[00:06] <dougl> I did an update on my 14.04 and all my fonts went microscopic rendering the mahcine almost useless any suggestions?
[00:10] <valorie> dougl: did you check the font settings?
[00:10] <valorie> perhaps something has changed, and you can change it back
[00:10] <dougl> can you do that from ssh?
[00:14] <valorie> hmmm, not sure
[00:14] <dougl> Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.13.0-45-generic (x86_64)
[00:14] <dougl> Consult /var/lib/dkms/nvidia-331/331.113/build/make.log for more information.
[00:14] <valorie> I don't know how though
[00:14] <valorie> ah, so it is a driver problem
[00:14] <valorie> not fonts
[00:14] <dougl> I have fried this fish before...
[00:15] <dougl> jockeytext?
[00:16] <TWillJam> hey i am having troubble getting the kde 5 preview to bootup
[00:18] <computerquip> I'm looking for software to manage my fstab. Is there any KDE related software for this?
[00:18] <TWillJam> hey i am having troubble getting the kde 5 preview to bootup
[00:19] <dougl> computerquip, nano?
[00:19] <computerquip> dougl, no really.
[00:20] <dougl> computerquip, how big is your fstab?
[00:21] <computerquip> Currently not large.. but I'd like to have more control over how some of my hard drives are mounted rather than just have them automounted.
[00:26] <computerquip> Preferably in a manner that doesn't have me copy and paste values from blkid or df. I'd also not like to figure out by man page what each option does since I don't have muscle memory for it.
[00:33] <computerquip> I think the "Disks" utility works for my purpose. Never mind then.
[00:37] <dougl> LOL
[00:38] <dougl> yeah drivers...
[00:51] <bvogel> Hello all, this is my first try at an IRC client
[00:51] <valorie> yay, more IRC users!
[00:51] <valorie> hi bvogel
[00:51]  * valorie is just leaving for pizza and beer
[00:52] <bvogel> ok correction i have played with Mirc on a windows machine.. but i am starting to play with linux and have installed linux lite in a dual boot to try it out.. so far i'm liking the speed of linux over windows
[00:55] <computerquip> That was very painful... apparently, if your drive fails to mount and you choose to drop into a root shell, you're next boot up will give you a black screen that responds to nothing but CTRL+ALT+DEL (which is kill everything and reboot).
[00:56] <computerquip> However, switching between a backup kernel seems to to prevent this from happening... I don't even know...
[03:59] <Guest73492> whats up guys
[08:02] <ash__> any devs here?
[08:05] <retro_laptop> ash__, Does a software security engineer count?
[08:59] <knro_> Are there any GUI tools to manage fstab ?
[11:44] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[16:43] <guillaume__> hello
[16:57] <dougl> morning
[17:02] <dougl> BluesKaj, you around I updated my 14.04 and some how borked my nvidia drivers so my fonts are microscopic and the machine is practically useless with kde running but I have shell access to install new drivers (which I did from memory in gui that did not help) - good morning :LOL
[17:02] <dougl> nvidia gt640
[17:08] <BluesKaj> dougl, afaik the nvidia-340 driver is the one you need, so,  sudo apt-get install nvidia-340, in the shell
[17:11] <dougl> BluesKaj, thanks, you get any of that snow?
[17:11] <BluesKaj> yeah, a little , 3"  maybe
[17:12] <BluesKaj> going out to push it in a few mins
[17:13] <dougl> slow and steady - thanks again.
[17:14] <BluesKaj> did the driver install ok?
[17:15] <dougl> no I only had options for 331... was gonna google, just wanted to touch base with you and see if anything changed I am guessing dpkg -i nvidia-foo is an option too
[17:17] <dougl> nvidia-331
[17:18] <BluesKaj> I looked at the nvidia site driver recommendation for your card and the 340 was the minimum driver, but maybe the 331 will work
[17:19] <dougl> Thanks BluesKaj
[17:20] <BluesKaj> np dougl , the 331 seems to be the nvidia workhorse driver for most nvidia gpus atm
[17:34] <dougl> BluesKaj, all under control now... I just cant get comfortable with the point and click - anything I try gui leaves me disappointed cuz I mess it up... just FYI all installing well now
[17:34] <BluesKaj> good
[17:36] <BluesKaj> well, I'm an old windows guy due to on the job requirements many yrs ago, so when i discovered linux I naturally migrated to KDE which is my fav gui/desktop
[18:07] <computerquip> For packages that do not have an explicit i386 derivative package, do I need to rebuild the package myself for 32-bit counterparts?
[18:09] <computerquip> oh: http://superuser.com/questions/741380/how-to-install-i386-package-under-amd64-ubuntu-debian
[18:09] <computerquip> However, this now confuses me as to why there are explicit i386 packages...
[18:10] <computerquip> Is it discouraged to use the method in that superuser post?
[18:17] <Walex> computerquip: I don't understand your confusion...
[18:19] <computerquip> Walex, why are their explicit i386 packages when they aren't always used.
[18:20] <Walex> computerquip: some people have 32-bit only computers, or they prefer 32-bit installations as they have 1-4 GB of memory or less
[18:20] <computerquip> I'm not asking the purpose of 32 bit packages... I'm asking a question about why they're package the way they are and what the appropriate way to achieve multiarch libraries would be.
[18:21] <Walex> computerquip: you question does not make sense to me, sorry. But...
[18:22] <Walex> computerquip: I suspect that you are not aware of the difference in a '.deb' repository between the 'pool' of packages and the list of packages.
[18:22] <Walex> computerquip: or perhaps you need to think of the difference between 'dpkg' and 'apt-get'
[18:23] <Walex> computerquip: there is no such thing as "multiarch libraries", or multiarch packages, but there are multiarch *repositories*.
[18:29] <computerquip> I think I see the confusion where I refer to multi arch library as a library that's available on the system for multiple architectures... I wasn't aware that Debian/ubuntu literally called it the multiarch repository, where as most others call it multilib.
[18:30] <computerquip> Or no...
[18:30] <computerquip> Yeah, think that's it.
[18:32] <computerquip> Anyways, my question is why are some packages explicity labeled with i386 (e.g. libnss-mdns-i386) where as others are not.
[18:42] <BluesKaj> computerquip, probly because  a 64bit version of said apps haven't been developed
[19:10] <computerquip> BluesKaj, but there's libnss-mdns which appears to be a x86_64 package.
[19:12] <BluesKaj> ok that's a common name for 64bit
[19:13] <computerquip> I know this, you gave the reasoning that perhaps there is no 64-bit package available though.
[21:02] <computerquip> If I use Xorg Edgers PPA, should the driver manager see later versions that aren't included in official repo?
[21:02] <computerquip> I see it sees nvidia 340 but not 346
[21:03] <BluesKaj> computerquip, which nvidia gpu ?
[21:03] <computerquip> GTX 770
[21:05] <Walex> computerquip: rereading what you write above I think that you misunderstand how '.deb' packages and ELF executables work. Perhaps you are familiar with Mac OSX or other systems that work in completely different ways.
[21:05] <BluesKaj> computerquip, which drivers does the package manager have if you search nvidia?
[21:05] <computerquip> Walex, I've programmed on Linux for several years.
[21:05] <Walex> computerquip: then you should be asking that kind of qwuestion...
[21:06] <computerquip> Because I'm not familiar with how ubuntu/debian packages things.
[21:06] <computerquip> But you're putting into question my knowledge of things that aren't even related to such things.
[21:07] <BluesKaj> xorg xedgers should list their available drivers on the ppa website
[21:07] <computerquip> http://codepad.org/ISe6UiqS
[21:07] <soee> computerquip: no drivers manager wont see them
[21:07] <computerquip> As you can see, a basic search sees all available drivers appropriately. But the driver manager only shows 340.
[21:07] <computerquip> Ah, okay.
[21:17] <floown> Hello
[21:17] <floown> In my dedicate server installed with the last LTS and Vesta Control Panel, I have this error : 504 Gateway Time-out
[21:17] <floown> nginx
[21:18] <floown> What can I do, please?
[21:31] <Walex> floown: a google search? https://www.google.be/search?as_epq=504+Gateway+Time-out
[21:32] <floown> Walex: I have already research a solution