[00:00] <daftykins> ugh Linux tool naming *facepalm*
[00:00] <remline> rww, is there any compelling reason to use aptitude with ubuntu? It doesn't come pre-installed, so I assume ubuntu maintainers decided apt and apt-get were "better"?
[00:01] <daftykins> pretty sure i've seen some more experienced users advised against aptitude
[00:01] <rww> remline: not really, just use whichever you prefer
[00:01] <daftykins> but why not use what's built in 0o
[00:01] <rww> daftykins: It used to have issues with resolving multiarch dependencies. It doesn't these days.
[00:01] <rww> (personally, I use aptitude)
[00:01] <remline> I'm fairly new to Ubuntu, so I don't have a preference. I'd take the community recommendation and be satisfied. :D
[00:01] <owen1> i want to see all the services that are available on my machine, which one are currently running and which are starting on boot. i know there are 3 services system in ubuntu: system v init, upstart and systemd. i also know the command 'service --status-all' is doing what i want but only for system v init. am i accurate with my assumptions and what are the other 2 commands i need to know?
[00:01] <rww> remline: yeah, stick with apt-get
[00:02] <rww> owen1: to start, currently-released versions of ubuntu don't use systemd for services management
[00:02] <rww> it'll change over at some point, not sure if it's 15.04 or later
[00:02] <owen1> rww: ok
[00:02] <remline> rww, mind telling me why you use aptitude? This package management stuff is pretty interesting and neat.
[00:02] <rww> remline: the ncurses gui
[00:03] <rww> also, I prefer aptitude search to apt-cache and what not
[00:03] <rww> owen1: as for upstart, http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#list-all-jobs
[00:03] <owen1> rww: thanks!
[00:03] <rww> owen1: (it's a one-liner, but I'm linking you so you have the rest of the upstart documentation handy)
[00:04] <remline> rww, cool, I read about the ncurses bit.
[00:04] <evon> Is anyone aware of a program that will automatically sort through my files and place them directories based on the year they were created?
[00:04] <owen1> rww: what's on the roadmap when it comes to services? systemd will replace system v init and upstart?
[00:05] <daftykins> evon: no, but #bash might help you if you ask really nicely
[00:06] <evon> daftykins, What is #bash?
[00:06] <rww> owen1: yep, though sysvinit scripts are supported by systemd (and upstart), so the main job is getting all the Ubuntu-specific and upstart-specific stuff moved to systemd units
[00:06] <SchrodingersScat> !bash | evon
[00:06] <owen1> rww: thanks again
[00:06] <SchrodingersScat> evon: and that's a channel here where people talk about bash
[00:06] <daftykins> evon: an IRC channel.
[00:07] <evon> SchrodingersScat, Thanks man. I will check out that channel
[00:14] <m0h4wk> Does anyone have any experience with the Tor browser?
[00:15] <inex> what's so hard about an encrypted firefox?
[00:16] <daftykins> m0h4wk: people don't tend to want to waste time asking you to ask the REAL question, so you're better off asking the *actual* one :)
[00:17] <m0h4wk> daftykins: what do you mean?
[00:17] <m0h4wk> daftykins: I'm having trouble with accessing hackforums.net on Tor
[00:17] <coelhos> Hi, I have a monitor connected with a VGA to DVI-I adapter to a Nvidia card. I can't get a resolution over 1333 in this monitor. I have tried xrandr and no luck. Any tips ?
[00:17] <daftykins> m0h4wk: then that's off topic here.
[00:18] <m0h4wk> daftykins: any idea which IRC channel I should go to then?
[00:18] <daftykins> coelhos: sure you don't mean DVI on the card end -> VGA?
[00:18] <somekool> I have no experience with Tor, maybe there is a Tor IRC channel.
[00:18] <daftykins> !alis | m0h4wk go nuts
[00:18] <m0h4wk> daftykins: <3 thnx
[00:18] <somekool> inex suggested Encrypted Firefox might be another solution, although we dont know what you need/want
[00:18] <coelhos> daftykins: yes that
[00:19] <daftykins> coelhos: i'd be willing to bet X failed to read the EDID off the display, read /var/log/Xorg.0.log to confirm
[00:20] <inex> somekool: m0h4wk asked about it
[00:21] <coelhos> daftykins: i will do that, should i go old school and put the sycns in the xcong ?
[00:21] <daftykins> coelhos: a modeline might work, might have to pull it over DVI first
[00:21] <daftykins> coelhos: you're using proprietary nvidia drivers i take it?
[00:22] <coelhos> yes
[00:23] <coelhos> daftykins: yes, the ubuntu latest ones
[00:23] <daftykins> i take it that means 331
[00:24] <coelhos> yeap
[00:27] <kostkon> coelhos, cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep -i edid
[00:27] <daftykins> pretty sure i said that already :)
[00:28] <coelhos> brb
[00:29] <bruxC> I'm looking to create a filesystem on an unallocated drive in linux. I've been told ext4 is a good enough fs for what I'm trying to do. I'd like to make sure that my command line is correct before executing. Is this going to successfully partition my full 2TB drive? sudo mkfs -t ext4 /dev/sdb
[00:30] <EriC^^> bruxC: no
[00:30] <bruxC> Oh?
[00:30] <ObrienDave> easier to use gparted
[00:30] <EriC^^> bruxC: you need to create the partition, then format it
[00:30] <daftykins> sdb is a disk, not a partition
[00:30] <bruxC> to be clear, i'm in ubuntu server 14.04, will this sway your suggestion?
[00:30] <bruxC> the disk is what I'm partitioning.
[00:30] <ObrienDave> no
[00:30] <inex> how much ram does ubuntu 14.04 need (for a quick virtual machine test)?
[00:31] <daftykins> bruxC: yeah but your command isn't.
[00:31] <bruxC> I see. Could you help me construct a more accurate command?
[00:31] <EriC^^> bruxC: use sudo cfdisk
[00:31] <inex> oh nvm, help.ubuntu.com had the answer kthxbai
[00:34] <daftykins> bruxC: once you create a partition (e.g. /dev/sdb1) then you can mkfs on it.
[00:35] <coelhos> Yeap, Unable to get display device CRT-0's EDID; cannot compute DPI
[00:36] <daftykins> winner \o/ i'd hate to have to deal with analog displays in this day and age
[00:37] <coelhos> my other monitor has dvi-d and works flawless
[00:37] <darkelfjuggalo> can someone remind me how to purge unnessesary programs and files in command line?
[00:37] <kostkon> coelhos, what brand and type is it
[00:37] <daftykins> plenty of guides online on picking a mode
[00:37] <coelhos> lg w2243s
[00:37] <kostkon> coelhos, ok
[00:39] <coelhos> So i put some values on horizsync and vertrefresh ?
[00:40] <m0h4wk> I am having issues configuring an IRC channel.
[00:40] <m0h4wk> I don't know what I'm doing wrong when entering the host website and server
[00:41] <ObrienDave> m0h4wk, supybot?
[00:42] <localusr> ?
[00:42] <kostkon> coelhos, i bet you've come across this forum post already http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1946208
[00:43] <coelhos> kostkon, i tried that
[00:43] <kostkon> coelhos, ok
[00:48]  * peterlondon my first time on IRC in... 15 years perhaps? haha, have to look up all the commands.
[00:50] <bazhang> which client peterlondon
[00:50] <Alphonse> .net
[00:51] <peterlondon> Found irssi on google... anyone else using it? seems like a decent client huh? any other recommendations? must be command line... :)
[00:51] <bruxC> daftykins it already shows as /dev/sdb in disk -l
[00:51] <bazhang> weechat peterlondon
[00:51] <bazhang> help in #weechat peterlondon
[00:51] <Bashing-om> peterlondon: I also use irssi .
[00:52] <daftykins> bruxC: you'll need a sharper eye than that to learn Linux. /dev/sdb_1_
[00:52] <bruxC> ?
[00:52] <daftykins> i said /dev/sdb1
[00:52] <bruxC> I understand.
[00:52] <bruxC> But what I"m saying is the unallocated drive is sdb why would it be sdb1
[00:52] <daftykins> /dev/sdb is a disk, you can't mkfs on that... /dev/sdb1 is the first partition on disk sdb, that can me mkfs'd on ;)
[00:53] <bruxC> Isn't it the same entity
[00:53]  * daftykins facepalms
[00:53] <daftykins> you can only make a file system on a partition, not on a raw disk
[00:53] <daftykins> without a partition table a disk is useless
[00:53] <peterlondon> Bashing-om: cool! staying with irssi for now then :P
[00:53] <bruxC> so humor me then
[00:54] <bruxC> I partition this disk and then what happens.. it changes from sdb to sdb1
[00:54] <bruxC> or is there two entries in fdisk
[00:54] <daftykins> no, sdb gains sdb1
[00:54] <Bashing-om> peterlondon: Like a lot of things, hang in there. There is a learning curve .
[00:54] <daftykins> bruxC: "sudo fdisk -l" and all should make sense.
[00:54] <bruxC> I have, and I guess it doesn't.
[00:55] <daftykins> bruxC: notice numbers beside /dev/sda ?
[00:55] <bruxC> yes.
[00:55] <daftykins> those are the partitions on it
[00:55] <daftykins> is this getting clearer yet?
[00:55] <bruxC> I see.
[00:56] <peterlondon> Bashing-om Lurning curves is what we're here for right? :P
[00:56] <daftykins> bruxC: so like EriC^^ suggested - use "sudo cfdisk" to create a partition - a single ext4 one for 100% of the disk if that's what you want
[00:58] <bruxC> I'm assuming I'll need to do certain parameters
[00:58] <daftykins> well, as with us, it doesn't read minds
[00:58] <Bashing-om> peter, yup. we learn .. for extended help with irssi, join #irssi on this network .
[00:59] <bruxC> And as do you, I pick up on condescending demeanors.
[00:59] <bruxC> I didn't wake up and learn Linux. I'm trying whether it's apparent or not.
[00:59] <daftykins> bruxC: best way to learn is to be quicker at saying when you don't understand :)
[01:00] <ObrienDave> bruxC, windows can have partitions c: d: e: on same drive. linus uses sda1 sda2 sda3
[01:00] <bruxC> I have been completely transparent to that fact.
[01:00] <ObrienDave> *linux
[01:00] <sabgenton> Multiple monitors making me cry
[01:01] <sabgenton> How do i get the first workspace on the screen i pluged i to the laptop?
[01:02] <sabgenton> I open something and it goes top the laptop screen the keyboard s there but the mouse is on the second on
[01:02] <peterlondon> Btw, hey everybody! :) I'm only been spending a few weeks with Linux but it's been more or less 24/7 shifts here (yes no regular job at the moment) so I'm picking up stuff fast enough... But I do have a question - that google immediately couldn't solve for me... :P. I'm setting up my first Software Raid with 3x3TB hard drives for now... But the inital "building process" is SOOO slow... maxing out at 5295K/sec according to /proc/mdstat... this is gonna t
[01:03] <peterlondon> *I've BEEN spending....
[01:03] <daftykins> your message cut off at "this is gonna t..."
[01:03] <peterlondon> of, damn, ok, : this is gonna take weeks! this can't be normal??? Tried a couple of  tweaks I found on google but nothing have helped so far...
[01:04] <sabgenton> Multiple monitors obviously have a long way to go
[01:04] <daftykins> no ideas about software RAID, personally
[01:04] <daftykins> i use proper hardware based RAID :)
[01:04] <sabgenton> i guess utopic could be better (on trusty)
[01:04] <daftykins> going non-LTS is never a wise move imo
[01:06] <userme> hello how to u find out mac on linux thnks
[01:06] <peterlondon> daftykins yeah that was my inital plan too.... even though I'm not sure how "proper" the hardware RAID in my 5 bay enclosure is hehe. but I did a lot of reading and mdadm seems to be more flexible
[01:06] <SerialDev> what's with all the ubuntu offshoots like xubuntu and kubuntu?
[01:06] <bruxC> the drive doesn't show up in cfdisk
[01:06] <sabgenton> Peterlondon: tryed btrfs?
[01:06] <daftykins> peterlondon: depends how much you enjoy staring at logs when the proverbial is hitting the fan, i guess :)
[01:07] <sabgenton> Serialdev: they come with different desktop s installed
[01:07] <peterlondon> sabgenton - never heard of it...is it a filesystem?
[01:08] <sabgenton> Among other things
[01:08] <SerialDev> sabgenton: well, i knew that, but heck, i can put kde on my regular ubuntu install, no need for an offshoot to do it for me
[01:08] <EriC^^> bruxC: type sudo parted -l
[01:08] <EriC^^> bruxC: if it has a gpt partition table use cgdisk
[01:09] <sabgenton> Some of them alter base packages
[01:10] <peterlondon> daftykins proverbial.... that's an interesting word, have no idea what it means though :P
[01:10] <SerialDev> P.O.U.'s good enough for me, lol
[01:10] <SerialDev> POU == plain old ubuntu
[01:11] <SerialDev> and even ubuntu is a user-friendly debian
[01:11] <EriC^^> peterlondon: what usually hits the fan?
[01:11] <SerialDev> P.O.O. hits the fan, haha
[01:11] <sabgenton> .
[01:12] <remline> SerialDev, I've been wondering the same thing, it seems rather drastic to have a different distribution just to change a few packages (such as the desktop environment)
[01:12] <sabgenton> peterlondon: yeah its  ment to replace ext
[01:15] <daftykins> peterlondon: i used it in place of swearing, as goes the phrase
[01:15] <SerialDev> i'm taking a linux class at the university i'm enrolled in as part of the requirements for my IT degree
[01:15] <SerialDev> good thing i'm already pretty familiar with it more or less
[01:15] <bazhang> !ot | SerialDev
[01:16] <SerialDev> ah, kk
[01:16] <peterlondon> haha yeah OK... well I'm not putting a single byte on this RAID array that I don't already have backed up somewhere. I spent days and nights reading about RAID and losing big amounts of data seems to be a part of the game so to say, must say it's convenient though. if my array ever finishes initiating that is....
[01:17] <peterlondon> I think in the comments for EVERY article I read about RAID someone mentioned losing data, no matter at what RAID level. hehe.
[01:17] <sabgenton> peterlondon: you can format a couple of partitions in btrfs and set the fs itself to raid mode whatever
[01:18] <peterlondon> sabgenton I will definitely look it up... just had a really quick peek at the wiki but it seems interesting
[01:19] <bruxC> Thank you EriC^^ and daftykins
[01:19] <sabgenton> ( It doesn't even care if there on the same drive or not)
[01:19] <EriC^^> bruxC: no problem
[01:21] <daftykins> peterlondon: what sabgenton speaks of is still experimental so i would keep that in mind
[01:22] <sabgenton> Once you format a raid etc  you can use it as one big FS or  make multiple special directorys that can be booted into as separate FS's (called subvolunes or snapshots)
[01:26] <bruxC> I would now like to copy all of my content from the old ntfs to my new ext4 drive. will a sudo cp -f /old/ /new work or should I be looking into something else?
[01:27] <daftykins> sudo shouldn't be necessary
[01:27] <sabgenton> peterlondon: yeah everything works nice but your disk may randomly become un mountable  and lose all your data
[01:27] <sabgenton> Havent had problems my self but i know someone who did
[01:28] <bruxC> looks like rsync might be something beneficial
[01:33] <sabgenton> peterlondon: image then zero-log is a common solution to btrfs not mounting https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Btrfs-zero-log
[01:34] <sabgenton> Just do not use fsck !
[01:35] <sabgenton> Btfs check is unstable an the reason a lot of people dont get there data back
[01:56] <Codmadnesspro> Hi, I'm trying to make ufw active but when I do ufw status it says inactive, i've tried sudo service ufw start but it says start: Job is already running: ufw
[01:56] <Codmadnesspro> How else can I attempt to make it active?
[01:59] <mwally> Greetings gentlemen.  I am trying to fix a sound issue.  My desktop has multiple output devices, and seems to randomly switch away from the correct one when opening certian applications.  Specifically, anytime I open a web browser the sound goes away, and I need to open the System Settings->Sound and switch back to the correct one.  Ubuntu 14.04.1.  Any suggestions/ideas?
[02:07] <MDTech-us_MAN> hello
[02:07] <MDTech-us_MAN> I have an amazon ec2 server
[02:08] <MDTech-us_MAN> I am trying to add an IPv6 tunnel to it
[02:08] <daftykins> ask for their support, then - MDTech-us_MAN
[02:08] <MDTech-us_MAN> I followed this exact guide, but no luck!
[02:08] <MDTech-us_MAN> http://www.datacentrix.org/blog/faq/IPv6-tunnel-+-rDNS-on-Amazon-EC2-running-Ubuntu.html
[02:08] <MDTech-us_MAN> its not officially supported
[02:09] <MDTech-us_MAN> here is the problem
[02:09] <daftykins> i wouldn't really consider anything on amazon EC2 to be supported in here
[02:09] <MDTech-us_MAN> # sudo ifup he-ipv6
[02:09] <MDTech-us_MAN> run-parts: /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/iptables exited with return code 1
[02:09] <MDTech-us_MAN> RTNETLINK answers: Permission denied
[02:09] <MDTech-us_MAN> Failed to bring up he-ipv6.
[02:09] <daftykins> don't paste in IRC
[02:09] <daftykins> !paste
[02:10] <natalie> hi, I installed 64 bit Ubuntu after a disassembly of my computer, didn't fully seat one of the RAM sticks, I just corrected the problem, but I only show 3 GB of the 4 total installed. Can anyone help me?
[02:10] <MDTech-us_MAN> !pastebinit
[02:11] <daftykins> natalie: can you use http://paste.ubuntu.com to show "free -m" and "uname -a" ?
[02:13] <natalie> daftykins: thanks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10248280/
[02:14] <Guest75321> if i install Ubuntu GNOME 15.04 daily build will that turn into the offical build when it releases or will i have to download and install it when it officaly releases
[02:14] <natalie> should I have run some kind of memory check instead of just hitting f1 when it said my memory changed?
[02:14] <daftykins> Guest75321: keeping it up to date, it will become the final product, yes.
[02:14] <Guest75321> thanks
[02:15] <daftykins> natalie: no, that would've been enough to provide the update. RAM upgrades are a very automatic thing.
[02:15] <daftykins> natalie: what do you get with "lshw -C memory" ?
[02:16] <MDTech-us_MAN> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10248292/
[02:17] <daftykins> MDTech-us_MAN: nah like i said, unsupported in my eyes. sorry.
[02:17] <natalie> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10248300/ thanks!!!
[02:18] <MDTech-us_MAN> daftykins, say I didn't mention it being a vps
[02:18] <daftykins> natalie: looks to me like you've got 1 x DIMM of 2GB and 1 x DIMM of 1GB, so you don't have 4GB
[02:18] <MDTech-us_MAN> what then?
[02:18] <daftykins> MDTech-us_MAN: very funny. it's not being a VPS, it's being amazon ec2 - totally different. sorry.
[02:18] <daftykins> and i don't know the topic anyway so it's not like i'm withholding info
[02:19] <daftykins> natalie: laptop i take it?
[02:19] <natalie> yes
[02:20] <natalie> I swear I knew I had 4 GB before
[02:20] <natalie> could lshw possibly be wrong?
[02:20] <daftykins> natalie: so if you remove the mains power... battery - then remove the lower access panel and read the labels on each RAM module, you'll confirm my suspicions
[02:20] <daftykins> no i seriously doubt it
[02:20] <natalie> ok, thanks
[02:20] <natalie> weird...
[02:20] <natalie> I'll do that.
[02:20] <natalie> Cheers!
[02:21] <daftykins> np
[02:21] <natalie> bye!
[02:41] <Basketball> who needs help
[02:46] <MDTech-us_MAN> I have an amazon ec2 server
[02:47] <MDTech-us_MAN> I am trying to set IPv6 tunnel on my Ubuntu EC2. after I try to start the interface, I get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10248292/
[02:47] <MDTech-us_MAN> this is the guide I am following: http://www.datacentrix.org/blog/faq/IPv6-tunnel-+-rDNS-on-Amazon-EC2-running-Ubuntu.htm
[02:47] <MDTech-us_MAN> Basketball: I guess I do
[02:49] <qinliming> xixi
[02:49] <somsip> !zh | qinliming
[02:52] <nattyrice> Okay, so I am trying to dual boot both Windows 8.1 and Ubuntu 14.04.  Grub is refusing to boot my linux partition.  I keep getting "Gave up waiting for root device."  I have tried using both UUID for the partition and the partition directly.
[02:54] <nattyrice> I believe it may have something to do with the hardware I am running.  I have an SSD but it is attached via a pci card that gives my computer SATA 3 ports.
[02:54] <xsi> How to disable dead.letter file? I'm using ssmtp as sendmail client for php
[02:54] <nattyrice> my linux partition is on that SSD
[03:03] <khelllendros> Good morning/evening/night!
[03:03] <daftykins> nattyrice: so put it on the motherboard direct and test.
[03:03] <daftykins> just don't let Windows boot
[03:05] <khelllendros> I've got a quick question about the a bit torrent for 14.10 64bit...there seem to be no seeders?  How could I become a seeder?  I know how to create a torrent file in Utorrent but what is ubunut's torrent info so I can become a seeder for the 14.10 amd64bit?
[03:06] <nattyrice> wouldn't that change the partition order?  if so i'd have to change it back to my uuid but that shouldn't be a problem.
[03:06] <daftykins> depends how you connect them.
[03:08] <nattyrice> ok well I'll have to try that later.  I've got to go. Thanks for the idea daftykins
[03:09] <Philll> hi
[03:09] <Philll> i have a problem on my ubuntu
[03:09] <daftykins> !details | Philll
[03:09] <Philll> some programas starts by itself
[03:09] <topherchris> I've been having a constant issue with loading websites in any browser (Chrome/Chromium, Firefox, even links) on all wifi networks I connect to. I can only connect to sites that have SSL (begin https://) - I have no issues getting updates from apt-get (http:// sources) but if I run apt-get update it does however hang on waiting for headers 99%
[03:09] <topherchris> What can I do to troubleshoot the problem? Could it be dodgy firmware/network driver?
[03:10] <Philll> OK, the codeblocks started by itself, could it be that my linux was invaded?
[03:10] <daftykins> Philll: that's not sufficient detail
[03:10] <Philll> i go giving more details
[03:11] <daftykins> topherchris: does wired work?
[03:11] <Philll> i have a wifi network that i divide with some neighoubourhood
[03:11] <Philll> only know that from time to time some program oppens by itself
[03:11] <Philll> like if i had clicked on it
[03:12] <Philll> is this regular?
[03:12] <daftykins> you're the first to claim it
[03:12] <topherchris> daftykins, I can't try wired, I only have a wireless hotspot. :( My wife's laptop (same Toshiba Satellite brand, only newer and preinstalled with win 8) has no issues connecting. Same problem occurs when dual booting in to Windows 7. I do have a USB wireless device I can try hotplugging
[03:13] <daftykins> if it's cross-platform then it's not an ubuntu issue
[03:13] <Philll>  i have a problem on my ubuntu some programas starts by itself  OK, the codeblocks started by itself, could it be that my linux was invaded? i have a wifi network that i divide with some neighoubourhoo only like
[03:13] <Philll> if i had clicked on it
[03:13] <khelllenros> I've got a quick question about the a bit torrent for 14.10 64bit...there seem to be no seeders?  How could I become a seeder?  I know how to create a torrent file in Utorrent but what is ubunut's torrent info so I can become a seeder for the 14.10 amd64bit?
[03:14] <daftykins> khelllenros: only volunteers help here, there are no staff to comment on the torrents
[03:14] <topherchris> daftykins, I know. :( I was wondering if anybody might have some insight because of that. Googling returns no usable results
[03:14] <daftykins> topherchris: go chat to ##networking
[03:14] <khelllenros> thanks daftykins
[03:14] <topherchris> okey dokey, thanks, I'll go try there.
[03:15] <Philll> is it regular that some program starts by itself like if i had clicked on it?
[03:15] <daftykins> Philll: no, like i said above.
[03:15] <daftykins> you're the first to claim that
[03:16] <Philll> daftykins ok, could it be hardware
[03:16] <Philll> ?
[03:16] <daftykins> no, hardware cannot influence programs running
[03:16] <daftykins> that's far too fine-grained
[03:16] <Philll> could it be that my pc was invaded?
[03:16] <Philll> trought the wifi
[03:16] <Philll> ?
[03:16] <daftykins> seems a bit dramatic, can you stop writing on so many lines please?
[03:17] <Philll> sorry
[03:17] <daftykins> it's very spammy.
[03:18] <daftykins> it's hard to say where to go from there, i don't see why anyone with access to your machine would run random programs
[03:19] <Philll> i understand, is the someway that they invaded trough some opent port trough torrent?
[03:19] <daftykins> no that is highly unlikely
[03:19] <daftykins> run "cut -d: -f1 /etc/passwd" and see if there are any other usernames after you at the end of the file
[03:21] <EriC^^> Philll: could it be a cronjob or something
[03:21] <EriC^^> Philll: check how the program is being started
[03:22] <Philll> Eric how can i check how the program is being strated?
[03:22] <EriC^^> Philll: check /var/log/syslog for CRON first
[03:22] <Philll> daftykins i used the command and it shows root
[03:22] <Philll> daemon
[03:22] <Philll> bin
[03:22] <Philll> sys
[03:22] <Philll> sync
[03:22] <Philll> games
[03:23] <daftykins> Philll: remember what i said about lots of lines? :) don't paste here
[03:23] <EriC^^> hmm i think you can run ps aux and grep for the program
[03:23] <daftykins> and don't show me the contents of that file either :)
[03:23] <Philll> filipi
[03:23] <Philll> usermetrics
[03:23] <Philll> guest-mr3qXw
[03:23] <Philll> lxc-dnsmasq
[03:23] <Philll> sorry
[03:23] <Philll> oh my god
[03:24] <cfhowlett> !paste | Philll, install pastebinit.  use pastebinit
[03:27] <Philll> if my pc was invaded  would i see the mouse arrow running by itslef? because that did not happened
[03:28] <daftykins> Philll: lol, no.
[03:28] <daftykins> i think you're being paranoid
[03:32] <Emanuel_> I forgot who helped me the other night but I wanted to say the script that was provided worked perfectly.
[03:32] <mindless_chaos> have a strange issue, just started happening and I am not sure what to make of it
[03:32] <A3679> So if I do ls '/media/aaron/data/Recorded TV'0000000000000000000000000000000000 it lists what's in the folder but if I do ls /media/aaron/data/Recorded TV it says no such file or directory0000000000000000000000000
[03:33] <mindless_chaos> when I run ls command, my results come up messed up
[03:33] <EriC^^> Philll: while true; do if pgrep <program>; then echo $(ps aux | grep <program>); break; fi ; done
[03:33] <mindless_chaos> some times file names come up as segments of numbers
[03:33] <cfhowlett> A3679, use pastebinit!! thank you
[03:33] <mindless_chaos> I am stumped
[03:33] <EriC^^> Philll: that will wait for the program to start, get the ps aux info and stop
[03:33] <mindless_chaos> here is an example of 1 line from the ls output
[03:33] <mindless_chaos> 192.168.001.150.38808-054.192.036.134.00080  lesson
[03:33] <A3679> cfhowlett: for what?
[03:34] <mindless_chaos> it is also listing by default, in list but with out permission
[03:34] <mindless_chaos> any idea
[03:34] <mindless_chaos> anyone
[03:34] <mindless_chaos> ?
[03:35] <Philll> daftykins running cut -d: -f1 /etc/passwd  result is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10249238/
[03:35] <daftykins> A3679: yeah because you have a space in the path name, this breaks a lot of things.
[03:35] <A3679> Aaahhh
[03:35] <A3679> Thanks
[03:36] <Philll> Ericc^^ sorry i don't understand exactly how to do it
[03:36] <EriC^^> Philll: just paste the whole line and whenever the program runs it will echo the ps aux info
[03:37] <mindless_chaos> damn, how damn stupid can I be lol
[03:37] <EriC^^> that seems dumb
[03:37] <EriC^^> nevermind
[03:37] <mindless_chaos> i figured it out lol
[03:38] <EriC^^> Philll: whenever the program runs just type ps aux | grep <program>
[03:38] <daftykins> mindless_chaos: what had you done? :P
[03:38] <EriC^^> was fun to write though
[03:38] <mindless_chaos> apparently I program I ran made a lot. really lot of files with funky names in my home directory
[03:38] <EriC^^> would come in handy to check if a certain program ever runs or not or something
[03:38] <Philll> could it be the invasor:  guest-mr3qXw
[03:38] <mindless_chaos> they were just so long, it made normal ls look like a column
[03:39] <daftykins> mindless_chaos: hah
[03:39] <orlock> Can anybody reccomend a tool to do text search/replaces in a pdf file from CLI?
[03:39] <mindless_chaos> and it just made the output strange
[03:39] <mindless_chaos> It looked like it put all the numbers before a file, but it was another file name right next to it
[03:39] <mindless_chaos> i couldn't tell until I used a file explorer
[03:39] <daftykins> mindless_chaos: ls -l is handy in those times
[03:40] <mindless_chaos> no, -l looked all messed up too lol
[03:40] <daftykins> oh well. drama over.
[03:40] <mindless_chaos> but only because when I ran -l all I saw was funky numbers, and it looked like it was messed up
 you mean run it on terminal? it returns syntax error
[03:41] <apwbdjp> mindless_chaos, ls -lh should be clearer
[03:41] <mindless_chaos> it was just the fact that the names were so long, and so many of them, just made the output look stupid, i tried so many ontions
[03:42] <mindless_chaos> anyway, im out
[03:42] <mindless_chaos> later
[03:42] <EriC^^> Philll: it's good if the program is not a gui, i thought it wasn't a gui that was running, in your case just whenever it runs just ps aux | grep <program> in the terminal
[03:43] <EriC^^> Philll: you're probably missing a ; or something it should work
[03:43] <EriC^^> Philll: is the guest account active right now?
[03:44] <Philll> no
that is what appears running cut -d: -f1 /etc/passwd http://paste.ubuntu.com/10249238/
[03:46] <michael_1> The Ubuntu phone suspends apps running in the background. Does the same apply for terminal processes too?
[03:46] <cfhowlett> !touch | michael_1
[03:46] <daftykins> ugh these phone types are only gonna get worse now that thing is out
 i tryed to run the code you told me to run on terminal but it does not works it returns syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[03:48] <EriC^^> michael_1: if the terminal is an app i guess so
[03:48] <cached> what would be the correct command for backing up an entire remote drive over ssh? i'm looking into doing something like ssh me@remotehost "tar -czvf - / 2> /var/log/sshbackup" > backup.tar.gz , but i'd want to run the tar command as root...
[03:48] <EriC^^> michael_1: try sleep 10 and see if continued
[03:49] <EriC^^> Philll: paste what you typed
[03:49] <cached> and by backup i mean transfer. this is a one time thing, so rsync isn't necessary, and what's important is that it deals well with a lot of small files
[03:49] <Philll> ps aux | grep <program>
[03:49] <EriC^^> the exact thing you typed
[03:50] <Philll> yes
[03:50]  * daftykins chuckles
 is just a placeholder for whatever you want to use
[03:51] <EriC^^> like ps aux | grep something
[03:51] <Philll> ok i should put there the name of the prgraman that starts by itself? it is codeblocks i runned ps aux | grep <codeblocks> and it did not worked too
[03:51] <EriC^^> without the <>
 ok worked, it returned: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10249420/
[03:53] <EriC^^> ok so it's not running right now
[03:53] <Philll> no
[03:53] <daftykins> cached: if it's one time why must you make it into a single command?
[03:53] <cached> daftykins: i have like 1gb left on the remote drive, and 99gb worth of stuff
[03:54] <daftykins> cached: you're not gonna be able to tar it all up then
[03:54] <cached> daftykins: the tar isn't being stored in a file, it's sent over the network...
[03:55] <daftykins> i know that's what you're up to but didn't think it possible to send it before it's done, ho-hum
[03:55] <daftykins> ah well gl
 i mean the programm oppened by itself and i imdiately closed it, just that, it happens sometimes with other programs, it just opens and keeps opent, the program is always on the icons bar
 with icons bar i mean sidebar
[03:57] <EriC^^> is it one of the programs in your sidebar?
[03:57] <Philll> yes
[03:58] <EriC^^> ok, it could be the tap to click of the mouse
[03:58] <EriC^^> *touchpad
[03:58] <EriC^^> is it a laptop?
[03:58] <Philll> the touchpad was desactivated
[03:58] <Philll> yes
[03:58] <EriC^^> do you press the super button a lot?
[03:59] <EriC^^> or alt+numbers?
 sorry i don't know what is the superbutton, english is not my natural language
[03:59] <EriC^^> do you usually press alt+numbers
[04:00] <Philll> more or less, my old keyboard of this notebook was changed, it worked by itself
[04:00] <bmelcher84> anyone know much about the vlans?
[04:00] <daftykins> bmelcher84: ##networking
[04:00] <EriC^^> has it ever happened with you away from the keyboard?
[04:00] <bmelcher84> thanks
[04:01] <Philll> not that i remeber
 i mean this keyboard does not works by itself, typing or something like that, and i dont know if there is a command for codeblocks to open alt+something
[04:02] <EriC^^> Philll: it might be that you're pressing the winkey next to alt with a number, that causes the launcher apps to start
[04:02] <EriC^^> winkey = super
 it can be, my hand is always close to the win key
[04:05]  * OerHeks thinks: programms start by itself, keyboard changed, sounds like dirt in the edge of the touchpad or wrong keyboard
 i think this keyboard can have a bad contact with the winkey, i think the winkey is being fucntioning by itself
 it is a relief that is the keyboard, the old keyboard had the same problem, but not with the winkey, and as the program takes sometimes to start i could have pressed the keys without noticing and only noticing after a  while when the programs starts
[04:09] <Guest75321> i just installed ubuntu 15.04 everything was going good till the second or third restart. once i sussfully log in im kicked back out to the login screen. but then i can only can type a letter or two in password field before it goes blank
[04:10] <daftykins> Guest75321: 15.04 isn't out yet, #ubuntu+1
[04:11] <EriC^^> Philll: yes it could be so
[04:11] <EriC^^> Philll: you could add a xev command to the while true command and see if the buttons were pressed for it to open
[04:12] <EriC^^> Philll: or something like that
[04:12] <EriC^^> Philll: maybe disable the super key with xmodmap or something
[04:12] <EriC^^> see if goes away
[04:12] <EriC^^> *if it
[04:12] <somsip> !15.04 | Guest75321
 thankyou verrymuch Eric, i think an invasor would not be constantly openning programs from the sidebar and doing nothing more than that, but what about "guest-mr3qXw" appearing with the command cut -d: -f1 /etc/passwd is there something to worry?
[04:13] <EriC^^> Philll: no idea about that user, it looks like a guest session user but it's odd that it's in the user list
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/10249238/ is there something more here to worry?
[04:14] <EriC^^> Philll: type grep guest-mr3qXw | /etc/passwd
[04:14] <Basketball> how do i open apps at mouse location
[04:15] <OerHeks> Basketball, lols, move your mouse to the panel, open it, etc
[04:15] <EriC^^> Philll: sorry, grep guest-mr3qXw /etc/passwd
 it return permission denyed
[04:16] <Basketball> OerHeks, i have dual monitor
 that is what returned:  guest-mr3qXw:x:117:126:Guest,,,:/tmp/guest-mr3qXw:/bin/bash
[04:19] <Philll> <EriC^^ i have by mistake some weeks ago opened the ubuntu on guest, but i don't remeber nothing about  guest-mr3qXw
[04:19] <EriC^^> Philll: it looks like the guest sessions user
[04:20] <EriC^^> it's odd that it's in the user list though
 ok so is it regular that it apears  guest-mr3qXw when i put the command: cut -d: -f1 /etc/passwd    ?
[04:21] <bmelcher84> the networking channel is just troll games
[04:22] <bmelcher84> and they are not even funny when they do it lol
[04:22] <daftykins> bmelcher84: well, doesn't make it an ubuntu topic i'm afraid.
 i've made all the processes to instal wine on 64 bits system, could it have something related, i've executed allmost all the commands from here: http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit
[04:22] <bmelcher84> daftykins: how to set a vlan in ubuntu doesent make it under ubuntu?
[04:23] <EriC^^> Philll: type sudo grep guest /etc/shadow | cut -c1-20
[04:24] <daftykins> bmelcher84: vlans are configured on routers and switches 0o
  it returned guest-mr3qXw:*:16464
[04:24] <bmelcher84> daftykins: right, but you have to set your computer to look on a specific vlan to connect to it
[04:25] <daftykins> that doesn't sound right
[04:25] <daftykins> anyway, i'm off
 could this guest user thing be related to an invasor?
[04:26] <daftykins> it's probably just the guest account.
 our university's email is administrated by them and they have said that they monitor us
[04:26] <EriC^^> Philll: i dont think so
[04:27] <daftykins> wow that is some paranoid computing
[04:27] <EriC^^> Philll: it has the home dir of the guest session and no password
[04:27] <mk> I've installed Ubuntu on a fresh disk, but have a windows partition on an old disk that I'd like to boot into - is that possible?
 what about 16464 this is not my password, what is it?
[04:28] <daftykins> mk: plug it in, run sudo update-grub
[04:29] <EriC^^> Philll: according to the manpage it's the date the password was last changed
[04:29] <EriC^^> i wonder if somebody could tell when the account was created using it
[04:29] <mk> daftykins: excellent, it found it. Thank you
[04:29]  * daftykins bows
[04:30] <cfhowlett> guest account HAS no password - or system privileges
[04:30] <EriC^^> cfhowlett: yeah it has the number there though
 well i've changed the password recently, but you mean when my account was created? i just have one single account on this notebook.
[04:31] <EriC^^> that's why i wondered for no password accounts if you could tell when it was created with it
[04:31] <cfhowlett> if you're truly worried about the guest account, it is easily disabled.
 you mean 16464 is when the guest account was created?
[04:33] <Basketball> open window on monitor with mouse
[04:33] <EriC^^> Philll: the manpage says The date of the last password change, expressed as the number of           days since Jan 1, 1970.
 OH, amazing, it like time function o c language
[04:34] <OerHeks> 45 days ago
 if you say about the 16464 i changed my password kind like 15 days ago not 45
[04:36] <EriC^^> Philll: that's when the guest account was created
[04:37] <detorr> hello
[04:37] <detorr> whats up
[04:37] <detorr> is anyone here?
[04:37] <detorr> penis
 You mean when i installed ubunto on my notebook, or you mean when i started the notebook with the guest account?
[04:37] <detorr> ubuntu is fly
[04:38] <EriC^^> Philll: it's since the guest account was created, how i dunno
[04:39] <detorr> beep
[04:39] <DANtheBEASTman> i'm booted from a live cd, I have my hard drive mounted, but to make changes I need to use sudo.. I tried `# mount -o remount,rw,umask=000 /dev/sdaN` but it doesn't help, same effects..
[04:39] <DANtheBEASTman> any ideas?
 But i guest account is created when you install the os or when you use it? i did not put any name on the guest account, is that name generated automatically?
[04:39] <EriC^^> Philll: type sudo grep filipi /etc/shadow | cut -d: -f3
[04:40] <EriC^^> or better yet
[04:40] <EriC^^> Philll: type sudo grep root /etc/shadow | cut -d: -f3
[04:40] <Philll> 16400
[04:40] <DANtheBEASTman> the partition in question is ext4, so I'm guessing that umask really only applies to vfat filesystems
[04:40] <EriC^^> for the second?
[04:40] <Philll> yes root
[04:41] <Philll> wel 64 days before when i acessed with the guest user is probably the date when i last installed ubuntu on my notebook
[04:42] <Philll> i mean 16400-16464=64 kind like two months
 i think it creates with the acess of the guest user, how can i easily calculate the date trough 16464 days since 1970
 well today is 16481 so 16481-16464=17 days ago
 so i think 17 days ago was 30 january, probably when i acessed with the guest user by accident
[04:47] <DANtheBEASTman> EriC^^: btw, you could've done that with a single awk command.. sudo awk -F':' '/root/{print $3}' /etc/shadow  awk -F'<char>' works like cut -d and then you can grep in awk by running awk '/search/' and then to get the third column you {print $3}
 so this is no reason to worry ? this guest user?
[04:49] <EriC^^> DANtheBEASTman: true
[04:49] <EriC^^> DANtheBEASTman: cut -d: -f2- is useful for end of line stuff, awk has an ugly thing for that
[04:49] <EriC^^> unless you know how to easily grab the end of line from a column
[04:49] <EriC^^> :>
[04:53] <DANtheBEASTman> in that case i would just use awk to delete the columns, so if you wanted the third onwards.. awk -F':' '/root/{$1=$2=''; print}'  but this slightly mangles it, so cut may actually be easier.. but in general I try to avoid chaining pipes for text processing, and just try to use awk
[04:54] <DANtheBEASTman> EriC^^: ^ (oops forgive my color code fail)
[04:54] <EriC^^> DANtheBEASTman: yeah awk is great
[04:55] <DANtheBEASTman> actually that should awk -F':' '/root/{$1=$2=""; print}'  those inner quotes would mess up the outer quotes
[05:10] <jack_> Hello.
[05:12] <jack_> Is there any way to view an organized menu of whats on a machine with unity?
[05:12] <inex> o
[05:14] <sujata> can any one tell me  why i am suddenly getting telugu language in my browser instead of english, even though i have changed the preferences langugae to english
[05:15] <sujata> i am working on ubuntu 14.04
[05:15] <jack_> Me too.
[05:16] <aeoril> jack_ I did not know, but I clicked on the top icon in the taskbar which brings up the search and typed "software" - there was the "Ubuntu Software Center" - I clicked on that, then selected "Installed" at the top, and got an expandable, interactive list
[05:17] <detorr> can't install google chrome
[05:17] <detorr> error
[05:17] <jack_> Thanks
[05:17] <aeoril> jack_ sure :)
[05:17] <jack_> <<<<<<<<Good bye then. :)
[05:18] <aeoril> not sure that thing is called the taskbar though - the vertical bar with icons on the left
[05:19] <sujata> aeoril: can you tell me how to change the language for my browser?
[05:19] <detorr> oh it worked
[05:19] <detorr> see you later chumps
[05:19] <aeoril> sujata well, I will google it - just a minute
[05:20] <sujata> aeoril: ok
[05:21] <aeoril> sujata I just googled "change chrome language" and found this:  https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/95416?hl=en
[05:21] <aeoril> I have not tried it
[05:21] <sujata> aeoril: i am working with mozilla
[05:22] <aeoril> sujata can you take it from here though?  I.E., "change firefox language" ???
[05:23] <sujata> i ahve tried but i am not able to
[05:23] <sujata> i have changed the language but still it is showing the same telugu language
[05:24] <aeoril> Do you think maybe it is the specific website?  Maybe try http://www.microsoft.com or something?
[05:24] <aeoril> sorry, ubuntu.com ...
[05:24] <sujata> ok
[05:30] <aeoril> sujata did htat work?
[05:30] <aeoril> that*
[05:35] <Debugger> Help! https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/v72PN09z/Problem.txt
[05:36] <maestrojed> I am trying to add the php extension "geos". I don't know much, I followed http://wygoda.net/blog/testing-geos-33-php-bindings/. After I do all the steps I get no errors but the extension is not loaded. The ini file is loaded but I don't think the .so file exists. I did a "find" and didn't find it.
[05:43] <ekixx> hey guys
[05:43] <ekixx> i need a advice
[05:44] <Debugger> No helpers here? :(
[05:44] <somsip> maestrojed: possible sudo php5enmod {modname}
[05:44] <ekixx> im not asking for any help bro
[05:49] <maestrojed> somsip that complained the ini file wasn't in mods-available. So I moved it there. But then when I look at phpinfo not even the ini file is loaded. Before the ini file was loaded but not the module. I feel after checkinstall or make + make install there should be a .so file and there doesn't seem to be.
[05:49] <maestrojed> I always suck at this compiling stuff
[05:50] <somsip> maestrojed: you compiled this yourself? you need to contact the software authors then. I can't help if it's not an official package
[05:50] <somsip> !find geos
[05:51] <maestrojed> yeah, I linked to the the tut the official package said to file. I followed those instructions
[05:51] <maestrojed> http://wygoda.net/blog/testing-geos-33-php-bindings/
[05:52] <somsip> maestrojed: looks like it's official in 15.04 http://packages.ubuntu.com/vivid/php5-geos
[05:54] <maestrojed> somsip great.... :)
[05:58] <bmelcher84> ubuntu wont pull dhcp address
[05:58] <bmelcher84> no link lights either... not sure what the issue is
[05:58] <bmelcher84> anyone to lend a hand?
[06:02] <Debugger> What's the relationship between ubuntu community and amazon?
[06:06] <ubuntu> g
[06:06] <bagginsDK> Hello, i have a very embarassing problem with services. How can i enable / start a service in Ubuntu?
[06:07] <Guest78711> hi
[06:12] <jishjish> hi all, is there a general linux command (applicable to more than ubuntu distributions) which I can run to see if I am sixty_four bit compatible? I would like to run 64 bit ubuntu.
[06:13] <somsip> jishjish: sudo lshw -C cpu
[06:14] <jishjish> what should that command return, for me to know if I can run 64 bit?
[06:14] <somsip> jishjish: did you run it?
[06:15] <jishjish> I am not running ubuntu distribution at present.
[06:15] <jishjish> however I can boot into live-cd ubuntu and run it soon.
[06:15] <somsip> jishjish: or just look up your CPU on the manufacturer's spec sheet
[06:16] <jishjish> that's an idea thanks.
[06:20] <celexi> i am trying wayland on fedora 21 and its amazing how smooth it all ( even imput )is
[06:21] <kanhiay> hi all, i am using ubuntu 14.04 LTS and libre office 4.2.6.3, i want to insert a text watermark on all pages, i tried to insert a text box in header and adjust its length and position , so that it can be applied on all pages, but it is working only on that page. I want to apply it on all pages automatically, how to do that in Libre Office.
[06:21] <kanhiay> this simple task is taking too much time of me
[06:21] <cfhowlett> kanhiay, ask #libreoffice
[06:21] <kanhiay> no body is answering there cfhowlett
[06:23] <kanhiay> cfhowlett: nobody is answering and these are must have features in libreoffice and how libreoffice is productive , if it is taking so much time just for a watermark
[06:23] <cfhowlett> kanhiay, libreoffice is NOT an ubuntu program or product.  ask the publisher
[06:24] <kanhiay> cfhowlett:  peoples will be using it, hence i asked for a help here
[06:24] <cfhowlett> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/community-support/
[06:26] <kanhiay> cfhowlett: you are a bot??
[06:27] <cfhowlett> kanhiay, of course not
[06:27] <kanhiay> cfhowlett: thanks,
[06:27] <cfhowlett> kanhiay, happy2help!
[06:27] <bagginsDK> Hi, i would like to know how can i configure some Firewall rule in ubuntu.
[06:28] <cfhowlett> !ufw | baggar11
[06:28] <cfhowlett> bagginsDK, see above, baggar11 sorry
[06:28] <kanhiay> cfhowlett: most of times, whenever i boot into ubuntu, my DVD Drive ejects during boot and randomly 2-3 times, after login
[06:28] <cfhowlett> kanhiay, why not install ubuntu?
[06:29] <kanhiay> cfhowlett: I never faced this problem in Windows,
[06:29] <kanhiay> cfhowlett: it is already installed
[06:29] <cfhowlett> kanhiay, so why mention DVD?
[06:29] <kanhiay> cfhowlett: i mean, DVD tray ejects for no reason
[06:30] <kanhiay> cfhowlett: dvd tray is empty and i didn't press any button
[06:30] <NEI4U2K> hi, when you move your cursor to the left top corner, it shows open windows, right? how do i change the sensitivity of it? what is it called?
[06:30] <kanhiay> cfhowlett: it is irritating to close it manually, beacause I am using a laptop
[06:31] <akiva-thinkpad> Are there any good historically educational games available on Ubuntu? Something that will teach you something if you play it?
[06:31] <kanhiay> akiva-thinkpad: edubuntu
[06:31] <cfhowlett> akiva-thinkpad, edubuntu has games ... I think there's a metapackage
[06:31] <akiva-thinkpad> cfhowlett, cool
[06:32] <kanhiay> cfhowlett: nobody has replied yet, in #LIBREOFFICE
[06:34] <EulogyHr> hi
[06:36] <EulogyHr> ls
[06:44] <andrewjs18-> Ben64, still around?
[07:01] <mjhszig> anyone running pinguy?
[07:01] <cfhowlett> mjhszig, not supported here
[07:02] <mjhszig> darn, i went to #pinguy, but its empty
[07:02] <cfhowlett> mjhszig, if you need support, consider installing an OS that provides it.
[07:02] <mjhszig> well, i guess my question is really more broad... it really about ubuntu 10.10
[07:03] <cfhowlett> mjhszig, way past end of life, thus no longer supported.
[07:07] <mjhszig> k  well its still a usable system, and people are running way older OS than mine, im just looking for help to a problem, i came to the right place, so i not looking for nay-saysers, just someone who is interested in helping, thx
[07:08] <cfhowlett> mjhszig, 10.04, 12.04, 14.04 and 14.10 ubuntu are officially supported as stated in the channel topic.  other OS's are not.  sorry to disappoint.
[07:08] <r0b0r> sorry mate, the *buntu Nazis are only gonna help you on current distros
[07:09] <r0b0r> (but they are very helpful if you are running a current dist)
[07:09] <Tm_T> r0b0r: please try behave
[07:10] <r0b0r> sorry Tm, i did clarify...
[07:10] <Bob`> us.undernet.org
[07:10] <Tm_T> r0b0r: doesn't make it ok, show some respect to volunteers and the community
[07:11] <r0b0r> You guys are very helpful with issues regarding the current distros of Ubuntu... that's what i said....
[07:12] <r0b0r> is there an antiquated *buntu forum?
[07:12] <cfhowlett> r0b0r, pretty sure he was referring to the completely unprovoked insult about "buntu nazis"
[07:12] <r0b0r> oh
[07:12] <r0b0r> right. yeah sorry about that
[07:13] <r0b0r> seriously though, where does one go to find support for no longer supported distros?
[07:14] <r0b0r> there are a lot of people not running the latest distros for whatever reason, where can they go to ask questions?
[07:15] <r0b0r> I just feel it's rude to disregard someone, although it IS indeed in the topic header, for using an antiquated dist.
[07:15] <mjhszig> well that is definitely how i feel. i have a general question about ubuntu that cant even be entertained bc im not up to date. the forum designed for my distro apparently doesnt exist anymore. so now what am i supposed to do. ok if this is offical channel of supported OS, then where am i supposed to go
[07:16] <cfhowlett> mjhszig, easy answer: install a supported version?
[07:17] <cfhowlett> mjhszig, LTS versions have 5 year support lifetimes.  14.04 is the current LTS
[07:18] <somsip> r0b0r: try asking your real question. If it doesn't involve a package issue, it might have a simple fix.
[07:19] <Guest9587> luke2
[07:19] <r0b0r> somsip, I am simply an observer in this forum - thankyou though for being polite
[07:20] <r0b0r> Manners go a long way!
[07:20] <somsip> r0b0r: I forgot to ignore you for the nazis crack actually. I meant to be polite to mjhszig
[07:20] <r0b0r> Oh ok. Yeah sorry about that. Ignore away.
[07:21] <somsip> mjhszig: so what's the real issue, just in case it is a quick fix that can easily be answered?
[07:23] <mjhszig> File system is 10GB, but now im low on disk space, but i hardly have ANYTHING saved to the file system, all personal files are on dif partitions. ive searched and cannot find what is taking up so much space, or files i can safely remove. my question is- is there a hidden/common location that ubuntu is know for storing junk data?
[07:23] <EriC^^> mjhszig: type df -h , paste it in paste.ubuntu.com
[07:23] <somsip> mjhszig: use du -h and work your way around the directories.
[07:24] <somsip> mjhszig: so, cd /var; du -h .
[07:24] <mjhszig> obviously im not an advanced, so bugs like this big issues for me
[07:24] <EriC^^> mjhszig: also du -shx /* 2>/dev/null
[07:25] <mjhszig> working
[07:26] <somsip> mjhszig: this is a more detailed way to do it: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/653096/howto-free-inode-usage
[07:26] <bmelcher84> anyone to help getting my network card working on ubuntu 14.10?
[07:29] <leeyaa> hello
[07:29] <leeyaa> could you guys help how to resolve this error: install_driver(mysql) failed: Perl API version v5.14.0 of DBD::mysql does not match v5.18.0 at /usr/lib/perl/5.18/DynaLoader.pm line 207.
[07:29] <leeyaa> it started failing after upgrade
[07:34] <cluelessperson> How do I get started learning the basics of ubuntu?
[07:34] <cluelessperson> I've been using it for years, but I have to google EVERYTHING
[07:34] <cluelessperson> I'm not a sysadmin, just develop on them and use them to run applications
[07:35] <piotr__> how to change default route for wlan?
[07:36] <ianorlin> cluelessperson, you can learn some things by lurking in this chat and seeing what solves other peoples problem
[07:36] <cluelessperson> ianorlin, ...
[07:37] <ianorlin> I think everyone has to google stuff eventually but I find once I see someone help somone with a problem documentation can make more sense
[07:37] <cluelessperson> ianorlin,   Is there not a simple resource of "things you must know about ubuntu"
[07:37] <ianorlin> cluelessperson, that depends on how you use it as different users must know is different
[07:39] <mjhszig> hmm well looks like 4.7G is /usr       with 1G /usr/share 2G /usr/lib     but i still dont know where the in these folders the junk is- but im guessing reading through that forum will help me figure it out
[07:40] <platz> is there something like gimp but more lightweight?
[07:40] <mjhszig> somsip, thanks
[07:40] <mjhszig> EriC^^, thanks
[07:40] <mjhszig> r0b0r, thanks
[07:41] <MannerMan> platz: Pinta
[07:41] <platz> MannerMan: looks nice thanks
[07:42] <cluelessperson> holy f** I just got depressed real quick
[07:42] <cluelessperson> mjhszig,   tree ?
[07:42] <gao> x
[07:43] <gao> 有人吗？
[07:43] <cluelessperson> gao,  ?
[07:44] <bazhang> !cn | gao
[07:44] <bazhang> no cursing here cluelessperson
[07:45] <gao> where are u from?
[07:45] <bazhang> gao this is ubuntu support only
[07:46] <bazhang> gao chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:46] <gao> o.o
[07:46] <gao> thx
[07:46] <cluelessperson> gao,  Hell.  I've come for you.
[07:46] <bazhang> cluelessperson, knock off the nonsense
[07:48] <cluelessperson> bazhang, You're nonsense.
[07:49] <mjhszig> cluelessperson, ...srry, tree?
[07:49] <Sacred> hey people
[07:51] <bmelcher84> cant get a wired connection to work on ubuntu 14.10, anyone to help?
[07:53] <bmelcher84> Sacred: hey there
[08:00] <sandieg> hey guys :)
[08:00] <sandieg> how should be the easy way to install, nvidia drivers ?
[08:01] <sandieg> i fell i want to play a game ! :P
[08:02] <sandieg> Good Morning !:)
[08:04] <Sacred> how do we play chess on here
[08:06] <hateball> !nvidia | sandieg
[08:10] <ghhofstetter> hello i am getting an error when trying to install the youtube to mp3 converter in the app center these are the details that I am getting
[08:11] <ghhofstetter> http://pastebin.com/PD0zYHA8
[08:15] <sriram> Need help in obtaining text in odt files with tags in a text file.........??
[08:15] <prohobo> hi, im having trouble with Outlook Exchange Web App, is there any tool i can use on Ubuntu to troubleshoot account locking? (ie. Account Lockout and Management Tool)
[08:17] <rww> prohobo: not that I know of. my usual solution to needing to do Windows admin stuff in Linux is to RDP into a Windows server
[08:17] <prohobo> :\ okay ty
[08:20] <jishjish> hi all, I am new to apache, xampp, and php ( I am a beginner and just trying to learn php). I've setup default xampp in ubuntu 14.10 (64bit) however sql databses is not installed and when I start the process it keeps stopping. Can anyone help?
[08:21] <bekks> !xampp
[08:21] <bazhang> jishjish, use lamp, xampp is not supported
[08:21] <jishjish> ok I will try lamp, is there an exampp support channel?
[08:25] <rhct> Hello
[08:25] <rhct> Can some one help me, I want to change the ssh terminal background color from black to other color, is that possible ?
[08:25] <r0b0r> yep
[08:26] <rhct> r0b0r how we can do that ?
[08:26] <r0b0r> i don't know.
[08:26] <rhct> lol
[08:26] <rhct> lol then who knows
[08:26] <r0b0r> I have done it, I can't remember how
[08:26] <r0b0r> I like green on black so yeah that's what I set it to
[08:27] <r0b0r> but any colors in the CGA sorta color codes works
[08:27] <r0b0r> what terminal?
[08:27] <rhct> it is remote ssh , i am using putty
[08:27] <r0b0r> ok
[08:27] <r0b0r> well that's up to your client then
[08:28] <rhct> hmmmm
[08:28] <r0b0r> you can fuck with the color \ transparency as you see fit
[08:28] <rhct> how i can do that ?
[08:28] <r0b0r> again, I would not know exactly
[08:29] <bekks> rhct: ssh does not have a background color at all. Configure the colors of your terminal instead.
[08:29] <rhct> i did it
[08:29] <rhct> :D
[08:29] <rhct> thanks for guiding me
[08:29] <rhct> lol
[08:29] <r0b0r> ;)
[08:30] <jishjish> ubottu: do you support bitnami lamp? I have downloaded a .run file. I think I need to change the permissions in order to install it but I am not sure.
[08:30] <xtalmath> what is the process for submitting a new software package to get included on ubuntu's package manager?
[08:30] <r0b0r> that is a good question xtalmath
[08:30] <r0b0r> i have no fucking idea
[08:30] <r0b0r> but I am interested in the answer
[08:31] <bazhang> r0b0r, no cursing here please
[08:31] <bekks> jishjish: We dont support other lamp stacks than in the ubuntu repositories. No Bitnami.
[08:31] <bazhang> jishjish, install lamp from the ubuntu software repositories
[08:32] <xtalmath> are there ubuntu developer IRC channels?
[08:32] <bazhang> xtalmath, ever created a PPA?
[08:32] <jishjish> ok bekks bazhang I will install from ubuntu repos.
[08:32] <bazhang> xtalmath, #ubuntu-app-devel
[08:35] <White_Cat_mobile> Hello! I am having difficulty with ubuntu and ufi
[08:35] <xtalmath> r0b0r: I found it I think: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages
[08:35] <bustershin> hi guy is there a way to fix booting? i chose system setup in boot options and now the default boot win 8.1. i installed ubuntu alongside win 8.1
[08:36] <r0b0r> awesome White_Cat_mobile :)
[08:36] <bergelmir> i've set "set -e" in my bash script but one command (check if service x is running) can fail but i don't want the script to exit in this case. what do I need to change? maybe this weird 2>1 thingy?
[08:36] <White_Cat_mobile> I want to convert my ubuntu server to boot via uefi rather than bios
[08:36] <bazhang> asked in #bash yet bergelmir ?
[08:37] <bergelmir> bazhang: nope...
[08:39] <White_Cat> http://askubuntu.com/questions/509423/which-commands-to-convert-a-ubuntu-bios-install-to-efi-uefi-without-boot-repair
[08:40] <jishjish> bazhang: I think previous installed xampp is interfering with my now installed (but not working lamp on ubuntu. How can i enter a terminal command to remove XAMPP?
[08:40] <jishjish> and all dependencies?
[08:41] <bmelcher84> anyone to help me get my network card working in ubuntu?
[08:41] <bmelcher84> have been working on it for hours, no luck
[08:41] <bazhang> jishjish, remove it from wherenver you installed? no idea where that is
[08:42] <bazhang> bmelcher84, what is the chipset for it
[08:42] <jishjish> isn't there like a terminal command for remove?
[08:42] <bmelcher84> what command would tell me that?
[08:42] <bekks> jishjish: Thats a good question for the xampp support.
[08:42] <bazhang> jishjish, not with apt-get since you didnt install it that way
[08:42] <bmelcher84> bazhang: ^
[08:42] <bazhang> bmelcher84, lspci for pci cards lsusb for usb
[08:43] <bazhang> bmelcher84, pastebin either / or .both
[08:43] <bazhang> !paste | bmelcher84
[08:43] <jishjish> bekks is there an xampp support channel?
[08:43] <bazhang> !alis | jishjish
[08:43] <bmelcher84> Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411
[08:43] <bekks> jishjish: I dont know, I never used xampp mysself. Maybe you can use alis to search for it.
[08:43] <bekks> !alis | jishjish
[08:44] <bazhang>  /msg alis list xampp <------ jishjish
[08:44] <bmelcher84> bazhang: sorry, keep forgetting to tag you
[08:44] <bmelcher84> ^
[08:44] <jishjish>  /msg alis list xampp
[08:44] <bazhang> bmelcher84, thats a wifi or a ethernet card
[08:44] <bazhang> jishjish, no spaces before the /
[08:45] <bmelcher84> bazhang: ethernet
[08:45] <bmelcher84> bazhang: pci express gagabit ethernet controller (rev 0c)
[08:45] <bmelcher84> gigabit
[08:46] <bazhang> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man4/rgephy.4freebsd.html bmelcher84
[08:47] <bazhang> !info rgephy
[08:47] <eltigre> er
[08:47] <bazhang> waht
[08:48] <eltigre> I've got a problem with configuring an additional dns server... I've found lots of confusing information, and most of the time it doesn't work
[08:48] <eltigre> I tried resolv.conf and dhclient.conf, but even after restarting network-manager or networking services the dns server isn't used
[08:50] <bmelcher84> bazhang: thanks! but never done that before... hmm
[08:50] <bazhang> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1164932
[08:51] <bazhang> bmelcher84, I seem to think the above may be the bug associated with that
[08:52] <bazhang> !info r8168-dkms
[08:52] <bmelcher84> bazhang: i have the same computer running 14.10 server and it works fine...
[08:52] <bmelcher84> the 14.10 desktop version and 14.04 desktop has had the issue...
[08:52] <bazhang> r8168-dkms <--- try installing and modprobing that bmelcher84
[08:53] <bmelcher84> like apt-get it?
[08:53] <bmelcher84> okay
[08:53] <bazhang> yes
[08:53] <bmelcher84> sry, still a little new
[08:53] <bazhang> we all were at one time
[08:53] <bmelcher84> thanks :)
[08:54] <bmelcher84> bazhang: then modprobe r8168-dkms
[08:54] <bmelcher84> ?
[08:55] <bmelcher84> had a system program problem detected come up
[08:55] <bmelcher84> crash report for the r8168-dkms
[08:55] <bazhang> bmelcher84, is it installled? sorry I have to follow up later, or you can ask others here for assistacne with that
[08:55] <bmelcher84> says it failed to build
[08:56] <bmelcher84> bazhang: thanks
[09:00] <bmelcher84> anyone to help with this here?
[09:12] <ame> For taking backup of my users and groups, what are the files i need to take backup??
[09:14] <bazhang> ame outside of /home ?
[09:16] <White_Cat> so I am stuck with http://askubuntu.com/questions/509423/which-commands-to-convert-a-ubuntu-bios-install-to-efi-uefi-without-boot-repair
[09:16] <White_Cat> I'd welcome any guidence as I am not very proficient with ubuntu :(
[09:19] <OpenTokix> White_Cat: You are booting in bios mode, and want to boos UEFI?
[09:19] <White_Cat> booting with bios mode is a hastle but I can do it
[09:19] <ame> bazhang:No i have more than 30 users and 15 groups on my computer...If i am going to reinstall the server what are the files i need to take backup for restore the users and groups details??
[09:19] <White_Cat> currently ts booted via usb
[09:19] <White_Cat> *its
[09:19] <OpenTokix> White_Cat: That made no sense, bios hansles usb. - What is it you want to accomplish?=
[09:20] <White_Cat> I want the ubuntu-server to boot via UEFI rather than legacy
[09:20] <White_Cat> I have booted it via USB
[09:20] <White_Cat> Its recovery mode or something
[09:21] <White_Cat> I think its called "live cd"
[09:22] <cfhowlett> !uefi | White_Cat
[09:22]  * Exploiter https://worldhacker.org For l33t to l33t , Just Accept Our Self Sign 4098 Bit , The First 4098 ssl bit website ... . for news browse through http://twitter.com/l33t_hacker ... . We never Backdoor Our ssl ... .
[09:22] <White_Cat> I know what UEFI is
[09:23]  * Exploiter https://worldhacker.org For l33t to l33t , Just Accept Our Self Sign 4098 Bit , The First 4098 ssl bit website ... . for news browse through http://twitter.com/l33t_hacker ... . We never Backdoor Our ssl ... .
[09:23] <White_Cat> [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS does return UEFI on live cd
[09:23] <Exploiter> hey guys how are ya
[09:23] <[code_0]> hi all. I am new in linux and if anyone can recommend me an official course which can be recognized in all world. Anyone knows about Linux Foundation Certificate at linuxfoundation.org? How serous they are and so forth?
[09:23] <cfhowlett> Exploiter, stop spamming this channel
[09:24] <cfhowlett> [code_0], they are "serious".
[09:25] <ame> i have more than 30 users and 15 groups on my computer...If i am going to reinstall the server what are the files i need to take backup for restore the users and groups details??
[09:25] <[code_0]> cfhowlett, I mean their certificates worth all over the world
[09:25] <bekks> ame: /etc/group, /etc/passwd and the user directories.
[09:26] <ame> bekka:user directory from /home??
[09:26] <ame> bekks:user directory from /home??
[09:27] <longloop> I have a question.
[09:27] <White_Cat> cfhowlett I am strugling with http://askubuntu.com/questions/509423/which-commands-to-convert-a-ubuntu-bios-install-to-efi-uefi-without-boot-repair
[09:27] <bekks> ame: Whereever your user directories are - take a look at /etc/passwd
[09:28] <longloop> How to make access.log accessible to PHP. Should I add www-data user to adm group [adm is the group of file access.log]. Would it be a security concern?
[09:28] <ame> bekks:Then wat about this /etc/shadow??
[09:28] <cfhowlett> White_Cat, 1.  Haven't yet messed with UEFI, new laptop arrives this week, but ... pre-installed ubuntu.  :)  2. rather than converting, I would think it easier/safer/saner to reinstall in uefi format.  YMMV
[09:28] <bekks> ame: That file contains the passwords of the users.
[09:29] <ame> bekks:We need to backup that also??
[09:29] <bekks> ame: If you want to preserve them, yes.
[09:29] <ame> bekks:then anyother file??
[09:29] <bekks> ame: I'd take a full backup of the system.
[09:31] <ame> bekks:I want to take users,groups and permission applied to the folders
[09:32] <White_Cat> cfhowlett I cant do that
[09:32] <White_Cat> I dont want to loose data
[09:32] <White_Cat> The reason why I need UEFI because I am having issues with disk detection without it
[09:33] <cfhowlett> White_Cat, well, OF COURSE you back up first ...
[09:33] <White_Cat> I cant
[09:33] <White_Cat> it wont detect drives
[09:33] <White_Cat> I dont need a lecture on backups because this is exactly what I told them too
[09:33] <White_Cat> but who listens to me
[09:34] <White_Cat> *sigh*
[09:34] <cfhowlett> White_Cat, I listen!
[09:34] <White_Cat> anyways I am trying to figure out how to make UEFI work
[09:36] <cfhowlett> White_Cat, http://askubuntu.com/questions/84501/how-can-i-change-convert-a-ubuntu-mbr-drive-to-a-gpt-and-make-ubuntu-boot-from     http://mdinescu.com/misc/19-ubuntu-1204-convert-mbr-to-gpt-and-legacy-bios-to-uefi-using-grub2
[09:37] <White_Cat> I dont want to destroy my bootability
[09:37] <White_Cat> disk should be able to retain legacy boot
[09:37] <cfhowlett> White_Cat, "should", yes :)
[09:37] <randomuser85785> hey this is my first Ubuntu install, I need to find out why i have broken packages
[09:38] <randomuser85785> i need to install 32 bit gconf2 package to play some steam games but when i do -
[09:38] <randomuser85785> The following packages have unmet dependencies.  gconf2:i386 : Depends: gconf-service-backend:i386 (= 3.2.6-2ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[09:38] <randomuser85785> how do i not hold broken packages
[09:38] <randomuser85785> since its saying i held them?
[09:39] <White_Cat> cfhowlett I dont want to randomly type those commands :(
[09:40] <cfhowlett> White_Cat, read the man pages for the official guidance
[09:40] <White_Cat> I have
[09:40] <White_Cat> I am stuck
[09:40] <White_Cat> I have already installed files for efi I believe
[09:41] <bekks> randomuser85785: Just install the second missingpackage mentioned, gconf-service-backend:i386
[09:42] <White_Cat> it does contain grub.cfg and grubx64.efi
[09:42]  * randomuser85785 hugs bekks 
[09:42] <randomuser85785> thanks!
[09:46] <White_Cat> when I boot with UEFI I am dropped to a grub> prompt
[09:47] <OpenTokix> White_Cat: If booting with bios works, use that.
[09:47] <OpenTokix> White_Cat: UEFI booting for you gives almost no upside, but as you see - will not work without fiddling around.
[09:47] <cfhowlett> White_Cat, nothing random so far as I can see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Converting_Ubuntu_into_EFI_or_Legacy_mode   <<<OFFICIAL tutorial from ubuntu.
[09:48] <White_Cat> cfhowlett I followed it before
[09:48] <White_Cat> OpenTokix I know but it does have a speed boost
[09:48] <White_Cat> also drives arent detected otherwise
[09:48] <White_Cat> this is a new server so they seem to not care too much about legacy
[09:49] <White_Cat> I am at grub> prompt
[09:49] <cfhowlett> White_Cat, nothing more I can offer.  haven't yet been subjected to efi.
[09:49] <White_Cat> cfhowlett its an experience every mortal should taste
[09:49] <White_Cat> as well as by immortals
[09:49] <cfhowlett> White_Cat, "soon".
[09:50] <White_Cat> Coming soon to a laptop near you... Yeah I gathered... :p
[09:50] <White_Cat> can you suggest me grub commands I can use to see my status OpenTokix?
[09:51] <wiehan> How do I allow my Deluge Web UI to download torrents to ~/Downloads/Incomplete and then move it to ~/Downloads/Complete there seems to be a permission issue, as the torrent shows up as downloading on the web interface but immediately gives a Error
[09:51] <OpenTokix> White_Cat: is it a dell servers?
[09:51] <OpenTokix> White_Cat: I still wonder what you are trying to do. - Is ubuntu installed, or are you trying to get the installer running from usb?
[09:52] <White_Cat> ubuntu is installed
[09:52] <White_Cat> it works fine
[09:52] <White_Cat> with efort I can boot to it through legacy
[09:52] <OpenTokix> White_Cat: So what are you trying to do?
[09:52] <White_Cat> this is an hp server by the way
[09:53] <White_Cat> I am trying to configure it so that it can boot from UEFI
[09:53] <OpenTokix> White_Cat: Why?
[09:53] <White_Cat> because otherwise it doesnt detect drives
[09:53] <OpenTokix> White_Cat: UEFI will give you next to no upside if ubuntu is running.
[09:53] <White_Cat> aside from the raid array
[09:53] <OpenTokix> Weird
[09:53] <White_Cat> weird indeed
[09:53] <White_Cat> I think I am close to resolveing it
[09:53] <White_Cat> I am at a grub> prompt post UEFI boot
[09:54] <White_Cat> and USB isnt in right now so it can see somehting.
[09:54] <Bary90820> So on ubuntu 14.10 some apps won't open
[09:54] <Bary90820> firefox being one
[09:55] <White_Cat> So I have /mnt/boot/efi which has two files grub.cfg and grubx64.efi
[09:55] <White_Cat> so far I have followed http://askubuntu.com/questions/509423/which-commands-to-convert-a-ubuntu-bios-install-to-efi-uefi-without-boot-repair
[09:56] <White_Cat> !seen EriC^^
[09:56] <mozzarella> White_Cat: I've seen EriC^^ for the last time in  at 2015-02-16 03:21:04 -0500, they said "Quit: Leaving".
[09:56] <White_Cat> ****
[09:56] <_0xAX> Hello all, i installed 3.19 kernel on ubuntu 14.10, trying to load with it but getting: Alert! /dev/disk/by-uuid/..... does not exists. /boot/grub/grub.cfg contains the same configuration for 3.19.0 that as in old kernels, besides path to linux/initrd. Is anybody know how to fix it?
[09:58] <White_Cat> r0b0r I replied to you btw
[09:59] <Bary90820> here is a log when firefox wouldn't open
[09:59] <Bary90820> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ysMrndfT
[09:59] <Bary90820> It did actually open when I did sudo firefox
[10:01] <ikonia> Bary90820: it's broken BECAUSE you did sudo firefox
[10:01] <dasjoe> Running firefox as root, what could possibly go wrong?
[10:01] <ikonia> stop using sudo - and fix the permissions on your home directory
[10:01] <Bary90820> ikonia: what's wrong with my home directory
[10:02] <ikonia> Bary90820: the permissions on it are wrong
[10:02] <ikonia> Could not create gnome accelerators directory `/home/aaron/.gnome2/accels': Permission denied
[10:02] <ikonia> see the "Permissions deined" error
[10:02] <czsr> chmod 655 /home/aaron/.gnome2/accels
[10:02] <ikonia> err no
[10:02] <czsr> maybe fix
[10:02] <ikonia> not blindly chmod
[10:03] <ikonia> find out WHY it's wrong
[10:03] <Bary90820> So the permissions should be 655?
[10:03] <ikonia> no
[10:03] <ikonia> look at WHY it's broken
[10:03] <ikonia> don't assume anything
[10:04] <czsr> .gnome2 directory problem
[10:04] <ikonia> once you know whats wrong  you can fix it
[10:04] <ikonia> cliffer: yes, but WHY is it a problem
[10:04] <czsr> create or change perms folder
[10:05] <Bary90820> ikonia: it looks like it can't create the gnome accelerators directory
[10:05] <wiehan> what is the easiest and safest way to host local website on the local network only which only points to various other webUI such as plex and deluge?
[10:05] <czsr> look at folder
[10:06] <jatt> create a html page with links to plex and deluge and host it on apache
[10:07] <ikonia> Bary90820:  I know what - look at WHY
[10:07] <wiehan> jatt what is a good guide to setup an apache server on my local ubuntu server machine that is safe?
[10:07] <ikonia> VictorCL: https://help.ubuntu.com
[10:07] <ikonia> VictorCL: oops, sorry not you
[10:07] <ikonia> wiehan: https://help.ubuntu.com
[10:07] <ikonia> wiehan: official setup docs there
[10:08] <jatt> google 'apache secure ubuntu' lots of hits
[10:08] <ikonia> don't need to google
[10:08] <ikonia> use the official doc
[10:08] <Bary90820> ikonia: i know it can't create /home/aaron/.gnome2/accels because i don't have the right permissions but what permissions should it have
[10:09] <wiehan> ikonia, https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/httpd.html does this look fine to follow?
[10:09] <ikonia> Bary90820: what are the current permissions
[10:09] <ikonia> wiehan: thats a good start
[10:09] <wiehan> ikonia, I mean is that the right one?
[10:09] <czsr> what is best ubuntu version for my high speed server?
[10:09] <svetlana> how do I download help.ubuntu.com to my computer?
[10:09] <ikonia> download it ?
[10:09] <svetlana> for offline use, that is.
[10:09] <svetlana> yes.
[10:09] <ikonia> doesn't firefox have an offline option
[10:09] <ikonia> where it mirrors it ?
[10:09] <Luyin> svetlana: wget
[10:09] <Bary90820> ikonia: drwxr-xr-x   4 root root 4.0K Feb 15 02:22 home00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
[10:09] <White_Cat> http://askubuntu.com/questions/37692/grub-invalid-arch-independent-elf-magic-after-install-on-ssd
[10:09] <Lachezar> Hey all. What is rpcbind, why is it started in three different ways: rpcbind-boot.conf, rpcbind.conf, portmap-wait.conf
[10:09] <White_Cat> possibly that
[10:09] <White_Cat> hmm
[10:10] <svetlana> (erm, I mean download _all_ of it, not only the pages I already visited.)
[10:10] <ikonia> Bary90820: use a pastebin please that didn't come out cleaerly
[10:10] <Bary90820> ok
[10:10] <czsr> ikonia: wget -m http://help.ubuntu.com
[10:10] <svetlana> ok
[10:10] <ikonia> czsr: I don't need it
[10:10] <Bary90820> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=tjA8d0Jd
[10:10] <svetlana> czsr: ok, thanks
[10:10] <czsr> ok
[10:10] <ikonia> Bary90820: it's owned by root
[10:10] <ikonia> Bary90820: thats "home
[10:11] <ikonia> Bary90820: you need your home directory
[10:11] <czsr> look at .gnome and subfolders
[10:11] <Bary90820> So i should chown to to aaron
[10:11] <ikonia> Bary90820: no
[10:11] <ikonia> Bary90820: pay attention
[10:11] <ikonia> Bary90820: look at the PROBLEM directory
[10:11] <ikonia> Bary90820: what are the permissions on that
[10:12] <czsr> Bary90820: look at .gnome and subfolders maybe some folder cant be read or write
[10:13] <Guest74758> How can I run ubuntu on SumSung note3 mobile phone?
[10:13] <ikonia> !touch | Guest74758
[10:13] <Lachezar> !rpcbind
[10:13] <cfhowlett> ikonia, you were right.  everyone and their momma will be hitting the irc with phone questions.
[10:14] <czsr> what is best ubuntu version for my high speed server?
[10:14] <ikonia> czsr: which ever one best meets your needs
[10:14] <Bary90820> ikonia: czsr http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=HZjNHc4u
[10:14] <czsr> 14.04 LTS  ?
[10:14] <ikonia> czsr: if thats the one that best meets your needs - yes
[10:14] <czsr> ok
[10:14] <cfhowlett> !server | czsr
[10:15] <ikonia> Bary90820: show the permissions of /home/arron/.gnome2/accels
[10:16] <trents> Hello
[10:16] <svetlana> hi, trents
[10:16] <Bary90820> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=i9GDQQnQ
[10:16] <czsr> Bary90820: change perms
[10:17] <avenger> I need a little help with remembering a show
[10:17] <ikonia> Bary90820: ok - show the permissions on .gnome2
[10:17] <cfhowlett> avenger, this is ubuntu support.  check your channel
[10:17] <avenger> which cahnnel should I go to?
[10:17] <czsr> avenger: #freenode
[10:17] <cfhowlett> !alis | avenger,
[10:18] <ikonia> avenger: ask in #freenode
[10:18] <ikonia> they can help you find channels
[10:18] <trents_> o Ubuntu Studio Não Tem o atalho Pará screenshot (Shift + Printscreen)
[10:19] <Bary90820> ikonia: sorry there was a mistake with the last pastebin  http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=US3G3RDV
[10:19] <cfhowlett> trents, in English?
[10:19] <trents> Yes
[10:19] <trents> sorry
[10:19] <trents> Ubuntu Studio does not have the shortcut for screenshot (Shift + Printscreen)
[10:19] <ikonia> Bary90820: ok - so it's owned  by root
[10:19] <cfhowlett> trents, so your question is ...
[10:19] <ikonia> Bary90820: it's owned by root as you have launched commands using sudo - you do not need sudo
[10:20] <svetlana> cfhowlett: ?
[10:20] <ikonia> Bary90820: change the owner to your user and group (you can see these permissions in your home directorys root) with the sudo chown -R command
[10:20] <cfhowlett> svetlana, !
[10:20] <svetlana> cfhowlett: he wants that shortcut to work. do you not see the question?
[10:21] <svetlana> trents: did it work before?
[10:23] <trents> Ubuntu Studio is a distro aimed to actually programmers or is it better to use the normal Ubuntu?
[10:23] <Bary90820> ikonia: I'm not sure if it ran correctly http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=CAqADPnB
[10:23] <Bary90820> firefox does open now tho
[10:24] <cfhowlett> trents, your choice.
[10:24] <ikonia> Bary90820: you just changed your full home directory, but that should work
[10:24] <ikonia> trents: ubuntu studio is music/audio production
[10:24] <cfhowlett> trents, note: plain vanilla ubuntu will be different from ubuntustudio
[10:25] <ikonia> trents: or film production
[10:25] <Bary90820> ikonia: there is still one program that won't open the gui app for samba
[10:26] <ikonia> Bary90820: what gui app ?
[10:26] <Bary90820> samba
[10:26] <Bary90820> the one from the software center
[10:26] <ikonia> thats not an application name
[10:26] <ikonia> what is the name of the application you are trying to open
[10:27] <Bary90820> ikonia: the name is samba
[10:27] <ikonia> Bary90820: that is not a gui
[10:27] <ikonia> "samba" is  not a gui
[10:28] <ikonia> unless you can provide more details on what it is you are doing
[10:29] <Bary90820> ikonia: this app
[10:29] <Bary90820> http://www.krizna.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/config-samba-ubuntu12-04.png
[10:29] <Bary90820> it's called samba in the software center
[10:30] <ikonia> how are you launching it ?
[10:30] <Bary90820> i've used it in the past
[10:30] <ikonia> how are you launching it ?
[10:30] <Bary90820> I am launching it from the unity launcher
[10:30] <ikonia> I don't know about that application
[10:30] <ikonia> so can't comment
[10:31] <Shoe14> updog
[10:31] <White_Cat> This is my drive makeup: http://pastebin.com/eJXKC61Q
[10:31] <Bary90820> I just want it to open
[10:31] <Bary90820> ikonia:
[10:31] <White_Cat> What would be the equavalent of sda1 and sda3 from here? http://askubuntu.com/questions/37692/grub-invalid-arch-independent-elf-magic-after-install-on-ssd
[10:42] <uf> Exetel sucks
[10:42] <uf> there, I said it
[10:43] <ikonia> ?
[10:43] <uf> croppa_ uses Exetel
[10:44] <ikonia> uf: croppa_ has not said a word
[10:44] <ikonia> are you sure you're in the right channel ?
[10:44] <ikonia> ooh you mean the host
[10:44] <ikonia> if it continues to drop/connect it will get dealt wiith
[10:47] <iamanedgecutter> OK, I just saw the Ubuntu for phone thing on the landing page, but did Ubuntu already have a distribution for phones?
[10:48] <ikonia> they page shows where you can get it from
[10:49] <iamanedgecutter> And I also heard that Ubuntu 15.04 is in alpha
[10:49] <ikonia> correct
[10:49] <ikonia> it's discussed in the channel #ubuntu+1
[10:54] <iamanedgecutter> How long will Ubuntu 15.04 be in the alpha stage for?
[10:54] <ikonia> until it's ready
[10:54] <ikonia> it's discussed in #ubuntu+1
[10:55] <White_Cat_> ikonia isnt it until its ready + each week people ask for it?
[10:55] <iamanedgecutter> OK, right now, Ubuntu 15.04 looks a lot like Ubuntu 14.04. Of course, they have not updated Unity yet
[10:57] <naquad> hi
[10:57] <svetlana> hello
[10:57] <naquad> wha't the name of the service that runs sysv scripts?
[10:57] <naquad> i mean systemd unit
[10:57] <svetlana> sysv-init probably as a guess, but sysv ≠ systemd
[10:58] <k1l> !15.04 | iamanedgecutter
[10:58] <iamanedgecutter> Yeah, that is what I heard. I am thinking this will be the "Windows 10" of Ubuntu history
[11:01] <iamanedgecutter> What is a vervet?
[11:01] <ikonia> in what context ?
[11:01] <iamanedgecutter> The animal
[11:01] <ikonia> it's nothing to do with this channel
[11:01] <k1l> iamanedgecutter: its a monkey
[11:01] <ikonia> use the internet to look up animals
[11:01] <Lachezar> ikonia: It might be a Vitruous Verver version of Ubuntu :)
[11:02] <iamanedgecutter> Ooh, OK
[11:02]  * Lachezar sighs.
[11:02] <k1l> iamanedgecutter: this channel is for tehcnical suppor tonly. so for 15.04 questions please see #ubuntu+1 and for chitchat please see #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:02] <Lachezar> Virtuous Vervet
[11:03] <iamanedgecutter> Can this command be run in a BASH shell script? :(){ :|: & };:
[11:03] <ikonia> iamanedgecutter: stop trying to fork bombs
[11:03] <ikonia> it's not funny
[11:04] <ikonia> no-one should try that command
[11:04] <bruno-test> /
[11:04]  * bruno-test 
[11:05] <uf> someone fork bombed my terminal at univeristy
[11:05] <uf> when I left my terminal unattended
[11:05] <uf> I came back and my computer was unresponsive
[11:13] <sandieg> Hi! Good Morning, once again. I'm having a little issue with my 3D gaming card , ive installed nvidia-current ! from apt-get package manager without sucess , the computer is in fallback mode, what can be done ?
[11:14] <sandieg> cucu...
[11:14] <sandieg> !nvidia driver
[11:15] <sandieg> $ lspci | grep VGA
[11:15] <sandieg> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation Device 13d7 (rev a1
[11:16] <ikonia> first step is to look at the xorg log and make sure it's loading the nvidia x module
[11:16] <ikonia> you can verify this by looking in the xorg.conf file to make sure "nvidia" is listed as the driver it's trying to load
[11:18] <sandieg> ok tks
[11:18] <sandieg> brb
[11:19] <sandieg> !xorg.conf
[11:20] <sandieg> hehe
[11:20] <sandieg> :)
[11:20] <sandieg> i dont have it :P
[11:20] <sandieg> is there any automatic way to do it ?
[11:20] <sandieg> like ati does?
[11:20] <somsip> sandieg: possibly run nvidia-settings and get it to generate one? Didn't think it was needed though
[11:21] <Coolkid_3245> Hello, does anyone know how to share data from a freshly formatted ubuntu computer to a win8.1 laptop with samba? I tried this guide (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20Create%20a%20Network%20Share%20Via%20Samba%20Via%20CLI%20(Command-line%20interface/Linux%20Terminal)%20-%20Uncomplicated,%20Simple%20and%20Brief%20Way!) but it requires the computer to be online, how do I install the samba package without internet? than
[11:22] <ikonia> !aptoncd | Coolkid_3245
[11:46] <DReynolds> hi all. Hoping I can get some help. I installed xubuntu-desktop to try xfce, its ruining things. I've removed it again to try to get back to unity. It will not stop setting Xubuntu as the default in the login screen. Everytime I lock the computer it kicks back to the login screen rather than the lock screen. I often have to login 2-3 times as I log in, it flashes the desktop and then kicks back to blackscreen and then login again
[11:47] <jatt> do you have plymouth-theme-xubuntu* installed
[11:48] <DReynolds> how do i find that out? autocomplete in terminal gives me just plymouth, plymothhd and plymouth-upstart-bridge
[11:49] <jatt> dpkg -l | grep plymouth-theme-xubuntu
[11:50] <Paracelsus> LIST
[11:50] <DReynolds> ~: dpkg -l | grep plymouth-theme-xubuntu >i  plymouth-theme-xubuntu-logo 14.04.2 all  graphical boot animation and logger - xubuntu-logo theme >> ii  plymouth-theme-xubuntu-text 14.04.2 all   graphical boot animation and logger - xubuntu-text theme
[11:50] <DReynolds> so i guess thats yes
[11:51] <boichev> Can someone point me to a tutorial where I can see how to build a separate DEB package for each php module ? Like in the repos but I want to have different packages for two php versions.
[11:53] <jatt> remove them, not sure what unity uses for splash/login, does it also use plymouth?
[11:54] <jatt> how did you remove xubuntu? you still have xfce packages lying around
[11:54] <DReynolds> probably do. I did apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop (as i installed it with that)
[11:55] <fidel_> DReynolds: not sure if the meta-package xubuntu-desktop works for uninstalling
[11:56] <jatt> does dpkg -l | grep xfce
[11:56] <jatt> show lots of packages?
[11:57] <fidel_> apart from that - try setting your desired login-manager first - i.e. lightdm - which is default on ubuntu i afaik ( sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm)
[11:57] <OerHeks> boichev, easy, see http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/packaging-new-software.html
[11:57] <fidel_> and the login-manager should remember your last choosen session afaik
[11:58] <DReynolds> dpkg -l grep xfce
[11:58] <DReynolds> oops, wrong place :P
[12:02] <White_Cat> hello
[12:08] <jagmeet> hello every one I am using ubuntu 14.04 and It is working fine on normal operations but when I copy or move data from one place to another then it freezes and stop working !! While pc working fine on windows os. My friend using the ubuntu experienced same what is the reason behind this?
[12:13] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:16] <memoryleak> I'm using Ubuntu 14.10 Desktop and I have the issues that the system freezes on certain situations: When using Thunar File Manager and right clicking on a folder, the system freezes. Only a hard reset (button on the case) works here. This is reproduceable. The other time is when I'm playing media with Totem or VLC. What steps do you recommend to find the root cause of this issue?
[12:16] <bazhang> memoryleak, thunar with ubuntu? why not nautilus
[12:17] <memoryleak> I just wanted to give it a try
[12:17] <bazhang> memoryleak, what happens with mplayer
[12:18] <jatt> thunar works fine in 14.10
[12:18] <White_Cat> I still have the same problem
[12:18] <White_Cat> I get grub> prompt and nothing else
[12:18] <White_Cat> does no one know what to do with this?
[12:19] <White_Cat> !seen EriC^^
[12:19] <memoryleak> bazhang: I couldn't narrow down the issue to a specific applicaiton. I have the freezes also when I'm playing back a YouTube / Facebook video with firefox/chromium
[12:19] <jatt> probably a video driver issue
[12:20] <bazhang> White_Cat, did you update-grub
[12:20] <memoryleak> bazhang, jatt: The freezes occour occasionally when playing back media. The fact I could reproduce it with Thunar is the reason why I have it still installed.
[12:21] <White_Cat> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=124213
[12:21] <bazhang> memoryleak, I am trying to narrow down the issues, trying another video player would be a first step towards that, as would using the default nautilus
[12:21] <White_Cat> bazhang how would I achieve that
[12:21] <White_Cat> it gives an error
[12:21] <White_Cat> cant find command update-grub
[12:22] <bazhang> White_Cat, why link the arch wiki
[12:22] <k1l> White_Cat: what ubuntu is that exactly?
[12:22] <White_Cat> ubuntu-server 14.04
[12:22] <jatt> after it freezes and reboot, check the /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old for errors
[12:22] <White_Cat> bazhang a mistake
[12:22] <memoryleak> bazhang, the problem with the media playpack is that I can't reproduce it, I need to wait for it to happen and until now I had it with Totem, VLC, HTML5 playback with Chromium and Flash Playback with Firefox.
[12:22] <k1l> White_Cat: and what kind of setup is that machine?
[12:23] <White_Cat> k1l it has a single ubuntu server
[12:23] <White_Cat> I am trying to make it work with efi
[12:23] <memoryleak> bazhang, and after it happens, I don't know where to look for error messages which indacte why it was frozen
[12:23] <bazhang> memoryleak, what are the system specs re: ram, video card, which drivers how installed
[12:23] <White_Cat> I ran the commands from http://askubuntu.com/questions/509423/which-commands-to-convert-a-ubuntu-bios-install-to-efi-uefi-without-boot-repair so far
[12:23] <k1l> White_Cat: what are you trying to do?  that should not be a big task for the enduser.
[12:24] <White_Cat> k1l all I want is to convert boot from legacy to efi
[12:24] <White_Cat> without loosing data
[12:24] <jatt> if you had the issue with lots of different applications it points to a problem in the video drivers and not in the applications
[12:25] <k1l> White_Cat: ok, that is not my area
[12:26] <White_Cat> k1l only thing I need to do i think is to point grub to the right config file
[12:32] <memoryleak> bazhang: http://pastie.org/9953868 is the list of components
[12:33] <memoryleak> I have installed the nVidia Drivers using the Ubuntu Software 3rd party driver application
[12:33] <jatt> check whether you get the same problem with the open source drivers
[12:33] <bazhang> memoryleak, please point any future helpers to that, I am a bith busy and have to step away for a few, my apologies
[12:33] <mofi> hi all
[12:42] <White_Cat> is antone here any good with grub
[12:42] <White_Cat> I am at grub prompt and I dont know what to do
[12:43] <svetlana> ask
[12:43] <svetlana> i'm about to disappear,but i'm sure plenty helpful people here will offer you help
[12:44] <mofi> hi i have a problem installing any app in ubuntu plz help
[12:44] <k1l> mofi: what error do you get? please show it in a pastebin
[12:45] <White_Cat> well I have grub prompt
[12:45] <White_Cat> cannot boot
[12:45] <White_Cat> I am unsure  what more I can say
[12:45] <White_Cat> I am tyring to get efi to work
[12:45] <White_Cat> I think it cannot find the cfg file
[12:45] <k1l> White_Cat: you need to tell, that you want to convert from bios boot to uefi boot.
[12:45] <mofi> ok @kll
[12:45] <mofi> its" hspa-modem-dkms"
[12:46] <mofi> im very troubled can't install any app
[12:46] <White_Cat> k1l right
[12:48] <k1l> !paste | mofi
[12:49] <k1l> mofi: put the errormessage there
[12:50] <White_Cat> k1l who should I ask my grub issue
[12:50] <White_Cat> I have been trying to find a person for several hours now
[12:55] <k1l> White_Cat: describe your exact issue with most details and someone who knows will answer. you could try askubuntu or ubuntuforums, too
[12:56] <czsr> !kernel
[12:57] <White_Cat> k1l I am not sure what to ask
[12:57] <White_Cat> I am confused
[12:57] <cfhowlett> !details | White_Cat he's asking for the details
[12:58] <White_Cat> I have been trying to find a person for several hours now[2015-02-16, 13:45:34] <k1l> White_Cat: you need to tell, that you want to convert from bios boot to uefi boot.
[12:58] <White_Cat> I have been trying to find a person for several hours now[2015-02-16, 13:45:34] <k1l> White_Cat: you need to tell, that you want to convert from bios boot to uefi boot.I ran the commands from http://askubuntu.com/questions/509423/which-commands-to-convert-a-ubuntu-bios-install-to-efi-uefi-without-boot-repair so far
[12:59] <White_Cat> cfhowlett I already explained it to him and you
[13:00] <cfhowlett> White_Cat, ummm, hours ago?  among the hundreds of thousands of threads since?  You DO know you one of several people here at any given time, yes?>
[13:00] <k1l> White_Cat: its not about me helping you. i already said that this issue is not my area. but its about you describing the issue that good, so others reading here could help you.
[13:00] <White_Cat> Can I boot manually with grub?
[13:01] <cfhowlett> White_Cat, you can depending on where it stops in the boot process before you get the grub prompt.
[13:04] <White_Cat_> its difficult enough to sit in this hot server room with all the fans :(
[13:05] <White_Cat_> its probably 2-3 lines of commands
[13:05] <White_Cat_> for the love of madness :(
[13:06] <cfhowlett> White_Cat_, I suspect the process is a bit different for efi systems but: http://members.iinet.net/~herman546/p20/GRUB2%20How%20To%20Boot%20From%20CLI%20Mode.html#How_To_Boot_An_Operating_System_Directly
[13:07] <White_Cat_> I am confusing myself more :(
[13:09] <White_Cat_> that gets me a general protection exception
[13:09] <White_Cat_> this cant be this hard
[13:10] <BluesKaj> White_Cat_, normally grub will appear if the left shift key is held down immediately after the BIOS screen
[13:11] <BluesKaj> White_Cat_, if that's what you're looking for
[13:11] <White_Cat_> I see grub
[13:11] <White_Cat_> I cant boot beyond that
[13:11] <White_Cat_> I dont know what isnt working
[13:12] <BluesKaj> no recovery kernels available?
[13:12] <White_Cat_> I am unsure what I need to do. I dont know whats broken
[13:12] <White_Cat_> the system does boot fine on legacy mode
[13:12] <White_Cat_> I am tyring to convert that to uefi
[13:12] <White_Cat_> uwfi boot drops me to a grub> prmpt
[13:12] <White_Cat_> minimal mash like line editing
[13:13] <White_Cat_> *bash
[13:13] <trijntje> I have this frustrating problem: I want to open files with the .phb extension with the program seaview, and files with the .cfg extension with gedit. However, if I set one of the extensions to gedit, they are both opened by gedit, and the same with seaview, how can I stop this stupid behaviour?
[13:15] <dns53> White_Cat_ you have a grub prompt which is good, so you have the uefi first stage there
[13:16] <BluesKaj> ok , then you need to change the partition table from msdos to GPT for starters, White_Cat_ , http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/730440-using-the-new-guid-partition-table-in-linux-good-bye-ancient-mbr-
[13:17] <White_Cat_> dns53 I suspected that too
[13:17] <White_Cat_> let me see that
[13:17] <White_Cat_> hmm
[13:17] <White_Cat_> http://pastebin.com/eJXKC61Q
[13:17] <White_Cat_> this is how my partitions look like
[13:18] <White_Cat_> is it bad?
[13:18] <White_Cat_> I dont want to loose data
[13:19] <cfhowlett> White_Cat_, assume the data *will* be lost and make a backup.  then proceed
[13:19] <White_Cat_> I cannot
[13:19] <White_Cat_> I told this to you 5 times today
[13:19] <cfhowlett> White_Cat_, no one *wants* to loose data
[13:19] <OerHeks> "i don't want to loose data" is invalid, always have a backup.
[13:19] <choki> Hello, can someone help me please? I just installed ubuntu on my hp compaq 6715s but the sound doesnt work. I hear nothing. :(
[13:19] <White_Cat_> The entre point is that the computer cannot see new drives
[13:19] <cfhowlett> White_Cat_, if you can't backup your data, then you really might want to rethink your strategy
[13:19] <White_Cat_> that is the entire reason why I am trying to switch to uefi
[13:19] <cfhowlett> !sound | choki
[13:19] <White_Cat_> cfhowlett I lack options
[13:20] <White_Cat_> you really love spamming bot commnds, dont you
[13:20] <cfhowlett> White_Cat_, not true.  leave things as they are until you gather more information.
[13:20] <choki> cfhowlett: thank you
[13:20] <White_Cat_> Blue11 can we ralk in pm?
[13:20] <cfhowlett> choki, happy2help
[13:20] <White_Cat_> *talk
[13:20] <BluesKaj> the word is lose data not loose
[13:20] <White_Cat_> My head is coming loose :p
[13:21] <BluesKaj> White_Cat_, why do you need uefi if legacy works ?
[13:21] <White_Cat_> yes
[13:21] <White_Cat_> because uefi detects drives
[13:22] <White_Cat_> legacy isnt working well
[13:22] <White_Cat_> I know its weird but thats what I am dealing with
[13:22] <BluesKaj> legacy isn't mounting drives in a raid ?
[13:22] <White_Cat_> raid works fine
[13:22] <White_Cat_> the extra backup isnt detected
[13:23] <White_Cat_> its a new hp server
[13:23] <White_Cat_> the bios is like a brand new os :(
[13:23] <dns53>  White_Cat_ can you move your /boot to the uefi partition?
[13:24] <BluesKaj> White_Cat_, what kind of connection to the backup , sata ?
[13:24] <White_Cat_> dns53 I am currentlu on grub> partition
[13:24] <dns53> White_Cat_ i don't think uefi can deal with big partitions so it is best to have a seperate /boot
[13:24] <White_Cat_> I can boot to live cd if you like
[13:24] <White_Cat_> grub does list the folders
[13:24] <White_Cat_> with ls
[13:25] <White_Cat_> BluesKaj yeah it is sata
[13:26] <White_Cat_> BluesKaj is there a way to test if its a grub or .cfg issue
[13:26] <White_Cat_> I suspect its a .cfg issue
[13:26] <OerHeks> White_Cat_, 33Is that backup disk GPT by any chance?3
[13:26] <White_Cat_> backup disk isnt formatted probably
[13:26] <dns53> grub-script-check
[13:27] <White_Cat_> it cannot find that command dns53
[13:27] <White_Cat_> the commands I ran so far are: http://askubuntu.com/questions/509423/which-commands-to-convert-a-ubuntu-bios-install-to-efi-uefi-without-boot-repair
[13:27] <White_Cat_> the ones in answer
[13:28] <White_Cat_> I have /mnt/boot/efi which has two files grub.cfg and grubx64.efi
[13:28] <White_Cat_> I think I run grubx64.efi which cannot find the config? or the config is trash maybe
[13:29] <OerHeks> Why not use bootrepair?
[13:31] <dns53> White_Cat_ grub starts searching for a partition with the rest of grub. if it can't find it you have a problem. i think you may be able to move grub to the uefi partition, if not maybe resize the uefi partition and create a boot?
[13:32] <choki> cfhowlett: i now tried the steps in your links but when i try  `sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel ` i still cant hear anything. :((
[13:32] <cfhowlett> choki, do you get headphone sound?
[13:34] <White_Cat_> dns53 my uefi partition is like 500mb large
[13:34] <White_Cat_> what command do I need to run?
[13:34] <White_Cat_> I am very lost
[13:35] <Semiautomatic> yo!
[13:35] <choki> cfhowlett: no *meow*
[13:36] <cfhowlett> choki, dang.  confirm: no sound AT ALL, EVER?
[13:37] <choki> cfhowlett: nothing. i may try oss?
[13:37] <cfhowlett> choki, couldn't be any worse = go for it
[13:38] <White_Cat> dns53 sorry about tht
[13:38] <White_Cat> am back
[13:39] <dns53> White_Cat_ well the first thing i would try booting from a live cd and just copy the /boot files to your uefi, at least the kernel and uimage
[13:39] <dns53> White_Cat_ if you have the kernel there are other options apart from grub
[13:41] <Dinosaurio> Is it true that Ubuntu uses children to program its code?
[13:42] <k1l> Dinosaurio: stop trolling in here. you got kicked some times already for that
[13:43] <cfhowlett> Dinosaurio  FUD.  Silly FUD at that.   Troll somewhere else
[13:43] <White_Cat> dns53 okay
[13:44] <White_Cat> booting from live cd
[13:44] <Dinosaurio> cfhowlett: I haven't insulted you
[13:49] <deanoman123456> Hi, I'm new to Ubuntu and am having an issue with Ubuntu upon start up, Details: http://pastebin.com/GJZccpaW     any help would be great :D
[13:49] <cfhowlett> deanoman123456, and after 2 minutes stuff just starts working OK?
[13:50] <deanoman123456> yep after 2 mins its fine
[13:52] <nabn> hi. I use synapse launcher. I use Shift+Space as a shortcut to launch it, instead of the default (Ctrl+space). But on every reboot, the shortcut gets reset to default. What could be the cause of this?
[13:52] <nabn> This was not the case a couple weeks back. I am not sure what I did that could have changed this
[13:52] <jirido> Hi Guys and girls.. Does anyone here know a way to add the info in a ovpn file to networkmanager without all copy and make crt and ca files?
[13:53] <jirido>  some script maybe?
[13:54] <EzeQL> hi, what does ":$" mean in bash?
[13:55] <deanoman123456> any advice?
[13:55] <cfhowlett> deanoman123456, nothing leaps to mind, sorry
[13:55] <dns53> EzeQL : is used to separate your host name and the rest of the path, $ indicates a normal user (# is used to indicate root)
[13:55] <deanoman123456> ok thx, I'll see if someone else reads it
[13:56] <yacc> Any idea if Ubuntu (14.04LTS) is capable of automatically switching between A2DP (music playing, but no mic)  and HSV (well, the music sounds like a phone, but the mic works)?
[13:56] <sahilsk> greetings. I"m looking for a way to stop traffic on a virtual interface for 10.* series ip. Is it possible?
[13:57] <yacc> Failing support for autoswitching, any way to quickly switch manually (opening the audiosettings is kind of heavy weight on every incoming call)
[13:57] <EzeQL> dns53, is there any diff between: user:~:$ and user:~$
[13:57] <dns53> yacc maybe, have you tried using pavucontrol ?
[13:57] <White_Cat> dns53 yeah
[13:58] <White_Cat> sorry abou that
[13:58] <White_Cat> I shouldnt have conneciton issues anymore
[13:58] <OerHeks> deanoman123456, might be a bios issue, legacy-usb option ?
[13:59] <deanoman123456> OerHeks; I'll check my BIOS settings on next reboot :D thx
[13:59] <deanoman123456> OerHeks; Should I check if it is On or Off?
[14:00] <dns53> EzeQL you can change how your prompt looks
[14:00] <yacc> dns53: well, and now as an indicator ;) Or at least commandline invocations so I can script it somehow, ...
[14:00] <yacc> My guess would be, if nothing else helps, I can still detect Hangouts via specific network traffic spikes, ..
[14:02] <OerHeks> deanom...
[14:02]  * yacc thinks that Firefox should be renamed CrashFox.
[14:03] <nabn> repost: hi. I use synapse launcher. I use Shift+Space as a shortcut to launch it, instead of the default (Ctrl+space). But on every reboot, the shortcut gets reset to default. What could be the cause of this?
[14:04] <White_Cat> !seen EriC^^
[14:05] <White_Cat> Blue11 do you have suggestions for me?
[14:07] <west536457640> morning all, I need a scrolling ticker to display tweets on my ubuntu desktop, any suggestions for apps I can look into?
[14:09] <cjeon> Hello People!
[14:10] <spitzi> Argh. I got this env var "LC_PAPER" which I want to get rid of permanently and don't know how. That is, I have no idea where it is set every time a shell starts.
[14:11] <somsip> spitzi: LC_PAGER?
[14:11] <spitzi> somsip: nope, LC_PAPER. And same goes for LC_MONETARY, LC_IDENTIFICATION, and others. Go away!
[14:12] <somsip> spitzi: well, I'd found a page with an answer for you, but forget that now
[14:15] <spitzi> sosby: Eh?
[14:15] <spitzi> somsip: Eh? "Go away" was meant at the env vars.
[14:16] <cfhowlett>  ... :P
[14:18] <quekrul> elo
[14:18] <quekrul> siema
[14:18] <quekrul> co tam?
[14:19] <cfhowlett> quekrul, english, please?
[14:19] <somsip> !pl | quekrul
[14:19] <quekrul> Hi
[14:19] <quekrul> whazzup?
[14:19] <bazhang> thats indonesian
[14:19] <spitzi> So no idea?
[14:19] <cfhowlett> I don't know WHAT that is!
[14:19] <quekrul> I'm a king polish rap.
[14:20] <somsip> bazhang: WHS
[14:20] <bazhang> !oot | quekrul
[14:20] <bazhang> whoopsie
[14:20] <cfhowlett> quekrul, off_topic.  find a different channel
[14:20] <cfhowlett> !ot | quekrul
[14:20] <quekrul> Co tam ziomeczki?
[14:20] <BluesKaj> polish rap, that must be weird :)
[14:20] <cfhowlett> one can only imagine ...
[14:21] <quekrul> You can help me?
[14:21] <tomodachi> quekrul: spoko a u ciebie?
[14:21] <quekrul> Lekcje mam ziomeczki
[14:21] <cfhowlett> quekrul, ask ubuntu questions only.
[14:21] <quekrul> ale nuda ;/
[14:21] <BluesKaj> !pl | quekrul
[14:21] <quekrul> #ubuntu-pl.
[14:21] <Li> is it possible to install stuff like curl with one line apt-get comamnd without having to go through satisfying all dependencies one by one?
[14:21] <quekrul> Hejka
[14:22] <adam2> siema
[14:22] <quekrul> Jak wejść na polski kanał?
[14:22] <damian_> Siema
[14:22] <OerHeks> Li , sure, sudo apt-get install curl -y
[14:22] <quekrul> Elo
[14:22] <adam2> normalnie
[14:22] <damian_> przejmuje ten kanał
[14:23] <adam2> twoj stary
[14:23] <tomodachi> quekrul: napisz  /join #ubuntu-pl
[14:23] <quekrul> twoja stara
[14:23] <somsip> bazhang: do you have your ops stick handy?
[14:23] <damian_>  /join #ubuntu-pl
[14:23] <adam2> polczaki
[14:23] <Fesni> Ozi
[14:23] <Fesni> Kopara, niezdasz!!!
[14:23] <Li> OerHeks: that is not possible
[14:23] <Li> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[14:23] <Li> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[14:24] <cfhowlett> !aptlock | Li
[14:24] <OerHeks> samian adam2 quekrul please join #ubuntu-pl fesni too
[14:24] <adam2> tY BAJOR
[14:24] <OerHeks> all same ip adress, kids
[14:24] <cfhowlett> OerHeks, that's exactly what I was thinking!
[14:25] <Kopera> school :)\
[14:25] <Li> yes ubottu that works ... thank you
[14:25] <CoreSaint> ubuntu has the weirdest service management ever
[14:25] <Chelsea_Jurgens> Hi, I am having issues with my wifi. As of this morning, it stays connected for a few seconds, minutes, and then drops me. Any idea how to fix?
[14:26] <OerHeks> Li, maybe you have sofwarecenter & terminal open ..
[14:26] <quekrul> elo
[14:26] <quekrul> Noszi
[14:26] <Kopera> can u kick them ?
[14:26] <adam2> hi man
[14:26] <quekrul> Co tam koledzy?
[14:26] <somsip> !ops | can the polish contigent be kicked please
[14:27] <pawel_> yo
[14:27] <quekrul> witam
[14:27] <damian_> witam
[14:27] <quekrul> Tomek film ogląda
[14:27] <Fesni> cześć
[14:27] <Kopera> DOBRANOC
[14:27] <Li> OerHeks: terminal yes but not the software center .. anyway the issue is solved ... thank you :)
[14:30] <CoreSaint> is ubuntu 14.10 using the same upstart init system?
[14:30] <BluesKaj> CoreSaint, as defasult yes
[14:32] <White_Cat> BluesKaj any suggestions for me?
[14:32] <White_Cat> I may have lost it doing connect/disconnect
[14:33] <BluesKaj> White_Cat, have you setup the bootsequence in the uefi/bios
[14:36] <White_Cat> BluesKaj I dont know
[14:36] <White_Cat> I am trying to reinstall efi
[14:36] <White_Cat> I am clueless
[14:37] <hikenboot> hi the live cd I am bulding dies after nm-dispatcher: Dispatcher action 'change' for eth0 is there any way to get verbose logging to occur to the console (since it hangs before giving me root access)..
[14:38] <BluesKaj> White_Cat,  perhaps this will help http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2138001/uefi-option-bios.html
[14:39] <White_Cat> Blue11 all I get was a grub prompt
[14:39] <White_Cat> I am pretty sure its post bios
[14:39] <White_Cat> rather grub doesnt know where the os is
[14:39] <White_Cat> thats my guess
[14:40] <BluesKaj> yes that's why I posted the above url , it explains what to setup and what to leave alone
[14:41] <akaWolf> hello! which is current status of Compiz in latest Ubuntu?
[14:42] <White_Cat> Blue11 I am confused
[14:42] <White_Cat> what am I trying to find with this?
[14:42] <White_Cat> I dont want to disable uefi
[14:44] <rumbalila> --connect -c freenode
[14:46] <BluesKaj> White_Cat, my nick is BluesKaj , I'm not sure what to tell you since resetting the system to uefi boot means chjanging th epartition table from msdos to GPT , and I'm not sure this can be accomplished without having to back up all your data and reinstalling the OS...that's asmuch as I can help
[14:47] <Spawny> my advise would be to back up everything
[14:48] <Scrivener> Hey guys. I have a Levono Thinkpad T430, and connect it through the dock to a 3-display setup (laptop and 2 external monitors). Until recently, it was working flawlessly. Recently, I accidentally hit the Super + P combination which, as far as I know, messes with resolution. This drove my displays nuts, and now my 2 external monitors are impossible to set back to their proper resolution. Any attempts to in the Displays settings yields the erro
[14:48] <Scrivener> r "GDBus.Error:org.gtk.GDBus.UnmappedGError.Quark._gnome_2drr_2derror_2dquark.Code2: could not set the configuration for CRTC 65". Hitting Super + P did not reverse the damage, either. And xrandr didn't help either. How can I restore the proper resolution to my external displays?
[14:48] <Spawny> anyone ever run ubuntu on a usb stick? (my laptop hard drive is fried)
[14:48] <somsip> !persistent | Spawny
[14:48] <White_Cat> Blue11 what command do I use to check if it is gpt?
[14:48] <col7> Why does Ubuntu start up saying "A system problem was detected?" I read online that if you disable crash reporter that this will no longer pop up, but then we can't really help the developers either correct things if we do this; Though I'm not even really sure what the problem is, as everything seems to be working fine. I had this problem back when I used Xubuntu.
[14:49] <White_Cat> My partitions are like this: http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2138001/uefi-option-bios.html
[14:50] <ObrienDave> Spawny, easy enough to do. boot live DVD install to USB stick. done deal
[14:50] <CoreSaint> White_Cat: parted -l
[14:50] <CoreSaint> White_Cat: look at "partition table:{gpt, msdos, etc}"
[14:51] <Spawny> ObrienDave there is an easier way there is a rogram that installs linux to a pendrive while in winblows (pendrive linux installer)
[14:51] <Spawny> rogram = program
[14:52] <kidx> hello
[14:52] <kidx> I need help
[14:52] <cuppa_coffee> anybody know why the games i had installed via steam seem to have uninstalled themselves?
[14:52] <cfhowlett> !ask | kidx
[14:52] <White_Cat> so would ext4 be gpt?
[14:52] <kidx> I cant get the omega drivers to install
[14:53] <kidx> and if i do they dont work right
[14:53] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, *MUST* *bite* *tounge*
[14:53] <cfhowlett> cuppa_coffee, I've seen that as well .... best to ask the steam/valve folk about it.
[14:53] <CoreSaint> White_Cat: ext4 is just a file system, it can be used on gpt as well as on msdos partition table
[14:53] <cuppa_coffee> cfhowlett, where can i do that?
[14:54] <cfhowlett> cuppa_coffee, www.steampowered.com        is your starting place
[14:54] <OerHeks> maybe in #valve
[14:54] <CoreSaint> White_Cat: partition table is just a way of indexing partition on the hard drive, gpt is the newer one
[14:55] <cuppa_coffee> OerHeks, that channel doesn exist
[14:55] <Spawny> cuppa_coffee that was a website not a channel
[14:55] <Diplomat> hey guys, I have a quick squid proxy related question. I have this "acl HOMEIP src 85.253.xx.xx http_access allow HOMEIP http_access deny all" in my squid proxy config, but for some reason it still blocks me. Any ideas what might be wrong? (i removed my ip because it's public/static ip)
[14:56] <cuppa_coffee> steampowered.com is a website, i know. #valve certainly isnt a website but couldve been a channelname
[14:56] <cuppa_coffee> either that or a twitter hashtag
[14:56] <kidx> any one know how to properly install omega drivers casue i cant get them install so they prefrom right?
[14:56] <ObrienDave> we DON'T do twitter here
[14:56] <cuppa_coffee> ya think?
[14:56] <Spawny> tweeting is evil
[14:57] <White_Cat> tweeters are to be exterminated
[14:57] <White_Cat> hey, a dalek sends a tweet
[14:57] <White_Cat> it reads?
[14:57] <Spawny> tweeters shouls b killed
[14:57] <kidx> just twitter
[14:57] <Spawny> kill them with fire
[14:57] <kidx> not a big deal
[14:57] <Spawny> or a hammer
[14:57] <cfhowlett> Spawny, stop it.
[14:57] <White_Cat> why so violent
[14:57] <White_Cat> lasers.
[14:57] <Pici> Lets move on..
[14:57] <White_Cat> okay
[14:58] <BluesKaj> White_Cat, sudo fdisk -l , look for disk label type
[14:58] <kidx> any how i can here for help lmoa no to here twitter is bad
[14:59] <White_Cat> it is gpt
[14:59] <White_Cat> you mean whats written under "system" right?
[15:00] <White_Cat> isnt gpt the new mbr?
[15:00] <White_Cat> 4tb drive cannot be anything but gpt anyways :p
[15:00] <White_Cat> mbr has a limi at 2.5tb?
[15:00] <OerHeks> 2.2 gb
[15:01] <White_Cat> meh
[15:01] <White_Cat> okay so crisis averted
[15:01] <White_Cat> what should I check next?
[15:02] <CoreSaint> really, White_Cat i have told you half an hour ago how to check it and you still waited for BluesKaj to tell you the same thing, really???
[15:02] <White_Cat> I had connection issues
[15:03] <White_Cat> maybe I missed it
[15:03] <ivano> norton antivirus
[15:03] <White_Cat> I am sorry
[15:03] <kidx> any one know the proper way to install drivers
[15:03] <Spawny> woohoo pendrivelinux just finnished
[15:03] <BluesKaj> CoreSaint, I don't think he reads everything posted
[15:03] <kidx> i mean omega drivers
[15:03] <CoreSaint> BluesKaj: it was directed to him
[15:03] <White_Cat> like I said, I have had connection issues
[15:03] <White_Cat> damn wifi
[15:04]  * White_Cat curses the wifi router
[15:04] <BluesKaj> CoreSaint, yes, but I've been posting suggestions that aren't being read either
[15:04] <Scrivener> !patience
[15:05]  * White_Cat pets Scrivener
[15:05] <kidx> hmmm ill look else where laters
[15:05] <Scrivener> White_Cat, I was just curious =)
[15:05] <Scrivener> I'm not sure how long I should wait before asking again
[15:05] <CoreSaint> BluesKaj: ok,
[15:05] <BluesKaj> kidx, which drivers?
[15:05] <Scrivener> I can't find answers elsewhere :(
[15:05] <kidx> omega
[15:05] <kidx> 14.12 i think or higher
[15:06] <BluesKaj> kidx, omega what ?
[15:06] <kidx> amd
[15:06] <kidx> amd omega
[15:06] <BluesKaj> ok amd what?
[15:06] <kidx> AMD omega 14 somthing
[15:06] <kidx> there latest driver
[15:07] <kidx> suspose to be more improved.
[15:08] <BluesKaj> what hardware m, graphics, audio ?
[15:08] <OpenTokix> Scrivener: I would suggest remove power to the docking station, remove laptop - put back power to docking, put back laptop. - Im guessing your screens "disapeared" Second thing to try is vendor utility for multiscreen setup. - nvidia-settings or amdccctl - if its nvidia or amd. - If you are using open source-drviers,  try X -configure and see what it says about your screens. - Might be that your screens got new id's
[15:09] <kidx> what u mean i have HD5770
[15:09] <cuppa_coffee> problem fixed itself with turning it off and on again
[15:09] <kidx> all i wanna do is install the latest fdriver
[15:09] <Scrivener> OpenTokix, I can try this, but I've done it before. I was gone over the weekend meanwhile, so it should all be "reset" so to speak. At least I would think. I am using Intel HD4000 graphics for compatibility (forgot to mention this), and I will try X-configure as you say.
[15:09] <Scrivener> AFK as I attempt these things quickly.
[15:09] <OpenTokix> Scrivener: X -configre will generate a new x config for you
[15:10]  * BluesKaj gives up ...quoting model numbers doesn't tell me anything
[15:10] <kidx> lol
[15:10] <kidx> this is not helping
[15:10] <kidx> all i ask was how do i install the latest AMD driver
[15:10] <kidx> thats all
[15:11] <xor_x> hello
[15:11] <cfhowlett> kidx, download from amd.  install with command line
[15:11] <kidx> tried that
[15:11] <cfhowlett> xor_x, greetings.  ask your ubuntu questions.
[15:11] <kidx> nothing but pure lag
[15:11] <kidx> thethe 3d preformance is cery crap
[15:12] <Scrivener> OpenTokix, I tried as you said with removing power to dock/laptop, removing the laptop, and reinserting it and restoring power. Still the same error is yielded when I attempt to change the resolution on my external displays. I will try X-Configure next after scrum...
[15:12] <kidx> very very crap
[15:12] <xor_x> is there any alternative ubuntu software for Microsoft Visio?
[15:12] <cfhowlett> kidx, wait, so the driver DID install?
[15:12] <OpenTokix> kidx: run command: glxinfo
[15:12] <BluesKaj> oh , graphics ...it only took 10 posts to find that out
[15:12] <kidx> ok
[15:13] <bazhang> 14.12, the newest omega driver for his card
[15:13] <OpenTokix> Scrivener: you have to run X -configure from a command textmode, not from within X
[15:13] <kidx> glxinfo currently not installed
[15:13] <OpenTokix> kidx: Thats why your 3d performance is crap, you have drivers, but dont the API between Xorg and the driver
[15:13] <ivano> help
[15:13] <BluesKaj> kidx, install mesa-utils
[15:13] <cfhowlett> !help | ivano
[15:13] <OpenTokix> kidx: what BluesKaj said
[15:14] <OerHeks> xor_x, http://askubuntu.com/questions/37632/is-there-an-alternative-to-microsoft-office-visio
[15:14] <kidx> ok installed
[15:14] <kidx> done that
[15:14] <OpenTokix> xor_x: yEd is way superior over openoffice draw or dia, go with yEd
[15:15] <kidx> what do i do after that reboot
[15:15] <OpenTokix> xor_x: lucidchart for google drive is also pretty nifty, but not as good as yEd
[15:15] <xor_x> thanx, going to try them
[15:15] <BluesKaj> nope, you need mesa-utils for glxinfo , kidx
[15:16] <kidx> ok
[15:16] <kidx> well it works now
[15:16] <kidx> so after that do i install the drivers from site
[15:16] <kidx> and all should work pro
[15:16] <OpenTokix> kidx: if it works, why do you need other drivers?
[15:16] <kidx> right
[15:16] <kidx> i never said it works
[15:16] <OpenTokix> 16:16:06 < kidx> well it works now
[15:16] <BluesKaj> kidx, no use the package manager
[15:16] <kidx> glxindo does now
[15:17] <OpenTokix> kidx: do you get information about your 3d subsystem when you run glxinfo?
[15:17] <kidx> i was not talking about drivers
[15:17] <kidx> yes
[15:17] <OpenTokix> kidx: and you still have terrible 3d performance?
[15:17] <Patzen> hello ,I succesfully built a active directory domain controller, windows clients can join and share files with the server. Now ho can i join a linux client
[15:18] <kidx> yea
[15:18] <kidx> all i did was install mesa-utils
[15:18] <Patzen> do i need nfs ?
[15:18] <kidx> thast not gona fix unless i reboot
[15:18] <kidx> right
[15:18] <BluesKaj> mesa-utils is not a driver
[15:18] <OpenTokix> kidx: Can you paste your glxinfo output to pastebin
[15:18] <kidx> also all i wanna do is game and broadcast
[15:18] <kidx> ok
[15:18] <kidx> i will now
[15:20] <samthewildone> I installed chrome from google
[15:20] <OpenTokix> samthewildone: I am happy for you
[15:20] <kidx> http://pastebin.com/xZeAjas6
[15:20] <Patzen> haha
[15:20] <samthewildone> Though I cannot pin the application to my docky bar. Is there a reason why & can I symbolic link it ?
[15:20] <samthewildone> OpenTokix, accidently pressed the enter key before I can add the rest of the words.
[15:22] <samthewildone> oh what happened to the instant support ?
[15:22] <OpenTokix> kidx: apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dri
[15:22] <Patzen> how to join a linux client to active directory dc
[15:22] <OpenTokix> samthewildone: honest mistake =)
[15:23] <samthewildone> :|
[15:23] <kidx> ok
[15:23] <kidx> now what
[15:23] <OpenTokix> samthewildone: I am sorry, I cant help you with your unity issue, since I dont run unity
[15:23] <kidx> will that driver be good for 3d preformance
[15:23] <kidx> casue i wanna game and use OBS
[15:23] <samthewildone> OpenTokix, who said I was running bloat...err Unity ?
[15:23] <samthewildone> OpenTokix, I'm running Ubuntu Gnome
[15:24] <OpenTokix> samthewildone: I dont run gnome either =)
[15:24] <xor_x> I have "unable to mount volume", I had windows installed and now I install ubuntu, it's saying NTF partition is in usafe state. how can I access the drive?
[15:24]  * samthewildone strangles OpenTokix for being a rebel.
[15:24] <OpenTokix> kidx: libGL error: failed to load driver: swrast
[15:24] <kidx> whats that mean
[15:24] <OpenTokix> kidx: Is your glxinfo output - and the dri is direct rendering - ie. - Fast writing to graphics
[15:25] <kidx> how i tell that
[15:25] <cfhowlett> xor_x, unsafe state means you are risking your windows OS doing whatever it is you're doing.  proceed with caution
[15:25] <OpenTokix> kidx: I just told you, from the output of your glxinfo
[15:25] <lhorace> Hello, I have a few issues with my Ubuntu box, 14.10.
[15:26] <OpenTokix> kidx: It say: "direct rendering: No"
[15:26] <xor_x> cfhowlett : i have removed windows, now I can't access the drive because windows use the hibernation system. is there any way I can access the drive?
[15:26] <kidx> so what do i need to make it yes
[15:26] <kidx> if so how
[15:26] <cfhowlett> xor_x, "removed" windows?  how?
[15:26] <OpenTokix> kidx: apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dri
[15:27] <kidx> already did that
[15:27] <kidx> so i must reboot
[15:27] <cfhowlett> xor_x, better yet: so you DO NOT want windows, rigth?
[15:27] <kidx> for it to take effect
[15:27] <cfhowlett> *right*?
[15:27] <xor_x> cfholett, I mean I have removed windows OS, format the drive and install ubuntu in it.
[15:27] <OpenTokix> kidx: you need to restart xorg atleast
[15:27] <kidx> then i come back ang give you glxinfo
[15:27] <OpenTokix> kidx: yes
[15:27] <kidx> ok
[15:27] <kidx> brb
[15:27] <kidx> can i do restartx
[15:27] <cfhowlett> xor_x, and it's still giving you that error message?  weird.  over my head.  best I stop here.  sorry.
[15:27] <kidx> or no
[15:28] <col7> How can I remove blank spaces from my unity bar?
[15:28] <xor_x> cfhowlett, no problemo, thanx for reply
[15:28] <xor_x> col7, blank spaces?
[15:29] <Qbuo> Just downloaded a couple software updates, now my mouse cursor is gone, no mater how many times i restart
[15:30] <Qbuo> I need some help if anyone's willing?
[15:30] <brastologix> Qbuo: Use Windows.
[15:30] <cfhowlett> !patience | Qbuo
[15:30] <cfhowlett> !behelpful | brastologix,
[15:30] <Qbuo> Alright...
[15:30] <bazhang> brastologix, not welcome here ever
[15:31] <lhorace> Issue 1: Whenever I shutdown from the cog menu it logs me out the login screen. Once there, when I repeat the same procedure, I get a cut off Window. I read this bug report which is still opened and confirmed. It's most likely do to other users currently logged in. I do have a root shell opened and this might be the cause of it. My question, why am not warned that other users are logged in and ask for my administrator password?
[15:31] <bazhang> lhorace, what version o f ubuntu
[15:31] <lhorace> 14.10
[15:32] <bazhang> lhorace, how are you checking for other users
[15:34] <Scrivener> OpenTokix, oh boy, so I have to drop to a tty?
[15:34] <Scrivener> For X -configure?
[15:34] <ubuntu> hrm
[15:35] <Qbuo> Is there any way I can restore my computer to how it was like 20 minutes ago?
[15:35] <kidx> ok
[15:35] <Spawnster> thats better
[15:35] <kidx> i am back http://pastebin.com/yySmYVRE
[15:35] <xor_x> I have got an easy solution for "unable to mount ntfs drive" (due to windows), terminal : sudo ntfsfix /dev/sda2 [or the letter for the disk]
[15:35] <tomodachi> Qbuo: no , there is no default rollback builtin , unless you use brtfs with snapshots , or have a time machine handy
[15:35] <lhorace> bazhang: http://pastie.org/9954218
[15:36] <kidx> everything should be good now for gaming and broadcasting right?
[15:36] <lhorace> This is the bug report I forget to include in my last paste https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/838792
[15:36] <Qbuo> tomodachi: is there any way to uninstall recent updates then?
[15:36] <bazhang> kidx, try it and see
[15:37] <lhorace> Does two sessions are my two root terminals that I have opened via Terminal
[15:40] <Qbuo> I just did "sudo apt-get update (and upgrade) If i restart now could it work?
[15:41] <OpenTokix> kidx: how is your 3d performance now?
[15:41] <Qbuo> It's just so much trouble navigating back here without a cursor
[15:41] <lhorace> Reading over this http://askubuntu.com/questions/1190/how-can-i-make-shutdown-not-require-admin-password, by default, the policy kit is suppose to aske for Admin password
[15:41] <kidx> desktop good
[15:41] <kidx> let me test a game
[15:41] <OpenTokix> kidx: try glxgears
[15:41] <Jakey2__> how do I quit a channel on irssi
[15:42] <somsip> Jakey2__: /wc
[15:42] <Jakey2__> thanks
[15:42] <Jakey2__> and to swich channels?
[15:42] <lhorace> Issue 2: The update applet stopped working, whenever I click on /Install Now/, I see a progress bar, then waiting for authorization and it disappears. I am always getting prompted for the same updates every few hours.
[15:42] <Prezident> Its not possible quit a channel without disconnect, only part. A big difference.
[15:42] <Qbuo> Mouse cursor is invisible after installing updates on 14.04. Multiple restarts haven't worked.
[15:42] <OpenTokix> Jakey2__: /win #
[15:43] <OpenTokix> Jakey2__: or est + 1, 2, 3, 4, etc.
[15:43] <Jakey2__> OpenTokix: thanks
[15:43] <col7> How can I remove blank spaces from my unity bar?
[15:43] <col7> Yes, blank spaces... spaces that occupy space, without any entities visible.
[15:44] <col7> It is in Ubuntu 14.10.
[15:45] <OpenTokix> Jakey2__: est should be esc, but I guess you got it?
[15:46] <Scrivener> OpenTokix, is there a way I can clear out all of Ubuntu's knowledge about my display setup altogether, and have it re-detect and reset everything itself as it did the first time I plugged them in?
[15:46] <Scrivener> Because it worked the first time. It's only after hitting that godawful Super + P combo that it went haywire and won't go back.
[15:47] <lhorace> Issue 3: Whenever I log out, I can never log back in, Xorg just freezes. I can't switch to VT. My only option is to hard reboot.
[15:47] <OpenTokix> Scrivener: Im not sure - it might be so that there is some state saved for you laptop. - Usualy the super +P have multiple states, ie. external only, mirror, multi etc.
[15:47] <OpenTokix> Scrivener: so it might be so you have to go back to the state you had
[15:47] <Scrivener> OpenTokix, how can I tell what state I'm in? It looks the same now, except that the resolutions are strange.
[15:47] <OpenTokix> Scrivener: I would go in to laptop bios, so see if there is any info about it in the bios, to start the troubleshooting
[15:47] <Scrivener> :S
[15:48] <Scrivener> Man, frustrating.
[15:48] <OpenTokix> Scrivener: laptops tend to be =)
[15:48] <Scrivener> Haha, Linux* tends to be :P And I say this as someone who works solely with Linux at home and professionally.
[15:48] <Scrivener> Righto... I'll begin the slow slog back to sanity.
[15:49] <OpenTokix> Scrivener: I have to be honest, - i dont use linux for my protable computers =)
[15:49] <tomodachi> OpenTokix: depends on the laptop , I have never had isses excet for Modern apple laptops
[15:50] <tomodachi> Lenovo laptops work fine out of the box with everything
[15:50] <Maluno> Hi is anyone here from the official Ubuntu team?
[15:51] <cfhowlett> Maluno, they are rarely here
[15:51] <Maluno> Mhmm, mhmm, thanks for the straight answer.
[15:51] <OpenTokix> tomodachi: thats my impression also, - just never gone the lenovo route
[15:52] <tomodachi> same for the macbook air,  everything works out of the box and i mean everything
[15:54] <vy> Hi! Using 14.04.1 LTS, "apt-get install protobuf-compiler=2.4.1-1ubuntu2" complains that "apt-get install protobuf-compiler=2.4.1-1ubuntu2". How can I make apt-get locate v2.4.1?
[15:55] <OerHeks> Maluno, what do you mean with 'official ubuntu team" ?
[15:56] <pbx> Maluno, if you mean canonical employees, threre may be some here but i don't know that they are empowered to speak for their employer. what's up?
[15:56] <OerHeks> vy, drop the 2.4.1-1ubuntu2 > sudo apt-get install protobuf-compiler
[15:57] <Maluno> I am a rep from the biggest technology forum in my country and I would like to talk with the official team in order to organize an event.
[15:57] <vy> OerHeks: But I do not want the latest 2.5.0 release.
[15:57] <mbalmer> Maluno, which country, if I may ask?
[15:57] <Prezident> Maluno: i suggest you to send an email to the devolopers if you wanna talk with them.
[15:58] <Maluno> Portugal :)
[15:58] <lhorace> For issue 2, I think I am experiencing this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/785117. I can't remove or add applications via software center. I tried to run /usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1 manually from a terminal; I get '(polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1:22557): polkit-gnome-1-WARNING **: Unable to determine the session we are in: No session for pid 22557'. I
[15:58] <lhorace> don't see it in my /Startup Applications/
[15:58] <sumit_India> hi
[15:58] <SchrodingersScat> !loco | Maluno
[15:58] <mbalmer> Maluno, mmmmm, nice.
[15:58] <Maluno> Thanks man.
[15:58] <OerHeks> vy stange, why not ? next release is using 2.6.1 ...
[15:59] <Jakey2_> \win 2
[15:59] <vy> OerHeks: Because I need 2.4.1.
[15:59] <vy> OerHeks: I want to install particularly that version of the package.
[15:59] <Scrivener> OpenTokix, I can confirm that Super + P does cycle through output modes, and that I'm in the same mode as the one I started in -- not mirrored or external-only modes, but the default mode. Yet in the Displays setting, if I select a higher resolution (which is available and native to the displays), I get "could not set the configuration for CRTC 64" (or 65).
[16:00] <SchrodingersScat> Maluno: there's also http://www.ubuntu.com/about/contact-us , but not sure what you're checking for your event
[16:00] <Scrivener> The only time I have had this message before was when a kernel update broke my 3-monitor setup a long time ago, but this did not happen following a kernel update.
[16:00] <OerHeks> vy, oke, then download the sourcecode, and build yourself http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/precise/protobuf
[16:00] <Scrivener> And my 3-monitor setup is working, except that the two external displays are not displaying at their native resolution.
[16:01] <Maluno> Just want to reach someone from the official team so I can be redirected to the right person. Anyway, thanks for the help.
[16:01] <mbalmer> Maluno, you are aware that a company is behind ubuntu?
[16:01] <mbalmer> maybe contact them
[16:02] <Maluno> Ok, sure.
[16:02] <vy> Why is it so hard to do not talk at all when you do not know the answer...
[16:02] <Maluno> Nice tips :9
[16:02] <Maluno> :)
[16:03] <OerHeks> vy ?? i cannot give you a package to download, as they are removed from the server. nice attitude ..
[16:04] <Lumia930`> without enabling samba .. is it possible to change the workgroup name in ubuntu ?
[16:04] <Scrivener> OpenTokix, I got it! I should document it somewhere.
[16:04] <OpenTokix> Scrivener: yes you should
[16:04] <Scrivener> In Displays settings, here's what fixed my problem. I disabled *one* of the external monitors, and saved the configuration.
[16:04] <Scrivener> Then, with one disabled, I changed the resolution on the other one successfully and saved.
[16:04] <OpenTokix> Scrivener: awesome
[16:04] <Scrivener> Then I enabled the other one again, and it enabled at the proper resolution.
[16:05] <vy> OerHeks: Because in the worst case you can recommend ppl to download .deb files manually and install via dpkg, which I also did. Compiling from the sources should be the last resort. Further, IIRC, installing an old version also should possible via apt-get/aptitude by making some configurations to the package system.
[16:05] <Scrivener> Think perhaps I should ask + answer my own AskUbuntu question about it?
[16:05] <Scrivener> That way others might find it.
[16:05] <kidx> sofar so good thanks
[16:05] <kidx> if i need any more help ill comde back i am noff now
[16:05] <cfhowlett> Scrivener, that would certainly earn you karma! :)
[16:06] <lhorace> So update break the system
[16:06] <Scrivener> cfhowlett, meh, couldn't care less about that -- I just want to save people some frustration ^.^
[16:07] <MrElendig> Scrivener: there is a wiki you know
[16:10] <Lumia930`> without enabling samba .. is it possible to change the workgroup name in ubuntu ?
[16:11] <sohail-ahmed> I am having a little problem extracting pdf pages from pdf files using Ghostscript, does that problem could be entertained here?
[16:11] <OerHeks> Lumia930`, sure, you need to edit 2 places,
[16:11] <Scrivener> cfhowlett, I know I have a stackexchange user (I've done some things on AskUbuntu before), but I can't seem to locate it... heheh. >.>
[16:11] <OerHeks> !hostname
[16:14] <akaWolf> hello! which is current status of Compiz in latest Ubuntu?
[16:15] <OerHeks> !info compiz
[16:17] <Spawnster> wb Spawny
[16:17] <akaWolf> OerHeks: it's not that what I want to know
[16:18] <Spawnster> is it possible to mount a hard drive on a win8 machine on my network?
[16:19] <OerHeks> akaWolf, so what do you want to know then?
[16:19] <OerHeks> unity is runing on top of compiz.
[16:19] <Reptilia> Anyone here possesses/had some experience with a Lenovo Thinkpad T400? I want to buy a used one, and i need some insights if there is some known, confirmed issue with this model, if i should pay attention to something specific and similar stuff. Thanks in advance.
[16:20] <bazhang> Reptilia, try ##hardware
[16:20] <OerHeks> That lenovo t400 runs linux fine, iirc
[16:20] <Spawnster> Reptilia: i know one issue
[16:21] <Jakey2__> how many people use irssi?
[16:21] <Pici> Jakey2__: a lot.
[16:21] <OerHeks> Jakey2__, more than one
[16:21] <bazhang> Jakey2__, thats hard to say
[16:21] <Jakey2__> i find hexchat alot easier to use
[16:21] <bazhang> so use it
[16:21] <Pici> Jakey2__: Do you have a question about it? This is a support channel after all.
[16:22] <OerHeks> hexchat=gui, irssi=tty
[16:22] <Spawnster> what is the best irc client to use i using xchat right now
[16:22] <Jakey2__> it was just a conversation
[16:22] <Pici> Jakey2__: Check out #ubuntu-offtopic for other conversations :)
[16:22] <Jakey2__> fair enough
[16:23] <Jakey2__> :)
[16:23] <Jakey2__> im using it now
[16:23] <Jakey2__> just installed it
[16:23] <Spawnster> anyone still use BitchX?
[16:25] <KindOne> xchat is rather dead, better off with hexchat
[16:26] <Spawnster> i will try that thanks KindOne
[16:27] <Xsta> hi
[16:28] <jbwiv> hi guys. I'm trying to install gnome 3.14 on ubuntu 14.10. I've follow the instructions here (http://www.webupd8.org/2014/10/how-to-install-gnome-314-in-ubuntu.html) but no matter what I do, 3.12 seems to get installed instead. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong or can you suggest a channel I should go to to ask?
[16:28] <Xsta> Everybody feels good?
[16:29] <Xsta> @jbwiv i don't know your fail...
[16:29] <Jakey2__> how do i run a python program with python2
[16:29] <Jakey2__> from terminal
[16:29] <Xsta> What is Phyton?
[16:29] <Jakey2__> *python
[16:29] <Prezident> Please jbwiv do not use third-part guides. Thats never good.
[16:29] <tomodachi> Jakey2__: python2 file.py
[16:29] <Jakey2__> thanks
[16:29] <Xsta> What is python?
[16:29] <jbwiv> Prezident, is there a first-party guide to install gnome 3.14 on ubuntu 14.10?
[16:29] <caonicaldroid> what is good video editing software that can put videos in slow o
[16:29] <caonicaldroid> mo
[16:30] <OerHeks> !info python
[16:30] <Prezident> Of course jbwiv.
[16:30] <Prezident> http://askubuntu.com/questions/536721/how-to-get-gnome-3-14-on-ubuntu-14-04
[16:31] <Prezident> I see they linking to that page aswell, lulz
[16:31] <Prezident> I never used any third part guides anyhow
[16:31] <Prezident> Dangerous and outdated mostly
[16:31] <jbwiv> Prezident, I see. didn't realize askubuntu was considered an authoritative source. ok, thanks
[16:32] <Prezident> better then unknown sources
[16:32] <caonicaldroid> Anyone know how to build apps on ubuntu?
[16:32] <OerHeks> I wouldn't recommend installing gnome 3.14 on ubuntu 14.04.
[16:32] <Prezident> I wouldnt recoment installing gnome anytime :P
[16:32] <tomodachi> oro: why not?
[16:32] <tomodachi> oro: sorry wrong person
[16:32] <tomodachi> OerHeks: why not
[16:32] <oro> tomodachi :) np
[16:32] <alex__c> hi :) I'm planning to move my ubuntu 14.10 install from an 160gb drive to a newly bought 1tb drive, should dd suffice for this? or do I need to partition the new drive first, etc?
[16:33] <OerHeks> IT can, for sure, break your system, wait for vivid 15.04
[16:33] <Prezident> caonicaldroid: what do you mean ?
[16:33] <tomodachi> alex__c: i would recomend using ghostzilla instead its quicker
[16:33] <caonicaldroid> Anyone wanna partner up and teach me java and C++
[16:33] <tomodachi> alex__c: dd will read every block meaning even unused space will be copied , while ghostzilla will be smarted and just copy allocated space
[16:33] <alex__c> thanks tomodachi
[16:34] <Prezident> caonicaldroid: no. google is your friend for that, not #ubuntu, please go to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[16:34] <caonicaldroid> I want to learn the first language needed to build apps but its too complicated on ubuntu
[16:34] <jbwiv>  update-manager
[16:34] <caonicaldroid> okay sorry.
[16:34] <jbwiv> woops :)
[16:34] <tomodachi> caonicaldroid: apps for what? ubuntu desktop? if so there are many programing languages you can use
[16:34] <Prezident> No problem caonicaldroid this is for Ubuntu Support.
[16:35] <alex__c> tomodachi did you mean Clonezilla? ghostzilla seems to be a browser
[16:35] <caonicaldroid> I meant for android
[16:36] <caonicaldroid> I am wanting to build a simple generator app but i dont know where to start\
[16:36] <Prezident> alex__c: yes it would.
[16:36] <tomodachi> caonicaldroid: you want to build apps for android on ubuntu?
[16:36] <caonicaldroid> I may have asked this before lol but is there anything i should do to speed up ununtu? Does anyone do anything to optimize it
[16:36] <Prezident> Wont be any problem with dd aslong your target disk is bigger then your source drive. Good luck.
[16:36] <caonicaldroid> I do know windows avg pc tuneup is a must for most users
[16:36] <MrElendig> caonicaldroid: it is not
[16:37] <MrElendig> and it often doesn't actually give you any real performance improvement
[16:37] <tomodachi> caonicaldroid: your speed up question is to generic to give a clear precis answer perhaps if you told us WHAt you experienced as slow we could offer help
[16:38] <Prezident> Androoid is for #android, this is still a support channel for Ubuntu not for teching language, keep top topic please. You can build android apps on any distro you want. So plase.
[16:38] <Prezident> please.
[16:38] <editha> hi
[16:38] <Prezident> hi
[16:38] <caonicaldroid> Never mind i dont want to waste your time
[16:38] <MrElendig> caonicaldroid: C++ and java are not good languages to start out with as your first language either
[16:38] <Prezident> You not wasting any time, but read topic.
[16:39] <editha> so i got the following problem, my monitor suddenly doesnt get recognized anymore, hence: http://pastebin.com/4PkjYN4k
[16:39] <caonicaldroid> Whats the best tgo start out with MrElendi
[16:40] <Prezident> What have you done editha for get this, played with kernel settings or it just happened after an update, upgrade, did you remove any modprbe? More info would h elp.
[16:40] <lhorace> I was able to fix my issue with 'polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1' by removing 'ulatencyd' according to this bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/policykit-desktop-privileges/+bug/1240336
[16:40] <editha> Prezident, no kernel changes, only thing i did was adding a DVB-stick and installing me tv
[16:40] <Prezident> Try remove and add the contact again editha it might help, there is a a bug similiar to this.
[16:41] <editha> Prezident, what contact?
[16:41] <Prezident> Your on workstation yes?
[16:41] <editha> Well a desktop pc yep
[16:42] <Prezident> The contact you connect to your monitor might be plugged out and in again for ubuntu to find the drivers automaticly again .. VGA HDMI DVI dunno what you using.
[16:42] <editha> aah lol ok
[16:42] <editha> ok i'll try that
[16:42] <Prezident> Did you reboot for this happend or you just installed the program and then it stopped?
[16:43] <editha> Prezident, no it happened after rebooting
[16:43] <Prezident> Might be the bug then, try it if it wont help we go further
[16:44] <editha> Prezident, so just replugging won't help, do i need to reboot?
[16:47] <editha> Prezident, i'm trying to reboot, maybe that helps brb
[16:48] <Prezident> no shouldnt be needed
[16:48] <Prezident> Ah
[16:49] <caonicaldroid> Okay I actually need help now.
[16:49] <caonicaldroid> Everywhere I go ubuntu touch is not compatible with sasung galaxy S3?
[16:49] <Prezident> !ask
[16:50] <caonicaldroid> Does anyone know why it wont work or has gotten it to work?
[16:50] <Prezident> hows it went editha ?
[16:50] <OerHeks> !phone
[16:50] <editha> Prezident, so after turning the monitor off and on while rebooting, everything is fine now :)
[16:50] <Prezident> Great editha !
[16:50] <OerHeks> caonicaldroid, join #ubuntu-touch for phone questions, that S3 is (not yet) suported
[16:50] <Prezident> Thats a kernel bug.
[16:50] <Prezident> Glad it helped :)
[16:51] <caonicaldroid> I am a rom dev for this phone maybe i can help
[16:51] <caonicaldroid> ok
[16:51] <OerHeks> caonicaldroid, sure, any help is welcome. they can help you out how.
[16:51] <SerialDev> an interesting question for fellow ubuntu afficionados: anyone know of a cure for the workspace bug?
[16:51] <editha> now xchat crashed
[16:52] <editha> Prezident, so it's all fine after rebooting
[16:52] <MDTech-us_MAN> I have an amazon ec2 server
[16:52] <MDTech-us_MAN> I am trying to set IPv6 tunnel on my Ubuntu EC2. after I try to start the interface, I get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10248292/
[16:52] <MDTech-us_MAN> this is the guide I am following: http://www.datacentrix.org/blog/faq/IPv6-tunnel-+-rDNS-on-Amazon-EC2-running-Ubuntu.htm
[16:52] <Prezident> editha: great i saw! =) COngratulations, its kernel bug ubuntu is affected at..
[16:52] <editha> Prezident, i see, ok thanks for helping!
[16:53] <Prezident> np
[16:54] <Prezident> What your "ifconfig -a" command gives for result  MDTech-us_MAN ?
[16:54] <somsip> MDTech-us_MAN: any good to you? http://askubuntu.com/questions/109709/hurricane-ipv6-buffer-space-error
[16:57] <MDTech-us_MAN> somsip: nope
[16:58] <Prezident> site0 wont help you MDTech-us_MAN
[16:58] <MDTech-us_MAN> oh, right
[16:58] <Prezident> nice server by the way! >OT>
[16:58] <MDTech-us_MAN> I forgot to give you the interfaces file
[16:58] <uuhimhere> is it possivle to build apparmor for android
[16:59] <Prezident> Yes.
[17:00] <Prezident> sudo apparmor_status
[17:00] <Prezident> has to install the module first uuhimhere
[17:00] <Prezident> Dunno if its default in your version.
[17:00] <uuhimhere> Prezident: is there a howto
[17:00] <Prezident> Sure.
[17:00] <Prezident> sec
[17:01] <Prezident> http://www.howtogeek.com/118222/htg-explains-what-apparmor-is-and-how-it-secures-your-ubuntu-system/ < third part aware it might be un-updated.
[17:01] <uuhimhere> is it judt a matter of enabling flafs and rebuildung kernel
[17:01] <Prezident> Wich kernel you running?
[17:01] <Prezident> 3.19?
[17:01] <MDTech-us_MAN> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10258544/
[17:01] <uuhimhere> 3.4.5 samsung frankenkernel
[17:01] <MDTech-us_MAN> interfaces ^
[17:02] <Prezident> You running ubunu uuhimhere ?
[17:02] <Prezident> ubuntu*
[17:02] <caonicaldroid> wait does ubuntu use kernels like android?
[17:02] <uuhimhere> not on the pgone no
[17:02] <somsip> MDTech-us_MAN: does the fact that EC2 has no direct support for ipv6 make any difference to tunnelling?
[17:02] <MDTech-us_MAN> caonicaldroid, all OS had kernals
[17:02] <makerops> hi, im having trouble with nvida/3 monitors and unity;  all the monitors work, and are in the right orientation, but the desktop never loads
[17:02] <Prezident> Yes caonicaldroid every GNU/linux has its own kernel, linux kernel is built on unix kernel, so yes.
[17:02] <Prezident> or own kernel, its built from the main kernel.
[17:02] <Prezident> Wich is mainly supported by Red Hat devolopers..
[17:03] <Prezident> I think torvalds own 10% or something still
[17:03] <makerops> i just get hte background and a mouse cursor, and ive been through the threads on ubuntu looking for a oslution etc
[17:03] <caonicaldroid> so could you get tweaked kernels for ubuntu like you can for android?
[17:03] <Prezident> Redhat 40% last time i readed about it, long time ago tho
[17:03] <somsip> Prezident: linux kernel is linux kernel. you're not correct in what you say
[17:03] <Prezident> somsip: linux kernel is built on unix kernel.
[17:03] <Prezident> Linus just expanded it a bit.
[17:03] <somsip> Prezident: toally incorrect
[17:03] <k1l> caonicaldroid: you know that linux OS are named linux because they use the linux kernel?
[17:04] <uuhimhere> og ffs
[17:04] <caonicaldroid> Yea I just look deep into this because I love to modify things to the full extent lol
[17:04] <Prezident> Proof me different somsip
[17:04] <bazhang> Prezident, take this elsewhere
[17:05] <Prezident> bazhang: bettert you be quiet i just replied a question
[17:05] <jhutchins> caonicaldroid: Building your own kernel is a good way to learn about how it works.
[17:05] <k1l> caonicaldroid: you could build your own kernels for ubuntu.
[17:05] <bazhang> Prezident, thats enough
[17:05] <Prezident> lmao.
[17:05] <somsip> !compilekernel | caonicaldroid (lots of info here)
[17:06] <ludocode> hey folks, question. why do i still have to choose a mirror when installing? why doesn't it just resolve to a cdn?
[17:07] <ludocode> what invariably happens is that within a couple months of installing, ca.ubuntu.com or whatever canadian mirror gives me a 404 on some packages, and i always end up stripping out the ca. and everything works again
[17:08] <ludocode> like i don't get why the apt sources isn't just cdn.ubuntu.com or something which redirects to the nearest mirror
[17:08] <k1l> ludocode: its made to decrease the heavy traffic from the main servers. in general that works very well. i dont know whats up in canada with the mirrors
[17:08] <ludocode> and i also don't get why apt doesn't try a different mirror if a package download fails. arch's pacman does this, it automatically tries the next mirror in the list if a package is missing
[17:09] <k1l> ludocode: ca.ubuntu.com is already a loadbalancer and not one specific server
[17:09] <somsip> ludocode: maybe one to ask ubuntu-mirror-admins (see link on here) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors
[17:11] <uuhimhere> i know this is slightly oot but since apparmors kinda canonicals baby; can it be used on dro8d
[17:12] <jhutchins> ludocode: There are all sorts of solutions like mirrorselect that will pick your fastest mirrors.
[17:12] <popey> uuhimhere: what is dro8d ?
[17:12] <jhutchins> ludocode: Sometimes a mirror will drop out of sync, or will be in the middle of an update when you connect.  It's just something that happens sometimes, it's just a glitch, not a system failure.
[17:12] <bazhang> leet spelling of android popey
[17:13] <ludocode> kinda sounds like a system failure if an update fails due to missing packages... as in, the system isn't working properly if it offers me updates that aren't actually available
[17:14] <bazhang> ludocode, is your release still supported? that would be a reason for that
[17:14] <rj24> hi guys, have a question: I'm looking at htop on my ubuntu server, and there's a few apache processes with high CPU usage and on the TIME+ column they show 500h, 1000h, 2000h, times like that, is this normal?
[17:14] <k1l> ludocode: on systemsettings, software and updates you can choose the mirror.
[17:14] <bazhang> ludocode, what version are you currently on
[17:14] <uuhimhere> bazhang: sorrt am on ma phone
[17:14] <k1l> ludocode: but if you are not interessted in any advice but just in ranting: this is the wrong channel then
[17:14] <ludocode> i'm not actually using ubuntu anymore. i'm on arch mainly, but i'm installing debian on another system right now and it asked me to choose a mirror
[17:15] <k1l> ludocode: m(
[17:15] <ludocode> and it got me to thinking about how the ubuntu canadian mirrors were always broken, so i came here to ask about it
[17:15] <bazhang> ludocode, #debian
[17:15] <ludocode> yeah i know, but i used ubuntu for about 9 years, figured people might have insight about how these mirrors are supposed to work
[17:16] <bazhang> ludocode, the release cycle is shorter, that would be a factor, but again you are not on ubuntu, so please #debian
[17:16] <ludocode> i didn't ask in #debian because i haven't had these problems with debian.
[17:17] <jhutchins> ludocode: The mirrors are mostly auto-maintained and hosted by an organization that has some bandwidth and the ability to sponsor a server.
[17:17] <jhutchins> ludocode: Most of them host more than one distribution.
[17:18] <jhutchins> ludocode: Some of them aren't terribly reliable - it's not like there's a financial incentive for the best uptime.
[17:18] <robk> i'm currently trying to compile audiere-1.9.4 and it says that I need libFlac, and it's currently disabled, I ran $ apt-get install libflac-dev, expecting that to install the devel files for headers and such, and when I went to re-compile, nothing showed up, I ran $ sudo updatedb && locate .h | grep flac, and nothing showed up.
[17:18] <jhutchins> ludocode: There are private, commercially maintained servers you can pay to use.
[17:19] <robk> does libflac currently not work for 14.04 LTS?
[17:19] <robk> I've googled for this, haven't found much of anything useful.
[17:20] <Prezident> somsip: On October 5th, 1991, Torvalds sent a posting to the comp.os.minix newsgroup announcing the release of Version 0.02, a basic version that still needed Minix to operate
[17:20] <ikonia> Prezident: how is this anything to do with ubuntu ?
[17:20] <Prezident> ikonia: how your comment has?
[17:20] <ikonia> Prezident: to find out if your conversation is anything to do with ubuntu and either allow you to continue or ask you to stop
[17:22] <Prezident> You are still off topic, im talking about the source of Ubuntu and you talking nonsence, im done now but you are way more OT then me since we talked about ubuntu included a question regards the kernel earlier.
[17:26] <Mongo44> In Ubuntu 14.04 I can't figure out how to switch workspaces.
[17:26] <Mongo44> Cntrl+Alt+Arrow Key does nothing.
[17:27] <Prezident> have you enabled workspace under apperiance?
[17:27] <bazhang> Mongo44, gnome-shell or unity
[17:27] <Term1nal> Is there a way in which I can install a package from utopic in trusty? I need a newer version of exim4 that has support for a feature I need. The version in utopic has the feature I require.
[17:27] <teward> Term1nal: manually download the package file, or find a PPA with the backport?
[17:27] <Prezident> you can try super + s for get an overview Mongo44
[17:27] <bazhang> Term1nal, dont mix repo versions
[17:27] <Gwiz> Mongo44, check this Ask Ubuntu article, it might help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/260510/how-do-i-turn-on-workspaces-why-do-i-only-have-one-workspace
[17:28] <Mongo44> It is Unity. I don't think Gnome has that shortcut.
[17:28] <bazhang> Mongo44, gnome-shell has tons like that, depends on the extension like alt tab coverflow
[17:32] <Gwiz> Hey all, I'm running Ubuntu 14 in a virtualbox VM, it runs slow even with guest additions installed because I have integrated graphics. Is there a way I can dumb down the graphic appearance/effects to make it run faster?
[17:33] <teward> Gwiz: use a lighter variant, maybe?  Xubuntu or Lubuntu should work for that
[17:33] <bazhang> how much ram is given to the vm Gwiz
[17:33] <Gwiz> 4GB
[17:34] <michaelaguiar> One of the people in my company are hammering Google, through a crawler maybe.  In Ubuntu (my router), is there a way to see which computer is accessing a site multiple times?
[17:34] <Gwiz> teward, hopefully I can find a way to do it without needing to reinstall :(
[17:34] <Kelli> hi #ubuntu
[17:35] <bazhang> Gwiz, you can easily install a new de with lubuntu-desktop package then choose at login
[17:35] <Gwiz> michaelaguiar, depending on the router, you can check the traffic log and see the mac address and what IP/site they are going to
[17:35] <Kelli> how do i install video driver? i just got ubuntu for the first time in many years
[17:35] <Prezident> I doubt that michaelaguiar, but you can get ip pretty easy if its no hardware firewall before it.
[17:35] <Gwiz> Oh I wasn't aware of that, thank you bazhang
[17:35] <Prezident> Kelli: wich gfx you got?
[17:35] <michaelaguiar> Gwiz: Ah good idea.  Where are traffic logs located?
[17:35] <Mongo44> I figured out how to enable workspaces thank you.
[17:35] <Kelli> amd
[17:35] <bazhang> Gwiz, any of the -desktop packages, in fact
[17:36] <Gwiz> michaelaguiar, depends on the router you use. I use a watchguard so I have to connect to i through software and use system manager. Best to google your router's model for admin guide and check there.
[17:36] <michaelaguiar> Gwiz: My router is actually just an ubuntu machine
[17:36] <Gwiz> Oh, then I have no idea :P
[17:37] <Gwiz> I'm new to ubuntu myself
[17:37] <Prezident> try load fglrx Kelli
[17:37] <Prezident> as module.
[17:37] <Kelli> i have no idea what that even means
[17:37] <Prezident> sudo modprobe fglrx
[17:38] <TheXenith> hello! I am running Ubuntu 14.10 stock and would like to install GNOME3
[17:38] <k1l> Kelli: go to "system settings" then software and updates, then last tab and see if it offers prop. drivers
[17:38] <bazhang> gnome-shell TheXenith
[17:39] <Kelli> k1l, ok thats way easier to figure out
[17:39] <k1l> TheXenith: install "gnome-shell" logout and then choose gnome on the login screen
[17:40] <Kelli> k1l, i have 3 options, using x.org X server open source, using proprietary from fglrx and proprietary from fglrx-updates
[17:40] <TheXenith> thank you bazhang and k1l
[17:40] <Kelli> which of the 3 do i want?
[17:40] <paigeinpink78MN> does anyone use the HDHomeRun PRIME?
[17:40] <Prezident> fgrlx Kelli.
[17:40] <Prezident> if you got AMD / ATI
[17:41] <k1l> Kelli: take the fglrx
[17:41] <paigeinpink78MN> ?
[17:43] <uuhimhere> is this apparmor on android: http://e2e.ti.com/support/embedded/android/f/509/t/258697
[17:43] <Prezident> Yes.
[17:44] <Pici> uuhimhere: What does that question have to do with #ubuntu ?
[17:48] <kite> hi! need help with ubuntu. acer timelinex 3820tg ati video card disabled in bios, intel video active. Problem - opengl renderer doesnt work, video renders very slowly...
[17:49] <Prezident> You running i915 module?
[17:49] <Prezident> Then it has to be modesetted 1 , you can do it with modprobe i915 modeset=1
[17:49] <Prezident> try that.
[17:49] <Prezident> Worked kite
[17:49] <Prezident> ?
[17:49] <Josh195> Hello?
[17:49] <Josh195> Hi all! :D
[17:49] <kite> just a sec
[17:50] <Josh195> How is everyone
[17:50] <kite> how can i see if im on i915?
[17:51] <Prezident> lspci -k
[17:51] <Prezident> easiest way.
[17:51] <jatt> why would you use the i915 driver if you have an ati card?
[17:51] <Josh195> guys i was wondering where the canberra gkt module was on a 64 bit sytem
[17:52] <Prezident> Ah, lol if you got ati i readed way to quick i saw you wanted activatet the intel driver with opengl.. Anyway try do "lspci -k" and seewich kernel is loaded atm ..
[17:52] <kite> yes, im on i915
[17:52] <Prezident> okey
[17:52] <Prezident> then just try modeset it with 1..
[17:52] <Prezident> sudo modprobe i915 modeset=1
[17:53] <jatt> if you have an ati card you should use the radeon or fglrx driver no?
[17:53] <kite> do i need to reboot after 'modprobe i915 modeset=1' ? it didnt help
[17:54] <Masterjedi688> Hello, can someone help please.  I just downloaded bodhi and I need help setting up my wireless DSL router
[17:54] <Prezident> no kite, then it dosnt work..
[17:54] <Josh195> I need help connecting my Chromebook with Crouton to Bluetooth
[17:54] <Prezident> try remove the i915 module and load the fglrx one.
[17:54] <jatt> lol
[17:54] <kite> Prezident im new to linux ;(
[17:55] <Prezident> Ok
[17:55] <hopkinsss> hi all
[17:55] <Prezident> Dunno how i can describe it easier :/
[17:55] <Masterjedi688> I'm new to bodhi.  Right now I'm on my iPad
[17:55] <k1l> Masterjedi688: yes, see on the bodhi site where the bodhi support is.
[17:55] <Josh195> hi hopkinss
[17:55] <kite> jatt i dont need ati, i need work time. with intel its 6 hours with ati 2.
[17:55] <Josh195> are you a linux master 420?
[17:55] <kite> Prezident i'l try and google for it
[17:56] <Prezident> as root: rmmod i915 && modprobe fglrx
[17:56] <jatt> anyway, the right thing to do is to install the correct drivers
[17:56] <k1l> Prezident: what? do you even know what you suggest to do there?
[17:56] <Prezident> Its temporary its nothing for perm until its set kite.
[17:56] <hopkinsss>  i have a laptop HP-G72 with ubuntu gnome 14.04.1LTS 64bit, i have a 2 gpu, intel graphics integrated + ati mobility radeon 5470, but ati don't work
[17:56] <andreas_> hello, the computer has been getting suspiclious slow after I set up a ftp server without passsword and too many permissions, I tried re-installing ubuntu but I have 4 hard drives mounted at the time, and only formated the one with ubuntu on. So I ran a rootkit scanner and was wondering if any one can take a look?
[17:56] <andreas_> http://pastebin.no/350o
[17:56] <Masterjedi688> I tried to google how to do it but I could not find it and the bodhisattva page does not open
[17:56] <Prezident> k1l: he running wrong module on wrong graphic card.
[17:57] <Josh195> Man this place is busy
[17:57] <Josh195> can anyone help me with bluetooth?
[17:57] <kite> Prezident i got module i915 is in use...
[17:58] <hopkinsss> i have a laptop HP-G72 with ubuntu gnome 14.04.1LTS 64bit, i have a 2 gpu, intel graphics integrated + ati mobility radeon 5470, but ati don't work
[17:58] <hopkinsss> i have a laptop HP-G72 with ubuntu gnome 14.04.1LTS 64bit, i have a 2 gpu, intel graphics integrated + ati mobility radeon 5470, but ati don't work
[17:58] <bazhang> Josh195, chromebook running chromeOS?
[17:58] <Josh195> ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[17:58] <Josh195> via crouton
[17:58] <bazhang> !info crouton
[18:01] <Josh195> I know its a difficult problem, i will pay if someone can get it working through paypay or something
[18:01] <Josh195> 10$?
[18:01] <Prezident> Whats wrong?
[18:01] <Prezident> I dont need any payment, just says what you need help with, i assume its ubuntu issue.
[18:02] <Josh195> my Toshiba 2 chromebook has bluetooth but when i launched ubuntu through crouton it says no adapter found
[18:02] <jhutchins> !bluetooth
[18:02] <Prezident> Josh195: i would suggest you to join #gentoo instead since chromeos is runned on gentoo source since 2010 or something. Probably better help there.
[18:03] <Josh195> it says "bluetooth not found" when i try to eneable the service
[18:03] <jhutchins> Josh195: See above.
[18:03] <Josh195> ok
[18:03] <Josh195> are there people on it?
[18:03] <Prezident> yes over 1000.
[18:03] <Josh195> wow
[18:04] <Josh195> alright
[18:04] <Josh195> thanks
[18:04] <Prezident> np
[18:04] <fspkwon91> Hey guys im having a configuration problem in KDE when i switch to plastik theme logout, and login my apps crash on startup and either kwin or the entire desktop locks up, has this bug been reported?
[18:04] <fspkwon91> Im on LTS btw
[18:05] <fspkwon91> i changed my settings to clear session on exit and start new session on startup, i am able to keep the classic kickoff menu as i thought that was causing it at first
[18:05] <fspkwon91> but it is either the window decoration engine itself or just the plastik theme
[18:05] <fspkwon91> or a bug in kwin or something im not too sure
[18:06] <fspkwon91> using standard buttons im able to logout and login just fine, so im not too bummed, i just like my classic xperience =p
[18:06] <Prezident> You can try #ubuntu-kde fspkwon91
[18:07] <fspkwon91> so install the ubuntu settings for KDE?
[18:07] <fspkwon91> because as of right now its working, and i highly doubt thats going to fix the plastik theme
[18:07] <fspkwon91> the theme itself has gone through bug fixes due to malalignment problems and such
[18:10] <ChokoIt> anybody here get turned on by feces?
[18:11] <io> bazhang:
[18:11] <ChokoIt> I do
[18:11] <phunyguy> meh.
[18:12] <MrAsk> Hello, I run lubuntu on netbook with 128 mb ram and it worked. But when I did same on system with 2gb ram desktop alone used 1gb. How the fuck can I contron it? I need ~1.6gb only for runing virtual machine I want. Am I fucked or is there something I can do?
[18:12] <bazhang> MrAsk, no cursing here
[18:12] <jhutchins> !ram
[18:13] <k1l> MrAsk: can you show a "free -m"
[18:13] <k1l> MrAsk: in a pastebin, obviously
[18:14] <fspkwon91> to run a virtual machine you need at least 1gb memory
[18:14] <fspkwon91> and itll run
[18:14] <fspkwon91> you need 512mb for ubuntu regardless with a paging file of course
[18:14] <fspkwon91> 756 out of the box
[18:14] <fspkwon91> so thats about 1.5gb for linux and a linux vm with desktop environment
[18:14] <fspkwon91> not counting the processor
[18:15] <jhutchins> fspkwon91: I've run ubuntu in 256M - I think I had it in 128M for a while. (12.04)
[18:15] <MrAsk> fspkwon91: for whonix I have to use 2 virtual machines one for getway one for workstation
[18:15] <fspkwon91> with a swap partition? more than likely
[18:15] <fspkwon91> for it to just sit in the ram
[18:15] <fspkwon91> its going to take up around 500-800mb
[18:15] <MrAsk> k1l: http://pastebin.com/v2mhjSEg
[18:15] <MrAsk> can I use swap and be safty if I want to encrypt system?
[18:16] <fspkwon91> with xfce or openbox maybe 256-512mb
[18:16] <k1l> MrAsk: please see the link: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[18:16] <fspkwon91> to install it maybe with a text installer on 128mb ram
[18:16] <k1l> MrAsk: it explains exactly how you have to interpret the ram usage on linux. you actually got 1747 "free" ram
[18:17] <fspkwon91> or with an old distro itll definitely work because it was built around those limitations
[18:17] <jhutchins> fspkwon91: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements <- 512M
[18:18] <fspkwon91> yeha im judging by how much my full desktop uses
[18:18] <fspkwon91> and it doesnt swap to disk at all
[18:18] <fspkwon91> even though i have a swap partition
[18:18] <MrAsk> thanks guys
[18:18] <fspkwon91> use a text installer and look into openbox
[18:19] <fspkwon91> openbox or xfce4
[18:19] <k1l> fspkwon91: i think we solved the issue already
[18:19] <fspkwon91> =[ im just throwing poop
[18:19] <fspkwon91> ahuhah!
[18:25] <arun_> guys, any news softwares released or gonna release?
[18:30] <patter> Hi
[18:30] <patter> Anybody
[18:30] <Tw33k> Hi
[18:31] <k1l> yes, a lot. just ask your ubuntu question
[18:31] <patter> Wat question??
[18:32] <k1l> patter: this is the ubuntu technical support channel
[18:33] <patter> Any other channels
[18:33] <k1l> !alis | patter
[18:36] <jhutchins> arun_: http://freecode.com/
[18:37] <jhutchins> arun_: http://sourceforge.net/home.html
[18:40] <MrAsk> which part of ubuntu documentation says how to disable ICMP timestamps?
[18:43] <OerHeks> MrAsk, 2 ways to do that, http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/07/disable-ping-response-ubuntu-server/
[18:43] <MrAsk> OerHeks: thanks
[18:47] <kokut> Hello, anyone knows how to add battery info to cairo dock?
[18:48] <brahdude> Any updates on the Ubuntu Arabic font?
[18:59] <hopkinsss> hi
[18:59] <hopkinsss> i have a laptop HP-G72 with ubuntu gnome 14.04.1LTS 64bit, i have a 2 gpu, intel graphics integrated + ati mobility radeon 5470, but ati don't work
[19:01] <DJones> hopkinsss: I wish I could help, I've got a Hp G72, but its only intel graphics, mine doesn't have dual graphics
[19:02] <caonicaldroid> why is nobody un ubuntu touch channel
[19:03] <DJones> caonicaldroid: I'msure there are, but as its a smaller channel, you may have to be patient waiting for a response
[19:04] <simosx> DJones, actually I replied to caonicaldroid within the minute he asked. He did not notice.
[19:04] <b43> what version of ubuntu has full apps and suites?
[19:05] <b43> lubuntu is just insufficient on a high end device
[19:05] <simosx> b43, your first option would be Ubuntu, 14.04.1
[19:06] <b43> simosx, thx for quick reply, does that come with the full apps and suites already, or they still need to be installed from synaptics?
[19:06] <GeertJohan> quick question. I'm building a new PC and wondering how AMD/ATI support is these days... I can remember from 4/5 years back that I had to get a nVidia because otherwise ubuntu/linux wouldn't have good support...
[19:07] <DJones> b43: Lubuntu/xubuntu/kubuntu/ubuntu all share the same app database, so they'll all all share the the same apps, but you may need to install them on whichever desktop you decide suits you
[19:07] <simosx> b43, 'synaptic' is not used/recommended anymore for package management purposes. There is the Software Centre, which has all sort of apps.
[19:08] <simosx> b43, there is a repository in the Software Centre called 'partner', that when enabled, has apps like Skype.
[19:08] <b43> djones, ok got it
[19:09] <b43> simosx, im tryin to find one where i dont have to manually install office suites, pdf editors, and other software, is there one or is it wishful thinkin?
[19:09] <b43> its a high end device, gaming unit
[19:10] <simosx> b43, since you mention a new PC, your best best is to use 'Ubuntu'. Office Suite, PDF reader and other software are preinstalled. If they are not, you can easily install them from the Software Centre (it's the App Store for Ubuntu).
[19:12] <b43> simosx, ok so regular ubuntu, because i started with lubuntu n it barely comes with anything, superfast bootin n loadin time, but i have to install so much
[19:13] <simosx> b43, that would be my recommendation.
[19:13] <b43> simosx, ok tyvm
[19:19] <CoreSaint> what would be the good way to manage init services, as it seems there is no one way to manage it properly, it is all over the place, i kind of use "chmod -x /etc/init.d/<service>" method but i know it is not the good way of doing this, unfortunately it seems the only way that works, any tips on how to do it differently
[19:23] <linuxlite> guys can i add kali linux tools to my linux lite?
[19:24] <DJones> linuxlite: No idea, if you install Ubuntu we may be able to help you, but we have no idea about 3rd party distributions
[19:24] <bazhang> ask in the linuxlite support forums
[19:24] <thelegendmink> is there a way to detect ddos attacks automatically?
[19:26] <steeven44> cc sa vas
[19:27] <DJones> !fr | steeven44
[19:28] <Programmer_> hmm
[19:39] <Guest33992> im currently on a live usb i succesfully installed ubuntu alongside a previous installation of ubuntu 8 and an ntfs partition with my files can i resize my former installtion of ubuntu i have run out of space on my cnewest install
[19:39] <PinealGlandOptic> hi everyone. I'm looking for simple newsletter software. maybe PHP script. MailMan is heavyweight for me. what would you suggest?
[19:40] <Guest33992> my drive is 500gb 200gb are formatted to ntfs 10gb are unused i would like to extend my home directory to install more software
[19:41] <Guest33992> anyone listening
[19:41] <davidkron2> Hi, do you know whats wrong with samba if i can only connect localy when i use localhost or 127.0.0.1 but not the local ip
[19:42] <davidkron2> I get NT_STATUS_UNSUCCESSFUL on 192.168.147 but not on 127.0.0.1
[19:45] <Guest33992> #nick josh
[19:45] <Prezident>  /nick nickname
[19:45] <felix_mc> hey guys, I have a simple openldap server, what do I need to configure both client and server side to get pam_mount to work with it?
[19:46] <Guest33992> so
[19:46] <Guest33992> gah]]
[19:47] <Guest33992> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10260792/
[19:47] <Guest33992> help resizing
[19:48] <terratian> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10260792/
[19:49] <MonkeyDust> !details | terratian
[19:49] <terratian> I want sdb2 to merge with sdb5
[19:50] <terratian> i have run out of space
[19:50] <bekks> terratian: Pastebin sudo fdisk -l please
[19:50] <k1l_> terratian: well, use gparted?
[19:50] <terratian> i booted from live usb have gparted open
[19:51] <Bashing-om> terratian: A picture from GParted is worth a thousand words .
[19:51] <foundit> everytime i log into ubuntu it says i need to install the same update, it says some are from an untrusted source, i say ok, it says it installs, then it says the same thing next time i log in
[19:51] <terratian> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10260851/
[19:51] <foundit> one of the updates is for chromium too which i uninstalled.
[19:51] <terratian> fdisk paste
[19:52] <bekks> terratian: Which Ubuntu is that?
[19:52] <k1l_> terratian: well, sdb5 is inside an extended partition. so you cant merge that.
[19:53] <terratian> i have three ubuntu installs on disk, i only need one
[19:54] <terratian> how would i merge
[19:55] <terratian> i have ubuntu 14 ubuntu 8 and ubuntu 10
[19:55] <k1l_> terratian: which partition do you want to erase?
[19:56] <terratian> i assume the partition with the astrick is my current install
[19:56] <k1l_> terratian: you can only erase one partition and then put the free space into the other partitions.
[19:57] <k1l_> well. to be sure you could boot into your favorite ubuntu and see "mount" there
[19:57] <terratian> sdb2 sdb3 sdb7 would be amazing to have as a place to further expand my ubuntu 14 installation
[19:57] <platz> nvidia package depends on lightdm | gdm | kdm .. is there any way to uninstall lightdm completely without forcing another graphical login manager to be installed?
[19:57] <k1l_> terratian: sdb3 is a extended one. its like a container where 5,6,7 are put in.
[19:57] <terratian> is my assumption correct about the astrix
[19:58] <terratian> k1l_ i see
[19:58] <k1l_> terratian: the asterisk is the boot flag. but ubuntu doesnt use that flag at all. i would boot into it and see what exact partition is mounted as / to be sure
[19:58] <david1> hi, do you guys have any idea what problem im having with samba, i cant connect localy using 192.. only using localhost or 127.0.01
[19:59] <jatt> post exact command you try and error message
[19:59] <david1> smbclient -U guest //192.168.147/movies
[19:59] <david1> NT_STATUS_UNSUCCESSFUL
[19:59] <EriC^^> you're missing an octet there
[20:00] <terratian> sdb7 is where ubuntu 14 is installed
[20:00] <k1l_> the ip is not completed
[20:01] <jhutchins> terratian: Since you're messing with partitions, you should have a backup.  Since you have a backup, you can simply repartition the drive, format, and restore.
[20:01] <david1> hmm correct, thanks
[20:01] <david1> now i just need to get it working from my client...
[20:01] <terratian> jhutchins ?
[20:02] <jhutchins> terratian: There really isn't a way to merge live filesystems.
[20:03] <OShobbit> could someone tell me if I am able to bulk rename folders using the rename command?
[20:03] <jhutchins> terratian: You can grow or shrink them, but you can only grow them if there is adjacent free space.
[20:03] <EriC^^> OShobbit: yes
[20:03] <OShobbit> ok so how do I get it to know I want folders renamed?
[20:03] <jhutchins> terratian: If you had set them up in LVM you could join two partitions together into one space, but you couldn't save the data on them.
[20:03] <terratian> oh so i cant make free space before the installation
[20:04] <nick___> I have the Intel n2840 SoC with an integrated Max98090 audio driver ... I can play audio, but I cannot change the volume ... could you please advice me where I can start debugging this issue from?
[20:04] <k1l_> terratian: this is on a harddisk, right?
[20:04] <terratian> i cant make some sort of link to my home directory that ubunut14 installs data to
[20:04] <OShobbit> jhutchins, thats good, so how do I get it to know I want folders renamed?
[20:04] <terratian> yes
[20:05] <terratian> k1l_ i am booted currently on usb looking at hd
[20:05] <EriC^^> OShobbit: usual usage applies
[20:06] <david1> smbclient -U guest //192.168.1.147/movies
[20:06] <k1l_> terratian: did you confirm what you thought? because you will need to erase some partitions.
[20:06] <david1> On my laptop gives:
[20:06] <david1> NT_STATUS_INVALID_NETWORK_RESPONSE
[20:06] <k1l_> david1: is guest mode enabled?
[20:06] <MonkeyDust> david1  can you ping it?
[20:07] <terratian> where can i post a screenshot of gparted
[20:07] <david1> ping <ip> you mean? it responds
[20:07] <terratian> i want to erase some partitions
[20:07] <k1l_> terratian: imgur.com
[20:07] <david1> smbclient -L //192.168.1.147 -U% ------- also fails
[20:08] <ikonia> that suggests your host is not responding
[20:08] <ikonia> (or responding with a good response)
[20:09] <david1> wierd
[20:09] <terratian> http://imgur.com/mzd3uNQ
[20:09] <azizLIGHT> What ubuntu is the next LTS?
[20:09] <EriC^^> 16.04
[20:10] <MonkeyDust> azizLIGHT  that's in april 2016
[20:10] <jhutchins> david1: I believe samba still uses a "listen" directive that tells it what address to listen on.
[20:10] <terratian> this is what gparted shows http://imgur.com/mzd3uNQ
[20:11] <azizLIGHT> Ah ok
[20:11] <azizLIGHT> I thought it was 15.04 for some reason
[20:11] <ikonia> default is * all interfaces
[20:11] <jhutchins> terratian: Do you have backups in case you kill the wrong partition?
[20:11] <ikonia> so the "bind" parameter needs to be set to lock it to an interface
[20:11] <terratian> As long as i dont destroy the ntfs i really dont care
[20:12] <terratian> i dont have a way to back that data up
[20:12] <jhutchins> terratian: Then you need to back up the NTFS.
[20:12] <terratian> i suppose i need to reinstall
[20:13] <terratian> Must be a way to do what I am trying
[20:13] <terratian> i hate manually setting up partitioning
[20:13] <terratian> for install
[20:13] <k1l_> terratian: i dont know what linux partition is what ubuntu etc
[20:13] <k1l_> terratian: as i said, its you to sort that out.
[20:14] <terratian> sdb7 is ubuntu 14
[20:14] <terratian> everything else is irrelevant besides ntfs partition
[20:14] <ikonia> it's not irrelevant
[20:14] <ikonia> changing 1 partition has an impact on the others
[20:14] <terratian> does ubuntu not have symlinks
[20:15] <ikonia> what does symlinks have to do with anything ?
[20:15] <k1l_> terratian: if you want you could erase sdb2, then increase the sdb3 which is the exxtended one. then increase the sdb7 one.
[20:16] <terratian> my language for computers is weak but cant i somehow 'tell' ubuntu to install software in free space other than on the home partition
[20:17] <k1l_> terratian: you setup there is quite strange anyway. imho ditch the old ubuntus you dont use anyway and make one proper install with enough space for a daily usage
[20:17] <sm_>  /EXEC rm -vf /home/sm/.xchat2/buduscript/tmp/budus_XDCC_2040.query
[20:19] <Bashing-om> terratian: +1 k1l_ :; Unless you also resize the Windows'partition 'sdb1' still will have a very small partition for ubuntu . I see often recommended the least for ubuntu 30 gigs.
[20:21] <terratian> can i resize the windows partition without destroying data
[20:21] <k1l_> theoretically: yes. but as we know murphys law: better have a backup :)
[20:22] <Bashing-om> terratian: There is ALWAYS that risk of data loss in moving partitions. Back up Windows prior to resizing ( defrag X2, check disk X2 ) .
[20:22] <danofsatx> my apt-mirror script isn't fully working - it is throwing up a lot of errors saying it can't find a file, yet I can wget that exact file from the sytem that is running apt-mirror. for examplem, on of the files it can't find is ppa.launchpad.net/yannubuntu/boot-repair/ubuntu//dists/utopic/main/debian-installer/binary-amd64/Packages.gz
[20:22] <terratian> i fly by the seat of my pants, i suppose i will re-install resize windows and do it right
[20:22] <terratian> x2?
[20:23] <Bashing-om> terratian: Twice = X2 .. makes sure Windows' partition table is intact and accurate.
[20:23] <MonkeyDust> terratian  sometimes it's better to start over, instead of reparing things
[20:24] <MonkeyDust> terratian  and always backup first, before you start changing partitions
[20:29] <xeno-k> hi
[20:29] <sm_> hi guys
[20:29] <xeno-k> hi sm_
[20:29] <terratian> term command for defrag and chkdsk?
[20:29] <xeno-k> fsck
[20:30] <k1l_> terratian: use windows to defrag windows. ubuntu doesnt need defrag
[20:30] <terratian> i dont have wondows just an ntfs partition
[20:31] <xeno-k> terratian maybe defraggler has a linux ver
[20:31] <xeno-k> or if it hasnt use wine
[20:31] <terratian> i have hated windows ever since i deltreed internet explorer in college when i tried to rid it from windows 98
[20:36] <OERIAS> Hi, I set Nemo as the default file manager in Unity, however when ever I play an optical disk or usb flash drive or some mobile device, nautilus launches, any help?
[20:39] <terratian> http://imgur.com/Mpsb5kq
[20:39] <terratian> this is what i have to install ubuntu on now
[20:40] <terratian> i need help manually seeting up lvm and partition
[20:40] <inex> !patience
[20:42] <terratian> http://imgur.com/Mpsb5kq this shows what i have to install ubuntu on i could use some help m,anually setting up for the install
[20:43] <terratian> is this a complicated request
[20:45] <alphaomega28> I am getting this error when I try to restart apache and I am wondering if anyone might know why: "(process:1562): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_boxed_type_register_static: assertion 'g_type_from_name (name) == 0' failed"
[20:45] <alphaomega28> Thanks.
[20:45] <MonkeyDust> OERIAS  look for this file:  ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list
[20:46] <MonkeyDust> OERIAS  open it with gedit
[20:47] <BluesKaj> terratian:  click on change and set the partition to ext4 and check the format box, then install now
[20:47] <terratian> blueskaj that will give me lvm?
[20:48] <OERIAS> MonkeyDust, i opened the file
[20:48] <OERIAS> now what?
[20:48] <terratian> Change is greyed out only plus sign
[20:49] <BluesKaj> terratian:  only if you choose the lvm oprtion, if one appears
[20:49] <MonkeyDust> OERIAS  ok, now paste this line in the list   inode/directory=nemo.desktop
[20:49] <jhutchins> terratian: What features of LVM do you plan to use?
[20:49] <terratian> that wants to delete my ntfs file systme which has data
[20:49] <OERIAS> on default or add applications?
[20:49] <terratian> i need help setting up mount points
[20:49] <MonkeyDust> OERIAS  guess it doesnt matter where
[20:50] <feliwir> hey
[20:50] <terratian> I just assumed lvm was something i would want to do
[20:50] <OERIAS> restart unity or restart nemo?
[20:50] <feliwir> when installing ubuntu 15.04 the installation gets stuck at "creating ext4 partitiont"
[20:50] <jhutchins> terratian: I like the idea of keeping things simple and not adding things you're not going to actually use.
[20:50] <feliwir> i am using an ssd and it doesnt have any bad sectors
[20:50] <MonkeyDust> OERIAS  logout and in again
[20:50] <feliwir> help is appreciated
[20:50] <Bashing-om> terratian: Homework time. LVM = Logical Volume Management. What other 'volumes' are you going to make available for LVM to set up on ? LVM can be a steep learning curve, sure you want to go there ?
[20:51] <MonkeyDust> !15.04 | feliwir
[20:51] <k1l_> feliwir: 15.04 is still not stable. use #ubuntu+1 please
[20:51] <terratian> steep learning curves equals me screwing up my ntfs data...
[20:51] <OERIAS> thank you MonkeyDust
[20:51] <feliwir> yeah, but i saw this error for older versions aswell
[20:51] <MonkeyDust> OERIAS  works?
[20:51] <OERIAS> let me try
[20:51] <MonkeyDust> OERIAS  thank me if it works
[20:52] <terratian> my question becomes what mount points do i need to create and what sizes, the free space on this drive needs ubuntu
[20:52] <terratian> http://imgur.com/Mpsb5kq
[20:52] <jhutchins> terratian: For a general purpose system I would keep one main partition and swap.  Keep it simple.
[20:53] <terratian> so set the mount point to home
[20:53] <OERIAS> MonkeyDust, no luck
[20:53] <jhutchins> terratian: If you chop the system up in to partitions you pretty much guarantee that you will eventually run out of space on one and have plenty on another.
[20:53] <vivid> no, set the mount point to root /
[20:53] <OERIAS> It still launches nautilus
[20:53] <terratian> what is a genrous amount for swap?
[20:53] <jhutchins> terratian: Yep, what vivid said, set it to /
[20:53] <vivid> generous would be the amount of ram available i would say
[20:53] <jhutchins> terratian: 2X ram to 2GB, 1X for 4 or above.
[20:54] <terratian> i have 4gb of ram so set swap to 8gb
[20:54] <jhutchins> terratian: You need at least as much swap as RAM if you're going to suspend to disk.
[20:54] <MonkeyDust> OERIAS  then maybe in dconf editor, moment
[20:54] <terratian> the rest goes to root?
[20:54] <k1l_> swap=ram if you want swap for hibernation.
[20:55] <jhutchins> terratian: Yep.
[20:55] <terratian> here we go!!!!
[20:55] <jhutchins> Managing more than 4G of swap is cumbersome, I usually don't go higher than that even if there's more ram.
[20:55] <terratian> type should be ticked to logical or primary?
[20:56] <jhutchins> terratian: primary
[20:56] <MonkeyDust> OERIAS  install dconf-editor
[20:56] <terratian> specifically should i set primary for swap first or root?
[20:57] <vivid> it doesnt matter
[20:57] <terratian> ok
[20:57] <OERIAS> MonkeyDust, dconf-editor is already insalled
[20:58] <MonkeyDust> OERIAS  great, but nvm... read this.. http://www.fandigital.com/2013/01/set-nemo-default-file-manager-ubuntu.html
[20:58] <Bashing-om> terratian: I would suggest that '/' be set as primary . ( can have a max of 4 primary partitions, one of which mey be an 'extended' partition) . then make up the extended partition and in this extended partition make up the swap partition . // only a suggestion .
[20:59] <terratian> http://imgur.com/Q7t4WVO
[21:00] <OERIAS> MonkeyDust, yes I did follow that tutorial
[21:00] <OERIAS> it manages the desktop
[21:00] <OERIAS> but nautilus still performs some actions
[21:01] <MonkeyDust> OERIAS  yes, same here
[21:01] <MonkeyDust> moment
[21:02] <OShobbit> sorry to ask the same thing twice, but can I have an example of how rename can be used to change folder names?
[21:03] <jhutchins> OShobbit: In the time you've been asking you could probably have renamed all of the folders manually, or just tried the command to see for yourself.
[21:03] <Bashing-om> terratian: Looks maybe doable, I do reserve judgement as I see '/' as sdb5 , rather than as expected 'sdb3' . Do not know what transpired there ! 3 primary partitions will work .
[21:04] <terratian> I switched it / comes first now follwed by 4gb swap
[21:05] <vivid> it was sdb5 probably because he selected at end of drive
[21:06] <jhutchins> Partition numbering is not necessarily in physical order on the disk.
[21:08] <MonkeyDust> OERIAS  what is "some actions" for you?
[21:08] <Exagone313> hello, when I use apt-get install it install automaticcaly without saying yes or no. how to disable this?
[21:08] <jk> why cant i change my desktop environment on login in the unity greeter in ubuntu 14.04?
[21:09] <vivid> click the ubuntu logo next to the login line
[21:09] <Exagone313> it's an edited ubuntu server i think (by edited i mean configuration, default installed packages etc...)
[21:09] <jk> vivid: there is none
[21:09] <k1l_> Exagone313: if it only installs that one pacakge there is no question about that
[21:09] <Exagone313> ?
[21:09] <Exagone313> when i use apt-get install at home or on my others server it does not do this
[21:10] <OERIAS> MonkeyDust, like put in an optical disk, or opening the rubbish bin, or when an application give you the option to show a file via file manager.
[21:10] <jk> vivid: i know that icon from 12.04 but it seems to be gone in 14.04
[21:11] <terratian> thanks for your help everyone, install going swimmingly.\
[21:12] <betim> hi, just installed ubuntu 14.01 but I'm having a problem with mouse cursor, I would like to use Inherits=core, but on some programs, like firefox it reverts to DMZ-Black, how can I fix this?
[21:13] <jhutchins> Exagone313: Did you change the apt configuration?
[21:14] <jhutchins> Exagone313: If what you're installing is an exact match with no dependencies it assumes that you wanted to install it and doesn't bug you.
[21:14] <jhutchins> Exagone313: If it does pull dependencies or is not an exact match it should ask.
[21:14] <MonkeyDust> OERIAS  ok, open dconf editor and go to   org nemo preferences
[21:14] <Exagone313> ok there was no dependencies
[21:15] <Exagone313> ok thanks
[21:15] <MonkeyDust> OERIAS  havent found it yet, tho
[21:15] <jk> oh, it reappeared after i installed a second desktop environment
[21:15] <emi_> hi
[21:16] <OERIAS> I wish Ubuntu would have nemo as default
[21:16] <MonkeyDust> OERIAS  everyone has different wishes
[21:17] <OERIAS> true.
[21:17] <emi_> hi every one
[21:19] <MonkeyDust> OERIAS  it says here, it *can* be done, but not easily, you'd have to purge and reinstall nautilus, after nemo is installed http://askubuntu.com/questions/391230/how-to-remove-nautilus-without-screwing-up-unity
[21:20] <tgp1994>  Hi everyone - I currently have ubuntu installed to a portable HDD, sort of a as a portable diagnostics system. Eventually, one of my computers will be getting a new HDD. My question is, can I boot from this portable HDD, then run the Ubuntu installer from the live desktop to install a fresh copy of Ubuntu to the new HDD?
[21:22] <OERIAS> MonkeyDust, that's what i figured. Since it is dependent on Nautilus
[21:24] <FOSSAddict> hi, i want to use gparted to shrink my windows partition but it says ntfs is unsupported and requires ntfsprogs / ntfs-3g, even through i installed ntfs-3g
[21:30] <Bashing-om> FOSSAddict: Windows' tools for Windows' file system. Ubuntu tools for ubuntu issues. Best advise I can give.
[21:31] <FOSSAddict> the tutorial i read said gparted would be faster than any tools available on windows in shrinking the windows partition <.<
[21:33] <SCHAAP137> FOSSAddict, ask in the ##windows channel
[21:34] <platz> nvidia package depends on lightdm | gdm | kdm .. is there any way to uninstall lightdm completely without forcing another graphical login manager to be installed?
[21:34] <FOSSAddict> okay ill try, thanks
[21:36] <nss> Hello, I am trying to dualboot Windows 98 and Lubuntu but ran into some problems with partitioning. Windows 98 is already installed but needed to format the entire disk as FAT32 for itself and I can't seem to resize it.
[21:37] <FangornTheEnt> Hi, I'm trying to make a bootable usb for Mac because the mac isn't currently working. How can I do it either with an application or computer that currently has Linux?
[21:37] <SCHAAP137> FangornTheEnt, use unetbootin
[21:38] <SCHAAP137> FangornTheEnt: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[21:38] <FangornTheEnt> "Note that resulting USB drives are bootable only on PCs (not on Macs)"
[21:38] <SCHAAP137> ah, didn't see that
[21:39] <FangornTheEnt> It's ok. I need it to boot on a mac.
[21:51] <tnkhanh> Hi when will 14.04 have Java 8?
[21:51] <tnkhanh> I mean in repo
[21:54] <_com_> hi
[21:56] <MonkeyDust> tnkhanh  if you don't get answer here, try this    Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com>
[21:58] <jhutchins> tnkhanh: It won't.  The packages are frozen at this point, they won't be advancing major versions.
[22:02] <freitas310> #emacs
[22:13] <_com_> i need support with the following problem: is there any bug correlation between systemd / upstart configs. and no hdmi output? thanks!
[22:15] <ObrienDave> more likely a driver issue
[22:16] <caonicaldroid> What channel is devoted to devving ubuntu apps?
[22:17] <caonicaldroid> ?
[22:17] <k1l_> what sort of apps?
[22:18] <caonicaldroid> I am looking to make a game similar to minecraft.
[22:18] <_com_> obriendave: failed to start user service: unknown unit: user@1000.service. since yesterday there is no more hdmi support. only these reports in my log. seems like a false correlation? thanks.
[22:18] <caonicaldroid> I know little about coding but it may be a good little project because i want to run minecraft on here but it will not work
[22:18] <k1l_> caonicaldroid: #ubuntu-app-devel
[22:19] <caonicaldroid> thanks
[22:20] <bren_comp> If you have systemd, there's your first problem. Aha.
[22:21] <_com_> bren_comp: using upstart.
[22:23] <m1dnight_> guys i'm having some strange behaviour with ssh keys
[22:23] <m1dnight_> I just created a new sshpair named "webspace" in ~/.ssh on my ubuntu *serveR*
[22:24] <m1dnight_> I then wanted to do ssh-copy-id, but I had to execute eval `ssh-agent` first. Then I did "ssh-add webspace"
[22:24] <_com_> bren_comp: it's like a shot. no hdmi, but fancy systemd-login logs.:-)
[22:24] <m1dnight_> when I then tried to ssh to my webspace everything worked fine. When i dsconnect the ssh sessions and come back, it's the same story again.
[22:25] <m1dnight_> (i.e, asking for my password instead of using my ssh key)
[22:25] <caonicaldroid> Anyone want to partner up and do something on ubuntu lol Im bored
[22:28] <skinnydude> Hey, when I spoof a mac address, It resets to the default when I connect to the network. I've tried editing the permissions.rules, and even then it still resets to the default. Does anyone know a fix?
[22:30] <bekks> skinnydude: Ask your network administrator ;)
[22:31] <skinnydude> I don't believe its on the network side... It works when I do it from windows.
[22:40] <christian3399> Hey guys... Is this the support chat?
[22:40] <bekks> christian3399: Yes it is.
[22:40] <k1l_> christian3399: yes. ubuntu support channel
[22:41] <christian3399> Awesome! I have just installed Ubuntu and I don't know how to set up a new wi-fi connection...
[22:41] <bren_comp> Can you connect to a network? Do you have the drivers installed?
[22:42] <christian3399> It is saying my wireless switch is off, but I can't switch it back... It is a button and it continually stays orange, not blue like it does when on...
[22:42] <wilsonb> howdy
[22:42] <k1l_> what gives you "rfkill list"? put it in a pastebin
[22:43] <christian3399> It worked fine in Windows, so I don't know why it doesn't do it here...
[22:43] <christian3399> Okay I will...
[22:43] <bren_comp> I'd say just try doing an ethernet connection first, haha.
[22:43] <christian3399> 1: phy0: Wireless LAN
[22:43] <christian3399> 	Soft blocked: no
[22:43] <christian3399> 	Hard blocked: yes
[22:44] <wilsonb>  Using Ubuntu 14.10, is anyone else experiencing a double login / log off ? Example, I go up to top right and shutdown, then a few seconds later the main Ubuntu logon screen comes on and have to click the power/ shutdown again to shut down
[22:45] <k1l_> what laptop is it?
[22:45] <wilsonb> Dell
[22:45] <christian3399> I am on an Ethernet connection right now...
[22:45] <bren_comp> Oh well uh, that makes sense.
[22:46] <christian3399> Has anyone here set up a wi-fi connection before?
[22:47] <k1l_> christian3399: the hard blocked is the issue
[22:47] <k1l_> what laptop is it?
[22:47] <christian3399> That's what I thought... It is a Compaq Presario
[22:48] <k1l_> christian3399: what is the "rfkill list" output after "sudo rfkill unblock all"?
[22:48] <christian3399> 1: phy0: Wireless LAN
[22:48] <christian3399> 	Soft blocked: no
[22:48] <christian3399> 	Hard blocked: yes
[22:49] <christian3399> Still the same I think...
[22:50] <k1l_> the more details you give the better the support is :)
[22:50] <k1l_> what does "lspci" name for that wifi card?
[22:50] <christian3399> Oh okay... I don't know exactly what you need...
[22:51] <christian3399> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile GME965/GLE960 Memory Controller Hub (rev 0c)
[22:51] <christian3399> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GME965/GLE960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)
[22:51] <christian3399> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GME965/GLE960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)
[22:51] <christian3399> 00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 03)
[22:51] <christian3399> 00:1a.7 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2 (rev 03)
[22:51] <christian3399> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[22:52] <k1l_> !paste | christian3399
[22:53] <christian3399> Sorry... I am still new to this...
[22:53] <christian3399> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile GME965/GLE960 Memory Controller Hub (rev 0c)
[22:53] <christian3399> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GME965/GLE960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)
[22:53] <christian3399> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GME965/GLE960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)
[22:53] <christian3399> 00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 03)
[22:53] <christian3399> 00:1a.7 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2 (rev 03)
[22:53] <ObrienDave> rofl
[22:53] <k1l_> christian3399: stop. use a pasteservice as the bot told you
[22:54] <Basketball> !ops | christian3399
[22:54] <Laban> Hello!
[22:54] <k1l_> Basketball: no need for that
[22:54] <ObrienDave> Basketball, that was not necessary
[22:55] <ubuntu1515> hi
[22:55] <Basketball> hey
[22:55] <ubuntu1515> I've got a problem running 14.04
[22:55] <ubuntu1515> on my sony vaio
[22:56] <ubuntu1515> I've tried changing the bootorder in windows and on a live cd
[22:56] <ubuntu1515> to no avail
[22:56] <giuseppe_82> hi all
[22:56] <ObrienDave> which model VAIO?
[22:56] <giuseppe_82> does anyone know how to get nvidia-96 legacy driver working on xorg>1.12 and newer kernels? I'm using nouveau driver but i'm having some problems. Can anyone help? Btw I have an old GeForce4 MMX agp 8x. Thanks in advance
[22:57] <ubuntu1515> SVE14A3V1E
[22:57] <giuseppe_82> shall I upgrade my video card? :(
[22:58] <Laban> Looks like my system isn't logging anything anymore. I've restarted rsyslogd (and the machine) but it just looks weird. Nothing in /var/log/syslog or messages. Enabled logging in 50-default.conf as well.
[22:58] <ubuntu1515> you should prob
[22:58] <Laban> Any idea how to solve?
[23:00] <giuseppe_82> nouveau driver really sucks on my gpu
[23:00] <andril> same here
[23:00] <k1l_> giuseppe_82: well, that card is plain old.
[23:00] <andril> running 14.04 on my Dell Latitude e6530
[23:01] <giuseppe_82> andril, you have that video card too?
[23:01] <krabador> !italian | giuseppe_82
[23:02] <giuseppe_82> krabador, i'm not talking italian i guess. unless i've turned crazy
[23:02] <giuseppe_82> so what was that for?
[23:02] <krabador> giuseppe_82, it's to tell you abount the official italian ubuntu irc channel
[23:03] <_com_> is there any structure to solve problems like :  if ... then, and so on. my problem is, there is no hdmi-output since yesterday, and i don't know why. it's like a creatio ex nihilo. thanks.
[23:03] <giuseppe_82> thank you, it's very kind from you
[23:04] <giuseppe_82> ..
[23:04] <acovrig> anyone gotten the lexmark 5650 to work in ubuntu?
[23:04] <giuseppe_82> k1l_, I tried installing last legacy 96 driver, i've spent all night
[23:05] <giuseppe_82> modyfing the .run package, there's no way to do it
[23:06] <andril> giuseppe_82, nope mine is ivy bridge
[23:06] <k1l_> giuseppe_82: nvidia drops old cards. if that card is not supported by nvidia, well use the open source one or get a new card
[23:07] <giuseppe_82> i guess i'd need an agp one supported by nvidia. can you suggest anything?
[23:09] <digcloud> I have a script that produces a zip file with a version number in it. I then want to run another command against that file, but I need to get the filename. Is there some way to do that (maybe sed/awk)?
[23:10] <k1l_> giuseppe_82: sorry, i dnt mind agp cards anymore.
[23:11] <jatt> basename
[23:11] <anonymous_> hi
[23:11] <anonymous_> french
[23:12] <k1l_> !fr
[23:12] <bekks> giuseppe_82: nvidia doent support aGP cards anymore.
[23:12] <anonymous_> ubuntu-fr
[23:14] <giuseppe_82> really?
[23:19] <_com_> i have no hdmi-output since yesterday. maybe there are some modules not loaded. but i don't know how to proof.
[23:26] <Arnie25> is it possible to disable visualizations in ubuntu? I have a laptop with i7 cpu but apparently the graphics card is not strong enough to handle the fade-in/out animations of the GUI windows. I am running ubuntu with virtualbox and I installed the virtualbox app using apt-get, but i am still getting very slow fadein/out animations.
[23:28] <k1l_> so its ubuntu inside the virtualbox?
[23:28] <k1l_> did you install the guest-additions there?
[23:28] <Arnie25> k1l_: yes
[23:29] <OerHeks> Arnie25, checked the settings, has the GPU the max memory ? that can solve those issues, also enable 3d
[23:29] <Arnie25> i installed: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-guest-dkms virtualbox-guest-utils virtualbox-guest-x11
[23:29] <Arnie25> ok let me check
[23:31] <Arnie25> OerHeks: total memory available is 128mb
[23:31] <Arnie25> should I give it half?
[23:32] <ObrienDave> don't use fade in/out
[23:33] <ObrienDave> you're running a virtual machine. it will NEVER have the same performance
[23:33] <Arnie25> how do i disable fadein/out?
[23:34] <ObrienDave> that would be in the guest OS settings somewhere
[23:38] <hiccupFunction> hello there, is there a way to remove an unwanted wifi network from your available networks list? it is constantly auto-connected as the first one.
[23:38] <hiccupFunction> I mean remove permanently
[23:39] <caonicaldroid> ubuntu wont recognize my samsung galaxy proclaim (SCH-S720C)
[23:43] <wilsonb> howdy
[23:43] <wilsonb> Using Ubuntu 14.10, is anyone else experiencing a double login / log off ? Example, I go up to top right and shutdown, then a few seconds later the main Ubuntu logon screen comes on and have to click the power/ shutdown again to shut down...Sound familiar?
[23:43] <gigi> oj
[23:44] <gigi> u
[23:46] <LordDragon> hey all. i am having trouble installing ubuntu. everything works fine until the ifnal step, the bootloader. no matter what i choose, it says "failed"
[23:46] <daftykins> LordDragon: computer details?
[23:46] <LordDragon> i tried my windows drive, the 2nd hdd i isntalled ubuntu to
[23:46] <LordDragon> sda is windows 8.1
[23:46] <LordDragon> sdab is storage media hdd
[23:47] <LordDragon> sdc is ssd i am installin gubuntu to
[23:47] <creatorb> LorDragon: do you mean grub error ?
[23:47] <LordDragon> yes
[23:47] <daftykins> 'gubuntu' ?
[23:47] <LordDragon> grub-install fails
[23:47] <LordDragon> daftykins: typo :)
[23:47] <daftykins> so windows 8.1 is EFI installed?
[23:47] <LordDragon> yes
[23:47] <daftykins> and you booted ubuntu media in EFI mode?
[23:48] <LordDragon> uh. nope. how do i do that?
[23:48] <LordDragon> ohh wait i think i ight know
[23:48] <daftykins> !uefi | LordDragon Check here
[23:48] <LordDragon> wow i never thought there was sa difference booting "usb drive" and "EFI: usb drive"
[23:48] <daftykins> sure is
[23:48] <LordDragon> wow that explains it
[23:49] <LordDragon> btw where is the best place to put the bootloader? windows drive? id like to be able to use windows bootloader to do it
[23:49] <daftykins> you must boot EFI and make sure you're selecting the small FAT EFI partition on sda and make it Ubuntu's /boot, the installer should do this for you
[23:49] <daftykins> LordDragon: Windows to pass to GRUB? mmmmm no.
[23:50] <EriC^^> LordDragon: what do you mean by windows bootloader?
[23:50] <LordDragon> BCD
[23:50] <LordDragon> i think thats what its called
[23:50] <daftykins> LordDragon: concentrate on making it work right once, first
[23:51] <daftykins> then you may mess to your hearts content :) but on your own time
[23:51] <LordDragon> ok boot efi mode. gonna resinatll now
[23:51] <EriC^^> ok
[23:54] <EriC^^> LordDragon: i can't see how booting in non uefi mode would cause grub to fail, it would try to install grub to the mbr, and create a bios-boot partition
[23:54] <LordDragon> hmm i dunno
[23:54] <mcc> Hello... I am experimenting with an Ubuntu livecd... it is Ubuntu 14.10 on a Yoga 3 (nonpro)... I booted onto the livecd (on a usb stick) and played with it some last night... I then closed/slept the device until this morning... just i took it out and turned it on, the screen was black and the mouse cursor was visible, and i couldn't do anything or click on anything...
[23:54] <EriC^^> i can see it failing if you booted in efi mode and you actually used msdos usually
[23:54] <mcc> i then closed it again, opened it again and pressed a keyboard key, and the screen came back...
[23:55] <EriC^^> LordDragon: are you still in the installation process or
[23:55] <LordDragon> yes
[23:55] <mcc> this is very odd... have you ever seen anything like this, do you know i there might have been a way out of that?
[23:55] <LordDragon> its installing now
[23:55] <EriC^^> ok
[23:55] <LordDragon> daftykins: so even though sda is my windows drive, i want to choose that for bootloader?
[23:55] <daftykins> mcc: no point even trying to comment on a live session on a modern laptop.
[23:56] <mcc> daftykins: okay. you anticipate an installed copy would work better?
[23:56] <daftykins> LordDragon: EFI works with a FAT partition for EFI boot at the start of the disk, this is where an EFI booted Ubuntu would place boot files.
[23:57] <daftykins> LordDragon: it is nothing like legacy boot, wherein GRUB can be places elsewhere and just a boot sector point to the relevant place
[23:57] <LordDragon> daftykins: ok so its automatic then
[23:57] <LordDragon> yep completeed with no errors
[23:57] <LordDragon> woot
[23:57] <daftykins> it *might* be automatic
[23:57] <daftykins> :>
[23:57] <daftykins> mcc: well for one thing an installed copy can install updates
[23:58] <daftykins> mcc: but i would try 14.04.1 first, not 14.10 necessarily - have you googled online for success on that model?
[23:58] <LordDragon> and im in :)
[23:58] <LordDragon> now to install nvidia drivers
[23:59] <faran> hey....how to install skype in xubuntu
[23:59] <mcc> daftykins: i guess i don't know... it seems surprising to me that an older ubuntu might work better? :O
[23:59] <LordDragon> so i dont suppose there is a handy dandy apt-get install i can do for the latest nvidia driver?
[23:59] <daftykins> LordDragon: not latest no, what card is this?
[23:59] <LordDragon> nvidia gtx 970