05:10] <bmelcher84> holding
[05:11] <kxtwo> well it loks like I picked a good time to buy a new laptop I think there is something wrong with this one it keeps going into sleep mode
[05:11] <bynarie> kxtwo, check hdd priorities on bios... later good luck
[05:11] <EriC^^> kxtwo: it's remarkably easy to fix the issue
[05:11] <kxtwo> bynarie, I am there now
[05:11] <bmelcher84> kxtwo: maybe it's tired
[05:11] <EriC^^> you just need to rename 2 files
[05:12] <kxtwo> There is no HDD just OS boot manager
[05:12] <EriC^^> ( most likely )
[05:12] <kxtwo> EriC^^, I am actually not worried about it at this moment to be honest, I was more so just curiosu and enjoying playing with some new stuff.  I think I will keep f9 for the reasons you said.  Will make it harder for them to get into my primary system lol
[05:13] <bmelcher84> kxtwo: for everyone other than who is in this room ;)
[05:13] <kxtwo> but yah without legacy mode there is no HD option just that boot manager and there appears to be no further o ptions beyond that
[05:13] <EriC^^> *dum* *dum* *dum*
[05:14] <kxtwo> ok let me try the eficonfig thing now
[05:14] <loadedanvils> hello
[05:14] <loadedanvils> what's the default cursor theme in unity?
[05:15] <kxtwo> damn it, ok maybe f9 will be annoying.  didn't hit it quickly enough lol
[05:16] <bmelcher84> kxtwo: ctrl, alt, and del will become your best friends
[05:16] <EriC^^> yeah, i'd rename the files
[05:16] <EriC^^> i literally type uptime sometimes and get shocked
[05:17] <EriC^^> ubuntu goes for weeks at time running here
[05:17] <bmelcher84> kxtwo: are you running 32 or 64
[05:18] <kxtwo> 64
[05:18] <kxtwo> ok and got the output from the efibootmgr
[05:18] <EriC^^> if you're going to be rebooting or using windows often definitely rename the files
[05:18] <kxtwo> I shutdown a lot
[05:18] <kxtwo> I probably wont use windows a lot
[05:18] <kxtwo> but it will be nice to know how to do this anyway
[05:18] <bmelcher84> kxtwo: what was the output?
[05:19] <kxtwo> um
[05:19] <kxtwo> there is a lot here, how ab out you tell me what you ar elooking for lol
[05:20] <cfhowlett> !paste | kxtwo, is your friend
[05:20] <kxtwo> machine is not on the network
[05:20] <bmelcher84> kxtwo: dont be scared http://goo.gl/yoJHq4
[05:22] <kxtwo> this is interesting
[05:23] <kxtwo> only difference is that my EFI has it's own partition
[05:24] <EriC^^> kxtwo: it's mounted at /boot/efi
[05:24] <EriC^^> kxtwo: that's literally what i was telling you you could do
[05:24] <EriC^^> except i'd back it up as bootmgfw.efi.backup in the same dir
[05:25] <kxtwo> its not giving me the full path it started at \EFI
[05:25] <EriC^^> kxtwo: also i just remembered you will have to fix grub cause grub wont be able to boot windows for you anymore, cause it's os prober won't find the bootmgfw.efi file anymore
[05:25] <kxtwo> but ya
[05:26] <EriC^^> kxtwo: that's the efibootmgr entry
[05:26] <kxtwo> ah
[05:26] <EriC^^> shows the list that you see when you press f9
[05:26] <kxtwo> well my output is partially gobbly gook
[05:26] <EriC^^> with a certain boot order
[05:26] <kxtwo> anyway I am going to change the *.efi file to efi.backup
[05:26] <kxtwo> and copy the ubuntu one over
[05:27] <EriC^^> hold on
[05:27] <EriC^^> copy shimx64.efi instead of grubx64.efi
[05:27] <kxtwo> can I ask why?
[05:28] <EriC^^> btw on my laptop that wasn't enough, i had to also switch /boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi
[05:28] <EriC^^> and completely annihilate the windows entry in efibootmgr
[05:28] <EriC^^> the thing kept spawning itself again
[05:28] <kxtwo> oh boy now im getting concerned
[05:28] <Scooty-loo> hello, anyone here know about clamav?
[05:29] <EriC^^> kxtwo: you shouldn't be yet, it worked for me, but the guy i was helping worked, except every time he booted into windows it would spawn it again
[05:29] <cricketfart> does anyone know why netflix is so quiet in Ubuntu?  Apparently Chrome browser is the only way to watch Netflix, so I installed it and I'm able to perfectly view it but the volume is so low that I can't hear it.  I turned the volume to max on my laptop and in the browser.  Everything else on my PC is so loud it's distorted over the speakers but I still can't hear Netflix
[05:29] <kxtwo> EriC^^,  you kind of lost me though
[05:30] <kxtwo> what is the difference between shimx and grubx?
[05:30] <kxtwo> lets start there
[05:30] <EriC^^> shimx is for secure boot
[05:30] <Scooty-loo> cricketfart: check your mixer, look at both output volume and application dependent volume
[05:31] <cricketfart> Kk
[05:31] <kxtwo> ok what is the difference?
[05:31] <EriC^^> it's a signed efi file that the uefi will boot
[05:32] <kxtwo> ok im still not understaind the difference between the two but moving on
[05:34] <EriC^^> kxtwo: secure boot only allows you to boot certain stuff, so that nobody boots a virus or malicious os or something, so if the efi file isn't signed and in the list of efi files in the uefi ( bios ) it wont boot it
[05:34] <EriC^^> grubx64.efi is a normal efi file, shimx64.efi is a signed efi file that will work with secure boot
[05:37] <cricketfart> Omfg help!  I just fresh installed ubuntu 14.04 and I forgot what I put the password to as soon as I booted LOL
[05:37] <EriC^^> boot into recovery mode and reset it
[05:37] <kxtwo> ugh I keep tying my commands wrong hold on
[05:38] <daftykins> that's when you know it's bed time
[05:38] <daftykins> ;)
[05:39] <jishjish> HI All, I am looking to migrate from windows family tree maker to ubuntu. However I am struggling with the idea of exporting my data from FamilyTreeMaker 2006 to the widely supported gedcom format (given I have no idea what will happen to all the images I have attached to each person in my family, and or how that data will get migrated).
[05:40] <cricketfart> Ok I'm in recovery mode, what do I do next?
[05:40] <daftykins> follow the steps to boot to a root shell
[05:41] <cricketfart> I got to the point where I type mount -o remount,rw /
[05:41] <daftykins> then run "sudo mount -o remount,rw /"
[05:41] <daftykins> yep
[05:41] <cricketfart> Nothing happened after that
[05:41] <kxtwo> holy shit I am too tired to do this I keep typing the damn file names wrong
[05:41] <daftykins> then "passwd username"
[05:41] <daftykins> kxtwo: stop swearing in here please, two of us warned you already
[05:41] <cricketfart> done thanks daftykins
[05:41] <daftykins> cricketfart: "umount /" then reboot
[05:41] <cricketfart> Done lol thanks
[05:42] <EriC^^> umount / ? seriously?
[05:42] <cricketfart> ?
[05:42] <OerHeks> !info gramps
[05:42] <OerHeks> it supports gedcom format
[05:42] <EriC^^> that works?
[05:42] <daftykins> EriC^^: well i dunno, might be safer in recovery :D
[05:42] <daftykins> i'm rather tipsy at this point :>
[05:42] <cricketfart> HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[05:42] <cricketfart> Me too daftykins
[05:42] <EriC^^> hehe :D
[05:43] <daftykins> my brain says "unmount all the things"
[05:43] <kxtwo> EriC^^, might have to do this tomorrow, hopefully you are on again
[05:43] <OerHeks> jishjish, http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-genealogy-family-tree-software.htm
[05:43] <daftykins> EriC^^: were you thinking it was overkill to bother?
[05:43] <kxtwo> just making sure everything boots properly first lol
[05:44] <EriC^^> i was thinking is that possible?
[05:44] <EriC^^> does it work?
[05:44] <daftykins> ah right
[05:44] <daftykins> yeah, pass :D
[05:44] <EriC^^> i guess it could work? just sounded so weird at first
[05:44] <cricketfart> It all worked haha thanks guys
[05:45] <EriC^^> like somebody said throw the baby out of the window or something like that
[05:45] <EriC^^> ( something like that )
[05:46] <jishjish> thanks OerHeks I was more looking for what happens to my data when I export (my trees of people and associated images) to gedcom, given it's a text based format isn't it. How do my images get migrated? I already have a list of applicable linux software.
[05:46] <cricketfart> You know, I've actually reinstalled Linux OSes several times in the past due to forgotten passwords...
[05:46] <daftykins> well, now you know :>
[05:47] <jishjish> cricketfart: me too, such a pain
[05:47] <cricketfart> I'm sooo happy that I can fix that now :D
[05:47] <cricketfart> People talk about this bash script to automate user adds, where can I find reliable information on this short of jfgi?
[05:48] <daftykins> anything that holds your hand stops you learning and remembering the proper way, really
[05:49] <kxtwo> im such an idiot I have that on the network now and could have just logge dinto xchat from there
[05:49] <kxtwo> I've been  using psensor for my temp monitoring, do you guys recommend an alternative or stick with it?
[05:50] <daftykins> lmsensors also exists
[05:50] <EriC^^> kxtwo: i'm using it
[05:50] <kxtwo> isn't psensors a wrapper for that?
[05:50] <AlonzoTG> =\
[05:50] <daftykins> pass
[05:50] <daftykins> oh dear, AlonzoTG doesn't seem to be happy today
[05:51] <cricketfart> daftykins I'm not sure what you mean.  I already know how to use add user and visudo to add users to certain groups...  I'm practicing admin tasks in a linux environment, and I know theres a way to automate, which will help me lol
[05:51] <AlonzoTG> Steam has made it clear that it will, going forward, only install and run on a 32 bit install of 12.04.0.0.32.184.3409575.548.3[21
[05:51] <OerHeks> jishjish, no idea, try it out ?
[05:51] <daftykins> AlonzoTG: what are you running?
[05:51] <AlonzoTG> Steam.
[05:51] <AlonzoTG> I used to run steam.
[05:51] <daftykins> AlonzoTG: no, ubuntu version
[05:52] <AlonzoTG> I want to run steam.
[05:52]  * daftykins facepalms
[05:52] <AlonzoTG> That's the rub of it.
[05:52] <daftykins> you make zero sense
[05:52] <cricketfart> AlonzoTG install Wine from software center, download a windows version of steam and install it with wine
[05:52] <OerHeks> cricketfart, wrong, wine only do 32 bit :-D
[05:52] <cricketfart> OerHeks, I have Wine running on an x64
[05:52] <AlonzoTG> I don't use ubuntu. I have it on my laptop but that install has fallen apart due to a version conflict between the updates it insists on installing at a rate of 5 times per second...
[05:53] <daftykins> AlonzoTG: so why are you in here? what of your 'problem' is an ubuntu problem?
[05:53] <OerHeks> cricketfart, 64 bit app in wine ? come on ..
[05:53] <AlonzoTG> No, linux has deteriorated (or rather my previous motherboard had...) to the point that I actually built my first windows machine in 23 years and have it on HT duty.
[05:53] <cricketfart> Oerheks Maybe I'm misunderstanding you
[05:53] <AlonzoTG> So what I did was I got me debootstrap,
[05:53] <cricketfart> I have a 64 bit installation of Ubuntu and I'm using Wine in it
[05:53] <AlonzoTG> and installed the PRECISE version that Steam needed...
[05:53] <EriC^^> daftykins: :D
[05:54] <daftykins> AlonzoTG: is there any chance you can skip to the *executive summary* that cuts this life story short?
[05:54] <EriC^^> :D
[05:54] <OerHeks> cricketfart, so what is the use of 32 bit wine, as ubuntu has native steam ..
[05:54] <cricketfart> LOLLLL
[05:54] <daftykins> AlonzoTG: i see what you did there, 12.04 - precise
[05:54] <OerHeks> cricketfart, stop trolling please
[05:54] <AlonzoTG> So I am wandering around this 32 bit chrooted environment that is supposed to be running ubuntu.
[05:55] <cricketfart> OerHeks, In my case, it was to be able to run AoE2 which doesn't run in the native Ubuntu Steam
[05:55] <cricketfart> OerHeks I'm definitely not trolling...
[05:55] <AlonzoTG> Lemme pastebin the error.
[05:55] <daftykins> AlonzoTG: that's not a real install then, not supported
[05:55] <AlonzoTG> But what about all those great linux compatible games I paid Real Money for? =(
[05:56] <cricketfart> If you check into it, a lot of games on the Steam version for Ubuntu will not work on the native steam version and you have to install it with Wine.  Afterwards it requires modding a few registry keys to display the text on Steam properly and then you can easily install Windows Games through Steam
[05:56] <AlonzoTG> https://bpaste.net/show/e4d42337553f
[05:57] <AlonzoTG> Yeah, I've been through all that, now I have a windows machine hooked up to a 46" HDTV, so I'm definitely not in the market for fake-'doze steam right now. =|
[05:58] <fabio> heloo
[05:58] <AlonzoTG> See, my new video card is better than yours and it's aching to be let loose on something AWESOME.
[05:58] <daftykins> how rather trolltastic
[05:58] <OerHeks> just a locales issue ..
[05:59] <OerHeks> AlonzoTG, how did you instal steam, from their website or softwarecenter?
[05:59] <AlonzoTG> ugh...
[05:59] <AlonzoTG> I don't remember how I did it several years ago,
[05:59] <AlonzoTG> been running this machine for longer than I can remember,
[05:59] <AlonzoTG> you may count the new mobo+ video card a new machine or an upgrade at your discretion.
[06:00] <AlonzoTG> Right now I have steam_latest.deb
[06:00] <AlonzoTG> and am trying to install that...
[06:00] <cricketfart> right click and open with software center
[06:00] <AlonzoTG> didn't realize that apt-get install with no other parametrs actually did something...
[06:00] <daftykins> ^this guy spouts uninteresting trollworthy remarks in and amongst half assed attempts at asking for support for a non-ubuntu system
[06:00] <AlonzoTG> I don't have gui working in the chrooted environment yet.
[06:01] <cricketfart> *suicide*
[06:01] <AlonzoTG> anyway, I know what to google now.
[06:01] <AlonzoTG> average xterms open at any given time: 8.
[06:02] <AlonzoTG> look, I've been using Gentoo for 11 years,
[06:02] <daftykins> average bs per line typed: 100%
[06:02] <AlonzoTG> I'm not going to switch distros just because of Steam.
[06:02] <somsip> !ignore | daftykins
[06:02] <daftykins> g'night my fellow helpers
[06:02] <somsip> daftykins: bye :)
[06:03] <EriC^^> daftykins: nighty night
[06:03] <AlonzoTG> I do have ubuntu on my laptop but it's a crappy eeepc that doesn't even support PAE so I can't do jack with it these days.
[06:03] <cricketfart> OerHeks I thought you might know a bit about Wine from your response..  I wondered if you might know why I can't use ALT or CTRL in Wine programs?  ALT opens up the Unity Dash and CTRL has no effects
[06:03] <AlonzoTG> It's great as a little helper device to ssh into the back end of my main pc and kick it when X freezes up.
[06:03] <cricketfart> daftykins night
[06:05] <OerHeks> cricketfart, i don't use wine.
[06:05] <OerHeks> !wine
[06:05] <xangua> cricketfart: what opens with Alt it's actually called HUD, did you try to keep alt pressed for more than half a second¿
[06:06] <bmelcher84> http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/50
[06:06] <cricketfart> xangua Yes I did.  It caused the HUD to rapidly open and close
[06:07] <bmelcher84> xangua: ^^
[06:08] <Scooty-loo> don't think about wine and games unless games uses opengl
[06:08] <Scooty-loo> use*
[06:09] <Scooty-loo> there's still no way to do directx as efficient as on windows
[06:09] <charlesay> how can I go about fixing my display manager/DE, which at the moment doesn't start?
[06:10] <cricketfart> Ugghhhh  I'm trying to print the specs about my Nvidia driver..  Earlier daftykins told me how to do it, something along the lines of grep nvidia..  does anyone know what I'm even talking about?4
[06:12] <daftykins> dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[06:12] <cricketfart> daftykins man you sleep fast, thanks hah
[06:12] <daftykins> only just got in bed \o/
[06:12] <daftykins> o/
[06:13] <cricketfart> haha
[06:15] <kalia> b
[06:15] <kalia> hi
[06:16] <bmelcher84> i got one for you guys. Installed the gnome shell without thinking so i uninstalled it and installed the gnome session fallback. Now when starting the Xserver, i get a black screen. I feel its still trying to run the ubuntu desktop. I should restart and see what happens, but I figured as lazy as I am that I would type all of this first
[06:16] <bmelcher84> i got one for you guys. Installed the gnome shell without thinking so i uninstalled it and installed the gnome session fallback. Now when starting the Xserver, i get a black screen.
[06:17] <bmelcher84> are my messsages going through? it keeps saying flood protection
[06:18] <linuxuz3r> yes i can read your message
[06:18] <bmelcher84> ah
[06:21] <cricketfart> I can't get ALT or CTRL to work in Wine applications.  ALT makes the Ubuntu Dash open up and CTRL literally does nothing.  Does anyone know what I can do to fix this? Lenovo Ideapad P580  Intel I7 - 3520, Nvidia GT630M NVIDIA binary driver version 331.113 from nvidia-331 (Proprietary, Tested) http://paste.ubuntu.com/10199729/
[06:23] <jayjo> I'm having a problem with python on my machine- I can access system variables that I put into /etc/profile.d/myvar.sh so they are there even on reboot. If I run echo $MY_VAR it prints it out, but when python is run from www-data it shows up as nothing. ]
[06:26] <cricketfart> AlonzoTG, Hey can you explain this to me
[06:26] <cricketfart> * cricketfart sets mode +i cricketfart
[06:26] <cricketfart> * [AlonzoTG] (~atg@pool-72-66-104-220.washdc.fios.verizon.net): Alan Grimes
[06:26] <cricketfart> * [AlonzoTG] #ubuntu
[06:26] <cricketfart> * [AlonzoTG] rajaniemi.freenode.net :Helsinki, FI, EU
[06:26] <cricketfart> * [AlonzoTG] idle 00:00:01, signon: Thu Feb 12 17:57:54
[06:26] <cricketfart> * [AlonzoTG] is logged in as AlonzoTG
[06:32] <articulas> to many system msgs
[06:33] <articulas> Hello
[06:34] <SamHyde> hah can't believe my psychiatrist pays for this software on win http://i.imgur.com/WXDW1QF.png
[06:34] <SamHyde> it's just your run of the mill daatabase.. even left filemaker pro in the app title..
[06:34] <SamHyde> im sure i can get something just as good natively on linux, and make it free and open source, esp since i studied psychiatry
[06:34] <SamHyde> just need to learn database now..
[06:35] <cricketfart> SamHyde what's this have to do with Ubuntu help?
[06:35] <SamHyde> Is this only a help channel? No chatting?
[06:35] <cricketfart> That is correct
[06:35] <SamHyde> That is correct, sigmund! Alright, SS.
[06:36] <cricketfart> Oh clever lol
[06:37] <SamHyde> Hey, no commentary.
[06:37] <SamHyde> Does anyone have a question regarding Ubuntu?
[06:44] <jishjish> hi all, do ubuntu offer a i386 version of a minimal ubuntu installation for 32bit?
[06:48] <charlesay> how would one put a linux iso on a dvd from the command line?
[06:48] <OerHeks> jishjish, sure, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[06:50] <jishjish> OerHeks:yes, I've been there, hence I am here asking "is there a i386 supported version of the minimal download?
[06:51] <OerHeks> charlesay, sudo dd if=/path/to/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdX ( where sdX is your usb device sda/sdb/sdc ..)
[06:51] <charlesay> OerHeks: thanks, wasn't sure dd worked with optical media (not sure why I thought so, though.)
[06:51] <OerHeks> jishjish, yes, 12.04 or 14.04 or 14.10 are supported
[06:51] <cricketfart> jishjish Yes there is
[06:53] <OerHeks> charlesay, sorry, dvd should not be dd'd.
[06:53] <OerHeks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/174626/how-do-i-burn-a-dvd-iso-using-the-terminal
[06:54] <jishjish> OerHeks: cricketfart can you point me to an exact link, I can't find it?
[06:54] <jishjish> please*
[06:55] <ctrl-all> can someone tell me why i cant to enter BIOS on mu new samsung np300e5a
[06:55] <OerHeks> jishjish, you have been there .. http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[06:56] <cricketfart> Hey how do I use X11 forwarding from one ubuntu machine to another over SSH
[06:57] <aeon-ltd> cricketfart: iirc isn't it -X , imma google to check now
[06:57] <aeon-ltd> cricketfart: it is but some work is needed apparently http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/12755/how-to-forward-x-over-ssh-from-ubuntu-machine
[06:57] <cricketfart> aeon-ltd, Firefox -X outputs Error: No display specified
[06:58] <phix> ok i fixes it, the correct answer was sudo dpkg-reconfigure initramfs-tools
[06:59] <aeon-ltd> cricketfart: did you read the top answer in the link?
[06:59] <phix> thnx for the attempt though
[07:00] <jishjish> thanks OerHeks are there system requirements for the minimalist distros?
[07:03] <OerHeks> jishjish, no, you can install any desktop
[07:04] <jishjish> so they are designed to support as many low powered desktop as possible.
[07:05] <cricketfart> Yes the steps have been followed now, I get the same error.  X11 forwarding = yes
[07:05] <OerHeks> jishjish, that would be Lubuntu lxde i guess
[07:06] <OerHeks> i386/256 mb/6gb hdd
[07:06] <charlesay> and how would I pass the content of a file as an argument for i.e. wget?
[07:11] <cricketfart> aeon-ltd, I followed the instructions in that link.  It still tells me that "no display specified"
[07:12] <charlesay> never mind, figured it out (probably not most straightforward way)
[07:16] <anon> HI
[07:16] <Guest18403> How to install flash player
[07:16] <Guest18403> ???
[07:16] <ubik_> Which browser, anon?
[07:17] <Guest18403> blackubuntu
[07:19] <cricketfart> !gpt
[07:20] <nolics> so
[07:25] <cricketfart> Is it possible to open a terminal from firefox browser bar?
[07:26] <cricketfart> or could I run ifconfig right in the browser bar in firefox on Ubuntu?
[07:26] <NikolaiToryzin> Nope
[07:27] <NikolaiToryzin> That would be insecure
[07:27] <cricketfart> Yeah I guess it would be lol.
[07:53] <amitprakash> How do I list all the libraries available to link for a gcc program ?
[07:55] <adangladman> you can use ld
[08:00] <aeon-ltd>  /j windows
[08:02] <larsmw> Hi, I have a hp z-book with a FireGL graphics card. Now when I have installed the properitaery fglrx-updates driver, the external monitor is "gone". If I run with the xserver-xorg-video-ati driver, I can use the external monitor, but the screen is not refreshed properly there!? What to do? :)
[08:03] <g3ky> amitprakash, ldd
[08:10] <larsmw> (EE) Screen 1 deleted because of no matching config section. ??
[08:20] <amitprakash> g3ky, ldd just throws me back to usage
[08:22] <g3ky> ldd <program name>
[08:22] <amitprakash> g3ky, um.. I am trying to figure out the command I need to pass to -lLIBNAME
[08:22] <svetlana> "write a proper makefile"
[08:22] <amitprakash> for example, if I want to link against libboost_iostreams.so.1.54.0
[08:23] <svetlana> just -llibboost ?
[08:23] <amitprakash>  /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -llibboost
[08:23] <ikonia> ld is taking the name as "-llibbost"
[08:23] <ikonia> that is not the name
[08:23] <svetlana> odd
[08:26] <obidum> ciao
[08:26] <g3ky> amitprakash, where is libboost_iostreams.so.1.54.0 located?
[08:27] <g3ky> Also, paste here the command you use that gives you that error.
[08:27] <amitprakash> ikonia, svetlana  g++ ../lr.cpp -I/usr/include/boost/ -llibboost_iostreams
[08:27] <obidum> amit
[08:27] <ikonia> that is not a make file
[08:27] <amitprakash> also /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libboost_iostreams.so
[08:28] <ikonia> he's trying to write a makefile
[08:28] <amitprakash> ikonia, no. I am trying to write one
[08:28] <ikonia> I suggest reading some tutorials
[08:28] <amitprakash> more importanly, I want to compile the program and see if it works at all
[08:29] <amitprakash> that lib is extra!  g++ ../lr.cpp -I/usr/include/boost/ -lboost_iostreams works !
[08:29] <bazhang> amitprakash, compile what? pandora?
[08:30] <amitprakash> bazhang, no, a hello world app
[08:32] <alexisss> guten morgen
[08:33] <g3ky> Replace I with L and try.
[08:34] <g3ky> -I to -L
[08:34] <amitprakash> g3ky, already resolved, removed the lib from -llibboost_iostreams
[08:36] <Rubass> Hello all! I was wondering if it is possible to insert json data into a shell command, example: node app.js -data={jsondata}
[08:40] <svartes> hi
[08:40] <Rubass> Wow this channel is quite, hi svartes
[08:40] <somsip> !quiet
[08:40] <Rubass> quiet*
[08:40] <somsip> !night
[08:41] <somsip> Rubass: not a correction - trying to trigger the bot
[08:42] <Rubass> somsip: but I corrected myself :) But yeah it is true :p I normally join this channel in the night in my country :)
[08:42] <Rubass> but now it is kinda morning :)
[08:49] <life> hi
[08:49] <user_> hi
[08:49] <Rubass> hi
[08:51] <svetlana> hi
[08:52] <life> rgsg
[08:52] <life> af
[08:52] <life> sf
[08:52] <life> sf
[08:52] <life> sef
[08:52] <life> f
[08:52] <life> sef
[08:52] <svetlana> life, hi.
[08:52] <svetlana> life, wait a minute and then ask your question.
[08:53] <life> (>.<)
[08:53] <svetlana> life, yeah, works now.
[08:56] <h0use> #hacking
[08:57] <svetlana> Rubass: hi.
[08:57] <arquimides> hi
[08:58] <svetlana> Rubass: how are you obtaining the json data and where are you putting it?
[08:58] <svetlana> hi, arquimides.
[09:00] <Rubass> svetlana: I am obtaning it through a POST request as raw jsondata
[09:04] <utopia> hello dear people....
[09:04] <utopia> someone could help me with a wifi Issue in Ubuntu 14.10????????????????????
[09:05] <Rubass> svetlana: My app.js gets data points (to make a plot-graph) which looks like this: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/de18c5b938745a6a88ce this data supposed be generated through a post request, but currently I am making a file.json but would like to be parse it directly instead. :)
[09:05] <cfhowlett> !ask | utopia
[09:05] <Rubass> directly into a argument
[09:05] <lost_and_unfound> Greetings, I am running Ubuntu 14.04, I recently purchased a TPLINK (TL-WM823N) USB WiFi dongle. The device is working and I can see various wifi networks and connect to them. However, some of the wifi networks I need to connect to does not show up in Network Manager or even "iwlist wlan0 scanning". Any suggestions? Thanks
[09:05] <utopia> ok... thanks
[09:06] <somsip> Rubass: call the API directly. JS handles json as objects so you're just making it difficult for yourself. And this question belongs in a JS channel, so I won't help any more
[09:06] <svetlana> Rubass: yeah, I think shell script can receive data only from a file (a regular file, stdin, or a named pipe). I may be missing something though.
[09:07] <ekarlso> so what, ubuntu has switched to selinux vs apparmor ?
[09:07] <Rubass> Hi lost_and_unfound, it might be because the wifi dongle only accepts some WiFi Protocols, and those networks you are trying to connect uses a newer protocol / or older.
[09:07] <utopia> when i restar my notebook or after got sleep, and functioning again, i loose my wifi connection, that means internet connection is no more availaible, i always need to restart my Router and also my computer everytime... someone knows what happen.
[09:07] <Rubass> somsip: thanks for your help :) I'll ask in a JS channel instead.
[09:08] <lost_and_unfound> Rubass: would the WiFI protocols be software or firmware related?
[09:10] <Rubass> lost_and_unfound: I think it is more hardware related, but most routers (or WiFi networks) have the the functionality to use a older protocol - this ofc, have its disadvantages.
[09:10] <Rubass> s/ofc/ of course*
[09:10] <Rubass> lost_and_unfound: software related*
[09:10] <damian_> potrzebuje pomocy w konfiguracji tabletu wacom bamboo na ubuntu studio
[09:10] <Rubass> !polish | damian_
[09:10] <svetlana> damian_: hi.
[09:10] <svetlana> damian_: try #ubuntu-ru .
[09:10] <Rubass> sorry :p
[09:11] <damian_> ok
[09:11] <svetlana> spasibo :)
[09:11] <damian_> wybaczone
[09:11] <Rubass> lost_and_unfound: older protocols, might be slower
[09:11] <lost_and_unfound> Rubass: I just checked, the device supports b/g/n protocols and confirmed with IT the AP's have support for said protocols. Will dig around a bit more. Thanks
[09:13] <Rubass> svetlana: thank you, I will take my problem in a js channel :)
[09:13] <svetlana> gl
[09:13] <Rubass> ty
[09:24] <hamed>  i installed ubuntu accidentally on my ntfs partition (2 ntfs + 1 ext4 partition which ubuntu installation showed all as one ntfs partition) after installation (which ended up in grub-installer error) , i saw those three partition are shown as one ext4 which ubuntu files were  partially on it. i used testdisk to recover lost ntfs partitions using "deeper search" option, here's the result after deep search: http://pastebin.com/cTAmn8Vw  is there any hope
[09:24] <hamed> ?
[09:24] <cfhowlett> hamed, you installed over the partition, i.e. the info on that partition is now overwritten.
[09:25] <hamed> cfhowlett: so no way at all?
[09:26] <cfhowlett> hamed, you WROTE OVER IT = gone.  reinstall windows
[09:26] <hamed> cfhowlett: photorec could spot files but the problem with that is that it can't recover directory list so i'll only have files all in one directory
[09:27] <cfhowlett> hamed, try it then.
[09:31] <gvijai> can someone help me on this ?
[09:31] <gvijai> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10201835/
[09:35] <endios> \connect
[09:35] <theptr> gvijai, when dit the error start ? because i had that error years ago and i didnt know what it was i did a clean install
[09:35] <endios> #rrr
[09:37] <OpenSorce> 14.04 fresh install running lxde from the repos. On restart I have to log out and back in twice to get fonts and mouse cursor back to the right sizes. Any help?
[09:37] <gvijai> well, this happend after I did dist-upgrade from 14.x to 14.10
[09:37] <gvijai> theptr,  well, this happend after I did dist-upgrade from 14.x to 14.10
[09:37] <paperoga> ciao
[09:37] <paperoga> !list
[09:37] <gvijai> theptr, I don't want to reinstall the os
[09:37] <theptr> gvijai, could it be that you interupted the process
[09:38] <gvijai> nope
[09:38] <theptr> gvijai, mmmm strange
[09:38] <gvijai> theptr, I didn't interupt the process .
[09:39] <gvijai> theptr, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10201897/
[09:39] <theptr> gvijai, i really dont have a clue how to fix that error i fix sometimes packages with dpkg ... dont think i can help you ... to be onnest
[09:39] <gvijai> you can see just the udev package is not fully instaled .
[09:39] <cfhowlett> gvijai, no one WANTS to reinstall, but if that's the only fix ... deal with it.
[09:39] <gvijai> theptr, not a problem .
[09:39] <theptr> cfhowlett, +1
[09:40] <gvijai> cfhowlett, sure. but I want to check this can be fixed or not. if not I will reinstall :-)
[09:40] <cfhowlett> gvijai, try this: purge the broken package then reinstall it
[09:40] <gvijai> cfhowlett, sure. I will try now.
[09:41] <theptr> gvijai, or you kan try dpkg-reconfigure maybe
[09:42] <gvijai> root@RaGhar:/var/cache/apt/archives# dpkg-reconfigure udev
[09:42] <gvijai> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: udev is broken or not fully installed
[09:44] <gvijai> theptr, I tried that, but showing udev is broken
[09:44] <theptr> gvijai, mmm reconfigure is not an option then
[09:45] <theptr> gvijai, what says google ?
[09:46] <gvijai> I tried all the options in google .
[09:46] <gvijai> theptr, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2187724&page=8
[09:46] <gvijai> theptr, the link is near to my issue ,but for older version.
[09:47] <gvijai> I tried that but still having issue.
[09:47] <theptr> gvijai, try sudo apt-get install -f
[09:47] <gvijai> theptr, still same issue on pre and post install issue
[09:48] <pauled> hi what is the "official" recommended hardware to run ubuntu? (ram)
[09:48] <gvijai> theptr, and dpkg-reconfigure errors .
[09:48] <theptr> gvijai, then i think clean install would be the best idea
[09:49] <gvijai> theptr, sure, I have posted in ubuntu forums , I will wait for 1 -2 days before re-install 14.10
[09:49] <gvijai> theptr, thanks a lot .
[09:49] <theptr> gvijai, ok i hope someone can help you
[09:49] <theptr> gvijai, no problem
[09:59] <pokiwo> hello there, is there a key combination (shortcut) to copy hyperlinks in a selection, too?
[10:00] <hamed> pokiwo: what do you mean?
[10:02] <pokiwo> hamed, I mean that i.e. you have to copy-paste a text with hyperlinks in it. you want that these links would be preserved in the pasted text. however with (ctrl+c and ctrl+v) you dont get the links but just the text pasted. Is there a key combination that retains the links in the text while copy-pasting?
[10:18] <svetlana> pokiwo: there is no single standard format for rich text with hyperlinks. when you copy from a browser into a word processor, it usually pastes with hyperlinks, for example.
[10:18] <svetlana> pokiwo: in your case, where are you copying from, and where are you pasting to?
[10:24] <DReynolds> Hey all, hoping someone can help. Ive installed Mono through the official mono repo (http://www.mono-project.com/docs/getting-started/install/linux/#debian-ubuntu-and-derivatives) and am trying to use a program called spacedock. I'm getting the error /usr/local/bin/mono not found because mono is installed in /usr/bin/mono ... is there an easy way to fix this?
[10:25] <svetlana> i would ask the spacedock maintainers about it.
[10:26] <pokiwo> svetlana, the text in question is meant to be shared, i.e. in social nets. I am not sure what is good practice for sharing, some (or maybe most) such environments may not offer links to be clickable. or on the other side, I dont know how often they are responsive to pasting code version of the text.
[10:30] <pokiwo> svetlana, as for your question, it will be pasted from a website to wherever on the net
[10:35] <svetlana> pokiwo: with most social sites you can't do a thing because the website operators hardcoded a plain text box there.
[10:35] <svetlana> pokiwo: ask gnu social project to start supporting rich text box, maybe they will do it.
[10:35] <lucido> hi, I have a matrox p69 pcie card that doesn't show up in lspci but the bios detects it, how is that possible?
[10:36] <aeon-ltd> lucido: does anyhing show up but unidentified?
[10:37] <pokiwo> svetlana, yes, I can do that..so in that case html code wouldnt work, either..why then does everyone add codes for people to share by copy-pasting?
[10:37] <guite> hi everyone, I was wondering if there is a way to run an app with optirun (bumblebee) without opening a shell and entering “optirun my_app”
[10:38] <guite> In fact I’d like optirun to be used for everything… and no, prime-select does not work so far, nvidia drivers seem a big issue for the moment…
[10:39] <aeon-ltd> guite: if you can modify the launcher to include optirun as a prefix that would kinda work
[10:40] <guite> aeon-ltd: OK, but I don’t know how to do so…
[10:40] <aeon-ltd> guite: depends what you normally use to launch stuff
[10:40] <guite> aeon-ltd: I kept unity
[10:41] <guite> aeon-ltd: so I use the unity launcher
[10:41] <aeon-ltd> yeahh i don't use that, right click on a dock item can you alter it?
[10:42] <guite> aeon-ltd: no, it doesn’t look like I can do so…
[10:43] <guite> this thing might help http://askubuntu.com/questions/160374/how-do-i-change-the-launcher-commands but I don’t get it at the moment…
[10:43] <aeon-ltd> well..... anyone here know how to edit the application path in unity
[10:43] <svetlana> pokiwo: I don't know. web browsers support copying rich text, but when you share a pile of text on a social network it's usually plain text and you're expected to paste raw links (which would then become clickable).  -- stackoverflow is a social site which is an exception; you can type out markup in comments and messages and make links there. but I've rarely seen such markup being possible...
[10:44] <svetlana> ...to *copy* from one message there to another one just by making a selection.  browsers only see html and only copy that, and oddly most websites don't rely on browser html editing features.
[10:44] <svetlana> pokiwo: a part of it is that relying on such features, while conceptually attractive, would make webmasters deal with inconsistent behaviour of different browsers.
[10:45] <aeon-ltd> guite: what part don't you get?
[10:45] <guite> aeon-ltd: in fact, there’s a way to edit shortcuts in /usr/share/applications, looks it does the work :)
[10:45] <guite> aeon-ltd: the first part was not clear, the “alacarte” stuff…
[10:45] <guite> aeon-ltd: but modifying shortcuts is fine :)
[10:45] <aeon-ltd> ok
[10:45] <guite> aeon-ltd: thanks
[10:45] <aeon-ltd> no problem, though i didn't do much
[10:46] <guite> well, if there is a way to add the prefix for all application without changing the shortcut for each, it would be great… but I think I’m dreaming :)
[10:47] <pokiwo> svetlana, thank you for this detailed information, I think then I'd be better off just pasting the raw link
[10:48] <aeon-ltd> guite: i imagine there are things you wouldn't need or want to optirun to run with
[10:50] <lucido> aeon-ltd, lspci: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10202738/
[10:56] <nik08_> Hi! I am facing some problem with apt-get file and could not download system dependencies for the required module
[10:57] <nik08_> sorry!!! i will repeat
[10:57] <nik08_> having some problem with apt-get
[10:57] <nik08_> couldnot install system dependencies
[10:57] <nik08_> could somebody help?
[11:00] <gvijai> nik08_, can you paste the output in pastebin please .
[11:16] <Luckycat> hi
[11:17] <moppers_> Hi! i've backup up abn ubuntu OS with rsync. How do I make it bootable?
[11:17] <bd_> 1
[11:19] <fellipe> hi. I am trying hard to install google earth in xubuntu 14.04 bu it depends on ia32-libs and I've googled a lot but I couldn't make it.  Please, help
[11:20] <moppers_> fellipe: Use the 32 bit google earth package instead?
[11:20] <bd_> hello everyone, i have a problem here to resolve, and i will need help, I will copy the error below
[11:20] <bd_> Traceback (most recent call last):
[11:20] <bd_>   File "/usr/local/bin/ryu", line 5, in <module>
[11:20] <bd_>     from pkg_resources import load_entry_point
[11:20] <bd_>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/pkg_resources.py", line 2749, in <module>
[11:20] <bd_>     working_set = WorkingSet._build_master()
[11:20] <fellipe> moppers_:  hi. I tried it too
[11:20] <moppers_> bd_: Can you use a pastebin?
[11:22] <fellipe> moppers_:  when I tried it, I get "package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)"
[11:23] <bd_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10203109/plain/
[11:23] <moppers_> fellipe: Looking @ google earth's docs, they say it needs the 32bit package and multiarch
[11:24] <moppers_> bd_: it wants me to login to read that. No idea why.
[11:25] <fellipe> moppers_:  sure, but I cannot find the multiarch download
[11:26] <fellipe> moppers_:  oh, I've just ran dpkg --add-architecture i386 and it worked
[11:29] <bd_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10203109/plain/
[11:29] <bd_> pls i need help in resolving this problem
[11:30] <bd_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10203109/plain/
[11:30] <moppers_> bd_: I cant read your paste as it needs a login for ubuntu one
[11:31] <svetlana> i run an xrdp server. what client may i use?
[11:32] <tomodachi> svetlana: any client that uses the remote desktop protocol
[11:32] <tomodachi> such as rdesktop remmina
[11:32] <tomodachi> etc
[11:32] <svetlana> ok
[11:32] <cplll> hi all - im running squid3 but still can't seem to get it working. Squid3 wont start now, ive refined the config file and can't seem to figure out why it wont start.. heres the config - http://pastebin.com/mGKJgunk
[11:32] <mtreanor> hi all, i'm wondering if someone can help out, ive got a lacie nas drive thats about 10 years, I was 90% sure i backed it up as it was failing and becoming loose, its in ext2 linux format and manage to mount it in a virtual os of ubuntu but to use meld diff to compare volumes of data I get permission issues, the backup volume is a hfs journaled drive, but if I "Sudo Nautilus" I can view the data but meld diff app won't. any sug
[11:33] <tomodachi> cplll: what error message do you get?
[11:33] <cplll> tomodachi: 'Job failed to start' after service squid3 restart
[11:34] <cplll> tomodachi: found a small typo in the config, corrected but still same.
[11:34] <tomodachi> cplll: you checked your syslog as well?
[11:34] <gvijai> tail -f /var/log/syslog please cplll
[11:34] <mtreanor> is it worth putting the data onto a linux drive once readable to simply use meld diff to see differences?
[11:35] <gvijai> or grep "squid" /var/log/syslog .
[11:35] <cplll> gvijai: stby
[11:35] <beedee> pls can someone pls help
[11:36] <beedee> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10203109/plain/
[11:36] <royalaxe> hello all :)
[11:36] <pwnor> hello all :)
[11:37] <gvijai> cplll, please use "squid -k parse" to verify your config file first .
[11:39] <beedee> @gvijai is that for me
[11:39] <k1l> beedee: did you change anything on python?
[11:39] <gvijai> beedee, I didn't check your pastebin yet .
[11:40] <beedee> ok
[11:40] <beedee> no
[11:41] <OerHeks> beedee, what is your question? that pastebin is just an error, from what?
[11:42] <gvijai> beedee, what your were running ?
[11:42] <beedee> ubuntu 14.04
[11:43] <mtreanor> anyone offer insight with running diff on a hfs to ext2 file system?
[11:43] <beedee> its complaning about package
[11:43] <beedee>  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/pkg_resources.py", line 2749, in <module>
[11:43] <beedee> that is just one line from the error
[11:43] <cfhowlett> mtreanor, ext2?  current default is ext4.  ext2 was deprecated quite some time ago.
[11:44] <beedee> also on line 446, 459 and 628
[11:45] <beedee> hello
[11:45] <beedee> am waiting
[11:45] <mtreanor>  @cfhowlett its actually an xfs file system from a mini lacie nas drive, when I was looking at this drive in encase forensic software it was saying it was ext2 sorry, in ubuntu its saying its xfs
[11:46] <gvijai> beedee,  https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCMQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fbeeyeas.blogspot.com%2F2014%2F07%2Fryu-sdn-framework-installation.html&ei=kuPdVIPCL8SLuASb74D4Ag&usg=AFQjCNExH--lkbcDjQASkAez8rGw7TEqeg
[11:46] <OerHeks> beedee, we too, what are you running when you get those errors?
[11:46] <cfhowlett> mtreanor, ... OK, I understood ... a few words of that.
[11:46] <OerHeks> !details | beedee
[11:46] <cfhowlett> www.tinyurl.com      gvijai please.
[11:46] <gvijai> cfhowlett, sorry.
[11:46] <cfhowlett> gvijai, not to worry.
[11:47] <mtreanor> @cfhowlett I can read the data on the xfs system and I could manually compare data but wanted to use a diff command between volumes to see what was missing, but naturally the hfs file system won't have permission to read data unless in sudo
[11:47] <gvijai> beedee, http://tinyurl.com/n94ht5v
[11:48] <beedee> @gvijai, let use the solution you post now
[11:50] <bb> squid3 now starts but still getting access denied from an IP on 172.27.232.0/21 subnet -- my squid config is here; http://pastebin.com/mGKJgunk
[11:50] <Mishari> Hello everyone.
[11:50] <gvijai> bb, did you allow the subnet ?
[11:50] <gvijai> bb, in the config file ?
[11:51] <moppers_> looking at beedee's pastebin, why is paste.ubuntu com asking me to login to ubunutone? Is something broken at my side?
[11:51] <bb> gvijai: acl vpn src 172.27.232.0/21
[11:51] <OerHeks> moppers_, no, happened here too
[11:51] <bb> gvijai: and http_access allow vpn
[11:52] <bb> all before 'http_access deny all'
[11:52] <gvijai> bb, let me see
[11:52] <moppers_> OerHeks: Thanks
[11:52] <bb> gvijai: thanks for your help
[11:53] <gvijai> bb, what's your ip ?
[11:53] <OerHeks> moppers_, i think it is a protection against pastebin harvest bots, in /plain/ text it is easy to copy
[11:53] <bb> gvijai: on the vpn - 172.272.232.4
[11:54] <Mishari> sorry guys but, excuse me if my question is silly lol, but how to connect my work PC to home PC, while the work pc is windows and I'm using ubuntu at home.
[11:54] <moppers_> Mishari: Define connect
[11:54] <Mishari> But the work PC has no server, also here.
[11:54] <gvijai> bb, have you set your browse proxy to squid ip and 3128 port ?
[11:55] <bb> gvijai: browser is set, yes and 3128
[11:55] <Mishari> moppers_,  how to define ?
[11:55] <bb> gvijai: i'm getting the squid 'access denied page'
[11:55] <moppers_> Mishari: 'connect' what? share files? stream video?
[11:55] <bb> gvijai: so there must be some sort of connection..
[11:55] <Mishari> well, do all things.
[11:55] <gvijai> bb, can you do "nc -zv squid-ip 3128"
[11:56] <bb> gvijai: from the client
[11:56] <bb> ?
[11:56] <gvijai> bb, yes
[11:56] <bb> gvijai,ill get dc'd as i have to connect to vpn brb
[11:56] <moppers_> Mishari: You'll need some kind of internet connection between them, do you know if it will be OK'ed by your office IT dept? You'll need to go through their firewall likely
[11:57] <Mishari> aha.
[11:57] <Mishari> Thanks moppers_ :D
[11:57] <moppers_> Mishari: If you just want to share files you could put them on dropbox
[11:57] <k1l> Mishari: do you know what program you would use on windows to windows?
[11:57] <Mishari> exactly.
[11:57] <Mishari> like teamviewer k1l.
[11:57] <beedee> my problem is not yet solved
[11:57] <moppers_> Mishari: This is why I still need you to define 'connect' :)
[11:57] <k1l> Mishari: so use teamviewer on ubuntu
[11:58] <Mishari> I thought that only in windows.
[11:58] <beedee> hello
[11:58] <bb> gvijai: yeah all good
[11:58] <bb> gvijai: http_access allow vpn
[11:58] <beedee> still encounter the same problem
[11:58] <bb> gvijai: oops, connection succeeded
[11:59] <moppers_> Why do i bother? howe does "do everything?" become "I only need ot use teamviewer"? :-)
[11:59] <beedee> pls i really need help on this error on python
[11:59] <gvijai> bb, it looks like the order in the config file .
[11:59] <moppers_> It#s probably me, I am probably not asking the right questions.
[11:59] <gvijai> bb, we may need to check the config file once again.
[12:00] <Mishari> moppers_,  because sometimes I have to go there to finish tasks, while I have a solution to finish it at home. :D
[12:00] <tomodachi> moppers_: what was the question?
[12:00] <k1l> beedee: did you read http://beeyeas.blogspot.de/2014/07/ryu-sdn-framework-installation.html
[12:00] <bb> gvijai: how do I change the config to only listen on a particular interface rather than its public IP?
[12:00] <k1l> beedee: make sure you have all the stuff installed ryu wants to use
[12:01] <beedee> k1l yes
[12:01] <Mishari> moppers_, k1l  I appreciate your help, thanks.
[12:01] <bb> gvijai: like its listening on interface venet0:0 which is a public IP, i want squid3 to listen only on as0t1-00 (VPN interface)
[12:02] <beedee> i have all
[12:02] <gvijai> bb, http://www.squid-cache.org/Doc/config/http_port/
[12:02] <bb> gvijai: heres the config file... http://pastebin.com/mGKJgunk
[12:03] <k1l> beedee: what command does give the error?
[12:03] <bb> gvijai: thats for the port? not interface?
[12:03] <beedee> k1l ryu
[12:04] <bb> gvijai: ahh http_port IP PORT ?
[12:04] <beedee> whn i run what is on the link posted above , it says i have the same version of the easy pip
[12:04] <gvijai> bb, http_port 1.2.3.4:3128
[12:04] <bb>  http_port IP:PORT yep
[12:04] <k1l> then ask the ryu people
[12:04] <k1l> this is clearly a ryu issue
[12:04] <gvijai> bb, put your internal ip in it and restart
[12:05] <moppers_> looks like it or the user are mixing pip with easyinstall
[12:05] <bb> gvijai: looks like can't do it with icp_port IP:PORT ?
[12:06] <bb> gvijai: 'invalid value, is supposed to be a number'
[12:06] <Mishari> moppers_, excuse me sir, but what is your interests in the computing life ?
[12:06] <gvijai> bb, that's only for http_port, I didn't provide for icp
[12:06] <gvijai> let me check .
[12:06] <bb> gvijai: squid3 -k parse doesnt seem to agree with it eh..
[12:07] <k1l> imho that link provided will solve the issue. but i cant see if its a user failure or a program failure. so the ryu guys should look into this
[12:07] <gvijai> bb, icp is for peer cache .
[12:07] <bb> gvijai: roger.. ok so changed the config and that looks ok, should i try see if im still getting denied?
[12:08] <gvijai> bb, can you paste squid log file tail please .
[12:12] <gvijai> bb, I want see the log file for which access denied happening and it's ip address .
[12:17] <geirha> ivan_on_trac doesn't seem all that on track. Maybe someone should gently guide him over to ##fix_your_connection ...
[12:21] <mysupper> hello
[12:23] <mysupper> http://ubuntu.aspcode.net/view/635400140124705175445566/sudo-service-lightdm-stop-will-go-into-a-blank-screen
[12:23] <mysupper> I have this phenomeno too. :(
[12:25] <OerHeks> mysupper, sure that normal, go to ctrl alt F2, login, then stop lightdm, and do what you need to do.
[12:25] <mysupper> k.
[12:25] <OerHeks> mysupper, after that, start lightdm and ctrl alt F7 to return to gui,
[12:26] <mysupper> still blank screen after ctrl-alt-f1!6
[12:26] <pauled> Hi guys, want to benchmark apt-get update: sudo echo "Start bench" && time (sudo apt-get update && yes n | sudo apt-get upgrade)
[12:27] <beedee> hello
[12:27] <beedee> ntw was off before
[12:28] <mysupper> I guess this is a bug. ;(
[12:29] <OerHeks> mysupper, F1 ???
[12:29] <mysupper> I should upgrade system and check this again.
[12:29] <mysupper> yes this is just bug.
[12:29] <OerHeks> mysupper, if you press ctrl alt f1 - f6 in 2 seconds, tty has no time to react, i said ctrl alt f2
[12:29] <mysupper> that too..just blank screen.
[12:30] <mysupper> I'm building nvidia driver now.
[12:30] <mysupper> dep mod now..hehe
[12:30] <mysupper> DKMS: install completed.
[12:30] <mysupper> this is so simple and easy.
[12:34] <beedee> having problem with this
[12:34] <beedee>  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/pkg_resources.py", line 2749, in <module>
 also line 446, 459, 628
[12:35] <k1l> beedee: that is not a single problem. see the link you were given now 2 times already
[12:35] <Seveas> beedee: pastebin the command you ran and its  full output please.
[12:35] <k1l> beedee: make sure you got the requirements installed
[12:37] <Seveas> ah, found the pastebin link. You installed this 'ryu' thing the wrong wy. Remove it and use pip to install it
[12:40] <mysupper> hello gain.
[12:40] <beedee> k1l i just run ryu
[12:41] <mysupper> around Nvidia driver , I wonder why ubuntu distributors not fixing major bugs.
[12:41] <beedee> i think its the ubuntu python error or something bcos i saw another complain on net about the same error with someone running anoda application using virtually
[12:42] <OerHeks> mysupper, ubuntu does not fix nvidia drivers, nvidia does.
[12:42] <beedee> @k1l hope you get my response
[12:42] <mysupper> ubunt latest release , I'm using 14.02) still don't fixing no terminal screen after killing lightdm.
[12:42] <mysupper> No. this is definitely ubuntu bug.
[12:43] <mysupper> after kernel booted, if there's no supportable plain screen driver, if some one kill lightdm, there should be no screen outpu.
[12:43] <OerHeks> mysupper, no, why? if lightdm stops, nvidia driver stops, you had to go into ctrl alt f2 first.
[12:43] <mysupper> output.
[12:43] <mysupper> So, unbuntu distributors should prepare for that.
[12:43] <mysupper> But they are definitively not fixing.
[12:44] <OerHeks> mysupper, sorry to tell you, there is nothing to fix, it is user error.
[12:44] <mysupper> Anyway , I fixed on my own, using rebuilding driver. and my screen is flying now.
[12:44] <mysupper> never.
[12:44] <mysupper> It's distributor's error.
[12:45] <mysupper> and it's basically ridiculous.
[12:45] <mysupper> Now, I should try multilanguage settings.
[12:47] <cfhowlett> PEBKAS
[12:48]  * OerHeks wonders am i missing something?
[12:49] <geirha> problem exists between keyboard and sofa?
[12:49] <mysupper> nope
[12:49] <cfhowlett> screen?  did I misstate?
[12:50] <mysupper> I can exactly explained already. ubuntu distributor's error. that's all.
[12:50] <cfhowlett> mysupper, time to move on.
[12:50] <mysupper> k
[12:53] <k1l> beedee: please show the whole command you use with output in a pastebin. and how did you install ryu?
[12:56] <beedee> ok
[12:57] <beedee> k1l, i first used pip and i also used github later when its giving me error, but i need to remove the ryu now and reinstall
[12:57] <k1l> beedee: yes, you mixed a lot of things there
[12:58] <beedee> ok
[12:59] <beedee> but its not removing now, saying Unable to locate package ryu
[12:59] <beedee> and its located in the directory when i issue "ls"
[13:01] <DrFoo> the launcher doesn't appear anymore... how do I get it back?
[13:02] <k1l> beedee: i dont know how you installed. what commands you uses etc.
[13:03] <beedee> k1l i use pip install ryu
[13:03] <k1l> and then?
[13:04] <beedee> after i encounter error, i then use git clone git://github.com/osrg/ryu.git
[13:04] <beedee> and then issue the setup
[13:06] <k1l> sudo pip uninstall ryu
[13:09] <beedee> k1l thanks
[13:10] <tolga> hello i am installing but it still says "verifying installation confuguration" since 2 hour
[13:10] <tolga> ubuntu 13.4
[13:10] <moppers_> I'm not a sysadmin. Do they include python tuition in modern sysadmin classes? Seems it's everywhere now
[13:11] <Guest37474> Can somebody please advise and help. I run Ubuntu 14.04 as a dual-boot with Win XP Pro. Last night I installed Virtualbox into Ubuntu, but did not install any OS in it yet. then an auto system update on the Ubuntu followed. I then shut down the PC for the night. this morning when in logged into Ubuntu, all I get is a blank screen with the default Ubuntu wallpaper. I cannt even access command line, as Cntrol+Alt+T doesn't respond. 
[13:11] <OpenTokix> moppers_: it comes by itself.
[13:11] <k1l> tolga: installing ubuntu or installing a package?
[13:11] <tolga> installing ubuntu by wubi OpenTokix
[13:12] <tolga> k11
[13:12] <thgh> Hello does 15.04 include MIR and systemd?
[13:12] <OerHeks> tolga ubuntu 13.04 ??
[13:12] <k1l> tolga: ok stop there
[13:12] <moppers_> OpenTokix: You mean self-taught?
[13:12] <tolga> yes k11
[13:12] <k1l> tolga: dont use wubi, and dont install a ubuntu version that is already dead
[13:12] <tolga> k11 icant boot via usb stick
[13:13] <k1l> tolga: you dont go and install windows 95, right? get a 14.04 ubuntu and install that onto real partitions
[13:13] <tolga> k11 but i cant boot
[13:13] <k1l> tolga: 1. 13.04 is already dead. 2. you can use a dvd if you cant boot from usb
[13:13] <OpenTokix> moppers_: Most sysadmintraits is self-tought, not many sysadmin classes worth a damn actually.
[13:14] <tolga> ok thx k11
[13:14] <OpenTokix> moppers_: there is a few conferances, but that it more large scale and enterprise-level
[13:14] <k1l> tolga: wubi is for testing purposes. it will break you ubuntu and possibly your windows, too. so make a real install
[13:14] <moppers_> OpenTokix: I see. If I could ask how much is python needed in linux sysadmin?
[13:14] <commodore100> hi
[13:14] <OpenTokix> moppers_: from nothing to a lot. I have written some pyton stuff, backupscripts and such.
[13:15] <OpenTokix> moppers_: You get very far by writing bash scripts. -  But if you want threading you need python or other threadable language
[13:15] <moppers_> OpenTokix: I teach python and i was just wondering if we need make special lessons that are specific to sysadmin. Deployment and stuff
[13:15] <OpenTokix> moppers_: Threading example is, I want to ask theese 200 machines for some data. -  Doing it sequentially will take a long time.
[13:16] <beedee> k1l i uninstall it and reinstall using pip and then i followed the procedure in the link being sent before but its still giving the same error
[13:16] <OpenTokix> moppers_: look up ansible
[13:16] <moppers_> OpenTokix: Yea our devops use it
[13:16] <k1l> beedee: i bet the old git files are still on your machine. remove them.
[13:17] <beedee> but how will i do that
[13:17] <OpenTokix> moppers_: its python based, so it would be a nice fit - and modern
[13:17] <moppers_> OpenTokix: thanks
[13:17] <k1l> beedee: and i really think you need to ask the ryu guys what is wrong with their program.
[13:17] <beedee> which command am i to use
[13:17] <OpenTokix> moppers_: many places use ansible or orchestration, and then puppet,cfengine,chef for CM
[13:17] <beedee> yea, though still waiting for their reply yet
[13:18] <beedee> which command am i to use to remove
[13:18] <k1l> beedee: see if that setup script got a uninstall command. if not look what it installed and remove that
[13:18] <moppers_> ryu works beter with qcf+punch. they'll probably tell you to practise that. I'll be afk for a logn itme now. Thanks to OpenTokix
[13:18] <thgh> does current daily build of 15.04 include MIR/systemd?
[13:19] <beedee> moppers_ what is qcf+punch
[13:19] <OpenTokix> moppers_: I personally use cfengin3
[13:19] <beedee> how can i try that
[13:19] <OpenTokix> cfengine3
[13:19] <OpenTokix> moppers_: Never heard of qcf+ṕuinch, what is that?
[13:19] <k1l> thgh: unstable support in #ubuntu+1
[13:19] <moppers_> beedee: Just a joke, feel free to ignore. Ryu is a famous character from streetfighter game and that is how to do his fireball move
[13:20] <beedee> yea, i play the street fighter then some long years ago
[13:20] <beedee> ok
[13:20] <cfhowlett> !vivid | thgh,
[13:20] <moppers_> qcf = quarter circle forward
[13:20] <beedee> k1l still waiting for you on how to remove it
 beedee: see if that setup script got a uninstall command. if not look what it installed and remove that
[13:21] <realityphantom> #infonomicon
[13:21] <k1l> beedee: ubuntu cant know what your software installed where. so ask the software or go on the hunt yourself.
[13:23] <beedee> ok
[13:23] <Vikfig> Can I interupt, and ask for her Please? Or is there another forum for help?
[13:23] <cfhowlett> Vikfig, "her"  ?
[13:23] <Vikfig> Sorry, that should read:ask for help
[13:24] <realityphantom> Holy poop ubuntu help 24/7 by real ppl!
[13:24] <cfhowlett> !behelpul | realityphantom,
[13:24] <cfhowlett> !behelpful | realityphantom,
[13:24] <Vikfig> [15:11] <Guest37474> Can somebody please advise and help. I run Ubuntu 14.04 as a dual-boot with Win XP Pro. Last night I installed Virtualbox into Ubuntu, but did not install any OS in it yet. then an auto system update on the Ubuntu followed. I then shut down the PC for the night. this morning when in logged into Ubuntu, all I get is a blank screen with the default Ubuntu wallpaper. I cannt even access command line, as Cntrol+Alt+T 
[13:25] <realityphantom> Oh it isn't general conversation, I apologize I was just hoping to chat 'about' ubuntu.
[13:25] <cfhowlett> realityphantom, chat is welcome in #ubuntu-offtopic    thanks.
[13:28] <cfhowlett> Vikfig, I'm guessing you interrupted an update.  boot into recovery mode and run sudo apt-get install -f
[13:29] <moppers_> Is clonezilla the recommended way to backup the OS onto a new drive?
[13:29] <cfhowlett> moppers_, it's A recommended way
 Thanks for your reply. The auto update was completed......  How do I boot into recovery mode .... Using install disk?
[13:30] <cfhowlett> Vikfig, that's one option.  wait 1
[13:30] <moppers_> cfhowlett: If i need to resize the partition before hand, i can do this from an ubuntu live CD?
[13:30] <cfhowlett> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[13:31] <Vikfig> Ok
[13:31] <cfhowlett> moppers_, yes
[13:31] <cfhowlett> Vikfig, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[13:31] <Vikfig> Thanks, I appreciate your advice, I'll give it a try
[13:31] <moppers_> cfhowlett: And before I resize the partition are there any disk checks I should run?
[13:32] <cfhowlett> moppers_, I wasn't following your thread so missed your specific issues/goals
[13:32] <Iceman_> Hey! Can someone help me with my Ubuntu?
[13:32] <cfhowlett> !ask | Iceman_
[13:32] <moppers_> cfhowlett: The OS is booting from a hard drive that's beginning to fail. I need to clone it to a smaller replacement drive.
[13:33] <cfhowlett> moppers_, got it.  I THINK cloning requires exact matches on the HDD size ... or was the a dd command issue only?
[13:33] <moppers_> cfhowlett: Currently it works fine. The drive is beginning to develop bad sectors and i think it best to replace it bfore they become a problem
[13:33] <cfhowlett> moppers_, you are wise :)
[13:34] <moppers_> cfhowlett: Yes this is why i want to resize the partition first.
[13:34] <Iceman_> So I've partitioned my hard drive with Windows 8 and now Ubuntu. However I'd like to know how to boot into Windows 8- no grub comes up when I boot from the hard drive. Are there some commands I can input to the terminal to force up a grub, or what? I'm kind of new to Ubuntu, so yeah... help is greatly appreciated!
[13:35] <He4dShOt> hey guys
[13:35] <cfhowlett> moppers_, the clone away, verify the good copy before you destroy the old copy
[13:36] <moppers_> cfhowlett: thanks.
[13:36] <He4dShOt> I have a popup from "Backup" every time I log in saying that ubuntu one has shut down...I don't know where this is coming, I never used ubuntu one
[13:36] <cfhowlett> moppers_, happy2help!
[13:37] <He4dShOt> if I try to remove "ubuntuone-client-data" it want to remove also "ubuntu-desktop"
[13:37] <Iceman_> Basically I have Ubuntu and Windows 8 on the same HDD, and Ubuntu comes up ands boots without a grub so I can't access my windows. Any suggestions?
[13:38] <k1l> Iceman_: run "sudo update-grub"
[13:38] <Iceman_> !patience
  I booted into recovery mode,, dropped to root shell  prompt, then ran sudo apt-get install -f
[13:40] <mernilio> Hi all!
[13:40] <cfhowlett> Vikfig, any return messages ?
[13:41] <Vikfig> Yes, it'll take me a while to type them out
[13:42] <Guest97958> I'll decide
[13:42] <Vikfig> W: Not using locking for read only lock file /car/Lin/dig/lock
[13:42] <Iceman_> So I tried to run sudo update-grub, and it asked for my user's password. But when I try and type it in, nothing happens, no letters appear
[13:43] <k1l> Iceman_: just blindly type the users password.
[13:43] <Vikfig> E: unable to write to /var/cache//apt/
[13:43] <k1l> there is no **** or letters. then hit enter
[13:43] <cfhowlett> k1l, ? /var/cache//apt/       is wrong directory
[13:44] <Vikfig> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[13:44] <cfhowlett> Vikfig, well now THAT is ... bad.
[13:44] <cfhowlett> Vikfig, everything was working fine before this?
 those are all the messages
[13:45] <cfhowlett> Vikfig, everything was working fine before this?
[13:45] <Vikfig> Yes, thanks, was working perfectly
[13:46] <Iceman_> I ran the update-grub. Do I just reboot now?
[13:46] <cfhowlett> Vikfig, so far as I can guess: you've fatally scrambled something critical.  backup your data, reinstall.
[13:46] <k1l> Iceman_: please show the output in a pastebin
[13:46] <johndave> :)
[13:47] <Vikfig> Yes everything was working perfectly fine before this
[13:48] <cmullinax> Q: Best practice to have TRIM run on startup or leave as cron job (default)? Computer is Dell XPS 13 (9333) with 256gb SSD.
[13:49] <Vikfig> Okay... Thanks can I use safe mode to backup my datat?
[13:50] <moppers_> cmullinax: As long as it runs. But from a user impact point of view, isnt on boot going to be frustrating? You kind of want your machine to come on and wake up fast?
[13:51] <Iceman_> Oh I'm on a different computer but here I'll type it word-for-word http://pastebin.com/U5bWa9Fn
[13:52] <cmullinax> moppers_: Would the impact to boot time be significant?
[13:52] <cfhowlett> Vikfig, sure.  navigate to your /home, backup to a USB or something
[13:52] <cmullinax> cron jobs usually depend on the machine be on
[13:52] <moppers_> cmullinax: The other issue is how often you actually boot it up. usualyl my laptop is asleep and i wake it up, which is different from a boot
[13:53] <cmullinax> Is there way to have TRIM run unscheduled but when the machine is in an on state?
 thanks for your input and efforts to help me. I log out just now, unless you have any further suggestions ...
[13:53] <cfhowlett> Vikfig, happy2help!
[13:53] <moppers_> cmullinax: for those reasons i think cron is better (impact on boot, and the fact that you cant predict how often it boots as opposed to wakes)
[13:53] <cmullinax> moppers_: Well, my machine suffers from the suspend/wake issues that seemingly haven't been solved yet
[13:54] <mysupper> hello
[13:54] <cmullinax> moppers_: Was hoping that the latest kernel would solve for this but still seeing it
 thank!! Bye
[13:54] <mysupper> wow..hangul input is quite good in ubuntu.
[13:54] <Iceman_> Hm... It works! Thanks guys!
[13:57] <Iceman_> Uh oh... Whenever I try to select Windows in the grub, it just exits the grub and then goes right back... What now?
[13:58] <bruxC> how would I go about putty'ing into an ubuntu server with ssh enabled outside of my network?
[13:58] <yvan> bonjour
[13:58] <bruxC> hola
[14:03] <gvijai> bruxC, connect via putty and input ip address and username passwd
[14:05] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:05] <Rubass> Hi
[14:05]  * gvijai EOD
[14:06] <bruxC> gvijai, The thing is I have many lan devices on my network. so I know typically it would be externalip but how is it to distinguish which linux machine to putty into?
[14:07] <k1l> bruxC: it cant. you need to forward that port to the specific machine in the router
[14:07] <bruxC> oh... perhaps I can port forward 22
[14:07] <bruxC> haha. duh.
[14:07] <bruxC> thanks.
[14:10] <Iceman_> Anyone know how to use a Linksys mini-usb wireless adapter with Linux?
[14:10] <Iceman_> *ubuntu
[14:11] <teward> Iceman_: depends on the adapter model - a lot of Linksys wireless adapters in USB don't like to operate in Linux (becaues no drivers)
[14:12] <Iceman_> Yeah... That's what I was thinking might happen due to the lack of .exe compatibility... So as of right now, most things I try on that computer due to not having internet access
[14:13] <teward> Iceman_: you might want a different adapter.
[14:13] <Iceman_> Wait, nevermind. Is there a Boot Repair download someone can link me to?
[14:13] <teward> Iceman_: having said this, it's not a lack of EXE compatibility, its Windows/Mac drivers vs. Linux - they're not compatible with each other in most cases
[14:15] <k1l> Iceman_: get the usb id from "lsusb" and search for if someone got that working on ubuntu
[14:15] <bruxC> k1l, worked like a charm. sometimes I just need to talk things out. thanks for listening.
[14:19] <Iceman_> I have to go, thanks for the help! My windows 8 still won't boot from the grub though... Any thoughts?
[14:20] <g3ky> Iceman_, Have a look at ndiswrapper too.
[14:20] <k1l> Iceman_: see if grub directs to the right windows partition
[14:20] <mysupper> wow tilda is beautiful!
[14:21] <Iceman_> So how do I do that?
[14:22] <Iceman_> How do I direct it to the right windows partition?
[14:27] <k1l> now he is gone :/
[14:28] <mysupper> k1l, grup itself is easy. you should go completely with grub manual.
[14:28] <k1l> mysupper: i dont have a problem with grub
[14:29] <mysupper> then you still can't boot window partition?
[14:29] <bynarie> hello fellers
[14:29] <bynarie> teward, i see u in every channel i goto lol
[14:30] <dario_> .xchat2/budus.so
[14:31] <dario_> .xchat2/budus.so
[14:47] <neure> in 14.10 how do i change font size for windows?
[14:47] <neure> or for my qt theme?
[14:49] <mysupper> hello
[14:51] <Ackis> I'm trying to play around with a few bash scripts to start/stop services (in this example, updating a starbound server via steamcmd).  I'm having trouble figuring out how to get a proper exit value from the service command and from steamcmd.sh to see if it was successful or if it failed - are there any examples that someone could point me at?
[14:51] <Ackis> I'm not even sure what to google for =/
[14:54] <ryl> hi
[14:57] <green-big-frog> I installed the nvidia drivers (Version: 331.113) out of the package manager; but now I want to switch to the drivers (346.35) from the website
[14:57] <green-big-frog> What do I have to do, before downloading and running the driver from the website?
[15:04] <green-big-frog> I installed the nvidia drivers (Version: 331.113) out of the package manager; but now I want to switch to the drivers (346.35) from the website
[15:04] <green-big-frog> What do I have to do, before downloading and running the driver from the website?
[15:04] <green-big-frog> A link to a article disussing this problem would help also...
[15:07] <OerHeks> green-big-frog, don't use the .run from the website, if you persist on 346, use the xorg edgers ppa
[15:07] <green-big-frog> OerHeks: ok
[15:08] <green-big-frog> thanks for answering
[15:08] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[15:19] <racsox> hey people I need to compress an archive with tar . I did "tar -cvvf foo.tar foo/" and it works, but I don't want to see the files in the screen, I mean I need compressing without tar show me the files that it is compressing
[15:20] <bmelcher84> racsox: man tar
[15:20] <Myrtti> leave the -v's out then
[15:20] <racsox> thanks Myrtti
[15:20] <racsox> :D
[15:23] <siente> Hello guys, why when I try to open http://78.83.27.76/aq/ it's giving me Forbidden
[15:23] <siente> You don't have permission to access /aq/index.html on this server. ?
[15:23] <k1l> siente: yes
[15:24] <siente> k1l, how to fix it?
[15:24] <k1l> is it your server?
[15:24] <siente> k1l, yes
[15:24] <k1l> is there a .htaccess?
[15:25] <siente> no
[15:27] <bb> hi all - trying to sort an issue out with squid, port 80 sites all are ok, but can't acces ssl sites like gmail etc. i have modified squid.conf - http_access allow !Safe_ports, http_access allow CONNECT !SSL_ports
[15:27] <bb> still no good..
[15:27] <k1l> siente: what gives you "ls -al /var/www/"
[15:27] <k1l> siente: please in a pastebin
[15:28] <siente> k1l, http://pastebin.com/AMceT98d
[15:29] <k1l> siente: well, there is no subdirectory?
[15:29] <siente> hmm
[15:30] <maszlo> I am looking for advice on how to find info on changing the resolution / font size when booting kernel in verbose mode.  running nvidia drivers breaks my plymouth startup, so would just like to get the text alot smaller so can be seen before flys off the screen.
[15:30] <siente> k1l, when the index.html which is opened from http://78.83.27.76/ is in /var/www/html/
[15:31] <k1l> so what is in that folder?
[15:33] <siente> k1l, http://pastebin.com/iUzHTx5b
[15:33] <bb> hi all - trying to sort an issue out with squid, port 80 sites all are ok, but can't acces ssl sites like gmail etc. i have modified squid.conf - http_access allow !Safe_ports, http_access allow CONNECT !SSL_ports
[15:35] <k1l> siente: give the ownerchip of the aq folder to www-data
[15:35] <siente> k1l, and then how to edit my files?
[15:36] <k1l> siente: should work with group permissions
[15:36] <siente> k1l, how to configure it?
[15:37] <k1l> siente: set it to the www-data to see if that is the issue. if its not you need to find the real issue anyways.
[15:42] <bb> hi all - trying to sort an issue out with squid, port 80 sites all are ok, but can't acces ssl sites like gmail etc. i have modified squid.conf - http_access allow !Safe_ports, http_access allow CONNECT !SSL_ports
[15:47] <siente> k1l, yes that's the issue
[15:47] <siente> k1l, but how to create a group now?
[15:48] <k1l> "chgrp"
[15:49] <siente> k1l, but how to check out existing groups and so on?
[15:49] <siente> k1l, I am newbie
[15:49] <k1l> type groups
[15:49] <siente> k1l, there's only 1 group root
[15:50] <k1l> but you need to group that files and folders to www-data if you want the webserver to be able to read them
[15:51] <siente> k1l, okay, but then how to give myself perms over those files?
[15:52] <k1l> do you know about user and groups on linux?
[15:54] <siente> k1l, not much or at least I don't remember anything I haven't used linux for years
[15:54] <siente> k1l, I haven't used linux for long period of time anyway I am a beginner
[15:54] <k1l> hasnt changed since ages.
[15:55] <k1l> so like i said: group those files and directories to www-data
[15:56] <Kroupouk> Hello , is there someone to advise me a good UML soft on Ubuntu? I found Umbrello...just want to know if there is a top app...Thx..
[15:56] <siente> k1l, yes I know it hasnt changed, but actually I don't remember anything
[16:02] <bb> how can I access ssl sites through squid
[16:07] <sudormrf> have any of you guys ever encountered an issue with hexchat where it doesn't save your settings?
[16:08] <EriC^^> sudormrf: check ~/.hexchat
[16:08] <mregg> Bonjour :) J'essaie d'installer owncloud depuis le dépôt officiel (opensuse, comme indiqué sur ubuntu-fr.org) sur un serveur OVH, j'obtiens une erreur "broken packages" et rien ne s'installe. J'ai pourtant déjà installé owncloud et je n'avais jamais eu cette erreur. Une idée ?
[16:08] <sudormrf> EriC^^, thanks.  will do :)
[16:08] <EriC^^> !fr | mregg
[16:08] <k1l> sudormrf: did you ruin the file permissions with running with sudo?
[16:08] <sudormrf> k1l, haven't made any changes to any config files since installing it.
[16:09] <siente> k1l, where to read about groups and so on?
[16:09] <sudormrf> EriC^^, have no .hexchat directory or file
[16:09] <sudormrf> in that location anyway
[16:09] <mregg> Hi all :) I'm trying to install owncloud from the official repo (opensuse) on Ubuntu 12.04, and I'm getting a Broken packages error. I have previously installed owncloud on ubuntu and never got any such error. Any suggestion?
[16:10] <k1l> sudormrf: its in .config
[16:10] <sudormrf> k1l, ah.  sec
[16:10] <k1l> siente: see the manpages or other documentations to "chown" "chgrp" ""groups" etc
[16:11] <green-big-frog> I installed the nvidia drivers a few days ago
[16:11] <green-big-frog> but nvidia-detector is always saying none; I am 90% sure I'm running the nvidia drivers, because I can use nvidia-settings
[16:11] <green-big-frog> Also my nvidia-smi isn't showing everything... http://hastebin.com/carukamayo.vhdl
[16:11] <green-big-frog> How do I have to fix this? I have googled but couldn't find anything... maybee I'm blind
[16:11] <EriC^^> sudormrf: type find ~ ! -user <your user>
[16:11] <sudormrf> k1l, interesting.  all of the files in there are -rw-------
[16:12] <siente> k1l, thank you
[16:12] <green-big-frog> currently installed nvidia stuff: http://hastebin.com/mekexiviru.hs
[16:12] <sudormrf> perhaps because the program is open
[16:14] <EriC^^> sudormrf: do you own the file?
[16:14] <dupingping> hi
[16:14] <nwni> hey
[16:15] <dupingping> how can register my debian package in to my ppa in launchpad.net?
[16:15] <EriC^^> !debian | dupingping
[16:15] <EriC^^> dupingping: ask in #debian
[16:15] <sudormrf> EriC^^, my user owns the file.  sudormrf:sudormrf
[16:15] <EriC^^> sudormrf: ok, did you run the find ~ command?
[16:16] <sudormrf> EriC^^, yeah...it never finished.
[16:16] <sudormrf> oh weait
[16:16] <sudormrf> this time it finished quick
[16:16] <sudormrf> .Certs
[16:16] <sudormrf> er...what is that find command looking for exactly
[16:16] <dupingping> how can register my debian package in to my ppa in launchpad.net?
[16:17] <k1l> dupingping: you want to upload it to launchpad?
[16:17] <dupingping> sure.
[16:17] <k1l> dupingping: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/Uploading
[16:17] <dupingping> oh, thanks.
[16:18] <llutz> sudormrf: find files _not_ (!) owned by -user _user_
[16:18] <sudormrf> llutz, thanks
[16:18] <sudormrf> :)
[16:20] <green-big-frog> I installed the nvidia drivers a few days ago
[16:20] <green-big-frog> but nvidia-detector is always saying none; I am 90% sure I'm running the nvidia drivers, because I can use nvidia-settings
[16:20] <green-big-frog> Also my nvidia-smi isn't showing everything... http://hastebin.com/carukamayo.vhdl
[16:20] <green-big-frog> How do I have to fix this? I have googled but couldn't find anything... maybee I'm blind
[16:20] <green-big-frog> currently installed drivers: http://hastebin.com/mekexiviru.hs
[16:22] <OerHeks> green-big-frog, that nvidia 750 needs the 346 driver, did you add the ppa ?
[16:22] <sudormrf> going to check in with the guys in #hexchat
[16:23] <EriC^^> sudormrf: i guess it could be the permissions are off
[16:23] <green-big-frog> OerHeks: no
[16:23] <green-big-frog> I'm using the standard package
[16:23] <green-big-frog> Should I try that? and when should I first remove the other nvidia-*?
[16:23] <EriC^^> i can't get find -perm / to work to look for files that dont have read write for user
[16:23] <k1l> yep. /me votes for permissions too
[16:23] <bb> d
[16:23] <sudormrf> EriC^^, that is what I am thinking.
[16:23] <EriC^^> anybody know how find -perm works?
[16:23] <cn28h> On 14.10, ctrl+alt+t works for me, but sometimes there is a ~10s pause before a terminal appears. Any idea how to fix that? My system isn't under any sort of load that would explain that
[16:24] <k1l> sudormrf: well, than look at the permissions fomr .config, the hexchat folder inside .config and then the files in hexchat folder
[16:24] <green-big-frog> OerHeks: you read that?
[16:24] <cpt_yossarian> cn28h: do you have anything in your .bashrc/profiles that would cause shell loading to take a long time?
[16:25] <cn28h> cpt_yossarian: hadn't considered that, that's a great point. I'll have to look
[16:25] <OerHeks> green-big-frog, some time ago i gave you https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[16:25] <cn28h> I do put lots of random stuff there :x
[16:25] <EriC^^> sudormrf: try ls -Rl | grep "^\-\-\-"
[16:25] <green-big-frog> OerHeks: should I try that?
[16:25] <EriC^^> it's really ugly, you do what you can with what you have though :>
[16:25] <sudormrf> k1l, the hexchat and config folder is dwrx------ (sorry I don't know the number designation :().  the files in the hexchat folder are -rw------
[16:25] <sudormrf> EriC^^, checking
[16:25] <Diranged> Hey .. any ubuntu.com mirror owners here? The ubuntu.com 'updates' mirror is pointing to invalid and un-available vesions of Postgres. Both 9.1 and 9.3 are broken.
[16:26] <sudormrf> EriC^^, that returned nothing
[16:26] <k1l> sudormrf: and all from that specific user?
[16:26] <EriC^^> sudormrf: try ls -Rl | grep "^\-\r\-"
[16:27] <EriC^^> maybe it's read but no write
[16:27] <k1l> sudormrf: and all owned by that specific user?
[16:27] <EriC^^> sudormrf: wait try ls -Rl | grep "^\-\-\w"
[16:28] <green-big-frog> OerHeks: should I try that? and which packages should I remove before using edgers ppa?
[16:28] <sudormrf> k1l, correct
[16:28] <sudormrf> EriC^^, trying
[16:28] <OerHeks> i think you can just add the ppa, update, and install the nvidia-346
[16:28] <llutz> EriC^^: find path/ -uid 'uid' -perm -u+rw
[16:29] <sudormrf> EriC^^, same thing
[16:34] <EriC^^> llutz: keeps saying invalid argument to -perm
[16:35] <EriC^^> it's odd, the manpage says -perm -u for the exact match and -perm / for any that, doesn't work though
[16:35] <llutz> EriC^^: works here, find (GNU findutils) 4.4.2
[16:35] <EriC^^> same version here
[16:35] <EriC^^> *shrug*
[16:36] <[[thufir]]> I'm using pc named "dur"; dur has regular Ubuntu (desktop, GUI, etc).  Second pc, same network, named "tleilax" is just CLI -- no desktop, no gui.  How I setup tleilax as an ssh server?  I want to be able to login to tleilax with ssh.  However, I don't see an easy way of copying keys from one the other...because there's no ssh.  chicken or egg problem...
[16:36] <EriC^^> llutz: which ubuntu version?
[16:37] <llutz> EriC^^: none :)
[16:37] <EriC^^> oh that'd be it i guess :)
[16:37] <azi`> i have just recived a certificate that got installed into firefox. I am asked to obtain a p12 file out of it
[16:37] <EriC^^> compiled with different features
[16:37] <azi`> anyone happens to know how this is done? i don't seem to be able to export into that format from firefox
[16:37] <llutz> EriC^^: debian sid, i doubt its built different
[16:38] <EriC^^> oh
[16:41] <OerHeks> [[thufir]], after installing ssh on the machine without gui,https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Configuring and then from the machine with gui, make ssh keys and copy them  " ssh-copy-id tleilax@<ip> " https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[16:42] <[[thufir]]> OerHeks: thanks, I was reading that.  so, you can transfer keys even without access?
[16:43] <OerHeks> no, you need to login with ssh password
[16:43] <OerHeks> after that, you can change the config and disable password.
[16:43] <Diranged> Just curious, is there process to make a machine automatically run an apt-get update the first time someone calls apt? Ie .. remove /var/lib/apt (obviously tried this .. didn't work).. Anything like that?
[16:45] <[[thufir]]> OerHeks: when I setup SSH on the server, I make a password like "this_strong_pw"?
[16:46] <OerHeks> [[thufir]], that will do sure
[16:47] <OerHeks> most hacked machines that are reachable trough internet, used standard port and use password.
[16:53] <llutz> OerHeks: where "use password" is the real problem
[16:53] <OerHeks> llutz, indeed, but locally during setup should be oke
[16:53] <llutz> running sshd on non-standard port just reduces noise in the logs, it won't really increase security
[16:54] <pedrodias> Good afternoon everyone
[16:54] <pedrodias> Can i get some assistence, please ?
[16:54] <pedrodias> assistance*
[16:54] <jhutchins> pedrodias: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[16:54] <pedrodias> i am trying to share my internet connection through wifi
[16:55] <basichash> How do I set the default profile of terminal?
[16:55] <green-big-frog> OerHeks: i just updated to 346.35 out of the edgers ppa
[16:55] <pedrodias> i have the desktop connected to a wired connection, on a non-wifi capable modem
[16:55] <pedrodias> how do i share my internet connection, though wifi ?
[16:56] <k1l> pedrodias: the networkmanager in the systray should provide an easy solution
[16:56] <jhutchins> [[thufir]]: There is an ssh-copy-id command that will implement the key for you if you have a password-enabled connection.
[16:56] <pedrodias> i can find the other way around .. but not like this
[16:57] <pedrodias> say waht KLl ?
[16:57] <bodhi_zazen> jhenke, ssh-cpoy-id just transfers the key
[16:57] <pedrodias> can someone help me out ?
[16:57] <jhutchins> pedrodias: http://askubuntu.com/questions/60980/how-to-share-a-wired-internet-connection-via-wifi or https://nims11.wordpress.com/2012/04/27/hostapd-the-linux-way-to-create-virtual-wifi-access-point/
[16:57] <k1l> pedrodias: what ubuntu and desktop are you running?
[16:57] <bodhi_zazen> you then disable password authentication once you verify the key works
[16:57] <pedrodias> Xubuntu 14.04
[16:57] <pedrodias> i think
[16:58] <jhenke> bodhi_zazen did you really mean me?
[16:58] <OerHeks> bodhi_zazen, thanks for repeating, told [[thufir]] already
[16:58] <bodhi_zazen> jhutchins, ^^
[16:58] <k1l> pedrodias: click on the networksymbol and choose "make hotspot" in the menu
[16:59] <pedrodias> no hotspot option there
[16:59] <k1l> pedrodias: if you need extended explanaition see the links from jhutchins
[16:59] <pedrodias> and btw, it cannot be Ad-Hoc
[17:00] <pedrodias> i guess i will try hostapd
[17:00] <pedrodias> thx anyway ... have fun and stay legit ;)
[17:01] <DrGrov> Hi, can I install KDE on top of Xubuntu 14.04 without "breaking" any dependencies?
[17:02] <[[thufir]]1> pardon, coming back to ssh.
[17:03] <[[thufir]]1> when I install the ssh server software on the server, I just create normal keys?  private and public?  and then these keys have passphrases?
[17:03] <llutz> [[thufir]]1: create the key on the client, transfer to server then
[17:04] <basichash> How do I set the default profile of terminal?
[17:06] <[[thufir]]1> llutz: that's the chicken/egg problem.  how do I do that?  there's some sort of work-around?  I don't quite understand the work-around.
[17:06] <llutz> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[17:06] <llutz> [[thufir]]1: ^^
[17:06] <OerHeks> basichash, Under Edit → Profiles set the "Profile used when opening a new terminal" to the profile you want.
[17:07] <JuJuBee> I am having trouble with codeblocks install.  Something is preventing it from installing do when I tried -f install to fix deps it fails...  http://pastebin.com/1YuiZH8s
[17:07] <JuJuBee> I want to remove it altogether as it prevents me from installing other software
[17:07] <basichash> OerHeks: thanks
[17:09] <baako> hi guys just install ubuntu 14.04 LTS on my VM looks good from a small screen BUT how do I make it full screen on Oracle VM? thanks
[17:09] <llutz> [[thufir]]1: what is your problem with that?
[17:11] <JuJuBee> baako: install guest additions
[17:12] <SchrodingersScat> JuJuBee: oracle vm has those?
[17:12] <baako> JuJuBee: any trusted link?
[17:12] <nicomachus> baako: see: http://askubuntu.com/questions/22743/how-do-i-install-guest-additions-in-a-virtualbox-vm
[17:12] <JuJuBee> sorry, thinking about virtualbox
[17:12] <JuJuBee> They must have something similar
[17:13] <JuJuBee> http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E35328_01/E35333/html/vmutl-guestadd.html
[17:14] <Lucazz> hi guys
[17:14] <SchrodingersScat> hello
[17:14] <nicomachus> baako: See second answer down on this post for Oracle tips: http://askubuntu.com/questions/459472/ubuntu-under-virtualbox-in-windows-7-how-to-set-bigger-screen-resolution
[17:14] <Lucazz> where do I find more docs about preseeding?
[17:15] <Lucazz> im looking up Packer and am building a preseed file
[17:15] <Lucazz> where do I find more infos about it?
[17:15] <nicomachus> Lucazz: is that an Ubuntu support question?
[17:15] <Freetekton> here you can find info http://i.imgur.com/XtqC4eI.gifv
[17:16] <Lucazz> nicomachus: I guess not
[17:16] <nicomachus> baako: step-by-step on installing guest additions in Oracle: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2247660
[17:16] <Lucazz> im looking for some documentation about it
[17:16] <SchrodingersScat> !ops | Freetekton
[17:17] <Freetekton> http://i.imgur.com/XtqC4eI.gifv
[17:17] <Lucazz> all I found is this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/i386/preseed-using.html
[17:17] <bekks> baako: Install the guest additions as described in te vbox manual.
[17:17] <Lucazz> and its kinda old
[17:17] <nicomachus> !ops | Freetekton
[17:17] <kline> hi, whats the best way to debug a command failure with su? if i have exec su - pacs -c '/opt/dcm4chee-2.18.0-psql/bin/run.sh -c default' in an upstart job, the job fails with su returning 127 - unable to execute command. when logging in as pacs i can run this internal command, likewise sudo su into root and i can run the full thing
[17:18] <rww> nicomachus: They already got kickbanned almost a minute ago.
[17:18] <k1l_> nicomachus: he is already gone
[17:18] <nicomachus> ah, whoops, have join/part messages hidden
[17:18] <bekks> Lucazz: https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/installation-guide/amd64/apb.html
[17:18] <rww> and ban messages? :P
[17:18] <nicomachus> haha, guess so. it didn't show
[17:20] <Lucazz> where do I find a list of all keyboard-configuration layoutcodes?
[17:20] <Lucazz> does it follow the same naming patterns used in loadkeys?
[17:20] <baako> lol SO MANY LINKS
[17:21] <OerHeks> Lucazz, 2 examples https://gist.github.com/moonwitch/11100762 https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/example-preseed.txt
[17:22] <Lucazz> OerHeks: tyvm
[17:22] <baako> so link should i use
[17:22] <mernilio> Hi all! :-)
[17:23] <mernilio> It seems my allways nice distros have abanoed me, and now im here on the open sea sailing in deep water :-/
[17:24] <OerHeks> baako,  see the url from nicomachus
[17:24] <mernilio> abanoned == banned :-P
[17:24] <k1l_> baako: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox/GuestAdditions
[17:25] <k1l_> mernilio: this is the technical ubuntu support :) for chitchat we have #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:25] <JuJuBee> Any help on apt-get -f install not working?  http://pastebin.com/1YuiZH8s
[17:25] <mernilio> I reach a hand of christian love to you all! For better luck in the future! Thanks k11
[17:25] <mernilio> :-)
[17:26] <mernilio> k11 Im banned from that channes as it seems. can you talk to the captain? I really want to talk about how that dog ate my penis
[17:30] <cinimoon> utopic, 8400gs, nvidia 331.113, xrandr will not change to modes but gives no error message (screen blinks and stays the same)
[17:42] <Thor> Hi, I've done something pretty stupid… I removed NetworkManager(in the process of removing dnsmasq), I'm trying to get it either back online without NM, or back online with NM, so far nither way has worked, without nm I've tried specifying my interface in /etc/network/interfaces, and with nm I've tried mounting a 14.04 install disk and using that as a repository to install NM again, but software & update
[17:42] <Thor> doesn't let me select the disk, either mounted from a hdd emulating a cdrom, or as iso. Any ideas how I can get NM installed again?
[17:45] <gryphon> Thor, you can try to copy nm package and install it using dpkg
[17:46] <bekks> Thor: Even more easy: manuall configure an IP address using ifconfig, and then just reinstall NM.
[17:46] <Thor> gryphon: where would I find it? I have tried using find on the iso itself and in the squashfs image inside casper on the iso
[17:46] <jaycedars> allegedly, nginx-extras includes the chunkin module, but the output of nginx -V doesn't list it, and specifying `chunkin on;` results in an error.
[17:47] <kmyst> ok does anybody happen to know the command to retrigger a usb drive to mount under the name of it's label in /media ???
[17:47] <Thor> bekks: when I try ifconfig eth0 up, I get Cannot find device eth0, lshw -c Network shows that it's disabled
[17:47] <bekks> Thor: "ifconfig eth0" will not comfigure an interface. Take a look at "sudo ifconfig -a" to see which interfaces you have.
[17:48] <kmyst> i.e. i don't want to unplug/replug the device
[17:48] <Thor> bekks: ah, thanks
[17:50] <Thor> thanks bekks, got it online now
[17:50] <kmyst> ah! udisks command :)
[17:51] <dbarros> how to keep uninstalling a whole set of packages if there are 'missing packages installed' in your command line?
[17:52] <abishek> how do I pass a bash script variable on curl HTTP POST payload? I have a variable GITOUT=`git log ORIG_HEAD..HEAD` and want to send it on curl
[17:55] <llutz> abishek: http://stackoverflow.com/a/17032673
[17:56] <Paradisee> is there a way to stream on twitch with ubuntu?
[17:57] <Paradisee> i know there are few programs allowed to do it
[18:03] <abishek> llutz: I need to concatnate that variable with the string. This is what I am currently doing, am not sure what is the mistake
[18:03] <abishek> llutz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10207915/
[18:05] <Jammerx2> My Bluetooth headphones have a play/pause button on it, but it only seems to pause media when used on Ubuntu (works with my phone). Any suggestions?
[18:06] <Jammerx2> abishek, don't use single quotes
[18:07] <abishek> Jammerx2, can you give me an example?
[18:07] <teward> Jammerx2: not all bluetooth headphones work with all models for all functions
[18:08] <teward> Jammerx2: case in point, my BlueBuds bluetooth earbuds don't work with media except volume up/down on Ubuntu, but work flawlessly with all the advanced options as well on my phone
[18:08] <Jammerx2> teward, it does pause though, so it is definitely sending some signal and is possible to make it toggle play/pause
[18:08] <teward> Jammerx2: not saying it isn't, the point is the computer and/or device has to know how to process those signals
[18:08] <sudormrf> I have a language that is stuck in the language selector that needs removing.  I have uninstalled all the packages for the language, removed it from the text entry options, restarted and it still shows up.
[18:08] <teward> Jammerx2: those signals for one device might not be the same on another
[18:09] <sudormrf> where would the configuration file for this live?
[18:09] <teward> Jammerx2: the same earbuds work for play/pause but not volume on my android tablet, so it's less a problem on ubuntu and a question about the compatibility of the earbuds and the device
[18:09] <teward> which is not the scope of this channel.
[18:09] <Jammerx2> abishek, "payload={\"text\": \"Application Deployed to Staging with Latest Changes \n  $GITOUT\"}" (replaced single quotes with double quotes and escaped)
[18:09] <teward> Jammerx2: (the 'same earbuds' being the ones i just mentioned are mine)
[18:09] <abishek> k, let me give that a try
[18:09] <Jammerx2> abishek, you could also probably just replace the $GITOUT with '+$GITOUT+' so it's outside of the quotes
[18:10] <barballs> hi folks!
[18:11] <barballs> I've got a full disk boot question for folks smarter than I
[18:11] <teward> barballs: just ask the question
[18:11] <sudormrf> or is there some other way to remove the language from the list?
[18:12] <OpenSorce> 14.04 fresh install running lxde from the repos. On restart I have to log out and back in twice to get fonts and mouse cursor back to the right sizes. Any help?
[18:12] <barballs> I'm using 14.04 Ubuntu Gnome and have Hole Disk encryption.  Is there a limit to the number of times you can enter the wrong password?
[18:13] <Jammerx2> teward, xbindkeys seems to detect the keypress. I guess I'll just look into sending play/pause signals with the command line
[18:13] <barballs> I entered the wrong one for that particular machine and now I can't get the prompt to come back up on reboot.
[18:14] <tim> hey all
[18:15] <barballs> In grub I only get *ubuntu or Advanced options.  Ubuntu presents me with empty screen and advacned options get stuck on "Loading initial ramDisk".
[18:15] <barballs> hi tim
[18:15] <sudormrf> I think this is a bug
[18:15] <Jammerx2> It's weird, it detects it as XF86AudioPlay and XF86AudioPause (the button seems to alternate the signal each press), don't know why only the pause works
[18:19] <Jammerx2> teward, I managed to get it working with xbindkeys running the command "xdotool key XF86AudioPlay" when I press it, might fix your situation as well.
[18:22] <teward> Jammerx2: not important for me, all my stuff's on my phone anyways :)
[18:23] <FreeNet[node]> me too i dont even carry a wallet anymore
[18:24] <FreeNet[node]> i gota loooove technologie
[18:24] <FreeNet[node]> just havent fund the right spot to stach the comdomns
[18:25] <EriC^^> nuter yourself, doh.
[18:25] <abishek> Jammerx2, the replacing of single quotes with double quotes and escaping them doesn't work
[18:26] <abishek> I also tried the 2nd option
[18:26] <FreeNet[node]> at least you can check for STDS in 5 m using a mobile phone
[18:26] <abishek> dones seem to work
[18:26] <eggbeater> eriC^^: please be kind
[18:26] <Jammerx2> abishek, does it still just have $GITOUT in the string?
[18:27] <EriC^^> eggbeater: you're out of context, sir.
[18:27] <rww> FreeNet[node]: #ubuntu is a technical support channel for Ubuntu Linux, not for random chat. Is there something we can help you with?
[18:27] <abishek> Jammerx2, I get the response as "Payload was not valid JSON"
[18:27] <eggbeater> EriC^^: sorry, I just came in D:
[18:27] <eggbeater> :D
[18:28] <EriC^^> :D
[18:28] <FreeNet[node]> how wrong channel
[18:28] <tim> damn... can't believe how many geeks are out there...
[18:28] <rww> !ot | FreeNet[node]
[18:29] <FreeNet[node]> !guidelines
[18:29] <Jammerx2> abishek, remove the + from the second way I mentioned, I can't recall whether or not they're necessary. Also check the value of $GITOUT, it might have something that's causing problems
[18:29] <FreeNet[node]> i tought i was on windowsphone
[18:29] <rww> Nope, you're in #ubuntu. So yeah, Ubuntu support questions only, thanks.
[18:31] <FreeNet[node]> i have no questions ATM
[18:31] <FreeNet[node]> thank YOU
[18:32] <eggbeater> FreeNet[node]: feel free to upgrade to an ubuntu phone :P
[18:32] <nicomachus> FreeNet[node]: feel free to wait for a better ubuntu phone :P
[18:32] <FreeNet[node]> i got android
[18:33] <eggbeater> nicomachus: that too...
[18:33] <FreeNet[node]> proven technologies
[18:33] <rww> again, tech support here, discussion elsewhere
[18:33] <ioria> advice for a phone for putting ubuntu on  ?
[18:34] <FreeNet[node]> is ubuntu phone compatible with kali linux?
[18:34] <rww> FreeNet[node]: no
[18:34] <eggbeater> ioria: I'm pretty sure the Nexus is supported
[18:34] <ioria> thanx
[18:34] <Jammerx2> Nexus 4 is the main phone that supports Ubuntu
[18:34] <rww> ioria: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/devices/
[18:34] <k1l_> ioria: see #ubuntu-touch and the device list on their wiki pages
[18:34] <ioria> thanx
[18:34] <Jammerx2> I wish Nexus 5 worked well with Ubuntu Touch, no Bluetooth (and poor power management)
[18:35] <k1l_> !phone
[18:35] <FreeNet[node]> are you sure have you tyed it?
[18:36] <rww> Support and discussion for Ubuntu Phone goes in #ubuntu-touch. It does not go in here. I am getting a bit bored of pointing out that non-support discussion does not go in here.
[18:36] <FreeNet[node]> let me toutch your ubuntu
[18:38] <nicomachus> rww what is this channel for again? I forgot.
[18:39] <nicomachus> :P
[18:39] <k1l_> nicomachus: i think you need to re-read the channel guidelines.
[18:40] <sudormrf> is there a way to reset the language indicator menu?
[18:41] <EriC^^> reset?
[18:41] <sudormrf> EriC^^, yes.  I had mozc installed.  I removed it and all of its related packages.  restarted the computer, mozc still shows in the list.  it is not in the text entry settings list as a keyboard.
[18:44] <OpenSorce> 14.04 fresh install running lxde from the repos. On restart I have to log out and back in twice to get fonts and mouse cursor back to the right sizes. Any help?
[18:44] <lazlofalconi> Hey guys I just had a quick question, what's the actual name of the wifi manager in Ubuntu?
[18:45] <rww> lazlofalconi: NetworkManager
[18:45] <lazlofalconi> Oh cool, thanks, rww!
[18:46] <OpenSorce> I'm assuming it's some other settings outside of LXDE (I blame unity) but I can't find it.
[18:47] <antonio_> ciao
[18:47] <antonio_> 	/msg SKIPP3r|CiNe|10 xdcc send #159
[18:48] <rww> antonio_: No warez on this network.
[18:50] <nicomachus> OpenSorce: did you purge unity?
[18:51] <antonio_> 	/msg SKIPP3r|CiNe|10 xdcc send #154
[18:51] <solsTiCe> hi. I was doing a tutorial and I activated ip foward with sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/piv4/ip_forward. But forwarding didn't work. I even brought down the interface with network manager and reenabled (via nm-applet) but still nothing. what's wrong ?
[18:51] <OpenSorce> nicomachus, no we use Unity on another account.
[18:51] <nicomachus> ouch, that's tricky.
[18:51] <OpenSorce> It seems like Unity settings wouldn't affect an account that doesn't use it :-)
[18:53] <dhishinuevhe> hi world of geniuses..:))
[18:54] <bodhi_zazen> solsTiCe, YOU NEED TO ALLOW in iptables
[18:54] <OpenSorce> We are not geniuses. Our use of Unity on it's own should attest to that fact :-)
[18:55] <BluesKaj> dsfrank, flattery might get you some attention , but unless you state your issue these geniuses can't all be mind readers too :)
[18:55] <BluesKaj> err dh
[18:55] <dhishinuevhe> humble man.. but i agree..^^
[18:57] <sudormrf> EriC^^, suggestions?
[18:57] <solsTiCe> bodhi_zazen: I tried in an archlinux, and it works without any other settings that /p/s/n/i/ip_forward
[18:58] <solsTiCe> bodhi_zazen: iptables tables default policy are ACCEPT with no chain
[18:59] <bodhi_zazen> solsTiCe, http://askubuntu.com/questions/227369/how-can-i-set-my-linux-box-as-a-router-to-forward-ip-packets
[18:59] <bodhi_zazen> the iptables rules are there
[18:59] <bodhi_zazen> ubuntu != arch
[19:01] <racsox> how can i see command output by parts in terminal?
[19:01] <SchrodingersScat> racsox: can try piping into more or less, often less is more, command | less
[19:01] <solsTiCe> ubuntu = linux = arch
[19:01] <Jammerx2> sudormrf, you could try reinstalling the keyboard indicator (sudo apt-get install --reinstall indicator-keyboard) if that's where it's still showing
[19:02] <sudormrf> Jammerx2, thanks.  indicator-keyboard is the item that shows in the top panel near the clock/sound indicator, correct?
[19:02] <racsox> SchrodingersScat: thankssss
[19:02] <Jammerx2> sudormrf, yeah
[19:02] <sudormrf> trying that now
[19:04] <sudormrf> Jammerx2, would I need to restart anything after reinstalling?
[19:04] <Jammerx2> sudormrf, maybe, not sure. You can try running killall indicator-keyboard-service.
[19:05] <sudormrf> Jammerx2, thanks.
[19:05] <sudormrf> hmm.  didn't kill anything.  will restart the computer.
[19:05] <vey> I have: Mint 17 + Xonar Essence STX sound card. Anyone know how to control the soundcard's impedance setting in pulseaudio?
[19:08] <k1l_> !mint | vey
[19:08] <sudormrf> Jammerx2, didn't work
[19:09] <Jammerx2> What shows up under text entry in your settings?
[19:11] <sudormrf> Jammerx2, took some screenshots, sec.
[19:12] <dbarros> how to keep uninstalling a whole set of packages if there are 'missing packages installed' in your command line?
[19:13] <t-dubs> Hey, I am having trouble with the software center, I keep getting this message: Failed to download package files, check your  Internet connection, when trying to download a game..
[19:14] <barballs> So i used a live cd to get a critial file off the HD. Can I use the CD to recover the install? (it's the full disk encrypted with the password prompt not showing up, 14.04)
[19:15] <t-dubs> I'm obviously connected to the internet..
[19:16] <t-dubs> And, I am also having trouble updating, too.. I keep getting a "waiting for headers" message
[19:17] <t-dubs> Any idea what gives?
[19:18] <t-dubs> Thanks in advance, guys!!
[19:19] <Marvin> .
[19:21] <Micek> .
[19:22] <geitda> t-dubs: Do you have IPv6 configured, but your IPv6 connectivity is down? I've experienced that first-hand
[19:23] <meganerd> geitda: t-dubs +1 for checking IPv6, I have also experienced this first hand
[19:24] <meganerd> t-dubs: if you are not intentionally making use of IPv6, "sudo ip -6 route del default" should clear up this issue.
[19:25] <meganerd> t-dubs: google is probably also slow since they offer IPv6 for most of their services (and your system will try IPv6 first)
[19:25] <sudormrf> Jammerx2, sorry, took a sec
[19:25] <sudormrf> uploading to imgur
[19:26] <sudormrf> Jammerx2, http://i.imgur.com/PHgySaM.png mozc-jp should not be there
[19:26] <sudormrf> the packages have all been removed
[19:28] <adrian__> Some commands?
[19:28] <trism> sudormrf: dconf-editor org/gnome/desktop/input-sources/sources is mozc-jp listed?
[19:28] <sudormrf> trism, let me check
[19:28] <t-dubs> geitda, sorr4y for the delay, had to let the dog out!
[19:29] <t-dubs> let me read backoverr what youy said lol
[19:30] <sudormrf> trism, yes.
[19:31] <johnzb> Hi. I just installed Ubuntu Server. During installation, it detected my usb wifi card and connected to my network via wlan0. After installation, when I logged into the server and ran ifconfig, it did not show wlan0. It only shows lo. When I try to ping, it says network unreachable. lsusb shows the usb wifi card. Any idea what I should do?
[19:32] <trism> sudormrf: probably got messed up somehow if you removed the packages before removing the method, you can probably just delete the tuple ('ibus','mozc-jp') and it will disappear
[19:32] <sudormrf> trism, trying that now :)
[19:32] <trism> sudormrf: might need to: restart unity-panel-service; afterwards
[19:33] <OpenSorce> Where Unity hide it's font and mouse pointer settings?
[19:33] <sudormrf> trism, hmm. running dconf-editor as root, removed the line.  don't see a way to save it.  clicked off of it, clicked back and it is back in there
[19:33] <t-dubs> OK, geitda, i tried entering your terminal command, but,  I get the following output: RTNETLINK answers: No such fikle or directitry..
[19:33] <sudormrf> oh
[19:33] <sudormrf> derp
[19:33] <t-dubs> Is that what you were expecting?
[19:34] <Shoe14> guys, /etc/grub.conf or /boot/grub/menu.lst isnt on my system
[19:34] <Shoe14> where do i add entries?
[19:34] <johnzb> My etc/network/interfaces only lists auto lo, iface, lo, inet, loopback, so I guess that's a problem.
[19:35] <sudormrf> trism, hmm.
[19:35] <ataalik> Hello, we are looking to hold a conference on mobile technologies and development and want to possibly invite someone from canonical to talk about Ubuntu Phone. Do you have any idea who should I contact
[19:36] <sudormrf> there we go
[19:36] <popey> ataalik: hey, what country and when?
[19:36] <trism> sudormrf: why are you running it as root?
[19:36] <trism> sudormrf: it is a user-setting
[19:36] <sudormrf> trism, thought I had to.
[19:36] <popey> ataalik: better off talking in #ubuntu-touch - want to join me there?
[19:36] <sudormrf> trism, it's all working now
[19:36] <sudormrf> :D
[19:36] <sudormrf> thank you!
[19:37] <trism> sudormrf: np, glad it's fixed
[19:37] <t-dubs> Or meganerd
[19:37] <t-dubs> Either one of you guys still there?
[19:37] <MonkeyDust> ataalik  scroll down http://www.canonical.com/about
[19:40] <geitda> t-dubs: I personally tend to bring up Wireshark and watch for what's going on right at the network level to troubleshoot something as generic as "Check your internet connection"
[19:40] <Bashing-om> Shoe14: You must be looking at old docs, 'buntu now uses grub2.
[19:41] <Bashing-om> !grub | Shoe14
[19:41] <MonkeyDust> Shoe14  what's the outcome of   cat /etc/issue
[19:42] <t-dubs> OK, so,, how do i do that?
[19:43] <Bashing-om> johnzb: Do you have accrss to a wired connection ? then see what "Additional Drivers" offers for wireless drivers .
[19:44] <t-dubs> oh yeah, and geitda, were you expecting this to be my terminal output to the that command: RTNETLINK answers: No such file or directory
[19:45] <geitda> t-dubs: If you're not already familiar with Wireshark then it's overkill for your situation. I'd say reset network devices like any modems or routers if you haven't already.
[19:46] <t-dubs> I have, and, like I said, my internet is obviously working, geitda
[19:46] <t-dubs> Geitda: I'll brb in about 2 minutes
[19:48] <t-dubs> geitda: I have returned... duh duh daahhh
[19:48] <geitda> t-dubs: try sudo netstat -rn6 and look for the line that says ::/0
[19:49] <t-dubs> ok..
[19:49] <geitda> t-dubs: the last part of that line should say lo (for loopback)
[19:50] <t-dubs> OK.. I found it..
[19:50] <t-dubs> geitda, I found it, that is..
[19:51] <geitda> t-dubs: if you see Ifs (interfaces) other than lo for the other lines let me know what the first part of the line says
[19:52] <t-dubs> If i see interlaces?
[19:53] <geitda> t-dubs: e.g. my only other interface is eth0 and I have two lines that end in eth0
[19:53] <t-dubs> I'm ohh
[19:53] <t-dubs> ok
[19:54] <t-dubs> Yeah. Inhave 0n wlan 0, three "lo"'s, another wlan0, and one more lo
[19:55] <t-dubs> Or, is thawt not what you're loking for
[19:55] <rhapsody> hello is this where i can ask a ? regarding my ubuntu system?
[19:56] <MonkeyDust> rhapsody  let's hear it, in one line
[19:56] <geitda> t-dubs: That's correct. Is the first part of those two lines "fe80::/64" and "ff00::/8"?
[19:57] <rhapsody> attempting to do an apt-get on 14.04 system and I get 403  Forbidden [IP: 146.137.96.7 80]
[19:57] <Bashing-om> rhapsody: Yes, ask your question .
[19:57] <rhapsody> I have tried nearly everything
[19:57] <MonkeyDust> rhapsody  also changed the apt mirror?
[19:58] <rhapsody> several times, no good
[19:58] <t-dubs> The first part is right.. the second part IS there, but, not untilthe second wlan0
[19:58] <MonkeyDust> rhapsody  what was the exact command?
[19:58] <rhapsody> "sudo apt-get update"
[19:59] <geitda> t-dubs: OK, then it's not IPv6 messing you up. I'm afraid I don't have any additional insight. You should reiterate your problem if any one else can assist.
[19:59] <MonkeyDust> rhapsody  is that the same pc you are using for this irc?
[20:00] <t-dubs> OK, thanks a lot, geitda!!
[20:00] <rhapsody> monkeydust yes it is, but I have restarted
[20:00] <t-dubs> Thanks for trying!!
[20:01] <MonkeyDust> rhapsody  and you can't apt-get update at all? or do you see it somewhere in the list?
[20:01] <geitda> rhapsody: it's the specific mirror; 146.137.96.7 is mirror.anl.gov which stopped service February 1
[20:02] <rhapsody> monkeydust  i get hits, but the errors begin at Err http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty/main amd64 Packages 403  Forbidden [IP: 146.137.96.7 80]
[20:02] <geitda> rhapsody: check http://mirror.anl.gov/ for details
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> rhapsody  what geitda says: http://146.137.96.7/
[20:03] <rhapsody> geitda and monkeydust, how can i point to something different?  it seems to be resolving on the backend so i am unsure how to do this
[20:03] <victor__> do any of you have experience with i3?
[20:03] <victor__> whenever i try to add in a font color in the bar {} i get a syntax error
[20:04] <MonkeyDust> rhapsody  define "something different"?
[20:05] <rhapsody> monkeydust  how can i use a different mirror?  when i change the software source, the error persists
[20:06] <MonkeyDust> rhapsody  system settings > Software & Updates > Download from
[20:07] <BluesKaj> rhapsody, after changing the repos mirror did you apt-get update?
[20:07] <rhapsody> monkeydust i mean where do i go to actually tell it to 'stop using the  146.137.96.7 is mirror.anl.gov?'
[20:07] <rhapsody> monkeydust and blueskaj i have changed it and the update fails on the same line, with the same message
[20:08] <rhapsody> monkeydust and blueskaj i just set it back to the main server && reran the update and same thing
[20:08] <MonkeyDust> rhapsody  i guess you have to remove the source frmm the "othersoftware" tab
[20:08] <falcon_> ffff
[20:09] <rhapsody> monkeydust  i removed all sources there already...the list is empty
[20:09] <zerowaitstate> rhapsody: what happens you do this from the command line: nslookup archive.ubuntu.com?
[20:10] <zerowaitstate> rhapsody: or "dig archive.ubuntu.com" if you have that
[20:10] <rhapsody> zerowaitstate the first command resolves archive.ubuntu.com to  91.189.91.15
[20:10] <mbffff> hello! I am running Ubuntu 14.04 LTS 64bit server and Samba 4 is causing 100% cpu usage
[20:10] <mbffff> Anyone else having this issue or an idea for a fix
[20:11] <rhapsody> zerowaitstate the second  command also returns
[20:11] <MonkeyDust> mbffff  there's also #ubuntu-server
[20:11] <rhapsody> zerowaitstate the dig returns an answer with a few diff ip addresses
[20:11] <BluesKaj> rhapsody, do you still have the "extras" repos enabled, if so uncheckeck it
[20:12] <mbffff> Corey84: Thanks. Just asked there too
[20:12] <rhapsody> blueskaj when you say "extras" which tab are you referring?
[20:12] <mbffff> MonkeyDust:  Thanks. Just asked there too  ... haha wrong name
[20:12] <Corey84> tab complete fail?
[20:13] <rhapsody> blueskaj under software sources, i have canonical main, community universe, and the multiverse selected
[20:13] <mbffff> something like that....
[20:13] <rhapsody> blueskaj the other software tab is empty
[20:13] <BluesKaj> the extras repos is no longer active afaik this one, deb http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu utopic main , rhapsody
[20:14] <zerowaitstate> rhapsody: sorry, I am new to this convo so I apologize if I'm asking redundant stuff. Can you pastebin your /var/log/apt/term.log?
[20:14] <rhapsody> blueskaj, should i look in the sources.list for that repo?  it is not under software sources
[20:14] <BluesKaj> rhapsody, yes
[20:14] <rhapsody> zerowaitstate, i can do that in one min
[20:15] <rhapsody> blueskaj, i will do that now
[20:15] <rhapsody> blueskaj, that line does not exist
[20:16] <BluesKaj> rhapsody, it will have your OS version if you're not on 14.10 utopic
[20:16] <rhapsody> zerowaitstate, the url for the /var/log/apt/termlog is here:  http://pastebin.com/Gb8Gch7V
[20:17] <rhapsody> BluesKaj, I searched the sources.list for any lines containing extras.ubuntu.com and nothing came back
[20:17] <rhapsody> i am on trust tahir
[20:19] <mfaroukg> does network-manager overwrite /etc/network/interfaces ?
[20:20] <BluesKaj> mfaroukg, yes it does thru resolv.conf
[20:21] <mfaroukg> BluesKaj, what happens if I remove network-manager? there is nothing to manager the interfaces?
[20:22] <mfaroukg> I lost connection with remote ubuntu server
[20:23] <mfaroukg> my server located in far end of Cairo and I need to go there :(
[20:24] <rhapsody> BluesKaj, zerowaitstate, MonkeyDust  i have also pasted my attempts at performing an apt-get update   http://pastebin.com/ySncq0Rr
[20:25] <zerowaitstate> rhapsody: are you behind a proxy?
[20:25] <rhapsody> zerowaitstate, nah
[20:26] <rhapsody> zerowaitstate, just a router to the internet
[20:26] <BluesKaj> mfaroukg, you can setup /etc/network/interfaces to run an ethernet connection, but connecting to a remote location with network manager is much easier, depending on the tunneling app you use
[20:27] <BluesKaj> rhapsody, are you on workplace WAN ?
[20:27] <rhapsody> BluesKaj, not at all, I am at my place of residence
[20:28] <MonkeyDust> mfaroukg  is this useful https://www.howtoforge.com/tutorial/howto-set-a-static-ip-on-ubuntu/
[20:28] <lesshaste> kile crashes every time at startup but says there are no debug symbols installed. This is on ubuntu 14.04 . What can I do?
[20:28] <cluelessperson> I'm having a problem trying to install ubuntu server 14.04  It won't detect the hard drive
[20:29] <cluelessperson> Why is my life so much suck righ tnow
[20:29] <EriC^^> cluelessperson: was it gpt and now msdos?
[20:29] <DrGrov> Can I install the full KDE on top of Xubuntu 14.04 LTS without breaking dependencies or interfering with installation?
[20:30] <BluesKaj> rhapsody, is there college or university repos near you that does ubuntu repos hosting
[20:30] <cluelessperson> EriC^^: no  I JUST installed ubuntu-server on it, now I'm reinstalling, and it won't detect it
[20:30] <cluelessperson> EriC^^:   I take out the install cd and it boots fine
[20:30]  * cluelessperson is freaking out
[20:30] <MonkeyDust> DrGrov  yes, install kubuntu-desktop
[20:30] <EriC^^> cluelessperson: check /var/log/kern.log
[20:31] <EriC^^> cluelessperson: sudo parted -l doesn't detect it?
[20:31] <cluelessperson> EriC^^: I don't know how  I'm  at the server install gui
[20:31] <rhapsody> BluesKaj, there is a public university around but I doubt that it hosts.  Is there a quick way for me to check aside from google searching?
[20:31] <cluelessperson> I'm not a sysadmin
[20:31] <EriC^^> cluelessperson: press ctrl+alt+f1 or something
[20:32] <cluelessperson> EriC^^: okay, in console
[20:32] <cluelessperson> EriC^^: says parted not found
[20:32] <EriC^^> the command?
[20:32] <EriC^^> try sudo lsblk -f
[20:32] <lesshaste> is there any way for me to at least submit a useful bug report?
[20:32] <EriC^^> or cat /proc/partitions
[20:33] <rhapsody> BluesKaj, MonkeyDust zerowaitstate   I should mention that this problem likely occured after I mistakenly accepted the Ubuntu updates when prompted and restarted my computer....
[20:33] <EriC^^> !bug | lesshaste
[20:33] <MonkeyDust> !bug | lesshaste
[20:33] <lesshaste> EriC^^,  the point is that there are no debug symbols
[20:33] <MonkeyDust> oops, EriC^^ was faster
[20:33] <BluesKaj> rhapsody, check in the package manager software sources/server for XXXX, choose other to see what's listed
[20:34] <BluesKaj> rhapsody, then click the "choose best server" button if there is one
[20:35] <mfaroukg> BluesKaj, once I apt-get remove network-manager I lost connection with the server ssh user@publicIP , the link is very good and I did the following http://pastebin.com/718yDVqu but it disconnected
[20:35] <lesshaste> is there an ubuntu kde channel?
[20:35] <BluesKaj> rhapsody, accepting ubuntu updates shouldn't have broken your sources.list
[20:35] <EriC^^> lesshaste: #kubuntu
[20:35] <DrGrov> MonkeyDust: I can't install kde-full just in case?
[20:35] <jack__> ciao
[20:35] <rhapsody> BluesKaj, okay just checking.  It is selecting a best server as we speak
[20:36] <lesshaste> EriC^^,  ok thanks. it is completely dead
[20:36] <jack__> ahì na mà
[20:36] <MonkeyDust> DrGrov  not sure, but also try plasma
[20:36] <glitchd> can anyone here help me with writing a script?
[20:37] <EriC^^> glitchd: most likely yes, it'd be better to ask in the script's specific channel
[20:37] <dixie___> what do you need help with?
[20:37] <rhapsody> BluesKaj, I now have  a new server that I am pointing to, but I am still getting the same message when attempting to update
[20:37] <glitchd> EriC^^, been there, done that. now im here.
[20:37] <MonkeyDust> glitchd  what coding language?
[20:37] <BluesKaj> mfaroukg, I use a vpn , but not with the interfaces file, network manager works 99% of the time for me.  Maybe your remote target isn't available
[20:37] <EriC^^> glitchd: hmm, #bash is friendly
[20:38] <glitchd> MonkeyDust, im assuming bash, or maybe python, either of which im not familiar with..
[20:38] <zerowaitstate> rhapsody: wow; is it the same IP address as well?
[20:38] <DrGrov> MonkeyDust: But kubuntu-desktop will be a safe bet in this case? The reason I ask is since now it seems like my composite in Xubuntu 14.04 is working as intended and the nVidia card, due to the latest update a while back of the nVidia drivers, seems to be working well so I could switch up to something more of an eyecandy-based desktop environment
[20:38] <glitchd> let me explain a little further..
[20:38] <rhapsody> zerowaitstate, yes it is Forbidden [IP: 146.137.96.7 80]
[20:39] <mfaroukg> BluesKaj, I will go there in the morning :( and I will post here the update
[20:39] <svetlana> DrGrov: try it -- never too late to uninstall kubuntu-desktop if you dislike it.
[20:39] <zerowaitstate> rhapsody: what is the DNS name on that line that it is going to?
[20:39] <glitchd> im trying to write a script that will 1) start my minecraft server in a terminal window 2)keep the terminal window open but minimize it, and when i close the window it saves and kills the server.
[20:39] <Bashing-om> rhapsody: BluesKaj :: iptables blocking ?
[20:39] <DrGrov> svetlana: True that. The reason I asked since I do not want to have too much interference with Xubuntu by running KDE
[20:39] <glitchd> is that possible?
[20:39] <dixie___> DrGrov: dump your gui all together!
[20:39] <DrGrov> dixie___: Never!
[20:40] <mfaroukg> BluesKaj, but the ip is bingable
[20:40] <svetlana> DrGrov: XFCE and KDE work okay when installed together, in my experience.
[20:40] <MonkeyDust> dixie___  that's no advice
[20:40] <mfaroukg> I am getting crazy
[20:40] <glitchd> EriC^^,  MonkeyDust  im trying to write a script that will 1) start my minecraft server in a terminal window 2)keep the terminal window open but minimize it, and when i close the window it saves and kills the server.
[20:40] <DrGrov> svetlana: Ok, that settles it then. Kubuntu-desktop I will try and see what happens. Uninstalling is always a possibility anyhow as you said.
[20:41] <glitchd> EriC^^,  MonkeyDust * im trying to write a script that will 1) start my minecraft server in a terminal window 2)keep the terminal window open but minimize it, and 3)when i close the window it saves and kills the server.
[20:41] <rhapsody> zerowaitstate, it reflects the new server:  Err http://mirrors.liquidweb.com trusty/main amd64 Packages  403  Forbidden [IP: 146.137.96.7 80]
[20:41] <mfaroukg> other servers are working fine, I am worried maybe more apps need to be installed aside of network-manager
[20:41] <glitchd> sry for the double post..
[20:41] <BluesKaj> rhapsody, check this out http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[20:41] <rhapsody> Bashing-om, It could be, but I do not know how to check
[20:41] <dixie___> getting rid of your gui is great advice.  nothing on eath better to get to know how everything really works than to see it.
[20:41] <MonkeyDust> glitchd  with 'screen' command, you can close you terminal window, without killing the running process
[20:41] <cluelessperson> I'm installing ubuntu-server 14.04 LTS, and it will not detect the hard drive to install on.  I'm feraking out
[20:41] <ubuntu-studio> help
[20:42] <EriC^^> glitchd: i assume this is supposed to start by itself when the pc starts?
[20:42] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu-studio  start with a question
[20:42] <ubuntu-studio> am booting from usb cant get persistent?
[20:42] <cluelessperson> my boss is breathing down my neck
[20:42] <MonkeyDust> !persistent | ubuntu-studio
[20:42] <artisanIndia> I dont have a domain name assinged to my ubuntu server I am testing a node.js app which need https://myip
[20:42] <Bashing-om> rhapsody: BluesKaj :: Have you set up any rules (udw) from that of default ?
[20:42] <DrGrov> MonkeyDust: Before I install kubuntu-desktop, can you verify it works to just remove the metapackage kubuntu-desktop or should I have to write down all the packages it will install?
[20:42] <rhapsody> BluesKaj, this looks interesting, too bad there is not a button to set the default values!  I will select what I think best fits
[20:42] <artisanIndia> how do I achieve ?
[20:42] <artisanIndia>  I dont have a domain name assinged to my ubuntu server I am testing a node.js app which need https://myip
[20:43] <svetlana> artisanIndia: supply it with an ip, or get a free domain nameat freedns.
[20:43] <ubuntu-studio> can i enable persistent without creating a new usb stick?
[20:43] <svetlana> artisanIndia: I suspect supplying it with an ip might work though.
[20:43] <rhapsody> Bashing-om, I do not believe I have but how can I test?  I do not even have the udw command installed...if there is one
[20:43] <artisanIndia> any quick tutorial ?
[20:43] <artisanIndia> http://qugstart.com/blog/linux/quickest-way-to-create-a-self-signed-ssl-certificate-in-ubuntu/
[20:43] <MonkeyDust> DrGrov  i'm not following
[20:43] <glitchd> EriC^^, not specifically, ideally i would like to have menu entries to start,stop, and restart the server.
[20:43] <artisanIndia> is ^^ sufficient ?
[20:43] <dixie___> glitchd: I don't play minecraft, but what you're looking for is something akin to minecraft & minecraft=$!; function clean() { cp minecraft_file minecraft_file_backup && kill -9 $minecraft }
[20:43] <DrGrov> MonkeyDust: Well, let's say I am not too fond of KDE and want to revert to the current state I am in with XFCE.
[20:44] <mfaroukg>  cluelessperson, what is the fdisk -l says ?
[20:44] <lesshaste> is there a SE where one can report crashes in installed linux software?
[20:44] <DrGrov> MonkeyDust: Then it is enough to simply remove the kubuntu-desktop metapackage?
[20:44] <ubuntu-studio> is it possible to enable persistent without reinstalling ubuntu to my usb stick
[20:44] <glitchd> dixie___, that lost me..
[20:44] <dixie___> glitchd: obviously there's a bit more to it than that, but that should get you started
[20:44] <glitchd> dixie___, is that python scripting?
[20:44] <dixie___> bash
[20:44] <cluelessperson> mfaroukg: I don't know, I don't know how to get where I can enter that, I'm not a sysadmin
[20:44] <glitchd> dixie___, hardcord noob here, trying to learn as i go along..
[20:44] <Jammerx2> glitch, if you want a console window open and save on close the minecraft server gui would work.
[20:44] <cluelessperson> mfaroukg: I'm at the ubuntu installation gui and it just says it can't detect the isk
[20:45] <MonkeyDust> DrGrov  why remove it, if you want to install it?
[20:45] <DrGrov> MonkeyDust: Well I just mean that I want to save up some extra space
[20:45] <mfaroukg> ctrl+alt F1
[20:45] <zerowaitstate> rhapsody: try this: change the targets in your sources.list to us.archive.ubuntu.com.  In your /etc/hosts file, set the IP for us.archive.ubuntu.com to one of the ones in this query: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10209968/
[20:45] <dixie___> basically, you're starting minecraft, storing it's pid, then waiting for it to exit, and calling a cleanup function that stores your file, and kills minecraft.
[20:45] <rhapsody> zerowaitstate, standby
[20:46] <dixie___> oh, add trap cleanup EXIT to the end
[20:46] <Bashing-om> rhapsody: Typo - udw/ufw* .. anyway, one can disable the firewall and see then if you can get out. For now, another test that you do get out -> ping -c3 ubuntu.com <- .
[20:46] <glitchd> Jammerx2, yes but when i run the gui my system slows so i prefer to have it either run in the background and have an icon to stop it. or alternativily, have it start in a terminal window that i can close to kill the server.
[20:46] <mfaroukg>  cluelessperson, try to go to tty1
[20:46] <DrGrov> MonkeyDust: But it is no worries, I have enough space hopefully for the install. Just wanted to revert back to the current Xubuntu without KDE elements if I am not thrilled about KDE.
[20:46] <DrGrov> MonkeyDust: But nevermind, it is okay. I will test it out and see what happens and how I like it.
[20:46] <MonkeyDust> DrGrov  then try it first, with a live usb
[20:47] <zerowaitstate> Bashing-om: I'm not sure why his DNS queries are resolving to that IPO anyway
[20:47] <DrGrov> MonkeyDust: So I can not try it and remove all packages or?
[20:48] <MonkeyDust> DrGrov  it's faster easier and more efficient to use a live usb stick
[20:48] <Bashing-om> zerowaitstate: I too am curious as to what is taking place .. Right now I do not know ..
[20:48] <mfaroukg> BluesKaj, what is the average time for ubuntu to reset ?
[20:48] <buddd> i used the ubuntu software downloader to install postgres but i can't find the program anywhere and it didn't ask me for any details
[20:49] <DrGrov> MonkeyDust: So, what you are saying is that I can not remove the kubuntu-desktop if I install it?
[20:49] <ubuntu-studio> the forum on usb pen making is convoluted and indirect, I had a persistent usb then i updatewd my usb drive to ubuntu studio and lost the ability to save applications there must be a way to do this
[20:49] <cluelessperson> mfaroukg: The ubuntu server boots up fine, but doesn't detect disks when I try to reinstall it
[20:49] <MonkeyDust> DrGrov  remove the meta package, then apt-get autoremove
[20:49] <realityphantom> oin #infonomicon
[20:49] <DrGrov> MonkeyDust: Great, that is what I want to know. So it works :) Thank you.
[20:49] <cluelessperson> mfaroukg:   I just want to reset mysql installation, but apparently everything is difficult in linux. >.<
[20:50] <rhapsody> zerowaitstate, do i need to run an update command after doing this?
[20:50] <realityphantom> woops!
[20:50] <zerowaitstate> rhapsody: yeah, let me know what you get
[20:51] <rhapsody> Bashing-om, 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2002ms
[20:51] <zerowaitstate> rhapsody: are you on satellite?
[20:51] <rhapsody> no
[20:51] <realityphantom> screw this, I'm reinstalling XP
[20:51] <zerowaitstate> darn
[20:51] <rhapsody> zerowaitstate, hell no
[20:51] <bynarie> XP?
[20:51] <bynarie> are u kidding me
[20:52] <bekks> bynarie: He's gone.
[20:52] <MonkeyDust> bynarie  i have XP in vbox, it's the online windows i can love
[20:52] <MonkeyDust> online = only
[20:52] <EriC^^> win98se ftw
[20:52] <Bashing-om> rhapsody: k, still scrathing my head on this not able to see update servers !
[20:52] <glitchd> welp, thx anyways everyone.
[20:53] <bynarie> winblows != good... ubuntu/linux == awesome
[20:53] <rhapsody> zerowaitstate, i saved the file and attempted to do an apt-get update and i have the same thing error 403
[20:53] <ubuntu-studio> went to the link for usb penmaking can i recreate my pendrive from a live environment
[20:53] <zerowaitstate> same IP address?
[20:53] <ubuntu-studio> ?
[20:53] <rhapsody> zerowaitstate, the ip is unchanged.  maybe i should copy my host file to verify
[20:53] <MonkeyDust> !persistent | ubuntu-studio
[20:54] <EriC^^> ubuntu-studio: in the time you've been asking this question, you could have recreated the installation about 20 times
[20:54] <mfaroukg>  cluelessperson, I am confused a bit, are you able to shell from your installation usb ?
[20:54] <ubuntu-studio> from a live session?
[20:54] <EriC^^> ubuntu-studio: no just use unetbootin to make the live usb and give it a size for persistence at the bottom
[20:55] <cluelessperson> mfaroukg: yes
[20:55] <rhapsody> zerowaitstate, my /etc/hosts  http://pastebin.com/pgv4r37F
[20:55] <cluelessperson> mfaroukg:   It boots up fine into ubuntu server, but the livecd install doesn't detect the hard drive?
[20:55] <rhapsody> Bashing-om, I appreciate it
[20:55] <EriC^^> ubuntu-studio: you dont have an os on your pc?
[20:55] <ubuntu-studio> unetbootin works from linux?
[20:55] <zerowaitstate> rhapsody: if you do nslookup us.archive.ubuntu.com, what do you get?
[20:55] <EriC^^> ( or any other pc )
[20:55] <EriC^^> ubuntu-studio: it is for linux
[20:55] <mfaroukg>  cluelessperson, can you pastebin sudo lsblk -o NAME,FSTYPE,SIZE,MOUNTPOINT,LABEL
[20:55] <ubuntu-studio> i dont have an os while i was installing ubuntu studio the installation failed to install on my harddrive
[20:56] <Bashing-om> rhapsody: zerowaitstate :: take a look at the sources.list file(s) see if we can spot an annomoly ?
[20:56] <EriC^^> ubuntu-studio: why?
[20:56] <ubuntu-studio> now i only have an os on a 4gb pendrive
[20:56] <EriC^^> why'd it fail?
[20:56] <MonkeyDust> mfaroukg  lsblk dosnt require sudo, blkid does
[20:56] <ubuntu-studio> the hard drive has bad sectors
[20:57] <tumbl3r> rhapsody: does it hang at 0%?
[20:57] <zerowaitstate> rhapsody: also pastebin the output of your last apt-get update run
[20:57] <rhapsody> zerowaitstate, nslookup http://pastebin.com/JEJPhP94
[20:57] <EriC^^> ubuntu-studio: did you try to get them with badblocks and fsck it again ?
[20:57] <EriC^^> ubuntu-studio: just until you get a new drive
[20:57] <rhapsody> tumbl3r, please explain?
[20:57] <dixie___> ubuntu-studio: you can also use dd to write .iso images to usb sticks.  dd if=/your/image.iso of=/dev/sdb where sdb is your usb stick.  It works in a pinch, but it can't handle anything fancy like multiboot usb sticks or persistence.  but it does work, and it can get a system up and running for you pretty quickly.  I use ubuntu mini.isos like this.  works great
[20:57] <rhapsody> Bashing-om, I will paste my sources.list in one min
[20:57] <jhutchins> ubuntu-studio: Are you thinking of pendrivelinux.com?
[20:58] <cluelessperson> mfaroukg:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/10210137/
[20:58] <tumbl3r> rhapsody: sry i came in half way into the conversation was just wondering if your problem was apt-get hanging at 0% connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[20:58] <jhutchins> ubuntu-studio: They have some images that are optimized for USB.
[20:58] <zerowaitstate> tumbl3r: he is getting a 403
[20:58] <cluelessperson> mfaroukg: That disk is 32 GB
[20:58] <tumbl3r> ah
[20:58] <zerowaitstate> his apt-get is going to a weird IP for some reason
[20:59] <rhapsody> zerowaitstate, Bashing-om tumbl3r  my sources.list http://pastebin.com/eVwQMFJa
[21:00] <mfaroukg>  cluelessperson, did you try to format the hdd ? it shows only 8G
[21:00] <Bashing-om> zerowaitstate: rhapsody why the local loop back in 'nsloolup' rather then the DNS nameserver ?
[21:00] <rhapsody> zerowaitstate, Bashing-om tumbl3r  my apt-get update http://pastebin.com/pEP9HNY4
[21:00] <dixie___> ubuntu-studio: there are images optimized to be run from usb sticks, but in my expirience you're better off using live images in emergency/recovery situations and using a native install for everyday use.  you're going to take a pretty signifigant performance hit with a live system, and they're notious for just not working quite right.
[21:00] <rhapsody> Bashing-om, which line?
[21:00] <tumbl3r> rhapsody: have you checked your hosts file
[21:00] <Bashing-om> rhapsody: lookin at your sources.list.
[21:00] <zerowaitstate> tumbl3r: yeah
[21:01] <zerowaitstate> tumbl3r: we actually edited it, but it is being ignored
[21:01] <rhapsody> Bashing-om, what was the ufw command you wanted me to try?
[21:02] <Bashing-om> rhapsody: MY 'nslookup' -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10210178/ see the top 2 lines .
[21:02] <zerowaitstate> rhapsody: for grins, do this: ps aux | grep dnsmasq
[21:02] <tumbl3r> have you already checked the nsswitch file (/etc/nsswitch.conf)?
[21:02] <cluelessperson> mfaroukg:   No, I told the previous instalation to just use the entire drive
[21:03] <cluelessperson> mfaroukg: my guess is it doesn't recognzie the SSD correctly
[21:03] <zerowaitstate> rhapsody: or alternatively, pgrep -a dnsmasq
[21:03] <Mony> hey guys i have some weird problem with 14.04lts update... after the update non irc related stuff works. irssi times out. znc timesout. but if i try to telnet the server it connects....
[21:03] <rhapsody> zero I ran the ps aux | grep dnsmasq command http://pastebin.com/dS65bSs4
[21:04] <tumbl3r> rhapsody: can you pastebin your /etc/nsswitch.conf file as well
[21:04] <rhapsody> Bashing-om, my nslookup DEF does not look like yours...it isn't going anywhere
[21:04] <dixie___> Mony: why are you connecting to a machine over telnet?
[21:05] <Mony> dixie___, i'm trying to connect to irc server over telnet :) u missunderstood me
[21:05] <zerowaitstate> tumbl3r: I haven't thought of that
[21:05] <rhapsody> tumbl3r, Bashing-om zerowaitstate  my /etc/nsswitch.conf http://pastebin.com/793tDc7r
[21:05] <dixie___> Mony: ahhh got it.
[21:06] <mbff> I have this Samba log that I can't figure out
[21:06] <mbff> http://pastebin.com/WR0iAFA5
[21:06] <mbff> Anyone know what the actual error I should worry about
[21:06] <mbff> ?
[21:07] <mbff> I am still getting 1 core 100% usage while copying one file
[21:07] <zerowaitstate> rhapsody: is this on a vm?
[21:07] <rhapsody> zerowaitstate, i wish it were but no
[21:08] <dixie___> Mony: that can certainly be done.  sounds more like you're having trouble with irssi and znc than anything.  have you tried other irc clients?  i'm quite fond of erc.  it's part of emacs, and it's never failed to work on a machine that emacs will run on and I can establish a network connection with.  Another favorite which is actually extremely system resouce efficient is called ii.  you should try them both.
[21:08] <mfaroukg>  cluelessperson, http://www.binarytides.com/linux-command-check-disk-partitions/  then try to format and mount the disk http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-disk-format/
[21:08] <dixie___> Mony: is irssi giving you any useful debugging output?
[21:11] <tumbl3r> rhapsody: and I assume internet is working on this PC?
[21:11] <rhapsody> tumbl3r, you assume correct
[21:12] <Mony> dixie___, well it was working like that for months. few days after the update the connection dropped and it cant reconnect. the strange thing is that irssi works over root, but not any user. iptables is not the issue (no owner rules and nothing edited for months)
[21:12] <tumbl3r> what does /etc/resolv.conf say for nameserver?
[21:12] <zerowaitstate> rhapsody: do the following: sudo netstat -l --numeric-ports -p
[21:12] <zerowaitstate> rhapsody: i'm curious which dnsmasq process is listening on 127.0.0.1
[21:13] <rhapsody> tumbl3r, nameserver 127.0.1.1
[21:13] <Mony> dixie___, no output just timeout. another strange thing is that i tried to run tcpdump. there is outgoing syn but no replay whatsoever
[21:13] <tumbl3r> that shouldn't be your nameserver unless you intended it that way
[21:13] <dixie___> Mony: that might be the server.
[21:13] <zerowaitstate> tumbl3r: that's normal on ubuntu
[21:13] <zerowaitstate> tumbl3r: ubuntu uses dnsmasq on the loopback interface for forwarding dns queries
[21:13] <rhapsody> zerowaitstate, standby
[21:13] <BlackVenom> Evening folks
[21:13] <Mony> tried like 5-6 freenode ones. if i try telnet blabla 6667 it connects
[21:14] <tumbl3r> zerowaitstate: ah, sry more of a RH/CentOS guy
[21:14] <BlackVenom> Anyone have any experience of setting up Deluge on Ubuntu Server?
[21:14] <zerowaitstate> tumbl3r: np, they are different a bit at the network tooling level
[21:14] <Mony> its blowing my mind
[21:14] <dixie___> Mony: I know a lot of irc server are now strictly enforcing sasl authentication now, and That would generate your problem.  But I would still think irssi should give you some useful output.
[21:15] <rhapsody> zerowaitstate, the netstat command results http://pastebin.com/5QfaCdxa
[21:15] <Mony> dixie___, not sasl problem. i will pastebin output in a sec
[21:16] <dixie___> Mony: you should google irccat really quick.  it's a bash script that will connect to an irc server with netcat.  That should atleast let you see what's happening behind the scenes.
[21:16] <bjensen82> I have 12.04LTS and I need to get mdbtools version 0.7.1, but its only located in the repo for 14.04lts, not 12.04lts. What can I do?
[21:18] <dixie___> bjensen82: see if you can find a git repo and build it from source
[21:19] <Mony> dixie___, will try. http://pastebin.com/jEb4k5Q7 over irssi i just get connecting and after some time timeout
[21:19] <MonkeyDust> bjensen82  maybe it's in the !backports
[21:19] <bynarie> i need help with oidentd and znc.. installed them, configed them, and no matter what user connects, the irc identd always shows "znc-admin@host", which znc-admin is a user on my server(ubuntu 14.04.1)
[21:19] <bynarie> any ideas how to set this up properly?
[21:20] <dixie___> Mony: that looks like a sasl error.
[21:21] <tumbl3r> openvpn script uses /lib/lsb/init-functions but only some functions work like log_action_msg works but not log_action_begin_msg.  If I rename log_action_begin_msg and add a letter to the end of it and call the new name it works.
[21:21] <Mony> dixie___, well it cant connect even to networks that dont support sasl
[21:21] <dixie___> Mony: what ircd are you using?
[21:22] <Mony> dixie___, not my network. some old ratbox version is on the other network.
[21:23] <Mony> dixie___, i'm suspecting that the problem lyes on some libs that both znc and irssi use. it can happen from nowhere
[21:23] <Mony> cant*
[21:23] <dixie___> Mony: ratbox and hybrid both enforce sasl now.  talk to the admin.  I've had very good results with ngircd
[21:24] <svetlana> Mony, that paste waits for you to send USER and NICK -- it is not indicative of SASL problems.
[21:24] <barballs> so long thanks for fish
[21:24] <Mony> svetlana, thats what i'm saying
[21:25] <svetlana> Mony: it's normal for an irc server to wait for you to send USER and NICK. IRC clients do that for you automatically.
[21:25] <Bashing-om> rhapsody: Question; is this a server with 'Network Manager'installed ? zerowaitstate ::( server blocking update ports ?)
[21:25] <Mony> svetlana, no no. the problem is that it doesnt connect at all over irssi or znc. it just timeouts. i'm showing that it WORKS over telnet.
[21:26] <dixie___> svetlana: that's the telnet output.  or course it's waiting for user and nick.  that's why I suggested irccat to debug the problem.
[21:26] <Mony> Irssi: Looking up 64.32.24.176
[21:26] <Mony> 23:18 -!- Irssi: Connecting to 64.32.24.176 [64.32.24.176] port 6667
[21:26] <Mony> -!- Irssi: Unable to connect server 64.32.24.176 port 6667 [Connection timed out]
[21:27] <dixie___> one sec.  I'm going to try to connect myself and see what happens.
[21:28] <Mony> dixie___, for some reason it works over root.
[21:28] <Mony> and nothing has been changed over the system for quite some time before the problem
[21:29] <dixie___> worked just fine for me.
[21:30] <dixie___> Mony: I'm still thinking sasl.
[21:30] <Mony> it doesnt get to the point to ask for sasl
[21:30] <dixie___> Mony: try another client.
[21:31] <dixie___> sasl's got to be pre-defined.
[21:31] <svetlana> Mony, dixie__: SASL and timeout are unrelated.
[21:31] <svetlana> Mony, dixie__: you will also get a timeout if you do not send user and nick.
[21:31] <k1l_> try another ip, or better the general freenode adress
[21:31] <Bashing-om> Mony: dixie___ :: /sasl set Freenode <primary-nick> <password> PLAIN <- ??
[21:32] <svetlana> Mony, dixie__: when irssi or znc timeout, like you pasted, it specifically indicates that the client did not receive a "looking up your hostname" line -- implying a networking issue, not a sasl issue and not a nick issue etc (NOT at the irc protocol level).
[21:32] <k1l_> and if it works for root its a user settings issue.
[21:32] <svetlana> Bashing-om: no.
[21:32] <svetlana> Mony, dixie__: the correct course of action in this case is trying to ping the server from the commandline on the same computer irssi is running on.
[21:33] <Ladon> I have 4 hard drives with media set up like /mnt/X/TV. I do not want to pool them as I want to keep things separate. How do I create symlinks for all of the content of /mnt/X/TV/* into a symlink-only folder /mnt/TV/?
[21:33] <Mony> svetlana, i have. and the telnet connects to the server under the same user
[21:33] <svetlana> Mony, dixie__: in addition to that, I would like to ask whether the ircd is running on the same box as ratbox or not.
[21:33] <Ladon> And is it possible to have that symlink update to always show the content of /mnt/X/TV if new subfolders are added?
[21:33] <svetlana> Mony, dixie__: *whether the irssi is running on the same box as ratbox or not.
[21:34] <Mony> svetlana, there is no ircd on this machine i cant connect to freenode or any other network
[21:34] <svetlana> Mony: telnet and irssi on the same computer, telnet works ok but irssi times out?
[21:34] <Mony> svetlana, yes
[21:34] <Mony> svetlana, and the same user
[21:34] <bekks> Ladon: sudo ln -s /mnt/X/TV /mnt/TV
[21:34] <svetlana> Mony: that's -highly- odd. I would ask #irssi for help.
[21:34] <dixie___> svetlana: I just connected to the server in question with 0 trouble with two different clients, both of which support sasl.  we know the server's visible from the connecting computer because of the nmap output, and we know it's reachable because of the telnet output.  what we don't know is what's happening behind the scenes.  and there's really only a few ways to find that out.  the easiest of which is to connect to the server with
[21:34] <dixie___> netcat.
[21:35] <svetlana> dixie__: it's a networking issue, the client does not even start talking irc.
[21:35] <Mony> svetlana, i agree but its not only irssi. znc also stopped connecting. there are few eggs on the same server. they cant connect either
[21:35] <Ladon> bekks, that just puts a TV folder in /mnt/TV
[21:35] <bekks> Ladon: Thats what you asked for,
[21:36] <Ladon> bekks, I want the subfolders to symlink in the /mnt/TV directory. I apologize for not being clear.
[21:36] <bekks> Ladon: you asked for a way to create /mnt/TV which points to /mnt/X/TV
[21:36] <Mony> tcpdump sees the outgoing syn but doesnt see any responce
[21:36] <CropsTafite> hi
[21:36] <bekks> Ladon: For subfolders, you need to do that manually, unfortunately.
[21:36] <dixie___> svetlana: seems like telnet does a fine job of resolving the server, but there's a reason we're not seeing that keeps irssi from doing the same.
[21:36] <CropsTafite> !list
[21:36] <svetlana> Mony: the computer with irssi and telnet on it is running ubuntu?
[21:37] <Ladon> oh damn. so what's the best way to sync the content of /mnt/X/TV/* to another folder? I want to pool access to the information without having all of my drives exposed.
[21:37] <svetlana> CropsTafite: hi! welcome to the ubuntu world domination project
[21:37] <dixie___> Mony: irccat.  it's going to show you everything, and it's a handy script to have around anyways.
[21:37] <CropsTafite> !akis
[21:37] <CropsTafite> !alis
[21:37] <Mony> 04 tls. it was working fine for months. the thing happened few days after update
[21:37] <rm200910> Ladon: you could script something if inclined. It might be fun
[21:37] <Mony> dixie___, i will try in few mins
[21:37] <bekks> Ladon: unionfs or aufs :)
[21:38] <NymeriaFR> Hello
[21:38] <NymeriaFR> http://hmarco.org/bugs/linux-ASLR-integer-overflow.html
[21:38] <imbezol> Ladon: no warranty on this but...
[21:38] <NymeriaFR> I'm on ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[21:38] <NymeriaFR> And i'm vulnerable
[21:38] <dixie___> Mony: svetlana: I know I had a few sasl issues when I upgraded some 14.04 installations a few months back.  I'm guessing it's the same issue.
[21:39] <imbezol> Ladon: find /mnt/TV -maxdepth 1 -mindepth 1 -type d -not -name TV | while read D ; do find "$D" -type f | while read F ; do ln -sf "$F" /mnt/TV ; done ; done
[21:39] <svetlana> dixie___: what were the symptoms? did you also not get a "looking up your hostname" message from server?
[21:39] <bekks> NymeriaFR: So wait for bugfix then.
[21:39] <imbezol> Ladon: that will not remove links for files that have disappeared, tho that should be easy to add to it
[21:40] <Ladon> thank you imbezol, I will try that out. bekks I will look into unionfs or aufs also!
[21:40] <jhutchins> Ladon: Or there's rsync.
[21:40] <Ladon> jhutchins, wouldn't that copy the files over?
[21:41] <Mony> dixie___, the old irccat on sf?
[21:41] <dixie___> svetlana: well I wasn't using telnet to try to connect, but I got the erc verion of the same errors.  my solution was to append my .authinfo file.  worked like a charm, however irssi is a different beast altogether.
[21:41] <imbezol> Ladon: actually you could probably do it a lot easier
[21:42] <svetlana> dixie___: did erc show an '*** looking up your hostname' etc lines when it wasn't working?
[21:43] <imbezol> Ladon: find /mnt/TV -type l -exec rm {} \; ; find /mnt/ -type f -exec ln -sf {} /mnt/TV \;
[21:43] <NymeriaFR> bekks, I'm just surprised ! It's a security issue and 1 month after it still not patched
[21:43] <imbezol> lots of ways to do it
[21:43] <zerowaitstate> rhapsody: what is the version of apt that you have?  command is dpkg-query -s apt
[21:43] <dixie___> Mony: I think I found it on github gist, but it's not really very complicated.  you're basically just piping user/nick/join stuff through an outbound nc connection.  You could probably just re-write it from scratch if you were so inclined.
[21:43] <bekks> NymeriaFR: Because kernel 3.19 isnt released yet. And the fix is in 3.19-rc3 as stated ion the link you posted.
[21:44] <BoyDark> hello
[21:44] <BoyDark> I can't find a guide to install cinelerra on my Ubuntu 64bit
[21:44] <BoyDark> Can you help me please?
[21:44] <NymeriaFR> I'm on "3.13.0-39-generic" and I am vulnerable
[21:45] <k1l_> NymeriaFR: vulnerable for what?
[21:45] <NymeriaFR> k1l_ : http://hmarco.org/bugs/linux-ASLR-integer-overflow.html
[21:45] <dixie___> Mony: but if it is a sasl issue, you'll see the server complain about lack of ident, and then kick you out the same way as telnet is, but you'll see an error specifically about sasl.  I think it gave me an error code, but same thing
[21:45] <Ladon> oh, guys, lndir!
[21:45] <k1l_> NymeriaFR: is there a cve?
[21:45] <Ladon> lndir worked!
[21:46] <bekks> NymeriaFR: And the fix is in 3.19-rc3 and above.
[21:46] <k1l_> !linux-image trusty | NymeriaFR
[21:46] <k1l_> !info linux-image trusty | NymeriaFR
[21:47] <k1l_> !info linux-image-generic trusty | NymeriaFR
[21:47] <NymeriaFR> CVE-2015-1593
[21:47] <k1l_> NymeriaFR: so if you dont update, you dont get security updates....
[21:47] <imbezol> Ladon: neat.. didn't know about lndir
[21:48] <ment0s_> Hi, i have a nmcli profile with specified network with bssid. I have two ssids with the same name in roaming . for some reson network manager still connects to the wrong ap . any suggestions why would that happen. ?
[21:48] <NymeriaFR> I am already up to date
[21:48] <NymeriaFR> "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[21:48] <NymeriaFR> "
[21:49] <rhapsody> zerowaitstate, sorry about that standby
[21:50] <rhapsody> zerowaitstate, Architecture: amd64 Version: 1.0.1ubuntu2.6
[21:50] <rhapsody> zerowaitstate,  is that what you meant
[21:50] <k1l_> NymeriaFR: so did you file a bug? did you inform about the patch? what was the answer of the kernel team?
[21:51] <bjensen82> MonkeyDust: what do you mean by mdbtools might be in the backports?
[21:52] <NymeriaFR> I am not an expert, I have just found that and I wonder if it's "normal"
[21:52] <zerowaitstate> rhapsody: okay, i looked at the source code for apt. For http requests, it uses get getaddrinfo() function to resolve DNS names. If it gets several IP addresses back for the same name it will store all of them and rotate through them as errors are encountered while trying to retrieve a file. getaddrinfo() is part of the native network library on linux
[21:52] <k1l_> NymeriaFR: so only track i find for that CVE-2015-1593 is redhat and they didnt even patch that too
[21:52] <zerowaitstate> rhapsody: it is not using a secondary library to do the http. They wrote the http code directly into apt so it would not have that dependency
[21:53] <k1l_> !bug | NymeriaFR
[21:53] <rhapsody> zerowaitstate, ok....
[21:53] <bekks> NymeriaFR: "The number of possible places to allocate the stack due to integer overflow is approximately 268 millions instead of 1 billion. Maybe for this reason this bug has remained hidden for so long. " :)
[21:53] <MonkeyDust> !backports | bjensen82
[21:53] <rhapsody> zerowaitstate, the command mentions some conflicts and listed a few packages that are broken.  but you do not think that this is a major problem
[21:54] <BoyDark> I can't find a guide to install cinelerra on my Ubuntu 64bit
[21:54] <BoyDark> Can you help me please?
[21:54] <jhutchins> BoyDark: aptitude install cinelerra?
[21:54] <bekks> BoyDark: Which Ubuntu do you have?
[21:54] <BoyDark> 14.04
[21:54] <BoyDark> 64bit
[21:54] <bekks> 7JTACBT4Q: !info cinelerra
[21:54] <bekks> sorry.
[21:54] <Mony> dixie___, svetlana .... well i found the problem and i'm mental. the server has multiple ip addresses on the internet interface. all my irc clients were configured to use the second one (not default). my braindead isp blocked my ip for some reason
[21:54] <bekks> !info cinelerra
[21:55] <zerowaitstate> rhapsody: what packages are broken?
[21:55] <svetlana> Mony: contragulations!! :-)
[21:55] <jhutchins> BoyDark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZMo433LhVQ
[21:55] <rhapsody> zerowaitstate, http://pastebin.com/N40u2H4N
[21:56] <Mony> svetlana, thx. the usual stuff.. few hours of debugging for someone elses fault.... lol
[21:56] <Mony> thx for the help tho
[21:56] <svetlana> no problem. I'm glad we stopped looking into sasl.
[21:56] <Mony> :)
[21:57] <glighta> hi guys, does anyone familiar with apt-cache here. I jsut have trouble dl oracle.tar.gz (403)
[21:57] <bjensen82> MonkeyDust: so it wasnt in the backports. How can I figure out which configure flags a package has? without installing it. So I can build from source..
[21:57] <dixie___> Mony: that'll do it too.  glad you found it.
[21:57] <zerowaitstate> rhapsody: those are not actual conflicts on your system. those are potential conflicts with known packages that are out there
[21:57] <Jordan_U> BoyDark: If you're looking for a proffessional quality video editor for Ubuntu, Blender might be a better choice as it's in the default repositories.
[21:57] <MonkeyDust> bjensen82  try apt-cache show [package]
[21:58] <zerowaitstate> rhapsody: you are just viewing the dpkg metadata for apt
[21:58] <rhapsody> zerowaitstate, okay even though it mentions breaks and lists a few things?
[21:58] <zerowaitstate> rhapsody: no
[21:58] <rhapsody> zerowaitstate, ok
[21:58] <zerowaitstate> rhapsody: my system lists the same thing
[21:58] <bjensen82> MonkeyDust: it doesnt show the configure nor compile flags
[21:58] <rhapsody> gotcha
[21:58] <bekks> glighta: can you pastebin the full command and the full output of what you are trying? Provide the pastebin URL please.
[21:58] <zerowaitstate> rhapsody: those are conflict records in the metadata, not detected conflicts
[21:59] <zerowaitstate> rhapsody: that is something apt-get will check for before installing a package
[21:59] <rhapsody> zerowaitstate, ah
[21:59] <glighta> bekks, I can give you a vagrant file if you wish
[21:59] <MonkeyDust> bjensen82  man apt-cache may be useful
[21:59] <bekks> glighta: Thats not helping in solving your issue at all.
[21:59] <glighta> else you won't show much on 1 paste, the apt-cache is set on another node. alright let me try to paste it somewhere
[21:59] <Scrivener> Well I regret many things in my life, and pressing Super + P out of curiosity is one of them.
[22:00] <bekks> glighta: apt-cache is not downloading anything - so what are you actually trying?
[22:00] <zerowaitstate> rhapsody: what does your /etc/apt/apt-file.conf show?
[22:00] <Scrivener> So I used Super + P. It changed my resolution in a multi-display (3 display) setup, and also screwed up just about everything else with the displays.
[22:00] <Scrivener> Rotation, position.
[22:01] <Scrivener> And when I got the position and rotation back, I try to reset the resolution to its proper state and get this error
[22:01] <Scrivener> "GDBus.Error:org.gtk.GDBus.UnmappedGError.Quark._gnome_2drr_2derror_2dquark.Code2: could not set the configuration for CRTC 63"
[22:01] <Scrivener> After selecting the option through the standard Ubuntu displays menu
[22:01] <Scrivener> My 3rd display now draws half of its content onto the main laptop display
[22:01] <Scrivener> How can I undo whatever I just did?
[22:01] <glighta> well I,m storing file on nodeA=apt-cache server; on nodeB and nodeC, it use nodeA as apt-get proxy. (so I don't dl packge twice..)
[22:01] <rhapsody> zerowaitstate, there is no apt-file.conf, do you mean apt.conf?
[22:02] <glighta> in very short
[22:02] <Scrivener> Draws it over and flickers whenever any actions are taking, so my main display is completely unusable right now.
[22:02] <zerowaitstate> rhapsody: look in /etc/apt
[22:02] <bekks> glighta: And HTTP 403 tells you the file isnt there.
[22:02] <rhapsody> zerowaitstate, i did a ls /etc/apt/*.conf and there is not apt-file.conf
[22:02] <glighta> ye well he said the file pattern is forbiden mostly
[22:02] <bekks> glighta: So we need the full commands, full output and all details about what you did there - in a pastebin :)
[22:03] <rhapsody> zerowaitstate, all i have is /etc/apt/apt.conf
[22:03] <bjensen82> MonkeyDust: ok i just read the docs for apt-cache and tried showpkg, showsrc, show neither of which showed me the configure options
[22:03] <glighta> but I didn't saw anywhere where to change that. the regex I saw had tar.gz allowed so it seem all fine
[22:03] <Scrivener> I'm in Ubuntu 14.04 LTS.
[22:03] <MonkeyDust> bjensen82  then i don't know, i'm sure someone else can help better
[22:04] <Scrivener> I've handily screwed up any chances of getting anything done at my desk anymore. Thank you in advance.
[22:04] <bjensen82> ok thanks
[22:05] <Scrivener> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, Thinkpad T430, Intel-only video drivers
[22:05] <dlam> is there a command that'll show me stats of a request to a URL?   like how much time did DNS take, how much time did downloading the HTML take etc etc
[22:06] <zerowaitstate> rhapsody: what does your apt.conf say?
[22:07] <rhapsody> zerowaitstate, Acquire::http::Proxy "http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu/";
[22:07] <glighta> bekks http://pastebin.com/jjGfndcZ
[22:07] <zerowaitstate> rhapsody: there you go
[22:07] <zerowaitstate> rhapsody: remove that line
[22:07] <rhapsody> zerowaitstate, hmm, why would it say that
[22:08] <zerowaitstate> rhapsody: that is an excellent question
[22:08] <userghost> hi
[22:08] <rhapsody> zero, it is actually updating now
[22:08] <rhapsody> zerowaitstate, it is actually updating now
[22:08] <zerowaitstate> rhapsody: yup
[22:08] <rhapsody> zerowaitstate, do you think a program added that line there?
[22:08] <zerowaitstate> rhapsody: that config directive was overriding the normal DNS resolution process inside apt
[22:08] <zerowaitstate> rhapsody: very likely
[22:09] <Jordan_U> dlam: What is your end goal? You could use tcpdump to log packets during a request and determine these things yourself by looking at the dump (possibly with the help of wireshark).
[22:09] <zerowaitstate> rhapsody: I tend to be a suspicious type. When I see stuff like that it worries me
[22:09] <bekks> glighta: Both regexps dont allow that filename. So the message is correct so far.
[22:10] <chalupa_batman>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER chalupa_batman libznbfzpmlu
[22:10] <zerowaitstate> rhapsody: normally, installed debian software that modifies your apt config will put their stuff in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d
[22:10] <MonkeyDust> chalupa_batman  change your password!
[22:10] <rhapsody> zerowaitstate, wow that is unreal.  thank you very much for your help.  thanks to tumbl3r, Bashing-om, MonkeyDust also
[22:10] <bekks> glighta: Could you please pastebin your entire apt-cacher (which is totally different from apt-cache as ou mentioned it earlier) configuration file?
[22:11] <Bashing-om> rhapsody: :) Glad zerowaitstate had the witts to find it ! .. I live and learn .
[22:11] <rhapsody> zerowaitstate, ok that is good to know in general
[22:11] <glighta> this one bekks ? /etc/apt-cacher/apt-cacher.conf
[22:12] <rhapsody> Bashing-om, i agree.  this channel is teaching me lots, I must stick around
[22:12] <bekks> glighta: yeah
[22:12] <glighta> oh you right , I tought there was a direct |tar.gz| without prefix, let me give a little try. actually I had one edit for index_files_regexp
[22:12] <Bashing-om> rhapsody: Do hang about, some great minds glow brightly here .
[22:13] <zerowaitstate> rhapsody: I would strongly recommend doing a dpkg verify of installed files after you are done updating.
[22:13] <rhapsody> zerowaitstate, I will do that
[22:14] <glighta> http://pastebin.com/DtjWLFxj
[22:14] <zerowaitstate> rhapsody: I would also compare your GPG key to the repository to make sure it hasn't been tampered with
[22:16] <FRISI95> ciao
[22:16] <FRISI95> !list
[22:17] <NegativeFlare> !english | FRISI95
[22:19] <rhapsody> zerowaitstate, ok I will have to look up how to do both of those things
[22:19] <Basketball>  "Anyone know if it's possible to make Google Docs open inside Chrome, the default app for .docx files?"
[22:21] <glighta> k guess I'll just do that for this : http://askubuntu.com/questions/551474/java-installation-error-using-apt-cacher
[22:21] <glighta> even if that sucks =(
[22:23] <glighta> ye working =(
[22:34] <JEEBsv> hmm, anyone interested in looking into a drm/intel failure with a first-gen macbook on 14.10?
[22:34] <JEEBsv> http://up-cat.net/p/ab549095
[22:35] <sparr> I'm getting stuck at a grub rescue prompt. I'm trying to follow various online information about fixing the problem. I've found my root partition, and I can see that /boot/grub exists with files in it, and /boot/grub/i386-pc/ has many .mod files. However, there is no "linux.mod", and everyone seems to want me to have that file. Can anyone suggest what might have gone wrong?
[22:35] <JEEBsv> it seems to happen every time I boot, but it only leads to non-bootableness about half the time
[22:35] <jk> when i try to add my ppa i get the following error: Error: signing key fingerprint does not exist
[22:36] <Jordan_U> JEEBsv: Have you filed a bug report as the error message suggest you should do?
[22:36] <JEEBsv> Jordan_U: it's against a kernel that is only supported by canonical at this point so I wasn't sure
[22:36] <JEEBsv> 3.16 is not a long-term supported kernel
[22:36] <JEEBsv> so I wasn't sure
[22:36] <k1l_> NymeriaFR: just for your interest: the founder of this issue asked for a cve just today, some hours ago. so there cant be a update if its not known.
[22:37] <JEEBsv> of course it gets even better if you try to boot with 3.19
[22:37] <JEEBsv> because that never succeeds
[22:37] <JEEBsv> :V
[22:37] <JEEBsv> 3.18 is similar to 3.16
[22:38] <JEEBsv> the mainline kernel builds available at 'buntu at least make testing kind of simple
[22:38] <jk> when i try to add my ppa i get the following error: Error: signing key fingerprint does not exist
[22:40] <ziikutv> Hello
[22:41] <Jordan_U> sparr: You can run "set" to view the currently set environment variables. What is the value of $prefix and $root?
[22:41] <ziikutv> I have a dual-booted windows with ubuntu
[22:41] <Bashing-om> sparr: Mine: ls -al /boot/grub/i386-pc/linux* >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 13076 Oct 14 16:18 /boot/grub/i386-pc/linux.mod . Have you tried (RE-)installing grub from the liveDVD ( CHRoot ?) .
[22:41] <ziikutv> Unfortunately its not even starting, and I would appreciate if someone can help me remove it?
[22:42] <dixie__> ziikutv: what are you trying to remove?
[22:42] <ziikutv> The ubuntu
[22:42] <sparr> Bashing-om: I can see now that I have /boot/grub/i386-pc/linux.mod so my problem is how to get insmod to see it at the grub rescue prompt
[22:42] <ziikutv> Its on the same harddrive too. And I am pretty sure, simply removing the patition is not okay.
[22:42] <Jordan_U> ziikutv: What happens when you try to boot Ubuntu? What happens when you try to boot Windows?
[22:42] <sparr> Jordan_U: prefix=(boot-root)/boot/grub and root=boot-root
[22:43] <ziikutv> When I select windows, it goes to another "os selection screen" windows 7 or windows 8 (its left behind from the time I had windows 8)
[22:43] <ziikutv> when I select windows 7, I am able to get in.. when I seelct ubuntu, black screen sometimes it starts and sometimes nothing.
[22:43] <Jordan_U> sparr: "insmod linux" (which will probably result in an error message about missing symbols, or you wouldn't be at a grub rescue shell in the first place).
[22:43] <sparr> Jordan_U: when I do "ls (boot-root)/boot/grub/i386-pc/" i can see linux.mod. when I do "insmod linux" i get "error: file not found"
[22:44] <sparr> Jordan_U: ok, changed my prefix to (boot-root)/boot/grub/i386-pc/ and now when I do "insmod linux" I get a symbol not found error
[22:44] <sparr> error: symbol not found: `grub_realidt'.
[22:45] <Jordan_U> sparr: You have a *really* old verson of grub installed in your mbr/embedded area, and a current version in /boot/grub/.
[22:45] <sparr> it has likely been more than a year since this machine was rebooted
[22:46] <Jordan_U> sparr: You can boot from a LiveCD and re-install grub to fix this, and if you have more than one hard drive it's likely that just changing the boot order in your BIOS will allow you to boot (because you have a proper grub installation on the MBR of your other drive).
[22:46] <dixie__> ziikutv: the easiest way to get rid of an ubuntu installation is to just get rid of it's partition, but I'd be willing to bet that there was probably an issue when you installed ubuntu and for one of 1000 reasons it won't boot.  If you want to keep the ubuntu installation, you can just reinstall formatting the existing ubuntu partition and it should work.  The other option would be to boot a live cd and run grub-install to fix the
[22:46] <dixie__> bootloader.  good luck.
[22:46] <sparr> Jordan_U: I cannot immediately boot from other media.
[22:47] <JEEBsv> Jordan_U: do you know how well those freedesktop folks take reports on kernels that are only supported by canonical?
[22:47] <JEEBsv> for DRM/Intel
[22:47] <Jordan_U> ziikutv: Removing Ubunut will not help your problem with not being able to boot Windows, as evidenced by the fact that grub is properly loading Windows' bootloader and at that point if anything fails its due to a problem with your Windows installation.
[22:48] <JEEBsv> of course, I guess mentioning that it also fails with 3.18 would help with that :V
[22:49] <Jordan_U> dixie__: You can *not* just remove Ubuntu's partition to uninstall Ubuntu, that will leave you with a broken grub installation meaning you won't be able to boot into Windows either. Please be more careful about giving advice in the future.
[22:49] <JEEBsv> ugh, freedesktop bug tracker needs a registration :|
[22:50] <Jordan_U> JEEBsv: I expect that they would appreciate the bug report, especially since as you already said you're testing newer mainline kernels as well.
[22:50] <Jordan_U> ziikutv: Removing Ubunut will not help your problem with not being able to boot Windows, as evidenced by the fact that grub is properly loading Windows' bootloader and at that point if anything fails its due to a problem with your Windows installation.
[22:50] <ziikutv> uh
[22:51] <Jordan_U> ziikutv: You should *not* just remove Ubuntu's partition either way, as that will just make the situation worse. If you'd like me to walk you through properly uninstalling Ubuntu I will, but again it won't get you any closer to booting Windows.
[22:52] <winterchillz> hey guys
[22:52] <JEEBsv> Jordan_U: yeah - I guess I'll bite the bullet after I grab some sleep. I guess I'm always hoping to catch some 'buntu kernel/i915 person or someone with a 1st gen intel macbook to either be able to do some live debugging, or at least learn if it's just my laptop or not
[22:52] <JEEBsv> I only have one of these on hand, after all :D
[22:53] <winterchillz> can anyone recommend a good package of irc server and services for ubuntu server? I've been struggling with ircd-hybrid 8 for a while now and I just can't get the services to connect to it
[22:53] <ziikutv1> Jordan_U: Hello, i got disconnected.
[22:53] <winterchillz> currently trying out Anope but the compile process is taking a while so I decided to hop on and quickly ask around
[22:53] <ziikutv1> Well no I think the problem is with my ubuntu install
[22:53] <ziikutv1> my windows is fine from before.
[22:54] <ziikutv1> I am still able to get in and use windows but when I select ubuntu from the grub menu it either doesnt do anything or it logs me in automatically (i checked automatically signin option if that makes a difference)
[22:54] <Jordan_U> ziikutv1: I don't understand. Can you successfully boot Windows currently or not?
[22:55] <ziikutv1> yes
[22:55] <ziikutv1> but not ubuntu
[22:55] <ziikutv1> So I want it off from my harddrive
[22:55] <Bam_> yus
[22:55] <dixie__> ziikutv1: the bootloader loads the kernel into memory and starts the init process.  if ubuntu won't start, your problem is more than likely in your bootloader.  re-installing grub would fix this.
[22:56] <Jordan_U> ziikutv1: Ahh, OK. I misunderstood your situation then. Is this a BIOS or UEFI based system?
[22:56] <ziikutv1> UEFI
[22:56] <EriC^^> ziikutv1: you can have both if you want..
[22:56] <dixie__> Jordan_U: good question!
[22:56] <ziikutv1> No I cannot
[22:56] <EriC^^> ziikutv1: yes you can
[22:56] <Jordan_U> dixie__: I highly doubt that this is a grub problem, as the grub menu is being shown without problem.
[22:56] <ziikutv1> unfortunately I do not think I am clear, the ubuntu does not login or start all ALL!
[22:56] <EriC^^> ziikutv1: why do you say that?
[22:56] <ziikutv1> at all*!
[22:56] <EriC^^> ziikutv1: do you get a grub menu?
[22:57] <Jordan_U> ziikutv1: OK. Can you boot from an Ubuntu LiveCD/USB?
[22:57] <EriC^^> ziikutv1: do you get a purple screen to select windows or ubuntu?
[22:57] <ziikutv1> EriC^^: Yes from the grub menu if i pick ubuntu, nothing happens (or sometimes it logs me in to ubuntu but most of the time black screen, nothign!)
[22:57] <EriC^^> ziikutv1: ok well that's unrelated to windows completely
[22:58] <ziikutv1> Exactly.
[22:58] <EriC^^> i mean removing windows wont help
[22:58] <ziikutv1> Its my ubuntu, i managed to F it up.
[22:58] <winterchillz> maybe the boot loader is failing to communicate with the kernel and initramfs
[22:58] <EriC^^> ziikutv1: did you try running an older kernel?
[22:58] <winterchillz> EriC^^, I believe he wants to rm Ubuntu instead
[22:58] <Jordan_U> ziikutv1: If so, please do so and then run "sudo efibootmgr" and post the output it gives to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com then post a link to the output here. We will use efibootmgr to make Windows' bootloader default again, after which we can safely remove Ubuntu.
[22:58] <ziikutv1> yes I want to simply remove ubuntu partition and get rid of grub
[22:58] <dixie__> Jordan_U: if the grub.cfg isn't correct, ubuntu won't load.  I run into this mostly when building os images. grub won't find what it needs, and best case senario you get dropped to a grub prompt.  worst case, you get a funny error about inability initramfs.
[22:58] <EriC^^> ziikutv1: did you try booting with nomodeset ?
[22:58] <EriC^^> winterchillz: oh ok
[22:59] <ziikutv1> EriC^^: No, I recall several months ago that UEFI had to do smth like that.
[22:59] <ziikutv1> Jordan_U: Okay
[22:59] <EriC^^> ziikutv1: it could be a bad kernel, or bad graphics driver
[22:59] <ziikutv1> most likely graphics
[22:59] <ziikutv1> i was playing with that at the time
[22:59] <EriC^^> ziikutv1: try an older kernel, go to advanced in grub, and choose an older one
[23:00] <ziikutv1> I will try that later
[23:00] <ziikutv1> right now i just want to get rid of this
[23:00] <ziikutv1> Jordan_U: I will go offline and comeback
[23:00] <EriC^^> ziikutv1: ok, try to boot with nomodeset then or boot normally press ctrl+alt+f1 , and install the proper drivers
[23:00] <ziikutv1> Nah, just going to remove the ubuntu for now as I do not need it.
[23:00] <ziikutv1> thanks tho! :)
[23:01] <EriC^^> ok np
[23:01] <dixie__> good luck
[23:01] <winterchillz> so, guys, any suggestions for irc server with services for ubuntu? As I said, I've been playing around with ircd-hybrid and different services packages for hours now
[23:02] <winterchillz> but I can't get the services like NickServ and ChanServ to connect to the network
[23:02] <winterchillz> currently trying out Anope but the compile takes a while so I thought it might be a good idea to ask around
[23:03] <dixie__> winterchillz: there used to be a package in ubuntu's repositories called hybserv that provides services for ircd-hybrid, I think it's depreciated in favor of anope services. Last time I checked, there was no package for it, but it installs from source pretty well.
[23:04] <winterchillz> yep, tried hybserv with download from github but it's failing to compile
[23:04] <dixie__> winterchillz: seems like you're on the right track
[23:04] <winterchillz> so that's why I'm currently trying out Anope
[23:04] <dixie__> what's failing?
[23:04] <back-ziikutv> Jordan_U: I am in "Try Ubuntu"
[23:04] <genii> winterchillz: There's also inspircd
[23:04] <dixie__> yeah, just compile anope services.
[23:04] <back-ziikutv> sudo: efibootmgr: command not found
[23:05] <winterchillz> eh, something with the conf file, for some reason it doesn't pick the 'define' function
[23:05] <winterchillz> anope is going good so far
[23:05] <winterchillz> genii, thanks for the advice, noted
[23:05] <Jordan_U> back-ziikutv: sudo apt-get install efibootmgr
[23:06] <back-ziikutv> Jordan_U: http://privatepaste.com/7025d8dd3f
[23:07] <dlam> @Jordan_U:  thanks for the tcpdump tip!  (an hour ago)   ...just wanna see why/how   http://foobar.com/important-script.js is taking so long
[23:08] <back-ziikutv> Jordan_U: That paste contains the response
[23:09] <back-ziikutv> Jordan_U: If you prefer pastebin, http://pastebin.com/77AMfu0J
[23:10] <back-ziikutv> can anyone else assist?
[23:10] <back-ziikutv> seems like jordan is gone
[23:10] <winterchillz> hmm, wondering why does it say 'BootCurrent: 0007'
[23:10] <winterchillz> does it mean it's booting the USB drive?
[23:11] <back-ziikutv> winterchillz: well i was told to use the "Live CD" which I have on my USB
[23:11] <Jordan_U> back-ziikutv: Interesting. This is not what I would normally expect.
[23:11] <back-ziikutv> Jordan_U: Why not?
[23:12] <back-ziikutv> This is just boot order why does this affect the ubuntu partion or grub or any other bootstrapper
[23:12] <Jordan_U> back-ziikutv: You don't have any UEFI entries for Ubuntu *or* Windows, only a generic entry to boot from the hard drive.
[23:12] <back-ziikutv> i see, tbh I have had many trouble with this UEFI shit
[23:13] <back-ziikutv> I dont know WHY the MOBO manufacts made such a shit, i mean yey I have a mouseis bois.. but shit!
[23:13] <back-ziikutv> (excuse language)
[23:14] <winterchillz> off-topic, I've clashed with UEFI only once so far, using old rig here, had to help a friend and that UEFI crap totally wasted my time
[23:14] <winterchillz> hate it ever since
[23:14] <dixie__> uefi is both awesome and awful all at the same time for me
[23:14]  * TJ- prefers UEFI 
[23:15] <Jordan_U> back-ziikutv: Did you at any point use boot repair or any other tools to try to get the grub menu to show up in the first place?
[23:15] <TJ-> BIOS and UEFI implementations both, can contain bugs though, and right now we're experiencing with UEFI the same issues we did with PC-BIOS in the late '90s and early 00's
[23:15] <back-ziikutv> Jordan_U: Nope
[23:15] <back-ziikutv> Followed the steps of some guide exactly to tee
[23:15] <back-ziikutv> i think
[23:16] <Basketball> how do I use update-alternatives to open a file in google docs
[23:16] <TJ-> back-ziikutv: If you're using the Live Ubuntu, have you used gparted or some other tool to check the partition layout on the disk(s) ?
[23:16] <dixie__> Basketball: good question!  although I have no idea how to do it.
[23:17] <Jordan_U> back-ziikutv: Please post a link to the guide you followed. From what I'm seeing, you must have copied shim.efi to BOOTX64.efi, which Ubuntu does not do automatically, to get grub to load without an explicit UEFI boot entry.
[23:17] <sheena1> i'm trying to use a liveusb to get an ibm thinkpad to run and it claims "missing operating system" when i boot it from the usb. i've never had this issue before.
[23:17] <Jordan_U> sheena1: How did you prepare the LiveUSB?
[23:17] <back-ziikutv> Ill try to find it
[23:18] <sheena1> Jordan_U: with the usb creator.. it's not recent. but it works great in my gateway, and i've used it on a couple friends' laptops.. this laptop is quite old and im wondering if thats the issue, but i have no idea how to tell?
[23:18] <TJ-> sheena1: Are you 100% sure the PC is actually trying to boot from the USB? If so, have you checked the USB is bootable/readable on another PC?
[23:18] <sheena1> TJ-: I'm as sure as i can be. it displays the brand name of the usb stick inthe boot menu. and yes, i did check, it works great on mygateway
[23:19] <TJ-> sheena1: You may need to enter the PC's BIOS settings, find the boot order options, and ensure that the USB device is set to be tried as a boot device
[23:19] <back-ziikutv> Jordan_U: Cant I just remove the parittion and fix MBR from windows disk
[23:19] <sheena1> TJ-: already done that. have set it and made sure it's enabled
[23:19] <Jordan_U> sheena1: What version of Ubuntu did you put on the USB? What version of Ubuntu did you run startup disk creator from?
[23:19] <winterchillz> TJ-, sheena1, I had someone having issues with booting from USB due to non-UEFI creation in the past. Maybe you misclicked and selected UEFI boot system?
[23:20] <sheena1> im pretty sure its trusty, from trusty. would that affect whether it would work in some computers but not others?
[23:20] <back-ziikutv> Jordan_U: Dont think I remember what key words i used :(
[23:20] <Jordan_U> back-ziikutv: No, that would be what you would do for a BIOS based installation, and if you had just used Ubuntu's installer and done nothing else then just removing Ubuntu would be fine. But it looks like you've done more than what Ubuntu's installer does, which is why I'd like to see the guide you followed.
[23:20] <TJ-> sheena1: OK ... there are some weird PC BIOSes that have buggy boot-strap code that reports the wrong boot device number to the boot loader; but usually that'll pass by the "Missing OS" stage. It sound to me like a BIOS that looks for at least one MBR partition being marked as Active/bootable
[23:21] <buddd> preference for white or black terminal background?
[23:22] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | back-ziikutv
[23:22] <winterchillz> buddd, black text on white background personally
[23:23] <sheena1> TJ-: if so, how can I make that work?.. or can i?
[23:23] <TJ-> sheena1: In another PC, use "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdX" to check that one of the partitions on the USB is marked as bootable/active (usually by means of an "*").
[23:23] <Jordan_U> sparr: Try running "exit".
[23:24] <TJ-> sheena1: If not, use 'fdisk' to mark one, and try again on the Thinkpad.
[23:24] <sheena1> TJ-: stand by :)
[23:25] <back-ziikutv> Jordan_U: I remember vaugle that I had to make two parittions, one that was twice the size of my ram in GB for "swap" and one for installing ubuntu which i did
[23:26] <back-ziikutv> Jordan_U: Here are the results of the BootScript http://pastebin.com/nFLd8vFE
[23:27] <buddd> is there a way to update vagrant fro the command line
[23:28] <sheena1> TJ-: fdisk gives me a notice that "this doesn't look like a partition table"
[23:28] <TJ-> sheena1: Urghh!
[23:28] <sheena1> nothing says bootable, active or has an asterisk
[23:28] <back-ziikutv> buddd: Join #Vagrant for that.
[23:28] <sheena1> ... but this usb boot from other computers. is that expected?
[23:29] <TJ-> sheena1: what was the command line you used?
[23:29] <sheena1> home@home:~$ sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb1
[23:29] <TJ-> sheena1: Lose the "1"
[23:29] <sheena1> Disk /dev/sdb1: 16.0 GB ... thats the right size etc
[23:29] <sheena1> ah
[23:29] <sheena1> yes, asterisk under Boot
[23:30] <TJ-> sheena1: partition table lives on the device, not in partition #1 :)
[23:30] <sheena1> got it :)
[23:30] <sheena1> /dev/sdb1   *          32    31266815    15633392    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[23:30] <sheena1> thats the asterisk you wanted, riht?
[23:30] <TJ-> sheena1: OK, so that test rules out my 2nd hypothesis
[23:31] <sheena1> ok
[23:31] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | sheena1
[23:32] <TJ-> Jordan_U: I doubt that's going to help in this case; the USB not booting is the issue, on 1 PC
[23:35] <Jordan_U> TJ-: I'm honestly pretty baffled as to what could be happening, and I don't know what to be looking for at the moment. Somethimes when I have no idea what to look for, looking at the boot info script still allows me to find something odd that leads to a solution.
[23:35] <back-ziikutv> Jordan_U: I think I am just going to do a full wipe and install windows 8.1
[23:36] <TJ-> Jordan_U: yeah I know :) but my point is as the Thinkpad fails at the BIOS stage, there is no opportunity to run bootinfo
[23:37] <Jordan_U> back-ziikutv: Wait, it actually all makes sense now. You have a UEFI based system, but your have both Ubuntu and Windows installed for BIOS.
[23:37] <felice> lol
[23:38] <dixie__> well there's your problem right there
[23:38] <sheena1> Syslinux looks at sector 1454688 of /dev/sdb1 for  second stage. SYSLINUX is installed in the  The integrity check of the ADV area failed. to the info in the boot sector, sdb1 starts at 0. But according to the info from fdisk, sdb1 at sector 32.
[23:38] <Jordan_U> back-ziikutv: sudo software-properties-gtk -e universe && sudo apt-get install mbr && sudo install-mbr /dev/sda
[23:38] <sheena1> TJ-:  I can pastebin the whole thing, but that might be the relevant bit?
[23:39] <Jordan_U> back-ziikutv: Running that command will install an MS style MBR, and when you reboot you should therefore be taken directly to Windows. After that you can safely remove your Ubuntu partitions.
[23:39] <sheena1> oh Jordan_U not TJ-
[23:39] <sheena1> sorry
[23:39] <Jordan_U> sheena1: Please pastebin the whole thing.
[23:40] <sheena1> http://pastebin.com/QXJ0EcAW Jordan_U
[23:41] <back-ziikutv> Okay lets try that
[23:42] <back-ziikutv> Jordan_U: Universe repo does not work for me
[23:42] <Jordan_U> back-ziikutv: Please pastebin the output of the command I gave.
[23:43] <back-ziikutv> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/RCmyL0p8
[23:43] <sheena1> TJ-: Jordan_U any ideas?
[23:44] <Jordan_U> sheena1: sudo add-apt-repository multiverse && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install mbr && sudo install-mbr /dev/sda
[23:44] <back-ziikutv> Jordan_U: I think the first command is deprecated
[23:45] <back-ziikutv> Yup fixed it already :)
[23:45] <Jordan_U> sheena1: Ignore that last comment please :)
[23:45] <back-ziikutv> Its updating now.
[23:45] <sheena1> Jordan_U:  installing the mbr is not useful?
[23:45] <wilornel_> Hey guys! Why does ubuntu not let me update cmake to 2.8.9 ?
[23:45] <Jordan_U> sheena1: That message was intended for back-ziikutv.
[23:45] <wilornel_> Hey guys! Why does ubuntu not let me update cmake to 2.8.9 ?
[23:46] <back-ziikutv> Jordan_U: The second command errors out, soemthing about process. the third worked by itself
[23:46] <Bashing-om> !info cmake | wilornel_
[23:46] <wilornel_> I've read that I need to update ubuntu to 12.10.. but why is that?
[23:46] <sheena1> Jordan_U: got it.
[23:46] <k1l_> wilornel_: what ubuntu are you on?
[23:46] <k1l_> wilornel_: "lsb_release -d"
[23:46] <wilornel_> 12.04
[23:47] <Jordan_U> wilornel_: Do *not* upgrade to Ubuntu 12.10, 12.10 is EOL.
[23:47] <back-ziikutv> Jordan_U: Paste of the new error http://pastebin.com/2zzcVGML
[23:47] <wilornel_> 12.04.4 LTS
[23:47] <k1l_> wilornel_: the only upgrade you *could* do is to 14.04.
[23:47] <wilornel_> I'm not planning to either
[23:47] <k1l_> wilornel_: but why do you need cmake 2.8.9?
[23:48] <back-ziikutv> Jordan_U: Nevermind, fixed it.
[23:48] <wilornel_> Well, why can't I just update the cmake command?
[23:48] <k1l_> wilornel_: there are depencies and that will cause problems?
[23:48] <back-ziikutv> Jordan_U: Should I reboot now?
[23:48] <wilornel_> When I try to compile the glfw library, I receive an error telling me "Cmake 2.8.9 or higher is required"
[23:48] <wilornel_> k1l_: I see
[23:48] <Jordan_U> back-ziikutv: If install-mbr ran without error, then yes.
[23:49] <k1l_> wilornel_: well, see if a PPA solved that issue already
[23:49] <wilornel_> So I guess the only solution is to upgrade to 14.04
[23:49] <wilornel_> alright, let's see
[23:49] <k1l_> wilornel_: like this: https://launchpad.net/~kalakris/+archive/ubuntu/cmake
[23:49] <wilornel_> Er, what should I be looking for exactly on PPA?
[23:50] <wilornel_> Oh, nice
[23:51] <k1l_> or see here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=cmake
[23:51] <Jordan_U> sheena1: It might be worth trying grub instead of syslinux, though I don't know why that *should* make a difference.
[23:51] <k1l_> but its yours and the PPA maintainers responsibility then to have a watch on bugs and security
[23:51] <jonz> so anyonne know anything about problems with th authenication service?
[23:52] <wilornel_> How did you find Mrinal's cmake 2.8.11 so quickly?
[23:52] <wilornel_> k1l_: I understand
[23:52] <sheena1> Jordan_U: i have no idea how to even approach/try that.. any info?
[23:52] <Jordan_U> sheena1: Please pastebin the output of "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/ && find /mnt/".
[23:52] <wilornel_> Is there a sort of reputation system so I could know which repositories have less bugs or security issues?
[23:53] <jonz> I updated from 14.04 to 14.10 and now the shutdown and restart buttons dont work, I cant access my windows partitions in a file browser and software center cant install or remove anything
[23:53] <jonz> I've been googling and trying a lot of things
[23:53] <sheena1> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/mqwAYzbi
[23:54] <buddd> no one'sanswering questions in the vagrant channel, so trying my luck here: http://pastebin.com/0B1qEaiY
[23:55] <EriC^^> jonz: open a terminal and type sudo apt-get -f install
[23:55] <EriC^^> jonz: and sudo parted -l
[23:55] <EriC^^> paste here
[23:55] <EriC^^> i mean paste in paste.ubuntu.com
[23:56] <Jordan_U> sheena1: :( It's a 32 bit Ubuntu liveUSB, which means that it doesn't include a /boot/grub/grub.cfg already.
[23:56] <Jordan_U> sheena1: Is the computer you're installing to 32 bit only?
[23:56] <sheena1> i cant imagine its not a 32 bit computer?? its from 2003 or something
[23:56] <TJ-> sheena1: Back to basics... If the Thinkpad reports "Missing OS" but we know its there and does boot on other PCs, then the issue is definitely with the boot mechanism of the Thinkpad.
[23:56] <jonz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10212182/
[23:57] <sheena1> TJ- and Jordan_U.. real life calls and I must leave the keyboard for a bit. I will return !
[23:57] <TJ-> sheena1: Can you/have you tried to boot it from a CD/DVD?
[23:57] <TJ-> sheena1: Also, have you tried other USB ports on the Thinkpad?
[23:58] <TJ-> sheena1: On old hardware some ports might only be active on a USB v1.1 controller, rather than the USB2.0 controller
[23:58] <jonz> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10212182/
[23:58] <sheena1> cannot dvd, did try other usbs.
[23:58] <EriC^^> jonz: type udisksctl mount -b /dev/sda2
[23:59] <TJ-> sheena1: Have you tried a *smaller* capacity flash device? Is the USB device a complete storage device, or an adapter with an SD card in?