[14:35] <JohnRL> is something up with lp?  for the last day or so, at any bzr branch attempt, I just get: "bzr brancConnection to 91.189.95.84 timed out while waiting to read"
[14:36] <JohnRL> oops. just "Connection to 91.189.95.84 timed out while waiting to read", I meant.
[22:46] <teward> is there a way to add gcc-4.7 to a ppa for the precise series so it can pull in that instead of the standard gcc in Precise?  I've got an odd case of software that needs C++11 support for building and that's not available for Precise without extra software...
[23:03] <cjwatson> teward: no different from any other package, aside from being complicated :)  a PPA implicitly takes build-dependencies from itself in preference to the primary archive, and you can add additional PPAs to satisfy build-dependencies if you wish (on Archive:+edit-dependencies)
[23:03] <cjwatson> teward: there's an "Other versions ..." expander on the bottom of https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-4.7 which may be helpful
[23:30] <teward> cjwatson: the tricky part, I believe: setting g++-4.7 to be the alternative to use for g++ for the build environment for Precise - there's already a PPA with gcc-4.7 in it, we could pull that in, but the question is still how to *force* the dependency there to be used (in my Precise server, I did an update-alternatives revision temporarily for the build)
[23:33] <wgrant> teward: Ask the build process of your C++11 package to use g++-4.7 rather than g++.
[23:33] <wgrant> That's probably more sensible than uploading a new gcc-defaults just for a single package...
[23:35] <teward> wgrant: mmm, true, that would work, although a lot larger of a deviation than I hoped for.  Not a huge problem though.  (I already build-dep on two other PPAs I have, for Trusty, anyways)
[23:35] <wgrant> teward: Shouldn't that be a single line in debian/rules?
[23:35] <cjwatson> Should be trivial, indeed.
[23:35] <teward> wgrant: not 100% familiar with the debian/rules - effectively backporting `znc` from Debian -> old releases
[23:36] <teward> not sure how the package does it already, but could define that change.  still have to add g++-4.7 to the build-depends though, but that's not too hard
[23:36] <cjwatson> This is worth putting some effort into learning.
[23:36] <teward> cjwatson: indeed.
[23:36] <teward> but it being Valentine's day, and me heading out to dinner in 30  minutes with the girlfriend, kinda was asking as a curiosityu
[23:36] <teward> will look into the actual making it work part tomorrow :)