[03:08] <Rah8r> hi. does anyone know if its possible to run linux and android in dual boot mode if the "full" encryption/android is active?
[03:24] <nhaines> Rah8r: I know that it's not possible.
[03:25] <Rah8r> uhh too bad, thx
[03:26] <Rah8r> i have an nexus tablet with usb host functionality, might this be an option?
[03:27] <Rah8r>  to leave the encrypted android installtion untouched
[03:41] <JohnBoyZear> evening everyone... wondering which channel to use for the "tablet" version for a flo device (nexus 7 2013).  Any idea?
[03:42] <JohnBoyZear> channel devel only gets me the phone version, which works fantastic, but I'm after the tablet interface
[05:26] <acigos> hi
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> https://twitter.com/ubuntu nice tweet for you devs :p
[05:56] <uhhimhere> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG9sIt8hAF4&feature=youtu.be
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> uhhimhere: sailfishOs is android based?
[06:01] <Stskeeps> no, glibc-based, uses android drivers in comparable fashion like ubuntu does it (some minor technical differences)
[06:01] <uhhimhere> lotuspsychje, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sailfish_OS
[06:01] <uhhimhere> Sailfish is a mobile operating system (OS) combining the Linux kernel, the Mer core and proprietary software written by mobile software developer Jolla.
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> cool
[06:01] <Stskeeps> probably a bit off topic here though
[06:02] <uhhimhere> lotuspsychje, Sailfish OS can be used on any hardware with a Linux kernel supported by the Mer core distribution
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> its a good thing to know whats going on in the world :p
[06:02] <uhhimhere> yup
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> uhhimhere: i read an article about ubuntu snappy on raspberry
[08:27] <uhhimhere> cant really find an in depth review of the ubuntu e4.5
[08:27] <uhhimhere> why is that
[09:16] <Rubesman> are there ready to use packages of ubuntu sdk scopescreator and so on for not debian based distros?
[10:46] <rootcube315> hello
[10:53] <rootcube315>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER rootcube315 orycwnktjkzy
[10:54] <rootcube315> aw damn sorry wrong send, fingers are toofast
[10:54] <ogra_> time for a new password :)
[10:54] <rootcube315> yeah
[10:56] <NymeriaFR> Hi guys
[10:56] <NymeriaFR> I have a little question for you
[10:56] <rootcube315> check
[10:56] <NymeriaFR> If I use docker in my application
[10:57] <NymeriaFR> is docker will install dependence each time I start an application or only once ?
[10:57] <ogra_> you want to use docker on your phone ?
[10:57] <rootcube315> how much space does ubuntu touch needs so i can put in my alcatel one touch
[10:58] <ogra_> rootcube315, you will have to port it ... it should get along with ~2G
[10:58] <ogra_> (but it will likely not get along with the other specs on the alcatel one ...)
[10:59] <rootcube315> ogra_, i'd like to try if this is working
[10:59] <NymeriaFR> ogra_, yes I want use it
[10:59] <ogra_> it will likely be as choppy as firefoxOS is on it
[11:00] <rootcube315> ogra_, i'd rather not
[11:00] <NymeriaFR> I want use torrent in my application, I have watch "downow" source code
[11:00] <NymeriaFR> and it use docker for install libtorrent
[11:00] <edakiri> uhhimhere: what is the best review you found so far?
[11:00] <rootcube315> maybe i'll wait a little longer on meizu to ship it here in my place
[11:01] <ogra_> NymeriaFR, then you need to ship docker inside yur click package
[11:02] <ogra_> and configure it in a way that it can work under the confinement constraints a click package has
[11:02] <NymeriaFR> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~nogzatalz/downow/trunk/files/head:/docker/
[11:03] <NymeriaFR> If this application is installed and I use the same docker file
[11:03] <NymeriaFR> is the libtorrent will be shared between applications ?
[11:04]  * ogra_ has not much clue about docker 
[11:04] <ogra_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Specifications/ApplicationConfinement is something yu might want to read though
[11:14] <edakiri> How do you run Ubuntu Touch on a PC for testing, exploration, & development?
[11:14] <edakiri> I would have Linux as the host OS.
[11:15] <rootcube315> i think you need an emulator
[11:17] <rootcube315> genymotion?
[11:17] <ogra_> you use the ubuntu-emulator :)
[11:17] <NymeriaFR> In QtCreate
[11:17] <NymeriaFR> When you install ubuntu-sdk ppa
[11:17] <ogra_> http://davidplanella.org/ubuntu-emulator-quickstart-guide/
[11:18] <rootcube315> ah ogra_ is right ubuntu-emulation
[11:18] <NymeriaFR> you have qtCreate who take care about that
[13:02] <mariogrip_> Where can i find the /ubuntu-root/script/touch file on the device?
[14:35] <jeepingben> I see that there is a deprecated porting guide and a pending porting guide.  Is the information in the deprecated guide now incorrect?
[14:35] <jeepingben> There is a blizzard where I am today and porting to find7a might be a good indoor project.
[14:36] <jeepingben> I have a working cyanogenmod build environment which sounds like it is a major part of porting.
[15:15] <pngo_> is there a way to mount usb stick?
[15:23] <ogra_> on your phone ?
[15:43] <SturmFlut> popey: Have you already tried https://appstore.bhdouglass.com/app/kirino.hyuchia ? Looks like we're getting our own Siri/Cortana already ;)
[15:45] <popey> i haven't
[15:46] <popey> saw it hit the store but didnt know what it was
[15:47] <SturmFlut> popey: Looks like a simple chat bot which has some integration with online services
[16:25] <pngo_> ogra_, yes
[16:26] <ogra_> pngo_, well, a) you would need an OTG cable ... b) you would need USB-OTG support in your kernel ...
[16:26] <ogra_> b) isnt enabled by default in the ubuntu phone kernel config i think
[16:27] <ogra_> since that clashes with adb/mtp/android_gadget
[16:28] <Stskeeps> hrm? doesn't on intel chips
[16:28] <meretrix> I want to buy a 10" tablet on which to run Ubuntu.  Is the Nexus 10 the only one currently worth considering (i.e., hardware supported and actively developed)?
[16:28] <ogra_> Stskeeps, yeah, indeed
[16:29] <ogra_> on the phones we support it is that way though ... no intel in there yet :)
[16:29] <Stskeeps> yeah.. usb on mobile devices, crazy stuff
[16:29] <ogra_> yep
[16:29]  * ogra_ wonders if the jolla browser is capable of WebRTC 
[16:29] <ogra_> seems the ubuntu one isnt yet :/
[16:30] <Stskeeps> ogra_: i think our engine may be a little behind, we do webgl at least but webrtc is rather new
[16:30] <ogra_> yeah
[16:31]  * ogra_ just pushed a webrtc server package to the store ... for snappy ... would be cool to have an accomaning .click with a phone app :) 
[16:40] <Wuerfel95> Hello
[16:40] <popey> yo
[16:41] <Wuerfel95> Will there come an Ubuntu touch version for the OnePlus One?
[16:41] <popey> If someone ports it, sure.
[16:45] <popey> !devices | Wuerfel95
[16:45] <popey> thats got an (outdated) list of supported devices
[16:45] <Elleo> ogra_: from my tests webrtc stuff half works with oxide; you can setup communication and receive video and audio, but the stuff for sending data from cameras/microphones/etc. isn't hooked up yet I think
[16:46] <ogra_> yeah, that is how it looks like
[16:46] <ogra_> well, i can wait :)
[16:46] <popey> more hugs for Elleo for podbird. It's my go-to podcast client now. It was the last thing I still used my iPhone for.
[16:46] <ogra_> i assume that needs also security-policy and platform-api integration first in the browser
[16:47] <Elleo> popey: cool :)
[18:14] <fredflegel> hello! i am an ubuntu user very interested in ubuntu touch! currently i am trying it out in an emulator.
[18:15] <fredflegel> what i am missing already is a way to sync contacts with carddav and an calendar
[18:15] <fredflegel> are they only missing in the emulator? if so, how to try the "real" ubuntu phone?
[18:18] <tabbytabtab> Isn't the calendar in the software store?
[18:24] <fredflegel> @tabbytabtab yes it is, thanks. because it is possible to set the system language to german, i searched in german with zero results.
[18:27] <fredflegel> but regarding caldav/carddav: there is currently no possiblilty to sync using the ui
[18:27] <fredflegel> ?
[18:28] <tabbytabtab> I'm not quite sure on those two things, sorry.
[18:28] <fredflegel> do you have an ubuntu-touch device yourself?
[18:29] <tabbytabtab> Yes, but I currently don't have it installed because i wanted to install it as my main OS instead of a dual boot with android.
[18:29] <tabbytabtab> Nexus 7 (2013) specifically
[18:32] <fredflegel> interesting. i noticed i might even be in the wrong channel. are -phone and -touch seperate project/products?
[18:37] <tabbytabtab> I think you're in the correct channel. I could be wrong, though.
[19:14] <taiebot> Does anyone know a command line to clear the notification. My led is flashing continuously and a reboot to clear a notification is a little bit too much
[19:40] <popey> taiebot: you can echo a 0 somewhere down in /sys :)
[19:40] <popey> (which works)
[19:42] <taiebot> popey: still flashing here
[19:42] <taiebot> (vivid r100)
[22:12] <SturmFlut> Are there any plans for a Printing API? How does a confined app talk to a printer?
[22:48] <^jaxx^> Anyone know how I can tweak the scroll sensitivity?
[23:09] <nhaines> SturmFlut: I was just thinking abotu printing APIs.  :)  But that doesn't count as plans!
[23:36] <SturmFlut> nhaines: If Ubuntu Touch had a proper printing service, say CUPS with lots of shipped drivers, that would be an extreme advantage over Android.
[23:41] <nhaines> SturmFlut: not sure about that.  Android already has a proper printing service with lots of shipped drivers.
[23:42] <nhaines> I actually printed a royalty report I got on email through my phone before I'd turned off my computer.  Since the royalty was on an Ubuntu book, it made me think "hmm, Ubuntu on my phone should be able to do this."  :)
[23:42] <SturmFlut> nhaines: I wouldn't call Google Cloud print a "proper" service
[23:44] <SturmFlut> What if I am without an Internet connection and just want to connect my old USB printer via USB-to-go? That should be possible. Or printing to any network printer on the local network.
[23:45] <SturmFlut> A proper printing service should allow any use case that is currently possible with a desktop computer, just with a phone or tablet
[23:45] <nhaines> SturmFlut: Donno.  I printed directly to my HP printer without using Google Cloud Print.
[23:45] <nhaines> Like I said, I did it directly from my phone without my computer turned on.
[23:46] <SturmFlut> nhaines: Using HP ePrint?
[23:47] <nhaines> No, HP Print Service Plugin.
[23:47] <nhaines> It integrates into the Android printing service.
[23:47] <nhaines> (I have used ePrint in the past.  Almost as convenient.)
[23:55] <SturmFlut> nhaines: Yeah, the problem is that not every printer manufacturer provides a plug-in and those who do just support a limited number of models. This is very far from what CUPS can do.
[23:55] <SturmFlut> nhaines: ...and a lot of those vendor plug-ins send your documents to their servers for conversion.