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Unit193knome: Not sure if that was agreed upon, so sent the merge. :P00:05
knomemerge on what?00:07
Unit193https://code.launchpad.net/~unit193/xubuntu-docs/fixes/+merge/24976800:24
knomeoh.00:27
knomeyou didn't set me as the reviewer directly so i didn't get the email00:27
Unit193Nor for the other one I believe.00:29
Unit193I wasn't going to bug you directly on that one.00:29
elfyknome: what we really want is - here is link, thread closed01:05
Unit193My goodness.01:06
elfyyour goodness - that's sleep on time?01:07
knomeelfy, what? where? :)01:07
elfypublic is great - publically going on and on about how the only way it all works if for *your* choice to be the chosen one is either windows or bollocks01:08
elfyknome: here :|01:08
knomei'm afraid i'm not getting the context? :)01:10
Unit193My guess is the border thing?01:13
elfy[01:02] <knome> [19:56:07] both -users and -devel i suppose?01:16
elfythat01:16
elfyshame we can't link on m/l and then close it 01:16
knomeoh, heh01:16
knomeNOW i understand01:16
knomethe lack of context is that i'm not subbed to the users list01:17
elfysorry - a LOT of word ^^01:17
Unit193Ah, that's why I'm lost.01:17
elfynah01:17
elfynothing to do with -users01:17
knomeoh..01:17
knomethen i'm lost too :D01:17
elfyto do with this is one of those things that would be so much better as a link01:18
elfythat people cannot then go on an on about ad nauseam on any m/l about 01:18
Unit193I get the idea, concept from forums.01:18
knomeright... yeah01:18
elfycos it's not going to change 01:18
knomefortunately you can always ignore the threads ;)01:18
elfyUnit193: not really - concept from 53 years 01:19
knomei mean at least we're giving them the possibility to give their input in a way that's meaningful for us01:19
knomeelfy, i'm sure people have been stubborn before you ;)01:19
elfyyea - not got an issue with that 01:19
elfyknome: LOL01:19
knomeso what's the issue?01:19
knomeor is there no issue?01:19
elfyonly that it's an un fixable issue so unltimately pointless to discuss01:20
knomeyeah01:20
elfyis all :)01:20
knomehuzzah, we have 37 responses01:20
elfygood01:21
elfyI've not seen request yet 01:21
knomewhat request?01:21
knome7 people have told us they want to learn more about contributing01:21
elfyto the form01:21
knomeweird01:21
knomei've posted it to both mail lists01:22
elfyyea - not seen it here yet :D01:22
knomeoh *HERE*01:22
* knome facepalms01:22
elfysorry - long day followed by longer evening ...01:23
knomehttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2015-February/010630.html01:23
knomei'm happy that "only" 50% consider themselves power users01:23
elfyyep 01:23
elfynot looked at results - just the not being proofread :P01:24
elfyseries ... just for next time :D01:24
* knome shrugs01:24
knomeWHO CARES01:24
knome:)01:24
elfyso does elfy 01:24
elfyshrug that is :;01:24
knomehaha01:25
elfyoh damnation01:26
knomewhat now01:26
elfyjust noticed something - if you fail to add e-mail address and then say you want us to contact you - it doesn't give you a "oops"01:28
knomethe oops is that you didn't pass the IQ test, so you shall not be contacted01:29
knomemore seriously, we might want to fix that for the next survey01:29
elfyexcellent01:29
elfyneeded an out for April the after :D01:30
knomei don't think it's a huge issue :)01:30
elfyme neither - but, while it's entirely likely that none will do that - perhaps a step we should sort out next time01:31
knomeyep01:33
knomeand maybe we want to improve the whole contact stuff altogether01:33
elfymhm01:33
knomei don't know how yet...01:33
sidihttps://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11095 this bug needs testing from Xubuntu 14.10 users please!04:32
ubottubugzilla.xfce.org bug 11095 in General "Desktop Settings no wallpaper choices shown" [Normal,Needinfo]04:32
brainwoshNoskcaj, xfwm4 4.11.3 adds corner tiling, so bug 1069387 should be fixed too10:30
ubottubug 1069387 in Xfwm4 "tiling should also resize to a quarter of the desktop" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106938710:30
brainwoshfrom the release notes:10:31
brainwosh- Add corner tiling10:31
brainwoshthe upstream report has not been closed yet10:32
brainwoshalso, bug 1030359 should be fixed now (according to the linked upstream report)10:35
ubottubug 1030359 in xfwm4 (Ubuntu) "Cairo Dock disappear when changing gtk theme" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103035910:35
brainwoshand bug 904958 too10:49
ubottubug 904958 in xfwm4 (Ubuntu) "xfwm4: top border still present when window is maximized" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90495810:49
brainwoshNoskcaj, ^10:49
brainwoshochosi, the var name was changed with https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/commit/84992762a9172c526ae7253a1f2e5d734a2d74ef13:01
brainwoshshould the original names be restored?13:01
brainwoshI'm experimenting a bit with the window borders, basically following http://sevkeifert.blogspot.de/2014/12/increase-window-border-size-in-xubuntu.html13:05
Unit193Debian #77847014:59
ubottuDebian bug 778470 in xscreensaver "xscreensaver: Add support for lighdm "new login" feature." [Minor,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/77847014:59
bluesabrebrainwosh, Noskcaj: xfwm4 4.11.3 uploaded, then saw the tagged bugs posted later, and marked those fixed as well15:58
brainwoshbluesabre, awesome16:00
brainwoshso, xfce4-settings next? :)16:00
bluesabreyup, waiting for ochosi to merge his branch16:01
bluesabreworking on getting a greeter release out today16:01
ochosibluesabre: was out until recently, hjudt says the branch is leaky, so i'll have to look again before i can merge16:23
ochosibrainwosh: the result (thick borders) somehow looks shitty, just look at the border where the toolbar is16:24
ochosii'd rather add some inner border16:24
brainwoshit looks ok to me, but adding extra border space to the top seems to be tricky16:25
ochosialso, i'm not sure what you're referring to with that greybird commit you linked. the color-pickup was only for the inner border, not the window border16:25
brainwoshthe pointer variable names16:26
ochosiah, right, well those are just copies16:26
ochosinot sure that matters really though16:26
ochosii used to just use symlinks16:27
ochosibut yeah, feel free to submit a merge-request, gotta look at other things now16:27
brainwoshit does not seem to matter, just noticed it while editing these files :)16:27
dkesselslickymaster: the call for german translations has already resulted in new translations :) i am currently reviewing them17:23
slickymastergreat dkessel. Thanks17:47
dkessel... and we're at 70% :)18:10
slickymasterUnit193, knome, is https://code.launchpad.net/~unit193/xubuntu-docs/fixes/+merge/249768 because/based on our discussion of last friday?18:27
Unit193slickymaster: I put it there, it's up to you two to decide if it gets merged.18:35
slickymasteryeah, I know, but does the MP comes as a consequence of our discussion?18:38
Unit193Kind of, I was working on the docs and submitting other merge proposals already.18:39
slickymasteryeah saw those also18:39
slickymastercan I bother you tomorrow again with the stats on the -docs po files Unit193?18:40
slickymasterI won't do anything today, it's almost dinner time and the little one still has to take his shower18:41
slickymasterbefore dining 18:41
Unit193slickymaster: Well, not sure what else to tell you.  The po files you get by checking out the branch isn't up to date (easily fixed by merging strings from the pot, but still.)18:55
slickymasterok Unit193, talk to you tomorrow19:07
Unit193Yep!  Good rest.19:08
dupingpinghi guys.19:34
dupingpinghow can i join this team?19:34
dupingpingwith ubuntu member ship?19:35
ochosidupingping: hi19:39
ochosiyou mean the xubuntu team?19:39
dupingpingyes20:10
dupingpingi'll contribute for xubuntu.20:10
dupingpinghttps://sourceforge.net/projects/ubuntu-dock/files/?source=navbar20:10
dupingpingit's my own project named as ubuntu-dock like as MacOSX's Dock20:11
dupingpingi think that if it's used in xubuntu, xubuntu will be more useful and beautiful.20:12
dupingpingochosi, u there?20:12
ochosido you have a link to the source as well?20:12
dupingpingi did not upload the source yet.20:13
dupingpingi am going to upload the source in to launchpad.net20:13
ochosiok20:13
dupingpingare you a xubuntu member or leader?20:14
dupingpingCan i join xubuntu team?20:15
ochosii'm the project lead, yeah20:15
dupingpingoh, that's great.20:15
ochosimembership is granted through contribution around here, not by me saying "yes" or "no"20:16
ochosii suggest you keep hanging out here, that's a first step towards joining the team20:16
dupingpingi'll send you my email address, thus we can meet often.20:16
dupingpingyes.20:16
ochosino need to send me your email address20:16
ochosiwe communicate mostly on IRC, sometimes on the mailinglist20:17
dupingpingokay, i'll remember your id at here.20:17
dupingpingoh, sir.20:17
dupingpingmy time is 4:17 AM20:17
dupingpingyour time is20:17
ochosino need to "sir" anyone here20:17
dupingpingic20:17
ochosisome of us are in europe, some in the US20:18
ochosiand australia too, iirc20:18
dupingpingi'm in asia20:18
dupingping:)20:18
Unit193ochosi: But we don't count those people..20:18
ochosiUnit193: hehe20:18
dupingpingsee you tomorrow, now i'm very tired for develop the ubuntu-dock20:20
dupingpingand very late time.20:20
dupingpingbye20:20
brainwoshochosi, should we tell him about plank and co? :)20:25
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Unit193Alright, I'm going with LP isn't importing translations from LP...20:47
Unit193Why are translations such a pain?!20:47
Unit193http://paste.openstack.org/show/pbdYVOf4cXm84GKaVa9F/ downloaded an export from LP, that's the diff between the one in the repo and..20:49
Unit193And in case people didn't notice, the vivid ISOs went the same way as 14.04.2.22:27
knomeUnit193, heh.22:27
bluesabrehm?22:30
Unit193vivid has several unity packages (control center, etc), unity-greeter in addition to gtk, qt libs, and even more fun: both xscreensaver and gnome-screensaver.  As if locking wasn't complicated enough. :P22:31
Unit193http://paste.openstack.org/show/7HZrBRWkuUeNOVixOTdU for a look, and I can strip versions to get a cleaner look.22:31
bluesabrewon't that be resolved with the blacklist definitions in the updated seed?22:33
Unit193Nope.  Their breakage, hopefully their fix.22:34
Unit193Ah yes, another power manager too!  Just what we always needed!22:34
bluesabreyessss22:35
Unit193Heh, do they plan to land these type of changes right before FF? :P22:36
bluesabreSeems almost typical22:41
Unit193Yes, yes it does.22:43
Unit193elfy: Might not want to sync images, have the 14.04.2 problem in vivid now.22:43
flexiondotorg_bluesabre, Hi22:53
bluesabreflexiondotorg_: hey22:54
flexiondotorg_bluesabre, Does XFCE or Xubuntu use gsettings at all?22:54
bluesabreyes22:54
flexiondotorg_I've noticed some odd behaviour.22:54
flexiondotorg_Confirmed with Fedora rawhide devs.22:54
flexiondotorg_glib2 2.43.3 in 15.04 is not applying all gsettings values straight away.22:55
flexiondotorg_For example, in MATE changing a theme not everything is applied until log out/in.22:55
flexiondotorg_Or change sound theme settings are not activated directly, requires a log out/it.22:56
flexiondotorg_bluesabre, elfy Can you confirm that gsettings are, or are not, working correctly in Xubuntu 15.04.22:56
flexiondotorg_Fedora rawhide suspect glib2 breakage or change in behaviour.22:56
bluesabreone sec22:57
Unit193bluesabre: Got anything you need assist with?22:57
bluesabreflexiondotorg_: it seems to be working correctly here22:58
flexiondotorg_So gsettings key/value pairs are working. Other are not.22:58
bluesabrexfconf, gsettings both work currently with today's daily22:59
bluesabreUnit193: want to package light-locker in -staging for https://github.com/the-cavalry/light-locker/tree/lid-closed (probably a basic patch on top for now)23:00
* bluesabre is working prepping the lightdm-gtk-greeter release23:00
bluesabreon23:00
flexiondotorg_bluesabre, lightdm-gtk-settings 😃23:09
bluesabrethat comes next :)23:10
flexiondotorg_bluesabre, This commit looks suspicious to me - https://git.gnome.org/browse/glib/commit/?id=8ff5668a458344da22d30491e3ce726d861b361923:10
Unit193Sounds like fun, bluesabre.  Need it today?23:10
bluesabreUnit193: no hurry23:10
bluesabreMy priorities now are the greeter and mugshot/catfish updates before thursday23:10
Unit193Great, the weather is up to -3F, might be time for a walk this evening.23:11
Unit193Just remember, ping me if you need me.23:11
bluesabreUnit193: ofc, thanks - also need to endorse your packageset app23:11
knomemm23:13

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