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| nopf | hm, bzr branch tells me Errno 1 Operation not permitted. that's helpful, not. is it because of the fat filesystem?? | 22:26 |
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| mgrandi | can you post a pastebin of the bzr.log file? | 22:27 |
| nopf | if i had found it, i had looked into it :) lemme find it... | 22:27 |
| mgrandi | bzr version tells you where its located | 22:28 |
| nopf | mgrandi: thanks. ok. it's the symlink problem again :] | 22:29 |
| mgrandi | OperationNotPermitted seems like a operating system thrown error, and those are infamously terrible | 22:29 |
| nopf | does this mean i cannot for backup purposes push to a fat fs? | 22:29 |
| mgrandi | what type of fat? fat16, fat32, exfat? | 22:30 |
| mgrandi | I believe i have a repo on a fat32 thumbdrive somewhere | 22:30 |
| nopf | fat-without-symlinks, they are all that bad :) | 22:30 |
| mgrandi | so this is a repo with symlinks? | 22:30 |
| nopf | yeah, you have repos without symlink | 22:30 |
| nopf | right | 22:30 |
| mgrandi | yeahhhhh thats a long standing bug in bazaar...and pretty much every dvcs | 22:30 |
| mgrandi | and is complicated to fix >.> | 22:31 |
| nopf | i did not think of this. i thought problems would only aries if i do a checkout there, not with teh .bzr itself... | 22:31 |
| mgrandi | you might have to remove the symlink from the current revision to be able to checkout on windows / fat | 22:31 |
| mgrandi | I dunno how you even would fix it, my idea was to have a 'symlink.txt' file on filesystems/OSes that don't support it, but then what happens if you modify it and whatnot... | 22:32 |
| nopf | nope. no compromises. i will not encourage my users to use win. so i'll create a ext2 image file there on the stick and loop mount for now | 22:32 |
| mgrandi | i believe the code will attempt to do a symlink if its anything but win32 | 22:33 |
| mgrandi | so im guessing you are on linux something, so it tries to create a symlink but fails cause the OS says the filesystem doesn't support it | 22:33 |
| nopf | right. this is a terrible world in this respect. only topped by encodings, xml, eol conventions and closed source software | 22:34 |
| mgrandi | yep haha | 22:35 |
| mgrandi | Windows _does_ support symlinks | 22:35 |
| mgrandi | but the problem is, by default a user does not have privs to create a 'junction' (win32 symlink) | 22:36 |
| mgrandi | so even if it did support it, it would fail half the time | 22:36 |
| nopf | well, windows support also internationalized 'Documents' and such dirs. which ubuntu or gnome or whoever are apt in adapting up to the same failures lately | 22:37 |
| mgrandi | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bzr/+bug/81689 | 22:38 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 81689 in Bazaar "Branches with symlinks can't be checked out on Windows" [High,In progress] | 22:38 |
| mgrandi | is the bug report on it | 22:38 |
| nopf | yeah, i know, i stumbled onto this years ago. so many years ago that i already forgot again | 22:39 |
| mgrandi | i think git and hg just...don't even attempt to see that its a symlink and just version the file that the symlink points too | 22:39 |
| mgrandi | bazaar is trying to be too smart here =P | 22:39 |
| nopf | btw, '--no-tree' is what i wanted. for some reason i had assumed it was the default, which is obviously not true. so i got what i want for now. thanks again | 22:40 |
| mgrandi | you are welcome =) | 22:40 |
| mgrandi | yeah --no-tree just makes it so its like..on a server, where you just have a .bzr folder but no checkout (no reason to have one if its just a remote repo) | 22:40 |
| nopf | so windows machines at least can be servers for arbitrary repos, just not for developper machines. what a world | 22:41 |
| mgrandi | yep =) | 22:43 |
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