| pitti | Good morning | 06:12 |
|---|---|---|
| larsu | morning pitti! Wie geht's? | 06:14 |
| pitti | larsu: prima, danke! und Dir? | 06:15 |
| larsu | auch. Nur müde | 06:15 |
| pitti | larsu: war zur Abwechslung mal ein Wochenende zuhause, sehr entspannt | 06:15 |
| larsu | ha schön! | 06:15 |
| pitti | larsu: nicht jeder Hacker steht um 7 auf... | 06:15 |
| larsu | pitti: stimmt, aber manche anscheinend schon ;) | 06:16 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 07:45 |
| mlankhorst | morning | 08:02 |
| seb128 | hey mlankhorst | 08:07 |
| mlankhorst | what's up? | 08:09 |
| seb128 | it's monday! | 08:12 |
| mlankhorst | indeed it is! | 08:13 |
| seb128 | xnox, pitti, hey, what's the status of https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/system-service/python3/+merge/192805 , seems like it was mostly approved and the review comment got addressed since? should that land? (and what about https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/system-service/pac-support/+merge/243904 then?) | 08:36 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128, hey mlankhorst | 08:36 |
| seb128 | pitti, hey, wie gehts? had a good w.e? | 08:37 |
| pitti | seb128: yeah, at home for a change -- very relaxing! :-) and your's? enjoyed valentine's day? | 08:38 |
| pitti | seb128: py3 merge> ah, I didn't see the followup comment | 08:39 |
| seb128 | pitti, indeed I did! we had a nice w.e, went to saw a choir on friday, to the theatre on saturday and relaxed/enjoyed the sunny weather yesterday | 08:39 |
| seb128 | to see* | 08:40 |
| Noskcaj | thanks for the sponsoring seb128 | 08:41 |
| seb128 | Noskcaj, hey, yw! | 08:41 |
| Noskcaj | Is there any reason we don't have yelp 3.14 yet? Did it break something? | 08:42 |
| happyaron | can someone sponsor this? https://code.launchpad.net/~nobuto/ubuntu/vivid/unzip/fallback-encoding/+merge/249644 | 08:43 |
| happyaron | or should I subscribe sponsors team? | 08:43 |
| seb128 | happyaron, it's already in the sponsoring queue | 08:48 |
| seb128 | happyaron, I'm unsure about the change, why isn't that done upstream and/or in Debian? | 08:49 |
| happyaron | seb128: upstream want's universe solution instead of locale hack, for Debian I'd like to wait until freeze is over | 08:50 |
| seb128 | why? | 08:50 |
| happyaron | for which? | 08:51 |
| seb128 | things can be forwarded to the BTS/discussed during the freeze | 08:51 |
| seb128 | Debian | 08:51 |
| happyaron | yes, but not done yet | 08:51 |
| seb128 | right, it should ;-) | 08:51 |
| seb128 | comment on the mp saying we at least need a bug report explaining the issue | 08:51 |
| seb128 | so we have references on why we carry the change | 08:51 |
| happyaron | ok | 08:52 |
| willcooke | o/ | 09:03 |
| Laney | morning! | 09:05 |
| happyaron | seb128: bug 1422290 | 09:06 |
| ubot5 | bug 1422290 in unzip (Ubuntu) "Default charsets handling for Windows archives in CJKV+th locale" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1422290 | 09:06 |
| happyaron | morning, :) | 09:06 |
| seb128 | happyaron, thanks | 09:07 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke, Laney, how is u.k this morning? | 09:07 |
| Laney | very wet | 09:07 |
| seb128 | of course ;-) | 09:07 |
| Laney | seb128: good weekend? | 09:09 |
| seb128 | excellent, thanks! | 09:13 |
| willcooke | :) | 09:13 |
| seb128 | went to see a choir and to the theatre, enjoyed a sunny sunday as well | 09:13 |
| seb128 | Laney, what about you? good w.e? | 09:17 |
| Laney | yep, had friends over for dinner on saturday & went climbing / played games yesterday | 09:20 |
| Laney | relaxing! | 09:20 |
| seb128 | nice | 09:27 |
| seb128 | Laney, pitti, can one of you sponsor http://paste.ubuntu.com/10253033/ for me? | 09:27 |
| seb128 | I never receive an update on the Debian rt to replace my key, I wonder if they did it without getting back to me or if that's still waiting? | 09:28 |
| pitti | seb128: can do, yes | 09:29 |
| seb128 | pitti, danke | 09:29 |
| Laney | ah, faster than me | 09:29 |
| pitti | seb128: hm, when I got my key replaced I did get a notification | 09:29 |
| Laney | I'm being killed by fstrim atm | 09:30 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, svn head has another change, I'll merge | 09:31 |
| seb128 | ups | 09:31 |
| seb128 | pitti, sorry about that | 09:31 |
| pitti | no worries | 09:31 |
| seb128 | pitti, my most recent email on the rt to change key was gunnar asking if you could send again your email but inlined, did you do that? | 09:31 |
| seb128 | inline-signed rather | 09:32 |
| pitti | yes, I thought I did | 09:32 |
| seb128 | hum, k | 09:32 |
| pitti | seb128: I take the liberty to drop the wrong commas from the manpage | 09:32 |
| seb128 | pitti, wfm :-) | 09:32 |
| pitti | seb128: given Debian's freeze, is that something you want to see in unstable now, i. e. do you want to send an unblock request? | 09:33 |
| pitti | seb128: or sohuld I upload it to exp, or only an svn snapshot to vivid? | 09:33 |
| seb128 | pitti, no need to be in unstable no, it's just in the ubuntu sponsoring queue and I wanted to get it out of it | 09:35 |
| seb128 | so exp sync or I can upload to vivid if you want | 09:35 |
| seb128 | then we can sync on the next debian upload | 09:35 |
| pitti | seb128: I'd upload it as 0.7.6-2svn1 | 09:36 |
| pitti | seb128: svn commit running for 2 mins now (alioth is clogged..) | 09:36 |
| seb128 | pitti, feel free, or let me know if you want me to do that | 09:36 |
| pitti | seb128: I'll do it, after svn commit ever finishes.. | 09:39 |
| seb128 | pitti, danke, I nudged on the debian rt to know if I need to do anything for the key replacement still | 09:40 |
| Laney | pitti: let me know if/when you have time to debug suspend - I've tried pm-suspend 20 times or so without failure now so seems this method is working properly | 09:43 |
| === hikiko-lpt is now known as hikiko | ||
| pitti | Laney: ah, interesting; do you have anything in /var/cache/pm-utils? | 09:47 |
| pitti | like a last_known_working.quirkdb | 09:47 |
| Laney | pitti: nothing there, empty directory | 09:50 |
| Laney | I have a pm-suspend.log if that's interesting to you? | 09:50 |
| pitti | Laney: possibly; but I suppose one needs to enable debugging for it to actually say which quirks it does | 09:51 |
| Laney | is PM_DEBUG=true pm-suspend enough? | 09:51 |
| pitti | Laney: could be (I don't remember any more, sorry) | 09:51 |
| Laney | nod, let's see | 09:52 |
| pitti | /usr/share/doc/pm-utils/README.debugging: PM_DEBUG="true" to have the script log each action as it performs it. | 09:52 |
| pitti | sounds good :) | 09:52 |
| Laney | one second | 09:52 |
| pitti | Laney: so you just did "sudo pm-suspend" 20 times? | 09:52 |
| pitti | Laney: i. e. without all the indicator/desktop integration/screen lock/etc. overhead? | 09:53 |
| Laney | pitti: indeed; I think those call suspend via logind now? | 09:58 |
| Laney | http://paste.ubuntu.com/10253345/ <- don't see any quirks there | 09:58 |
| pitti | Laney: right; could you do the same loop with just "echo mem | sudo tee /sys/power/state"? | 09:59 |
| Laney | ack | 10:00 |
| Laney | is this poking the kernel to suspend directly? | 10:00 |
| pitti | Laney: yes | 10:04 |
| pitti | Laney: that's essentially what pm-utils and logind do | 10:04 |
| pitti | but without the desktop overhead | 10:04 |
| pitti | Laney: I'm interested in whether any of the other pm-utils hooks make a difference here, as it's not the quirks | 10:04 |
| Laney | pitti: ok, 20 times it worked | 10:04 |
| pitti | seb128: libnotify uploaded | 10:04 |
| seb128 | pitti, danke! | 10:04 |
| flexiondotorg_ | Morning | 10:05 |
| flexiondotorg_ | I noticed that gsettings is misbehaving, to some extent in 15.04. | 10:05 |
| flexiondotorg_ | This is confirmed by the MATE maintainers in Fedora rawhide also. | 10:06 |
| flexiondotorg_ | rawhide is glib2 2.43.4 and vivid is glib2 2.43.3 | 10:06 |
| flexiondotorg_ | Editing some gsettings key/value pairs in dconf-editor doesn't make the change immediately. Requires a log in/out for changes to be active. | 10:07 |
| flexiondotorg_ | In MATE, some control center applets don't make a change until a log in/out. Such as Appearance and Sound themes, where changes are not applied directly. | 10:08 |
| seb128 | flexiondotorg_, thanks, that's likely buggy code impacted by a glib change | 10:09 |
| flexiondotorg_ | seb128, One sec... | 10:09 |
| seb128 | flexiondotorg_, https://git.gnome.org/browse/glib/commit/?id=8ff5668a458344da22d30491e3ce726d861b3619 | 10:10 |
| flexiondotorg_ | seb128, I thought this commit looked "interesting" - https://git.gnome.org/browse/glib/commit/?id=8ff5668a458344da22d30491e3ce726d861b3619 | 10:10 |
| seb128 | indeed | 10:10 |
| flexiondotorg_ | 😁 | 10:10 |
| flexiondotorg_ | Yes. I was reading the commit log last night. | 10:10 |
| seb128 | flexiondotorg_, typically your fix looks like https://git.gnome.org/browse/nautilus/commit/?id=c84f4e0039353e3846afda132a53d96fcadc0715 | 10:10 |
| seb128 | you need to connect first and then read the value | 10:10 |
| seb128 | some code does it the other way around | 10:11 |
| flexiondotorg_ | seb128, So, this is not a regression is glib2? | 10:11 |
| seb128 | no | 10:11 |
| flexiondotorg_ | seb128, This is a change to enforce the intended use? | 10:12 |
| seb128 | it unfortunately making code that seemed to work stop working though | 10:12 |
| flexiondotorg_ | seb128, Thanks. Useful feedback. | 10:12 |
| seb128 | but the code was wrong before, it just happened to work | 10:12 |
| seb128 | yw | 10:12 |
| flexiondotorg_ | I'll progress this upstream. | 10:12 |
| flexiondotorg_ | MATE upstream that is. | 10:12 |
| seb128 | the goal was not to enforce the intended use just for the sake of doing that | 10:12 |
| seb128 | but rather to fix a performance issue, explained in the glib commit you pointed | 10:13 |
| seb128 | the side effect is that it does less work than before and make incorrect code stop working | 10:13 |
| seb128 | pitti, debian rt guys said you didn't send the inline-signed email, fwded you their reply | 10:15 |
| seb128 | in fact replying and Ccing you if you prefer? | 10:15 |
| seb128 | so maybe you can resend it, in case it got lost? | 10:15 |
| pitti | seb128: ack | 10:18 |
| pitti | seb128: sent again (gosh, complicated!) | 10:20 |
| seb128 | pitti, danke! | 10:23 |
| marga | xnox, your latest gnome-keyring upload is giving me pain again. | 10:29 |
| marga | xnox, do I need to change the upstart override that I had created before? (/etc/xdg/gnome-keyring.override containing manual) | 10:30 |
| xnox | marga: go on. | 10:30 |
| xnox | marga: yes. | 10:31 |
| marga | xnox, how do I stop gnome-keyring from getting the ssh sock? | 10:31 |
| xnox | marga: instructions in the bug report. To kill gnome-keyring ssh agent, you can - GUI Open Startup Applications untick gnome-keyring-ssh | 10:31 |
| marga | heh, I want this globally, GUI is not a good solution... | 10:32 |
| xnox | marga: or use any of the xdg paths to override gnome-keyring-ssh (like in 12.04 and before) | 10:32 |
| xnox | which are in /etc | 10:32 |
| xnox | marga: or the name of the ovveride is now gnome-keyring-ssh.override | 10:32 |
| xnox | (upstart jobs') | 10:32 |
| marga | Ah | 10:32 |
| marga | So, instead of /etc/xdg/upstart/gnome-keyring.override containing manual, it should be /etc/xdg/upstart/gnome-keyring-ssh.override containing manual? | 10:33 |
| xnox | marga: you probably want to override gnome-keyring-gpg agent as well. Then one can use GPG subkeys on e.g. yubikey u2f neo ;-) | 10:33 |
| xnox | marga: yes. | 10:33 |
| marga | I only care about ssh | 10:33 |
| marga | Ok, thanks. | 10:33 |
| xnox | marga: instead of upstartish override, the desktopish override is supported as well now. `find /usr/share -name gnome-keyring-ssh.desktop`, cp that to /etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-keyring-ssh.desktop, echo X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled=false >> /etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-keyring-ssh.desktop ..... | 10:35 |
| xnox | marga: that would be very forward looking, e.g. if we switch to systemd for user sessions in 16.04 the xdg/autostart override method will persist. | 10:36 |
| marga | ok | 10:36 |
| marga | I'll look into that then, thanks | 10:36 |
| marga | In the past, we used to actually remove that file from /etc/xdg/autostart | 10:37 |
| xnox | marga: that's the "system-wide" way to disable xdg-autostart files (and is the same action that startup applications thing does, but on user-level, into ~/.config/autostart) | 10:37 |
| xnox | marga: good point. | 10:38 |
| xnox | marga: in the upstart job, i didn't check for presence of the /etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-keyring-ssh.desktop, but rather for the "X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled=false" inside it. | 10:39 |
| === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr | ||
| marga | Right, I understand but it's a bit cumbersome that this keeps changing... | 10:40 |
| xnox | marga: another sru, but now to be compatible with good old ways to kill gnome-keyring-ssh? | 10:40 |
| marga | Anyway, I'll fix it, it's not such a big deal. | 10:40 |
| xnox | such that removal of /etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-keyring-ssh.desktop works once again ?! =))))) | 10:40 |
| xnox | marga: if only you would have told me that months ago =) | 10:40 |
| marga | heh :) | 10:40 |
| marga | You think it will work like that for systemd? | 10:41 |
| marga | Instead of removing files from /etc/xdg/autostart, we will modify them to say Autostart-enabled=false? | 10:41 |
| marga | (I have no idea how systemd works :) | 10:41 |
| xnox | yes. X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled=false is the best one - it will work for systemd, upstart, gnome-desktop, and all the other alternatives (e.g. forked mints, cinnamons, etc) | 10:42 |
| marga | ok, thanks again. | 10:42 |
| xnox | marga: systemd --user is not that capable at the moment, the plan will be similar to how systemd support init.d scripts. There will be a binary that will parse .desktop files in autostart paths, and generate systemd units to run. | 10:43 |
| xnox | there is code on github to do that already, which was part of demos that my current manager did back in the moblin/meego days | 10:43 |
| Laney | pitti: suspended 20 times using the logind dbus call... | 11:54 |
| Laney | ...maybe it's fixed | 11:54 |
| pitti | Laney: hm, my gut feeling is rather that the bits around it (screen saver, etc.) change this | 11:54 |
| pitti | Laney: unless it was fixed in the kernel itself; I kinda hoped it would turn up with the mem > /sys/power/state test | 11:55 |
| larsu | pitti: still not seeing any entries in the journal unless I'm root (or in the systemd-journal group). Is there a bug tracking tha issue? | 11:55 |
| larsu | *that | 11:55 |
| Laney | last thing is to try with an actual lid close | 11:55 |
| pitti | larsu: debian bug 771980 | 11:56 |
| ubot5 | Debian bug 771980 in systemd "systemd: /run/log/journal is not readable by the adm group" [Minor,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/771980 | 11:56 |
| larsu | pitti: thanks1 | 11:56 |
| pitti | larsu: it's fixed in upstream master (i. e. 219), but as that probably won't get released this week, I'll add a little hack to it (easier than backporting the large patches for generic ACL support in tmpfiles) | 11:56 |
| larsu | pitti: it's not urgent. I just wanted to know the status. I'm fine with adding myself to systemd-journal for now | 11:57 |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch | ||
| Laney | hmm | 12:00 |
| Laney | now I'm in some differently borked state where lid suspend doesn't suspend at all (screen stays on) | 12:00 |
| Laney | ...and after I say that, it works again /o\ | 12:01 |
| pitti | some inhibitor? (systemd-inhibit) | 12:06 |
| Laney | Just looks like normal stuff | 12:07 |
| Laney | maybe there's a timeout or so preventing you suspending again too fast | 12:07 |
| Laney | or one of these inhibitors does that | 12:08 |
| Laney | anyway I've lid closed 15 times now without error | 12:08 |
| davmor2 | Laney: that or it just hates you ;) | 12:08 |
| Laney | of course the system knows I'm trying to reproduce a bug and I'm not putting the laptop in my bag for a few hours, so it would work. :) | 12:08 |
| Laney | davmor2: I feel like a QA engineer atm ;-) | 12:09 |
| davmor2 | Laney: Welcome to our world of machines hating you :) | 12:10 |
| mitya57 | #endmeeting | 12:16 |
| * Laney peers at mitya57 | 12:17 | |
| Laney | are we still meeting? | 12:18 |
| mitya57 | I just thought that having "Desktop Weekly Meeting 2015-02-10 | Current topic: endmeeting" in topic is not sane | 12:18 |
| Laney | haha | 12:18 |
| Laney | willcooke: care to #endmeeting ? | 12:18 |
| willcooke | #endmeeting | 12:20 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Mon Feb 16 12:20:17 2015 UTC. | 12:20 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2015/ubuntu-desktop.2015-02-10-15.32.moin.txt | 12:20 |
| willcooke | oops | 12:20 |
| larsu | Laney: we decided not to take gtk 3.16, right? Can you please downgrade the one in the destkop ppa? | 12:23 |
| Laney | larsu: I deleted it from there | 12:23 |
| * larsu is confused | 12:23 | |
| larsu | Laney: thanks anyway | 12:23 |
| Laney | you'll have to manually downgrade though, apt won't do that for you | 12:23 |
| larsu | I thought I did... but got 3.16 again in the last upgrade | 12:23 |
| * larsu could have checked... | 12:24 | |
| Laney | apt-cache policy libgtk-3-0 ? | 12:24 |
| larsu | ya, that shows 3.16 | 12:25 |
| Laney | it should show you where it comes from | 12:25 |
| Laney | in the "Version table:" | 12:26 |
| larsu | right, /var/lib/dpkg/status | 12:26 |
| larsu | so ... local? | 12:26 |
| Laney | so apt doesn't know about any sources which have it any more ... | 12:26 |
| Laney | try to downgrade it and see if Candidate: is still 3.15 after that | 12:27 |
| larsu | ugh, wants to uninstall all the things | 12:29 |
| larsu | I guess in addition to -dbg, -dev, -common, -bin I also need to downgrade gail? | 12:30 |
| Laney | ya you probably have to add libgtk-3-bin libgtk-3-common (at least) too | 12:30 |
| larsu | still not enough | 12:30 |
| Laney | add the name of one of the packages it wants to remove (possibly repeatedly) and you'll get to the problem after a few iterations | 12:31 |
| larsu | all of them? | 12:31 |
| larsu | it's ~80 packages | 12:31 |
| Laney | (that, or use aptitude and say 'no' until it gives you just the downgrades) | 12:31 |
| Laney | just one should be enough | 12:31 |
| larsu | Laney: ah thanks (was missing gir) | 12:32 |
| larsu | neat trick | 12:32 |
| Laney | it's "please keep this installed" | 12:33 |
| Laney | then apt says "umm, I can't, because of this" | 12:34 |
| larsu | right | 12:34 |
| larsu | makes sense | 12:34 |
| seb128 | hum, new qt landed | 13:02 |
| seb128 | Laney, you still plan to restore a working storage? I didn't look at what Mirv uploaded yet but I think it's incomplete | 13:02 |
| Laney | bleh | 13:02 |
| Laney | I think he was going to turn off the page | 13:03 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch | ||
| Laney | let me look, might be best to copy in the function or some of it for now :/ | 13:11 |
| flexiondotorg_ | seb128, Regarding https://git.gnome.org/browse/glib/commit/?id=8ff5668a458344da22d30491e3ce726d861b3619 | 13:14 |
| flexiondotorg_ | I see alot of python2 applications using Gio.Settings that are going to be affected. | 13:15 |
| larsu | flexiondotorg_: and all of them have a bug that is very easy to fix | 13:16 |
| flexiondotorg_ | larsu, I would say they all have a regression that is fixable. | 13:20 |
| flexiondotorg_ | An easy fix, man hundreds of times, is not so easy though. | 13:20 |
| flexiondotorg_ | *many | 13:20 |
| larsu | hundreds of times? | 13:21 |
| larsu | can you point me too all of those apps? | 13:22 |
| flexiondotorg_ | No, not all. I haven't review everything available. I'm just trying to access the scope of the issue. | 13:23 |
| larsu | how can you know that it's 100s of apps then? | 13:23 |
| larsu | and like I said, those apps have a legitimate bug which is now surfacing because of the gsettings change | 13:24 |
| flexiondotorg_ | Because of cultural practices. | 13:24 |
| larsu | cultural practices? | 13:24 |
| flexiondotorg_ | larsu, I am not disagreeing. I understand that previously stuff worked even though it was incorrectly implemented. | 13:25 |
| Mirv | Laney: the page is off now in the archive version, but with your wip branch integrated so that the storage line is there with the free space shown | 13:58 |
| Mirv | I've fake-synced to trunk so that train continues to work, but I've not pushed the actual changes (= your work-in-progress branch with my fixes, added with commenting out the three lines so that storage.qml is not loaded) | 14:01 |
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | ||
| flexiondotorg_ | larsu, dconf-editor is affected for example. | 14:17 |
| larsu | flexiondotorg_: how so? dconf-editor.vala never listens to change signals and nothing else uses the GSettings API | 14:22 |
| flexiondotorg_ | larsu, Right, understood. So if I am tweaking settings with dconf-editor it is the application that is at fault if those changes are not reflected directly? | 14:24 |
| larsu | flexiondotorg_: yes. The application needs to connect to the change signal before reading the first value | 14:27 |
| flexiondotorg_ | larsu, Yes, understood. | 14:28 |
| desrt | bonan lundon, ubuntanoj | 14:30 |
| mitya57 | desrt: labas pirmadienis | 14:32 |
| * desrt ne parolas litovan lingvon | 14:32 | |
| desrt | sed, saluton! | 14:33 |
| pitti | desrt: Hej, kiel vi fartas ? | 14:39 |
| desrt | pitti: bone. preskaŭ sane, denove :) kaj vi? | 14:40 |
| pitti | desrt: very well, thanks! survived the flu? | 14:40 |
| desrt | yup... lingering annoying dry cough, though | 14:40 |
| desrt | and never really had 'the flu' proper, i think | 14:41 |
| desrt | it's also starting to get warmer again... up to -18° | 14:44 |
| === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g | ||
| willcooke | desrt, anyone -> Can someone provide me with the minimum working metacity config. | 15:17 |
| willcooke | What are the absolute min. packages I have to install to get it to work | 15:17 |
| willcooke | On the phone it's just giving me a grey screen and no applications are visible | 15:17 |
| willcooke | mlankhorst has been playing as well, and we think we're missing a couple of packages | 15:18 |
| desrt | willcooke: you'd probably want something like gnome-panel in there... | 15:19 |
| desrt | if you're looking for minimalism, maybe xfce is a better bet? | 15:19 |
| desrt | at least it's theoretically maintained | 15:19 |
| seb128 | Laney, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1422404 | 15:43 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1422404 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "The selection dialog uses GtkHeaderBar under unity" [Undecided,New] | 15:43 |
| seb128 | just as a fyi | 15:43 |
| Laney | hehe | 15:44 |
| Laney | do you want to learn how to fix those? ;-) | 15:44 |
| seb128 | no, thanks ;-) | 15:44 |
| seb128 | well, I know how to fix those | 15:44 |
| seb128 | can have a look to this one tomorrow if you want | 15:44 |
| Laney | nah | 15:45 |
| Laney | I already submitted a bug upstream, just need to add another case to it | 15:45 |
| seb128 | k | 15:47 |
| Laney | I found another one | 15:48 |
| Laney | right click a directory -> properties -> permissions -> change permissions... | 15:48 |
| Laney | BAH! | 15:48 |
| seb128 | oh, yeah, indeed | 15:49 |
| Laney | I didn't grep for GTK_DIALOG_USE_HEADER_BAR when doing the patching before | 15:49 |
| Laney | that's one other way to make them | 15:49 |
| Laney | gtk_dialog_new_with_buttons | 15:49 |
| ochosi | by the way, we discovered a teeny-weeny problem with the no-headerbar patch in evince under xubuntu (patch attached): https://launchpad.net/bugs/1422354 | 15:50 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1422354 in evince (Ubuntu) "Show traditional titlebar when maximized with no GtkHeaderBar present" [Undecided,New] | 15:50 |
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| larsu | ochosi: just remove the call altogether | 15:59 |
| larsu | default is to not hide the titlebar when maximized | 15:59 |
| larsu | and please submit upstream | 15:59 |
| ochosi | larsu: ok, will do! | 16:05 |
| ochosi | oh, you have push-rights to evince upstream..? :) | 16:06 |
| larsu | yes, but one of the maintainers will have to give the ok | 16:07 |
| ochosi | sure | 16:07 |
| ochosi | was just (positively) surprised is all | 16:07 |
| larsu | ochosi: gnome commit rights are all-or-nothing | 16:07 |
| larsu | and then people behave by not stepping on other maintainer's toes | 16:08 |
| larsu | (mostly) | 16:08 |
| * Laney coughs | 16:08 | |
| larsu | Laney: that paren was for me :) | 16:08 |
| Laney | :D | 16:08 |
| mitya57 | Guys look what I have: http://people.ubuntu.com/~mitya57/csd-window-buttons.png | 16:10 |
| mitya57 | (that is thanks to recent gtk commit that added separate css classes for each decoration button) | 16:11 |
| larsu | mitya57: you'ee welcome | 16:11 |
| larsu | mitya57: thanks for making this btw | 16:11 |
| Laney | nice! | 16:11 |
| * larsu will gladly review patches to ubuntu-themes | 16:12 | |
| Laney | does it just use the same icons as ssd buttons? | 16:12 |
| Laney | can we get that commit into gtk-3-14? ;-) | 16:12 |
| larsu | Laney: it just sets some classes. Backport should be trivial | 16:12 |
| Laney | indeed | 16:12 |
| larsu | I hesitate to put it upstream though | 16:12 |
| mitya57 | Laney: yes, I can upload gtk with that cherry-picked right now | 16:13 |
| Laney | already is no? | 16:13 |
| Laney | mitya57: I mean upstream | 16:13 |
| Laney | at least first | 16:13 |
| larsu | Laney: upstream 314 | 16:13 |
| Laney | how come? | 16:13 |
| ochosi | larsu: upstreamed: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=744601 | 16:13 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 744601 in general "Titlebar is hidden when window is maximized" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 16:13 |
| mitya57 | It uses the same icons, I had to make a symlink assets-csd -> ../metacity-1/ | 16:14 |
| mitya57 | Now I need to figure out how to remove the space between icons | 16:14 |
| larsu | ochosi: cool thanks! Ping me if this doesn't get an answer in a couple of days | 16:16 |
| larsu | Laney: was the "how come?" for me? | 16:16 |
| Laney | yep | 16:17 |
| ochosi | larsu: okeydokey, will do! and thanks for pointing me upstream, it's good practice and i guess i should do that more often... | 16:17 |
| larsu | Laney: because adding style classes is kind of like adding API, and I generally dislike doing that on stable series | 16:17 |
| larsu | ochosi: indeed ;) | 16:17 |
| larsu | Laney: would it help us that much to have it upstream? It's just one more _git patch, right? | 16:18 |
| * larsu can ask to get it into 3.14 if Laney really wants it | 16:18 | |
| Laney | It's okay, if that's the policy then you're right | 16:19 |
| Laney | I just like to avoid one more patch if possible :) | 16:19 |
| larsu | in fairness, gtk has been really bad about that in the past | 16:19 |
| larsu | I'm trying to make it better though | 16:19 |
| larsu | Laney: understandable | 16:19 |
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| Noskcaj | Laney, Are you going to upload evolution 3.12.10 before FF? | 19:15 |
| seb128 | Noskcaj, that update is a simple stable one, feature freeze has nothing to do with those | 19:17 |
| Noskcaj | ok | 19:18 |
| Noskcaj | seb128, Do we want libgweather 3.15.90? Adds one symbol and updates the docs and translations | 19:23 |
| seb128 | Noskcaj, no idea, I personnal don't want it, but feel free to update/find a sponsor if you think it's worth it | 19:24 |
| Noskcaj | I'd like to get the fixed docs included, so i'll put in in the sponsor queue | 19:25 |
| Noskcaj | Are there any 3.15 components we want? | 19:25 |
| Noskcaj | e.g. gitg 3.15.1 is needed to get a lib update so kde's kate works properly | 19:26 |
| willcooke | hey robert_ancell | 19:54 |
| robert_ancell | willcooke, hello | 19:55 |
| willcooke | how goes Tuesday? | 19:55 |
| robert_ancell | It's fulfilling all my Tuesday expectations at the moment. | 19:55 |
| willcooke | :D | 19:56 |
| willcooke | http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/4c/4c75cbec1123992e21f971d451fbc67bd8ca94891a41db540b9e205efdc4d6d0.jpg | 20:26 |
| willcooke | I don't need no stinking Window Manager! | 20:26 |
| willcooke | I'll make my own out of xdotool and bash script | 20:27 |
| willcooke | \o/ | 20:27 |
| willcooke | Full screen Xmir apps | 20:27 |
| willcooke | hrm. Staged -> WIndowed = seg fault. | 20:29 |
| willcooke | Not so clever after all | 20:29 |
| willcooke | right enough for today I think | 20:33 |
| willcooke | g/night | 20:33 |
| robert_ancell | If I had a dollar for every time I've heard that - " I don't need no stinking Window Manager! I'll make my own..." | 20:34 |
| cyphermox | hehe | 20:39 |
| robert_ancell | TheMuso, does /usr/lib/at-spi2-core/at-spi-bus-launcher expect gnome-settings-daemon / unity-settings-daemon to exist / be ready? | 22:49 |
| TheMuso | robert_ancell: I don't know. | 23:08 |
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