[00:05] <Unit193> knome: Not sure if that was agreed upon, so sent the merge. :P
[00:07] <knome> merge on what?
[00:24] <Unit193> https://code.launchpad.net/~unit193/xubuntu-docs/fixes/+merge/249768
[00:27] <knome> oh.
[00:27] <knome> you didn't set me as the reviewer directly so i didn't get the email
[00:29] <Unit193> Nor for the other one I believe.
[00:29] <Unit193> I wasn't going to bug you directly on that one.
[01:05] <elfy> knome: what we really want is - here is link, thread closed
[01:06] <Unit193> My goodness.
[01:07] <elfy> your goodness - that's sleep on time?
[01:07] <knome> elfy, what? where? :)
[01:08] <elfy> public is great - publically going on and on about how the only way it all works if for *your* choice to be the chosen one is either windows or bollocks
[01:08] <elfy> knome: here :|
[01:10] <knome> i'm afraid i'm not getting the context? :)
[01:13] <Unit193> My guess is the border thing?
[01:16] <elfy> [01:02] <knome> [19:56:07] both -users and -devel i suppose?
[01:16] <elfy> that
[01:16] <elfy> shame we can't link on m/l and then close it 
[01:16] <knome> oh, heh
[01:16] <knome> NOW i understand
[01:17] <knome> the lack of context is that i'm not subbed to the users list
[01:17] <elfy> sorry - a LOT of word ^^
[01:17] <Unit193> Ah, that's why I'm lost.
[01:17] <elfy> nah
[01:17] <elfy> nothing to do with -users
[01:17] <knome> oh..
[01:17] <knome> then i'm lost too :D
[01:18] <elfy> to do with this is one of those things that would be so much better as a link
[01:18] <elfy> that people cannot then go on an on about ad nauseam on any m/l about 
[01:18] <Unit193> I get the idea, concept from forums.
[01:18] <knome> right... yeah
[01:18] <elfy> cos it's not going to change 
[01:18] <knome> fortunately you can always ignore the threads ;)
[01:19] <elfy> Unit193: not really - concept from 53 years 
[01:19] <knome> i mean at least we're giving them the possibility to give their input in a way that's meaningful for us
[01:19] <knome> elfy, i'm sure people have been stubborn before you ;)
[01:19] <elfy> yea - not got an issue with that 
[01:19] <elfy> knome: LOL
[01:19] <knome> so what's the issue?
[01:19] <knome> or is there no issue?
[01:20] <elfy> only that it's an un fixable issue so unltimately pointless to discuss
[01:20] <knome> yeah
[01:20] <elfy> is all :)
[01:20] <knome> huzzah, we have 37 responses
[01:21] <elfy> good
[01:21] <elfy> I've not seen request yet 
[01:21] <knome> what request?
[01:21] <knome> 7 people have told us they want to learn more about contributing
[01:21] <elfy> to the form
[01:21] <knome> weird
[01:22] <knome> i've posted it to both mail lists
[01:22] <elfy> yea - not seen it here yet :D
[01:22] <knome> oh *HERE*
[01:22]  * knome facepalms
[01:23] <elfy> sorry - long day followed by longer evening ...
[01:23] <knome> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2015-February/010630.html
[01:23] <knome> i'm happy that "only" 50% consider themselves power users
[01:23] <elfy> yep 
[01:24] <elfy> not looked at results - just the not being proofread :P
[01:24] <elfy> series ... just for next time :D
[01:24]  * knome shrugs
[01:24] <knome> WHO CARES
[01:24] <knome> :)
[01:24] <elfy> so does elfy 
[01:24] <elfy> shrug that is :;
[01:25] <knome> haha
[01:26] <elfy> oh damnation
[01:26] <knome> what now
[01:28] <elfy> just noticed something - if you fail to add e-mail address and then say you want us to contact you - it doesn't give you a "oops"
[01:29] <knome> the oops is that you didn't pass the IQ test, so you shall not be contacted
[01:29] <knome> more seriously, we might want to fix that for the next survey
[01:29] <elfy> excellent
[01:30] <elfy> needed an out for April the after :D
[01:30] <knome> i don't think it's a huge issue :)
[01:31] <elfy> me neither - but, while it's entirely likely that none will do that - perhaps a step we should sort out next time
[01:33] <knome> yep
[01:33] <knome> and maybe we want to improve the whole contact stuff altogether
[01:33] <elfy> mhm
[01:33] <knome> i don't know how yet...
[04:32] <sidi> https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11095 this bug needs testing from Xubuntu 14.10 users please!
[04:32] <ubottu> bugzilla.xfce.org bug 11095 in General "Desktop Settings no wallpaper choices shown" [Normal,Needinfo]
[10:30] <brainwosh> Noskcaj, xfwm4 4.11.3 adds corner tiling, so bug 1069387 should be fixed too
[10:30] <ubottu> bug 1069387 in Xfwm4 "tiling should also resize to a quarter of the desktop" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1069387
[10:31] <brainwosh> from the release notes:
[10:31] <brainwosh> - Add corner tiling
[10:32] <brainwosh> the upstream report has not been closed yet
[10:35] <brainwosh> also, bug 1030359 should be fixed now (according to the linked upstream report)
[10:35] <ubottu> bug 1030359 in xfwm4 (Ubuntu) "Cairo Dock disappear when changing gtk theme" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1030359
[10:49] <brainwosh> and bug 904958 too
[10:49] <ubottu> bug 904958 in xfwm4 (Ubuntu) "xfwm4: top border still present when window is maximized" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/904958
[10:49] <brainwosh> Noskcaj, ^
[13:01] <brainwosh> ochosi, the var name was changed with https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/commit/84992762a9172c526ae7253a1f2e5d734a2d74ef
[13:01] <brainwosh> should the original names be restored?
[13:05] <brainwosh> I'm experimenting a bit with the window borders, basically following http://sevkeifert.blogspot.de/2014/12/increase-window-border-size-in-xubuntu.html
[14:59] <Unit193> Debian #778470
[14:59] <ubottu> Debian bug 778470 in xscreensaver "xscreensaver: Add support for lighdm "new login" feature." [Minor,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/778470
[15:58] <bluesabre> brainwosh, Noskcaj: xfwm4 4.11.3 uploaded, then saw the tagged bugs posted later, and marked those fixed as well
[16:00] <brainwosh> bluesabre, awesome
[16:00] <brainwosh> so, xfce4-settings next? :)
[16:01] <bluesabre> yup, waiting for ochosi to merge his branch
[16:01] <bluesabre> working on getting a greeter release out today
[16:23] <ochosi> bluesabre: was out until recently, hjudt says the branch is leaky, so i'll have to look again before i can merge
[16:24] <ochosi> brainwosh: the result (thick borders) somehow looks shitty, just look at the border where the toolbar is
[16:24] <ochosi> i'd rather add some inner border
[16:25] <brainwosh> it looks ok to me, but adding extra border space to the top seems to be tricky
[16:25] <ochosi> also, i'm not sure what you're referring to with that greybird commit you linked. the color-pickup was only for the inner border, not the window border
[16:26] <brainwosh> the pointer variable names
[16:26] <ochosi> ah, right, well those are just copies
[16:26] <ochosi> not sure that matters really though
[16:27] <ochosi> i used to just use symlinks
[16:27] <ochosi> but yeah, feel free to submit a merge-request, gotta look at other things now
[16:27] <brainwosh> it does not seem to matter, just noticed it while editing these files :)
[17:23] <dkessel> slickymaster: the call for german translations has already resulted in new translations :) i am currently reviewing them
[17:47] <slickymaster> great dkessel. Thanks
[18:10] <dkessel> ... and we're at 70% :)
[18:27] <slickymaster> Unit193, knome, is https://code.launchpad.net/~unit193/xubuntu-docs/fixes/+merge/249768 because/based on our discussion of last friday?
[18:35] <Unit193> slickymaster: I put it there, it's up to you two to decide if it gets merged.
[18:38] <slickymaster> yeah, I know, but does the MP comes as a consequence of our discussion?
[18:39] <Unit193> Kind of, I was working on the docs and submitting other merge proposals already.
[18:39] <slickymaster> yeah saw those also
[18:40] <slickymaster> can I bother you tomorrow again with the stats on the -docs po files Unit193?
[18:41] <slickymaster> I won't do anything today, it's almost dinner time and the little one still has to take his shower
[18:41] <slickymaster> before dining 
[18:55] <Unit193> slickymaster: Well, not sure what else to tell you.  The po files you get by checking out the branch isn't up to date (easily fixed by merging strings from the pot, but still.)
[19:07] <slickymaster> ok Unit193, talk to you tomorrow
[19:08] <Unit193> Yep!  Good rest.
[19:34] <dupingping> hi guys.
[19:34] <dupingping> how can i join this team?
[19:35] <dupingping> with ubuntu member ship?
[19:39] <ochosi> dupingping: hi
[19:39] <ochosi> you mean the xubuntu team?
[20:10] <dupingping> yes
[20:10] <dupingping> i'll contribute for xubuntu.
[20:10] <dupingping> https://sourceforge.net/projects/ubuntu-dock/files/?source=navbar
[20:11] <dupingping> it's my own project named as ubuntu-dock like as MacOSX's Dock
[20:12] <dupingping> i think that if it's used in xubuntu, xubuntu will be more useful and beautiful.
[20:12] <dupingping> ochosi, u there?
[20:12] <ochosi> do you have a link to the source as well?
[20:13] <dupingping> i did not upload the source yet.
[20:13] <dupingping> i am going to upload the source in to launchpad.net
[20:13] <ochosi> ok
[20:14] <dupingping> are you a xubuntu member or leader?
[20:15] <dupingping> Can i join xubuntu team?
[20:15] <ochosi> i'm the project lead, yeah
[20:15] <dupingping> oh, that's great.
[20:16] <ochosi> membership is granted through contribution around here, not by me saying "yes" or "no"
[20:16] <ochosi> i suggest you keep hanging out here, that's a first step towards joining the team
[20:16] <dupingping> i'll send you my email address, thus we can meet often.
[20:16] <dupingping> yes.
[20:16] <ochosi> no need to send me your email address
[20:17] <ochosi> we communicate mostly on IRC, sometimes on the mailinglist
[20:17] <dupingping> okay, i'll remember your id at here.
[20:17] <dupingping> oh, sir.
[20:17] <dupingping> my time is 4:17 AM
[20:17] <dupingping> your time is
[20:17] <ochosi> no need to "sir" anyone here
[20:17] <dupingping> ic
[20:18] <ochosi> some of us are in europe, some in the US
[20:18] <ochosi> and australia too, iirc
[20:18] <dupingping> i'm in asia
[20:18] <dupingping> :)
[20:18] <Unit193> ochosi: But we don't count those people..
[20:18] <ochosi> Unit193: hehe
[20:20] <dupingping> see you tomorrow, now i'm very tired for develop the ubuntu-dock
[20:20] <dupingping> and very late time.
[20:20] <dupingping> bye
[20:25] <brainwosh> ochosi, should we tell him about plank and co? :)
=== ranu1 is now known as ranu
[20:47] <Unit193> Alright, I'm going with LP isn't importing translations from LP...
[20:47] <Unit193> Why are translations such a pain?!
[20:49] <Unit193> http://paste.openstack.org/show/pbdYVOf4cXm84GKaVa9F/ downloaded an export from LP, that's the diff between the one in the repo and..
[22:27] <Unit193> And in case people didn't notice, the vivid ISOs went the same way as 14.04.2.
[22:27] <knome> Unit193, heh.
[22:30] <bluesabre> hm?
[22:31] <Unit193> vivid has several unity packages (control center, etc), unity-greeter in addition to gtk, qt libs, and even more fun: both xscreensaver and gnome-screensaver.  As if locking wasn't complicated enough. :P
[22:31] <Unit193> http://paste.openstack.org/show/7HZrBRWkuUeNOVixOTdU for a look, and I can strip versions to get a cleaner look.
[22:33] <bluesabre> won't that be resolved with the blacklist definitions in the updated seed?
[22:34] <Unit193> Nope.  Their breakage, hopefully their fix.
[22:34] <Unit193> Ah yes, another power manager too!  Just what we always needed!
[22:35] <bluesabre> yessss
[22:36] <Unit193> Heh, do they plan to land these type of changes right before FF? :P
[22:41] <bluesabre> Seems almost typical
[22:43] <Unit193> Yes, yes it does.
[22:43] <Unit193> elfy: Might not want to sync images, have the 14.04.2 problem in vivid now.
[22:53] <flexiondotorg_> bluesabre, Hi
[22:54] <bluesabre> flexiondotorg_: hey
[22:54] <flexiondotorg_> bluesabre, Does XFCE or Xubuntu use gsettings at all?
[22:54] <bluesabre> yes
[22:54] <flexiondotorg_> I've noticed some odd behaviour.
[22:54] <flexiondotorg_> Confirmed with Fedora rawhide devs.
[22:55] <flexiondotorg_> glib2 2.43.3 in 15.04 is not applying all gsettings values straight away.
[22:55] <flexiondotorg_> For example, in MATE changing a theme not everything is applied until log out/in.
[22:56] <flexiondotorg_> Or change sound theme settings are not activated directly, requires a log out/it.
[22:56] <flexiondotorg_> bluesabre, elfy Can you confirm that gsettings are, or are not, working correctly in Xubuntu 15.04.
[22:56] <flexiondotorg_> Fedora rawhide suspect glib2 breakage or change in behaviour.
[22:57] <bluesabre> one sec
[22:57] <Unit193> bluesabre: Got anything you need assist with?
[22:58] <bluesabre> flexiondotorg_: it seems to be working correctly here
[22:58] <flexiondotorg_> So gsettings key/value pairs are working. Other are not.
[22:59] <bluesabre> xfconf, gsettings both work currently with today's daily
[23:00] <bluesabre> Unit193: want to package light-locker in -staging for https://github.com/the-cavalry/light-locker/tree/lid-closed (probably a basic patch on top for now)
[23:00]  * bluesabre is working prepping the lightdm-gtk-greeter release
[23:00] <bluesabre> on
[23:09] <flexiondotorg_> bluesabre, lightdm-gtk-settings 😃
[23:10] <bluesabre> that comes next :)
[23:10] <flexiondotorg_> bluesabre, This commit looks suspicious to me - https://git.gnome.org/browse/glib/commit/?id=8ff5668a458344da22d30491e3ce726d861b3619
[23:10] <Unit193> Sounds like fun, bluesabre.  Need it today?
[23:10] <bluesabre> Unit193: no hurry
[23:10] <bluesabre> My priorities now are the greeter and mugshot/catfish updates before thursday
[23:11] <Unit193> Great, the weather is up to -3F, might be time for a walk this evening.
[23:11] <Unit193> Just remember, ping me if you need me.
[23:11] <bluesabre> Unit193: ofc, thanks - also need to endorse your packageset app
[23:13] <knome> mm