/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/02/14/#ubuntu-ops.txt

=== bazhang_ is now known as bazhang
daftykinsIs this guy a known troublemaker?  -!- snapsdat [~snapsdat@172.56.3.136]03:41
OerHeksHi all03:41
bazhanghi03:41
daftykinsme and OerHeks just got some lovely PM abuse from this one03:41
bazhangwill investigate, thanks!03:42
OerHeksdaftykins and me got naste PM's03:42
bazhangthey seemed to have quit03:43
daftykinsright, so is it a recorded IP?03:44
bazhangin my internal db, yes03:45
bazhangbolo snapsdat03:46
daftykinshmm bolo rings a bell from yesterday perhaps04:03
daftykinsah well, will continue to enjoy those that appreciate our efforts04:03
daftykinscya \o04:04
ubottuIn #ubuntu, Alpha-Omega said: ubottu: What is that telling me?06:47
akiva-thinkpadk1l, can I get my ban lifted from #ubuntu? I actually need support for installing ubuntu on this fellows laptop.07:07
akiva-thinkpadyou can put the ban back on afterwards07:08
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retro_laptopThere's someone with the nickname Arse_ in #ubuntu08:42
retro_laptopI find that offensive08:42
Flannelretro_laptop: Thanks for the heads up.08:45
retro_laptopOkay08:45
ikoniahello akiva-thinkpad12:13
akiva-thinkpadikonia, o/12:13
ikoniawelcome to #ubuntu-ops, how can we help you ?12:13
akiva-thinkpadI wanted a unban from #ubuntu. The reason for the ban is something that will be brought forth towards the irc council, as it was not blatantly against the rules and needs to be ironed out.12:14
ikoniawhats the issue ?12:15
ikoniaI'm happy to take a look12:15
ikoniawhy where you banned and when ?12:15
akiva-thinkpadikonia, in short, I advertised twice, once in november, and once two weeks ago, that the Ubuntu Q&A session was happening in approx 1 hour, and that people who are interested should go to #ubuntu-on-air12:15
akiva-thinkpadetc12:15
akiva-thinkpadI posted it just once.12:15
ikoniaok ?12:16
ikonialet me take a look12:16
ikoniahave you spoken to anyone about this ?12:16
akiva-thinkpadI was banned for that as that was considered as spam.12:16
ikoniaright, so it's normally pretty easy, please don't spam, and you get the ban removed12:16
ikoniahave you spoken to anyone about this ?12:16
akiva-thinkpadikonia, the individual who banned me, we disagreed respectfully as to what constituted as spam.12:16
ikoniait is spam12:16
ikoniabut not a problem to resolve12:17
akiva-thinkpadI think it needs to be reclassified, so I agree it is spam under the definition, but I'll be bringing it forth to the ubuntu irc council to ask for an exception, due to the importance of ubuntu community Q&A12:17
akiva-thinkpadikonia, until I get a decision from that third party, I will follow the rules and not spam.12:18
ikonia3rd party ??12:18
ikoniasorry no12:18
akiva-thinkpadikonia, 3rd party as in the irc council.12:18
ikoniait's #ubuntu it's a support channel12:18
ikoniablindly posting stuff like that isn't welcome, there are offtopic and targeted channels that may welcome it12:19
ikoniabut #ubuntu, no12:19
akiva-thinkpadikonia, Ive already agreed with the mod who banned me to do this.12:19
ikoniaif you're happy not posting spam, and understand it's not allowed I'll be happy to remove the ban on you12:19
akiva-thinkpadikonia, I'm happy to follow the rules. Alah the ubuntu COC; when disputes rise, you let the third party mediate and make a decision.12:20
ikoniamediate whaat ?12:20
akiva-thinkpadI will submit to whatever the ruling is now, and to whatever the ruling will be.12:20
ikoniaI've just said, don't spam and I'll remove the ban12:20
ikoniaam I missing something ?12:21
ikoniadon't spam = ban gone, no problem12:21
ikoniaacceptable ?12:22
akiva-thinkpadYou arent missing anything. You will get no issue from me. I will plan to go before the council, and will always follow the rules.12:22
Myrttiif you want to make things more difficult and wait longer, that works as well, but if you agree to not do it again and you understand the reasoning behind the ban, then ikonia can and is willing to lift the ban.12:22
Myrttithere's no need for the council to get involved if the issue is resolved right now12:22
ikoniathis is what I don't understand12:23
ikoniawhat has the council got to do with this ?? and why do you need to go before them ?? I'm offering to remove the ban if you don't spam more non-ubuntu support discussion12:23
akiva-thinkpadThe council is just commentary to this. The rules of IRC are allowed to change, I am submitting a proposal; it will either pass, or not pass.12:24
ikoniawhat rules ?12:25
akiva-thinkpadikonia, what constitutes as spam.12:25
ikoniarules that allow you to post unsolicited links ?12:25
ikoniafine, submit your request to them as long as your happy not posting unsoliciated links/information in the support channel, I'll remove the ban12:26
Myrttiakiva-thinkpad: there's so much ubuntu related stuff in the universe that if everything would be ok to be posted on a support channel, the whole channel would be rendered useless12:26
akiva-thinkpadYep; I agree to follow the rules. You guys do a good job doing what you are doing, and I will heed to your request.12:26
ikoniaperfect12:27
akiva-thinkpadMyrtti, Yes; that is a draw back.12:27
ikoniayou where banned because you refused to not do it in future12:27
ikoniaFYI: you where not banned for the actual spam12:27
ikoniajust removing the ban for you now12:27
akiva-thinkpadikonia, actually yes you are right; at that time i was being a bit cheeky, and immature.12:27
ikoniaright12:27
ikoniaso just keep it in context12:27
ikoniarather than telling me the ban was for posting one link12:28
ikoniano prolem though, you've agreed to stop12:28
akiva-thinkpadikonia, for that I am sorry.12:28
ikoniait wasn't it was because your attitude and you refused to stop12:28
ikoniaso the ban is removed12:28
akiva-thinkpadThat is fair to say. I conflate the two, and that was an error.12:28
ikoniayou're welcome to /part this channel and join #ubuntu n ow12:30
ikoniahopefully problem solvd12:30
ikoniasolved12:30
akiva-thinkpadMyrtti, to your question; I think an exception could be made for #ubuntu-on-air community Q&A, due to that it is an official canonical event, and that it is a support channel of sorts, its just the questions are more broader. Obviously my intention is to help grow the ubuntu community.12:31
ikoniaI don't think an exception should be made12:32
akiva-thinkpadMyrtti, Often what comes of this, is that gaining more people into that community, translates into people coming involved in development.12:32
ikoniaand will raise that view when you raise your request12:32
ikoniaso I suggest you raise your request12:32
ikonia /part this channel and join #ubuntu as your ban is removed12:32
akiva-thinkpadikonia, okay sure. I'm sorry for any trouble I caused you. Thanks for volunteering.12:32
ikonianot a problem12:33
ikoniano trouble12:33
ikonia5 minutes out of a day is not a problem at all12:33
ikonia@btlogin13:00
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ubottuIn #ubuntu-irc, bigcalm said: !rat-#ubuntu-uk is The Real Ale Train. A yearly Ubuntu UK loco event to celebrate friends, trains and ale. Saturday 19th September 2015 Hampshire, UK: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/3040-real-ale-train-2015/22:09
Unit193<#ubuntu-devel:Bl4ckD34tH> why i am banned on ubuntu?22:20
k1l_ban 6273422:22
k1l_seems like his server ip was an issue back then22:23

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