[06:13] <lordievader> Good morning.
[12:13] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[16:07] <elfy> hi PaulW2U
[20:51] <feliwir> hey, my ubuntu 15.04 gets stuck at "creating ext4 partition"
[20:52] <feliwir> help is appreciated
[20:52] <feliwir> (during installation)
[20:53] <feliwir> i also made sure my ssd doesn't have any bad sectors
[20:53] <BluesKaj> feliwir:  are you getting a notification that it needs formatting for example ?
[20:53] <feliwir> no, it just doesn't make any progress anymore
[20:54] <feliwir> could it be due to me having 2 ssd's and one hdd?
[20:54] <BluesKaj> fel which partitioning mode did you cjhoose , guid4e3d, auto or manual ?
[20:55] <BluesKaj> oops guided
[20:55] <BluesKaj> feliwir: ^
[20:55] <feliwir> i used auto on my old ssd with ubuntu 14.04 (which was broken thats why i couldnt upgrade it^=
[20:56] <feliwir> but if it helps i can try to format it before i try installation
[20:56] <elfy> I had some issues like that a while back, did the partitions before installing with gparted
[20:56] <elfy> heh :)
[20:56] <BluesKaj> have you manually partitioned hdds/sdds in the past ? if so it's best to use that
[20:56] <feliwir> well, i still have the old partitions
[20:56] <feliwir> back from ubuntu 14.10,
[20:56] <feliwir> no, i've never done that before to be honest :D
[20:57] <elfy> try that then
[20:57] <feliwir> right now i am on my liveusb and have gparted opened, no idea what to do with it though
[20:57] <BluesKaj> 'then you have to format them as well when choosing ext4
[20:58] <elfy> well feliwir if you've never done it before - make sure you do it right ;)
[20:58] <feliwir> elfy: haha very good advice
[20:58] <elfy> measure twice - cut once ...
[20:59] <elfy> you might even have where it 'tried' to create one
[20:59] <feliwir> i am not quite sure why i need to make new partitions at all :( i thought the old ones would be ok
[21:00] <elfy> and you're using 'Something Else' as the option ?
[21:01] <elfy> and just marked the old one for formatting and as / ?
[21:01] <BluesKaj> yes , they are you just need to reformat them to get rid of the data
[21:02] <feliwir> http://i.imgur.com/jExbYAp.png
[21:02] <feliwir> where would i reformat anything here?
[21:03] <elfy> I would be extremely careful about reformatting that partition unless you are completely positive that 68Gb used is all old and unused
[21:04] <BluesKaj> thw yellow portion of the partition is the data from the old install , it needs to be erased by formatting to nsetup the partition for installation of the new OS
[21:05] <BluesKaj> unless you want to rpreserve the dat from the old install
[21:06] <BluesKaj> preserve the data , that is
[21:07] <feliwir> okay
[21:07] <feliwir> but where to put my / ?
[21:09] <elfy> right - so you're going to be resizing it one way or the other
[21:09] <BluesKaj> feliwir:  the whole partition will be / if you choose not to create a /home  as well
[21:09] <feliwir> http://i.imgur.com/D9F5nkI.png?1
[21:09] <feliwir> it says it has no root
[21:10] <elfy> feliwir: if you do that - it WILL remove any data in that partition - all 68Gb
[21:10] <feliwir> no problem
[21:10] <feliwir> all my data is on my hdd
[21:11] <feliwir> do i need to set a mount point for swap aswell?
[21:11] <elfy> no swap will deal with itself
[21:12] <feliwir> alright, can i ignore the warning?
[21:12] <elfy> what warning?
[21:12] <feliwir> http://i.imgur.com/eIS72fM.png?1
[21:12] <k1l_> what? no you need to direct the swap partition to be used as swap
[21:13] <k1l_> if you dont to it, it will not use swap
[21:13] <BluesKaj> the swap warning is most likely di=ue swap being turned off
[21:13] <elfy> k1l_: no - I have never in the last 3 years once told the installer anything about swap
[21:13] <jtaylor> k1l_: you just whatever swap is available
[21:13] <feliwir> it says: use as swap anyways
[21:14] <elfy> that warning is what I normally see
[21:14] <k1l_> elfy: i dont use swap since 3 years or so.
[21:14] <elfy> )
[21:14] <elfy> :)
[21:14] <elfy> I don't use it - I just have some for Justin Case
[21:14] <k1l_> the live cd uses any swap it finds. i am not sure about the install.
[21:14] <feliwir> starting now
[21:15] <feliwir> it seems to reenter the old step -.-
[21:15] <elfy> k1l_: in my experience - live uses what it finds, then uses same for the install
[21:15] <feliwir> nvm it makes progress :D
[21:18] <feliwir> how long is that step supposed to take?
[21:18] <BluesKaj> feliwir: are you using gparted atm ?
[21:18] <feliwir> no, i am installing atm :D
[21:19] <feliwir> but i used the manual way
[21:19] <feliwir> and told it to format ext4
[21:19] <feliwir> got stuck again though -.- : http://i.imgur.com/4bAnXr0.jpg?1
[21:19] <BluesKaj> , did you choose the partition as the / moiuntpoint
[21:20] <feliwir> ye
[21:20] <feliwir> you saw the screenshot
[21:20] <feliwir> http://i.imgur.com/D9F5nkI.png?1
[21:20] <elfy> feliwir: the 2nd to last screenie is the slideshow :)
[21:21] <feliwir> :D
[21:21] <feliwir> well, time for a new try i guess -.-
[21:22] <elfy> if the installer keeps hanging on that stage - which is what I had a while back, just do the format in gparted
[21:22] <feliwir> okay
[21:22] <elfy> then start up the installer - choose the same 'Something Else' option
[21:22] <elfy> then when you set it up - just do the mountpoint - don't format it again
[21:23] <elfy> it'll say you're not formatting - ignore that warning
[21:23] <feliwir> The driver descriptor says the physical block size is 2048 bytes, but Linux says it is 512 bytes.
[21:23] <feliwir> gparted keeps telling me that warning^^
[21:23] <elfy> but I'm not that comfortable saying format a drive that's half full ;)
[21:23] <BluesKaj> feliwir:  don't worry about that either
[21:24] <feliwir> how can i stop the setup from always going back to its old step?
[21:24] <elfy> you need to cancle the install
[21:25] <elfy> then start gparted from whatever menu your version uses
[21:25] <feliwir> yeah i just did that
[21:25] <feliwir> but i am not sure if installation will go back to the same step
[21:25] <elfy> oic - no it will start from the beginning again
[21:25] <feliwir> bootloader will go into sdc or sdc1 ?
[21:26] <elfy> wherever you tell it to when doing Something Else - not sure
[21:27] <k1l_> are you sure the ssd is working properly?
[21:27] <elfy> not going to be much help there - as I put them in different places here ;)
[21:27] <feliwir> yay
[21:27] <feliwir> Almost finished copying file it says
[21:27] <feliwir> i just started :D
[21:28] <feliwir> the ssd is working properly 100% SMART tells me that
[21:29] <jtaylor> does smart even have any meaning for ssds?
[21:29] <BluesKaj> feliwir in the future use gparted to create a / partition around 15 G at the beginning of the drive, you st the mountpoint as / when installing, then the remainder of the partition can used for a /home partition that contains all your data and config files etc , so reinstalling to /  only will then take about 20 mins and you /home mountpoint just needs to be set during installation thus preserving all your previous data
[21:30] <feliwir> BluesKaj: alright thanks. The thing is that my previous ubuntu installation was really broken and i wanted to get rid of everything :)
[21:31] <feliwir> installation finished
[21:31] <feliwir> time to restart
[21:31] <feliwir> i'll reconnect and tell if it worked
[21:31] <jtaylor> I wish the installer was somewhat smarter about swap size
[21:31] <jtaylor> did a server install today, gave it 70GB for root, ended up with 64GB swap ._.
[21:32] <jtaylor> was to be expected as it has that much ram, but still kind of dumb for a server
[21:32] <jtaylor> given the 70gb limit
[21:32] <BluesKaj> feliwir:  understood , but when you find a stable install but just want to upgrade to next version keep the idea in mind
[21:33] <feliwir_> DAT BOOTTIME
[21:33] <feliwir_> amazing :D thanks guys
[21:33] <feliwir_> is grub starting by default?
[21:34] <BluesKaj> jtaylor:  that's waaay too much , you'll never use any of it if you have more than 16GRAM
[21:34] <jtaylor> I know
[21:35] <jtaylor> luckily shrinking is simple for swap + lvm
[21:35] <BluesKaj> well that's it for today , my old eyes are getting tired
[21:35] <BluesKaj> later gents
[21:35] <jtaylor> after installaton I had some 200mb left in root :)
[21:37] <elfy> jtaylor: surely that's enough :)
[21:44] <feliwir> how to make new tabs in the ubuntu 15.04 terminal?
[21:44] <jtaylor> not ctrl+shift+t  anymore?
[21:45] <feliwir> ah that does work, i used to use rightclick :P