[05:12] <mapps> hi all
[05:12] <mapps> any of the night owls around;p
[05:17] <zmoylan-pi> *bark*
[05:18] <mapps> hi:D
[06:08] <mapps> this show allegiance is cool
[06:08] <mapps> hm dafty left so he was awake
[07:48] <knightwise> good  morning everyone
[10:00] <knightwise> morning everyone
[10:05]  * zmoylan-pi guesses knightwise will try a greeting of 'everyone' around 11:30 based on current 2 datapoints :-) 
[10:33] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[11:21] <MrIndeed> hey guys, i have no swap on ubuntu 14.04. It making my pc slow
[11:25] <popey> not having swap doesn't make your pc slow.
[11:27] <MrIndeed> no, before when i had swap my computer was working fine. Now, without it i have open 10 tabs on chrome and my pc tend to freeze
[11:27] <MrIndeed> *i cant open 10 tabs
[11:28] <popey> Typically when you have no swap and you run low on ram, things will start to get killed
[11:28] <MrIndeed> by any chance, how can i add swap
[11:28] <popey> how did you remove it?
[11:29] <MrIndeed> i dont remember...
[11:30] <popey> did you have some, which you disabled, or did you install without it?
[11:30] <MrIndeed> i remember having swap when i installed ubuntu
[11:30] <popey> in a terminal, type this command and paste the output
[11:30] <popey> sudo fdisk -l
[11:31] <popey> it will list all partitions on all disks
[11:31] <MrIndeed> Disk /dev/sda: 80.0 GB, 80000000000 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9726 cylinders, total 156250000 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x00000b63     Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System /dev/sda1   *        2048     3905535     1951744   82  Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sda2 
[11:40] <popey> so you still have some swap configured
[11:41] <popey> MrIndeed: can you paste the contents of /etc/fstab to http://paste.ubuntu.com please
[11:41] <MrIndeed> do i click on paste?
[11:43] <popey> yeah, put a nickname in and paste
[11:43] <popey> it will give you a url
[11:43] <popey> let me have that url
[11:43] <MrIndeed> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10220251/
[11:46] <popey> you have lots of linux installs?
[11:46] <popey> can you :-
[11:46] <popey> cat /etc/fstab
[11:46] <popey> and put that on pastebin?
[11:47] <MrIndeed> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10220349/
[11:51] <popey> ok, so see line 19?
[11:51] <popey> the # in front of it means it's commented out
[11:51] <popey> you could edit the file, remove that single # from that line and save it, then reboot and you're done.
[11:51] <popey> So, to edit the file:-
[11:52] <popey> sudo nano /etc/fstab
[11:52] <popey> (this will ask for your password)
[11:52] <MrIndeed> okay
[11:52] <MrIndeed> what should i edit
[11:53] <popey> go down to line 19 (the one that has #UUID=6bf84c3d-00ce-4e5e-9f01-b191c1125b2d none            swap    sw              0       0
[11:53] <popey> its the only line with # in front of UUID
[11:53] <popey> just use cursor arrows to move to that line, and get rid of the hash only
[11:53] <popey> then when done, press CTRL+X to save and exit
[11:54] <MrIndeed> so i make #UUID=6bf84c3d-00ce-4e5e-9f01-b191c1125b2d to UUID=6bf84c3d-00ce-4e5e-9f01-b191c1125b2d
[11:54] <popey> yes
[11:55] <MrIndeed> it says "There is still a process running in this terminal. Closing the terminal will kill it."
[11:56] <popey> did you ctrl+x to close nano?
[11:56] <popey> and say "yes" when it asks to save?
[11:57] <MrIndeed> when it says save modified buffer do i type yes or do i press y
[11:57] <popey> yes, then enter
[11:58] <MrIndeed> it still says swap not available
[11:59] <popey> what says that?
[12:00] <MrIndeed> system monitor
[12:00] <popey> ok. editing the file is one part
[12:00] <popey> there's two other things.
[12:00] <popey> 1) reboot for the change to take effect
[12:00] <popey> or
[12:00] <popey> and/or
[12:00] <popey> 2) type this command to activate swap immediately:-
[12:00] <popey> sudo swapon -a
[12:01] <MrIndeed> which one is the best option
[12:03] <popey> well, do "sudo swapon -a" now, to test
[12:03] <popey> and then run system monitor
[12:03] <popey> if it says you have swap then you're done.
[12:03] <popey> the reboot isn't _required_ it's just the quick-and-dirty way to make the change you made take effect
[12:03] <MrIndeed> swapon: cannot find the device for UUID=6bf84c3d-00ce-4e5e-9f01-b191c1125b2d swapon: /dev/mapper/cryptswap1: stat failed: No such file or directory
[12:03] <popey> oh dear
[12:03] <popey> do you have lots of linux installs on that machine?
[12:04] <popey> oh, no, just one, with lots of partitions?
[12:04] <MrIndeed> one with lots of partitions
[12:04] <popey> what if you "sudo swapon /dev/sda1" ?
[12:05] <MrIndeed> swapon: /dev/sda1: read swap header failed: Invalid argument
[12:06] <popey> ok, lets undo the change we made
[12:06] <popey> sudo nano /etc/fstab
[12:06] <popey> put the # back on line 19
[12:08] <MrIndeed> how do i save
[12:08] <popey> ctrl+x
[12:09] <MrIndeed>  it wont close
[12:09] <MrIndeed> the nano
[12:09] <popey> what does it say when you do ctrl+x?
[12:10] <MrIndeed> save modified file
[12:10] <popey> so, say "yes" then enter
[12:11] <MrIndeed> oh
[12:11] <MrIndeed> okay
[12:17] <popey> MrIndeed: what happens if you run "sudo swapon -s" ?
[12:18] <MrIndeed> Filename				Type		Size	Used	Priority
[12:18] <popey> thats it?
[12:18] <popey> what about when you run "dmesg | grep swap" ?
[12:19] <MrIndeed> nothing
[12:20] <popey> hmm
[12:21] <popey> we can reformat your swap partition, which should fix it.
[12:22] <popey> sudo mkfs.swap /dev/sda1
[12:22] <popey> ^ that will format the swap partition
[12:22] <DJones> Just a thought, is the uud correct for the swap partion
[12:22] <DJones> s/uud/uuid/
[12:22] <popey> well it can't even manually mount it
[12:22] <popey> 12:05 < MrIndeed> swapon: /dev/sda1: read swap header failed: Invalid argument
[12:23] <DJones> Right
[12:23] <MrIndeed> eh
[12:23] <MrIndeed> sudo mkfs.swap /dev/sda1 sudo: mkfs.swap: command not found
[12:24] <popey> oops
[12:24] <popey> my bad
[12:24] <popey> sudo mkswap /dev/sda1
[12:27] <popey> so, run that, and it will format your swap partition
[12:27] <popey> then you should be able to run:-
[12:27] <popey> sudo swapon /dev/sda1
[12:28] <popey> and it should be active?
[12:28] <MrIndeed> Setting up swapspace version 1, size = 1951740 KiB no label, UUID=5b796113-7280-4ac7-9080-1c115a727b90
[12:28] <MrIndeed> oh yes
[12:28] <MrIndeed> it worked
[12:28] <popey> ok, thats okay for this session
[12:28] <popey> but we need to edit /etc/fstab again to make it permanent
[12:29] <popey> so:-
[12:29] <popey> sudo nano /etc/fstab
[12:29] <popey> add a new line:-
[12:29] <MrIndeed> make a new line?
[12:29] <popey> UUID=5b796113-7280-4ac7-9080-1c115a727b90 none swap sw 0 0
[12:29] <popey> ya
[12:30] <MrIndeed> where do i put this new line
[12:30] <popey> anywhere
[12:30] <popey> it doesn't matter
[12:30] <MrIndeed> at the buttom
[12:30] <popey> thats fine
[12:30] <popey> once you have added that line, we need to remove another line
[12:30] <MrIndeed> okay
[12:31] <popey> add a # to the /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 line
[12:31] <popey> to the start
[12:32] <MrIndeed> to this "/dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw 0 0"
[12:32] <popey> ya
[12:32] <MrIndeed> #/dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw 0 0
[12:32] <popey> looks good.
[12:32] <MrIndeed> and than save it?
[12:33] <popey> yes
[12:33] <MrIndeed> done
[12:34] <popey> you should be good now. we can test it though
[12:34] <popey> first, we can temporarily disable swap in this session:-
[12:34] <MrIndeed> lets do that
[12:34] <popey> sudo swapoff /dev/sda1
[12:34] <MrIndeed> okay
[12:34] <popey> then we can test the config you edited:-
[12:34] <popey> sudo swapon -a
[12:35] <MrIndeed> swapon: cannot find the device for UUID=5b796113-7280-4ac7-9080-1c115a727b90
[12:35] <popey> wat
[12:35] <MrIndeed> i know
[12:35] <popey> this uuid stuf is nonsense :)
[12:36] <popey> ok, edit the file again
[12:36] <popey> sudo nano /etc/fstab
[12:36] <popey> we can do it the old school way
[12:36] <popey> change the line from UUID=5b796113-7280-4ac7-9080-1c115a727b90 none swap sw 0 0   to...
[12:36] <popey> /dev/sda1 none swap sw 0 0
[12:36] <MrIndeed> wait, did you tell me to put a '# on the new line
[12:36] <MrIndeed> to this
[12:36] <MrIndeed> sudo nano /etc/fstab
[12:37] <MrIndeed> UUID=5b796113-7280-4ac7-9080-1c115a727b90 none swap sw 0 0
[12:37] <popey> no, that line should look as you have it
[12:37] <popey> just to confirm
[12:37] <popey> do you want to paste the current state of it to http://paste.ubuntu.com ?
[12:37] <popey> so we can see where we are?
[12:37] <MrIndeed> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10220964/
[12:38] <popey> i see nothing wrong there
[12:38] <popey> but screw it, lets change it (or comment that line out and make a new one)
[12:38] <popey> dev/sda1 none swap sw 0 0
[12:38] <popey> er
[12:38] <popey>  /dev/sda1 none swap sw 0 0
[12:39] <MrIndeed> make a new line
[12:39] <popey> ya
[12:39] <MrIndeed> okay did that
[12:39] <popey> ok, save
[12:39] <popey> then try "sudo swapon -a" again?
[12:40] <MrIndeed> no luck
[12:40] <MrIndeed> swapon: cannot find the device for UUID=5b796113-7280-4ac7-9080-1c115a727b90
[12:40] <popey> uh
[12:41] <MrIndeed> wait
[12:41] <popey> did you comment that line out?:)
[12:41] <popey> (you need to # out that line)
[12:41] <MrIndeed> swap showed up on system moniter
[12:41] <popey> ok, so the last line worked, but it barfed on the UUID line
[12:41] <popey> so you still need to comment that
[12:41] <popey> by "comment" I mean put # in front of it
[12:41] <MrIndeed> on what line
[12:41] <popey> UUID=5b796113-7280-4ac7-9080-1c115a727b90 none swap sw 0 0
[12:42] <popey> that one should have # in front
[12:42] <MrIndeed> okay
[12:43] <popey> I think we're done?
[12:43] <MrIndeed> do we test?
[12:43] <popey> sure
[12:43] <popey> sudo swapoff /dev/sda1
[12:44] <popey> sudo swapon -a
[12:44] <MrIndeed> it works!!!
[12:44] <popey> \o/
[12:44] <popey> Great success.
[12:45] <MrIndeed> one more thing, should swap remain at 0%?
[12:45] <popey> it gets used as needed
[12:46] <MrIndeed> you are awesome mate
[12:46] <popey> heh
[12:46] <popey> thanks
[12:46] <MrIndeed> break a leg
[12:46] <popey> \o/
[12:49] <brobostigon> ubuntu on click, :)
[12:52] <popey> the phone?
[12:57] <brobostigon> on a normal pc.
[12:58] <brobostigon> on dev pc's, in an american prison.
[12:58] <brobostigon> or teaching pc's.
[12:58] <brobostigon> teaching prisoners programming,.
[13:06] <popey> ah okay, yeah. i saw a report about that
[13:08] <brobostigon> ah
[14:13] <mickybadia> #python
[14:47] <diddledan> morning
[14:49] <Myrtti> time of day
[14:50] <diddledan> Universal Gretting Time
[14:53] <bashrc> tzag
[15:57] <knightwise> heyhey
[15:58] <knightwise> hmmm wifi is dodgy on my Surface pro linux install
[15:58] <knightwise> lots of dropped packets
[15:58] <knightwise> ive seen this before
[15:59] <knightwise> looks like ill have to setup a different NON-N wifi router
[17:26] <penguin42> knightwise: Which chipset is the wireless? There's a set of intel chipsets I've seen people moan about
[17:56] <diddledan> it's valentines day which means it's time to settle down and watch some bloody violence in a mancave
[18:08] <zmoylan-pi> fifth element, love story with action comedy and sci fi :-)
[18:09] <diddledan> heh, that's a good movie
[18:12] <zmoylan-pi> it meets all your requirements
[18:24] <knightwise> penguin42: How can i see that ?
[18:24] <knightwise> Ive had some issues with wifi chipsets and my brand of router before (when I installed ubuntu on my macbook pro)
[18:25] <knightwise> to be sure i've setup a second wifi access point with a different chipset and set to BG only.
[18:25] <knightwise> so far it looks like the wifi performance is improving
[18:25] <knightwise> now all I need to get working is the suspend or even hibernate functionality
[18:27] <penguin42> knightwise: lspci
[18:31] <knightwise> http://pastebin.com/y9Tqi7FL
[18:33] <penguin42> knightwise: Fun, I don't see any wifi - so hmm maybe it's not pci
[18:33] <penguin42> knightwise: maybe lsusb?
[18:33] <knightwise> http://pastebin.com/i0qye7dy
[18:34] <penguin42> knightwise: ah there you go
[18:34] <penguin42> knightwise: It's the Marvell chip
[18:35] <knightwise> Stupid spiderman :)
[18:35] <knightwise> Marvel :)
[18:35] <penguin42> knightwise: Yeh, it uses telepathy rather than wifi
[18:36] <knightwise> LOL
[18:38] <knightwise> ive hooked it up to the BG router and now it seems to be goin g ok
[18:39] <knightwise> battery life is awesome here
[18:59] <SuperEngineer> knightwise, just returned to pooter & read your "battery life is awesome" comment... you need a psychiatrist - you are not a battery ;)
[21:37] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[21:37] <bigcalm> !info hpodder
[21:39] <penguin42> good evening
[21:39] <bigcalm> Seems to have been left behind in 12.04. What to do?
[21:39] <penguin42> what was it?
[21:40] <bigcalm> A podcatcher
[21:41] <bigcalm> Looks to have been abandoned :(
[21:41] <bigcalm> I need a headless podcast downloader
[21:42] <popey> hpodder
[21:42] <popey> oh
[21:42]  * popey scrolls up
[21:43] <bigcalm> Mopping up after upgrading my micro server from 12.04 to 14.04
[21:44] <bigcalm> Good to see people still downloading ubuntu-mate-14.10-desktop-i386.iso from me
[21:44] <bigcalm> Radio of 58 now
[21:51] <popey> why not just grab hpodder from 12.04?
[21:52] <bigcalm> If it works, fair enough
[21:59] <bigcalm> Who controls the factoids on lubotu3 and how do I go about changing one of them?
[21:59] <bigcalm> I recall going into a channel last year, but I don't recall which one
[22:09] <popey> #ubuntu-irc
[22:10] <bigcalm> Yeah, tracked down the info via lengthy googling
[22:10] <bigcalm> !rat
[22:10] <bigcalm> Nope, that's not updated yet
[22:14] <popey> it wont if you dont update it :)
[22:15] <bigcalm> I have. It's waiting on #ubuntu-ops to confirm the update
[22:19] <bigcalm> I got an automated support ticket response to my mailing list post from powerpro+tidQVWSOBK39I@rhinosupport.com
[22:19]  * bigcalm scratches his head
[22:30] <davmor2> MooDoo: you about
[22:33] <popey> bigcalm: bought my ticket
[22:33] <popey> bigcalm: wat
[22:35] <bigcalm> popey: yay
[22:35] <bigcalm> popey: wat wat?
[22:38] <bigcalm> !rat
[22:38] <bigcalm> Ho hum
[22:38] <bigcalm> Might get changed at some point :)
[22:38]  * bigcalm heads to bed
[22:40] <zmoylan-pi> so instead of a booze cruise it's an ale rail :-)
[22:41] <popey> hah
[22:41] <popey> its really jolly good fun