| Unit193 | knome: Herro? | 00:04 |
|---|---|---|
| knome | yes? | 00:05 |
| Unit193 | :D | 00:05 |
| Unit193 | So see comments about translations? Do you have admin rights on there? Can you look at info? Does it not import if it's set to 'development'? | 00:05 |
| * Unit193 is starting to really dislike translations. :P | 00:06 | |
| knome | i'll check | 00:06 |
| * Unit193 has started getting the hang of transifex, though still doesn't get the autocommits, easier than LP! | 00:06 | |
| Unit193 | Yey! | 00:06 |
| knome | Translations are imported with every update from branch lp:xubuntu-docs. | 00:07 |
| Unit193 | Hmm. | 00:09 |
| Unit193 | Well whatever.. :/ | 00:10 |
| * Unit193 doesn't have to care. | 00:10 | |
| knome | well if that's the problem, i can request a one-time import | 00:10 |
| knome | there isn't anything that is not open on the import queue at least | 00:11 |
| knome | desktop-guide/po/desktop-guide.pot in Xubuntu Documentation vivid series | 00:11 |
| knome | Imported | 00:11 |
| knome | 00:11 | |
| knome | Uploaded by Pasi Lallinaho on 2015-02-15 01:50:22 EET | 00:11 |
| knome | are you sure it's not fixed now? | 00:11 |
| Unit193 | Yeah, saw the queue. | 00:11 |
| knome | in what sizes and shapes would you like me to saw it into? | 00:11 |
| Unit193 | Did a pull, nothing new. | 00:11 |
| knome | since when has this been lagging? | 00:13 |
| knome | off to bed. nighty and ttyl | 00:39 |
| Unit193 | G'night. | 00:39 |
| bluesabre | release done, https://launchpad.net/lightdm-gtk-greeter/2.0/2.0.0, now to package it up :) | 00:54 |
| bluesabre | so many updates for the greeter packaging | 03:33 |
| bluesabre | >.< | 03:33 |
| Unit193 | :D | 04:09 |
| bluesabre | wow, he has done a good job with the settings (gtk3 + settings manager integration!) http://i.imgur.com/TMYRS7X.png | 04:10 |
| Unit193 | Wow indeed. | 04:12 |
| elfy | Unit193: that's really just :| | 07:05 |
| elfy | and I thought the background behind try/install was fubar as well, then I see the wallpaper is changed and isn't blue or pink :p | 07:05 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: wowza, the gtk3 plug is nice! the 100% tab-width is a bit funny ;) | 07:11 |
| elfy | hi ochosi | 07:11 |
| ochosi | morning elfy | 07:11 |
| ochosi | what background where? | 07:11 |
| elfy | wallpaper in vivid | 07:11 |
| elfy | http://i.imgur.com/FhBwsI3.png | 07:12 |
| elfy | if you look carefully you'll see ibus in the panel too ... | 07:13 |
| elfy | Unit193: any idea what's causing it? | 07:14 |
| Unit193 | elfy: Might, tried a fix a few hours ago so we'll see with the next images. | 07:14 |
| elfy | okey doke | 07:15 |
| elfy | I'll see lunchtimeish then | 07:15 |
| elfy | thanks | 07:15 |
| ochosi | ah good, the "in development" wallpaper has made it :) | 07:17 |
| elfy | yea:) | 07:17 |
| ochosi | wait, indicator-keyboard? | 07:17 |
| ochosi | did you install that? | 07:17 |
| ochosi | and indicator-datetime | 07:17 |
| elfy | nope - that's what I'm talking to Unit193 about | 07:18 |
| elfy | http://paste.openstack.org/show/7HZrBRWkuUeNOVixOTdU/ | 07:18 |
| Unit193 | Wow, someone reads me. | 07:18 |
| elfy | of course :) | 07:18 |
| ochosi | k, i see | 07:18 |
| ochosi | that diff reminds me a bit of 14.04.2 | 07:19 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Oh was supposed to tell you, ll is up in staging, source package in /source/ on sigma. | 07:19 |
| Unit193 | So images pop out 12:00utc? | 07:24 |
| elfy | a bit before iirc - round about 11:00utc | 07:24 |
| Unit193 | Ah, 6am... | 07:29 |
| elfy | no - that was hours ago now :p | 07:29 |
| elfy | anyway - what did you do to hopefully fix? | 07:29 |
| Unit193 | Pushed a fix to the seed. | 07:29 |
| elfy | ok | 07:30 |
| elfy | I see | 07:30 |
| elfy | it's going to be one of those days is it ;) | 07:30 |
| Unit193 | Also, should have light-locker to pull from a PPA. | 07:32 |
| ochosi | well, if it's really lightdm that is at fault then i guess it's going to be an easy fix | 07:33 |
| Unit193 | What makes you think lightdm? | 07:33 |
| ochosi | Unit193: as you're not in release, i | 07:33 |
| ochosi | 'll repeat it here :) | 07:33 |
| ochosi | lightdm's debian/control file contains this line "unity-greeter | lightdm-greeter | lightdm-kde-greeter" | 07:34 |
| elfy | ochosi: he is in there | 07:34 |
| ochosi | while it should say "lightdm-gtk-greeter" | 07:34 |
| ochosi | oh, he is? | 07:34 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: That's not the problem. gtk provides lightdm-greeter. | 07:34 |
| ochosi | weird, why did my autocomplete fail then | 07:34 |
| elfy | yea - he's daleksec ... | 07:34 |
| ochosi | awwwh, man | 07:35 |
| ochosi | that's just annoying | 07:35 |
| elfy | at least when I'm goblin, I'm goblin everywhere :D | 07:35 |
| ochosi | Unit193: would be cool if you could step in and enlighten darkst and seb if you know more than us | 07:49 |
| Unit193 | Wasn't looking. I'm eating cookies. :( | 07:50 |
| Unit193 | And, don't know for sure, but we'll see. | 07:50 |
| ochosi | anyway, i think they're figuring it out on their own already | 07:50 |
| DalekSec | Seed issues, shouldn't happen but oh well. | 07:51 |
| Unit193 | Or, chances might be. | 07:51 |
| ochosi | talking to yourself..? :) | 07:51 |
| Unit193 | You, cupcake. | 07:52 |
| ochosi | hehe | 07:52 |
| * ochosi likes it when Unit193 or DalekSec call him cupcake | 07:52 | |
| ochosi | (or at least i prefer it to "sir") | 07:53 |
| Unit193 | hah, weeeird preferences there, man. | 07:53 |
| elfy | heh | 07:57 |
| elfy | you get used to that 'sir' business from there - sometimes it's 'dear' and sometimes it is both 'dear sir' | 07:58 |
| ochosi | one step at a time, next would be "sir cupcake" | 08:00 |
| Unit193 | Yes, babe. | 08:04 |
| elfy | Unit193: what are you using to show those diffs? | 08:42 |
| Unit193 | diff? | 08:43 |
| elfy | http://paste.openstack.org/show/7HZrBRWkuUeNOVixOTdU/ | 08:44 |
| elfy | oic - just diff | 08:45 |
| elfy | so nvm - because that's obviously not *just* diff if you ask me | 08:50 |
| Unit193 | elfy: Why not? | 09:50 |
| elfy | not pretty colours :( | 09:51 |
| elfy | lol | 09:51 |
| Unit193 | pastebinit -f diff | 09:51 |
| elfy | aah k - thanks | 09:52 |
| Unit193 | Sure. | 09:52 |
| elfy | was looking for something to use locally rather than pasting - hence my confusion :D | 09:53 |
| slickymasterWork | ochosi, unless you strongly disagree, I'm going to give my ok to https://code.launchpad.net/~unit193/xubuntu-docs/fixes/+merge/249768 | 10:21 |
| ochosi | slickymasterWork: if i understand this correctly, that means that translations that are only 70% complete will also be included? | 10:28 |
| knome | ochosi, ja | 10:28 |
| slickymasterWork | exactly, currently it will potential mean that we'll ship two - three idioms other then the two were already shipping | 10:29 |
| knome | 122 responses on our survey | 10:29 |
| knome | more than half still consider themselves power users | 10:30 |
| knome | 6 use the accessibility options in xubuntu | 10:30 |
| knome | which is interesting, because i don't know exactly what those would be | 10:30 |
| knome | 39% use xubuntu for software development, so i'm not sure if we still have a descriptive sample... | 10:30 |
| ochosi | slickymasterWork: i saw you discussed this with others already in the channel, i don't disagree with you (despite not having a good idea of the status quo of docs-translations), anyway i trust you on this | 10:31 |
| slickymasterWork | ok | 10:31 |
| knome | also, 28 people want to know more about contributing to xubuntu | 10:31 |
| ochosi | slickymasterWork: let's hope it's a good incentive for ppl to contribute to docs translations | 10:31 |
| knome | now that we've asked that, we might want to consider how do we contact them :) | 10:31 |
| slickymasterWork | didn't they left an email? | 10:32 |
| ochosi | hehe | 10:32 |
| knome | ochosi, at least it gives me more time to slack off until fi is dropped ;P | 10:32 |
| ochosi | yeah, secret recruiting routine ;) | 10:32 |
| knome | slickymasterWork, sure, but that's just half of the story | 10:32 |
| knome | who sends them email | 10:32 |
| knome | what do they say | 10:32 |
| slickymasterWork | just a generic text emphasizing what is the regular process to start to contribute, iei, areas and ways to do it | 10:34 |
| knome | well my idea is that since they came to the form, filled it, and specifically wanted to know more... it would be nice to be not a generic one :P | 10:34 |
| brainwash | bluesabre, greeter 2.0 has no transparency effects (panel and login window corners). it also loads the default background first and then fades to the user one, but that's maybe intentional | 10:35 |
| knome | but of course it needs to be a preset one, we don't know about their preferences | 10:35 |
| slickymasterWork | yeah | 10:36 |
| knome | but it would be nice if it was something else than something from the website | 10:36 |
| knome | or we can test them with some new stuff | 10:36 |
| slickymasterWork | new stuff? | 10:36 |
| knome | like /getinvolved/teams/ on the staging server | 10:36 |
| slickymasterWork | I see, that could be a good idea | 10:37 |
| knome | even if i say myself, that's a fantastic idea | 10:38 |
| knome | got to go now though | 10:38 |
| knome | bbl, hf :) | 10:38 |
| slickymasterWork | you too knome | 10:38 |
| knome | will try to.. | 10:39 |
| knome | -> | 10:39 |
| ochosi | brainwash: simple-scan is fine | 11:04 |
| ochosi | let's take this over here | 11:04 |
| ochosi | obviously it's x/ubuntu specific | 11:05 |
| brainwash | yeah | 11:06 |
| brainwash | I noticed that I have evince installed and not evince-gtk, not sure if that matters | 11:07 |
| brainwash | ok, it doesn't | 11:07 |
| bluesabre | brainwash: I think ochosi needs to patch greybird for the greeter 2.0 | 11:10 |
| bluesabre | and I think the initial bg transitiion is intentional... eases default (plymouth-like) background -> user background | 11:11 |
| ochosi | i do? | 11:11 |
| bluesabre | I remember andrew p. mentioning something about it way way way way way way back | 11:11 |
| ochosi | humm :) | 11:11 |
| ochosi | guess i'll have to either read the source again or try to launch gtk-inspector in the greeter | 11:12 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: if you add "allow-debugging=true" to the greeter config, you can use gtk-inspector | 11:12 |
| brainwash | bluesabre, the fade effect is nice, but not needed is some cases (when relogging, or when the plymouth boot screen is not working properly). maybe it could be made configurable | 11:14 |
| ochosi | oh noes, not more configurability | 11:14 |
| ochosi | just look at what unity-greeter is doing | 11:14 |
| brainwash | I'll disable it on my local machine then | 11:16 |
| brainwash | it's a small thing, but it somehow annoys me :) | 11:16 |
| ochosi | as long as we don't get many bugreports about stuff like this, let's not touch it | 11:16 |
| bluesabre | user-background=false or transition-type=none or transition-duration=0 | 11:17 |
| brainwash | heh, you can configure it already? | 11:17 |
| ochosi | well yes, but you can't configure *when* the transition should happen | 11:18 |
| ochosi | so different scenarios like boot vs. logout/lock are not accounted for (and shouldn't be as separate options, that just makes everything too confusing) | 11:18 |
| ochosi | anyway, off for lunch | 11:18 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: i added a workitem for myself to update greybird btw | 11:19 |
| elfy | hi bluesabre brainwash | 11:19 |
| brainwash | hey elfy | 11:20 |
| brainwash | ochosi, bluesabre: I did not take a look at the updated .conf file, so I missed the new options | 11:21 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: cool, thanks | 11:21 |
| bluesabre | hey elfy | 11:21 |
| brainwash | the xubuntu-default-settings greeter conf needs to be updated | 11:21 |
| bluesabre | yeah, will get to it shortly | 11:21 |
| bluesabre | (today/tomorrow) | 11:21 |
| brainwash | great :) | 11:21 |
| elfy | Unit193: new image - looks no different - still ibus etc | 11:22 |
| ochosi | humm, the unlock button also doesn't seem to have the "default button" look anymore | 11:22 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: if you get a list of issues together, I can probably patch the greeter for a quick 2.0.1 tonight | 11:24 |
| bluesabre | or create a single bug for "theming issues" | 11:25 |
| ochosi | yup, i'll take a look, maybe i'll also address it in greybird | 11:25 |
| ochosi | those things can usually be fixed two ways | 11:26 |
| ochosi | brainwash: wanna create a bugreport for evince and link it to v-bugs? | 11:27 |
| ochosi | gotta run, ttyl | 11:27 |
| elfy | bluesabre: you likely to set meeting before beta? | 11:28 |
| bluesabre | hm | 11:29 |
| bluesabre | does this time on Wednesday work for you, elfy? | 11:29 |
| elfy | that'll be this week in case you're not date sure :p | 11:29 |
| bluesabre | (this hour) | 11:30 |
| elfy | absolutely anytime this week - holiday all week :) | 11:30 |
| bluesabre | great | 11:30 |
| elfy | hopefully we'll even have a vivid image that's ours by then | 11:30 |
| bluesabre | Scheduled | 11:35 |
| bluesabre | elfy: where do I add it to the google calendar again? | 11:38 |
| elfy | ummm | 11:39 |
| elfy | google calendar | 11:40 |
| slickymasterWork | bluesabre, "The next meeting is scheduled for Wednesday 23rd of Jan 2015 11:00" | 11:40 |
| slickymasterWork | ?! | 11:40 |
| bluesabre | what? | 11:40 |
| slickymasterWork | 2016 ;) | 11:40 |
| elfy | looks right on wiki | 11:40 |
| slickymasterWork | you mail to the ML | 11:40 |
| bluesabre | dang it | 11:40 |
| bluesabre | bad ML | 11:40 |
| slickymasterWork | * your | 11:40 |
| slickymasterWork | lol | 11:41 |
| elfy | bluesabre: did calendar | 11:43 |
| bluesabre | elfy: thanks | 11:43 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: do you want to begin the motu hunt while I'm out today? | 12:34 |
| bluesabre | https://bugs.launchpad.net/lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings/+bug/1295405 | 12:34 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1295405 in Settings editor for LightDM GTK+ Greeter "[needs-packaging] Package and upload to vivid" [Wishlist,In progress] | 12:34 |
| bluesabre | See my last comment | 12:34 |
| knome | why two? | 12:37 |
| bluesabre | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages | 12:38 |
| knome | ok | 12:38 |
| bluesabre | "Two MOTUs must advocate the package." | 12:38 |
| knome | i've poked Mirv | 12:38 |
| knome | i really should make a list of people i "know" for my sue | 12:39 |
| knome | *use | 12:39 |
| bluesabre | :) | 12:39 |
| bluesabre | I wonder if Logan would be willing to sign off on it as well | 12:39 |
| bluesabre | :) | 12:39 |
| bluesabre | If I was quicker, could have asked micahg last night | 12:40 |
| bluesabre | but hadn't started the packaging yet :\ | 12:40 |
| knome | that's okay | 12:42 |
| knome | we'll find the motus | 12:42 |
| knome | what else people we might need than ~motu and ~ubuntu-core-dev? | 12:46 |
| bluesabre | that should be it... once its uploaded we can move it into the seed and packageset | 12:47 |
| knome | i mean generally, not in this case :) | 12:47 |
| bluesabre | knome: when is the translations deadline? | 12:47 |
| bluesabre | because currently it only has ru | 12:47 |
| * knome opens the release schedule for bluesabre | 12:48 | |
| bluesabre | :P | 12:48 |
| knome | march 19 | 12:48 |
| knome | is the doc string freeze | 12:48 |
| * bluesabre runs to the shower to get ready for work | 12:48 | |
| bluesabre | ok | 12:48 |
| knome | april 9 is the deadline for *translations* | 12:48 |
| knome | so still good time | 12:48 |
| knome | uifreeze is march 12, subject to some docs stuff | 12:48 |
| knome | like the installer slideshow | 12:49 |
| slickymasterWork | less than a month :P | 12:51 |
| knome | the ui freeze, sure | 12:51 |
| knome | but generally we are not in a huge rush yet | 12:51 |
| slickymasterWork | :) | 12:51 |
| andrew_the_p | hi all | 13:05 |
| knome | hello | 13:05 |
| andrew_the_p | bluesabre: the simpest (at the current moment) way to fix greybird - adding something like "#screen.lightdm-gtk-greeter {background: transparent;}" somewhere in lightdm-gtk-greeter.css | 13:08 |
| bluesabre | andrew_the_p: thanks! | 13:08 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: ^ | 13:08 |
| knome | pleia2, ping me when you're around. we need to talk about the policies for incoming messages @xubuntu-contacts | 13:09 |
| bluesabre | andrew_the_p: working on getting settings into ubuntu this week :) https://bugs.launchpad.net/lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings/+bug/1295405 | 13:09 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1295405 in Settings editor for LightDM GTK+ Greeter "[needs-packaging] Package and upload to vivid" [Wishlist,In progress] | 13:09 |
| bluesabre | you've done a fantastic job with those, and the xfce integration is a nice bit of flair ;) | 13:09 |
| bluesabre | gotta run to work now, bbl | 13:10 |
| knome | i like the progress that stuff has been getting lately, both in the xubuntu "in-house" developments, xfce stuff, their ingtegration and much more | 13:10 |
| knome | ++ for bluesabre and others who have worked on those :) | 13:10 |
| elfy | I can ++ that too :) | 13:11 |
| knome | i'll top that off with chocolate cookies for everybody | 13:11 |
| knome | IRL too if you happen to be around helsinki :) | 13:11 |
| elfy | :) | 13:12 |
| andrew_the_p | thx, and about crossfade in greeter: its behavior will be slightly changed in future versions. Some things must be done before it. | 13:19 |
| brainwash | ochosi, bug 1422354 | 13:20 |
| ubottu | bug 1422354 in evince (Ubuntu) "Show traditional titlebar when maximized with no GtkHeaderBar present" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1422354 | 13:20 |
| elfy | we don't use that - evince-gtk works fine here | 13:25 |
| brainwash | elfy, it does? maximize the window | 13:27 |
| elfy | http://i.imgur.com/MLI323P.png | 13:49 |
| flexiondotorg_ | elfy, Atril is an option 😉 | 13:54 |
| elfy | wut? | 13:54 |
| brainwash | well, nice titlebar | 13:56 |
| elfy | oic | 13:59 |
| elfy | evince works :) | 13:59 |
| elfy | titlebar is titlebar | 13:59 |
| brainwash | I did test evince-gtk and it was missing too on my system | 14:01 |
| elfy | mmm | 14:01 |
| brainwash | and ochosi can confirm it | 14:01 |
| brainwash | and the source code says that it should be hidden when maximized | 14:01 |
| ochosi | elfy: what version of xfwm4 is that? | 14:02 |
| elfy | ok - can see the fail in the failing daily | 14:02 |
| elfy | 4.11.3-0ubuntu1 | 14:03 |
| ochosi | yeah 4.11.3 is the version that exposes the problem | 14:03 |
| elfy | so why do I have a working version | 14:06 |
| elfy | mind you I'm not surprised - I still appear to have dodgy scrollbars in things even after purging that PPA | 14:08 |
| ochosi | right, slightly messed up install maybe ;) | 14:10 |
| ochosi | i wouldn't give it too much thought, the problem in evince is well confirmed and explained | 14:10 |
| ochosi | and there's a patch, so soon you won't be the only one with a working version | 14:10 |
| elfy | entirely possible messed up | 14:10 |
| brainwash | only affects Xfce though, just tested with lubuntu, mate and co | 14:10 |
| ochosi | brainwash: i suggest you do a MR directly with that patch and i'll follow up with seb128 on that | 14:35 |
| knome | bbl | 15:25 |
| elfy | ochosi: so - who should we ping about the fubar vivid images ? | 15:42 |
| elfy | any idea? | 15:42 |
| ochosi | elfy: fubar images? | 15:43 |
| ochosi | what again now? | 15:43 |
| ochosi | ah... you mean because of the messed up depends pulling in unity? | 15:44 |
| elfy | vivid with unity settings and greeter and ibus | 15:44 |
| elfy | yea | 15:44 |
| ochosi | hmm good question | 15:46 |
| ochosi | i'm not really sure to be honest | 15:46 |
| ochosi | pinged Laney again, since he seemed willing to help with 14.04.2 | 15:49 |
| ochosi | we'll see what comes of it | 15:49 |
| elfy | yep saw that - thanks | 15:49 |
| ochosi | well thanks for the reminder, we really need to resolve this asap | 15:51 |
| elfy | yea, I'll try and spend a bit of time getting my head around it | 15:52 |
| elfy | beta arrives next monday/tuesday | 15:52 |
| ochosi | elfy: so Laney kinda suggested we should ping infinity | 16:17 |
| ochosi | so let's do that then | 16:17 |
| elfy | I did - before you were talking to darkxst | 16:18 |
| ochosi | yeah, but that was already a few days ago | 16:20 |
| elfy | no - it was this morning at 07:06UTC :) | 16:21 |
| ochosi | oh :) | 16:21 |
| ochosi | in that case i guess we can give it some time | 16:21 |
| elfy | I think he is in the far east or something atm - so timezones even worse :) | 16:23 |
| PaulW2U | elfy: hi, sorry, only just seen your "hi" in ubuntu+1 :) | 16:47 |
| elfy | :) | 16:48 |
| PaulW2U | Don't like the new wallpaper. Is that for keeps? I prefer 14.10's. | 16:48 |
| elfy | I'm not really sure what goes on over in the arty department ;) | 16:50 |
| ochosi | well this is the "in development" wallpaper that we'll be using each release from now on until there is a final wallpaper | 16:51 |
| ochosi | that is to visually indicate "you are using a development version, if you break your thumb because you have to type so much to fix all bugs/problems, we're not at fault" | 16:51 |
| elfy | oh - news to me - but fairly logical :) | 16:52 |
| PaulW2U | so Xubuntu will remain blue (-ish) ? | 16:52 |
| ochosi | very likely | 16:52 |
| PaulW2U | \o/ | 16:52 |
| ochosi | either way, changing the wallpaper/theme really isn't a big deal... | 16:53 |
| flexiondotorg_ | bluesabre, ochosi, elfy, ali1234 - Just you're aware- http://paste.mate-desktop.org/podvawj9x | 16:56 |
| ochosi | luckily most of our stuff uses xfconf | 16:57 |
| ochosi | but thanks for the heads up, i read it in #u-devel too btw ;) | 16:57 |
| flexiondotorg_ | ochosi, Just letting you guys know. I suspect there is other "old" GNOME apps that are affected. Not sure what you ship in Xubuntu but if you encounter weirdness, you know what it is. | 17:02 |
| ochosi | indeed | 17:02 |
| bluesabre | hey all | 17:27 |
| elfy | hi bluesabre :) | 17:27 |
| ranu | hi :) | 17:29 |
| elfy | confusing myself trying to work out why all these messed up depends we've got | 17:30 |
| bluesabre | sounds like an exciting task | 17:36 |
| elfy | even more so when it's all double dutch to me ... | 17:40 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: woot, what are you doing around here at this hour?? | 17:51 |
| bluesabre | snow | 17:51 |
| bluesabre | so much snow | 17:51 |
| ochosi | also, the greeter-settings build seems to have failed (says Mirv), which is why i haven't pursued that any further | 17:51 |
| ochosi | sweet | 17:51 |
| bluesabre | yup | 17:51 |
| bluesabre | fixing now | 17:51 |
| ochosi | btw, do you know of any apps that could be affected by the gsettings problem that was mentioned by flexiondotorg_? | 17:57 |
| ochosi | (cause i personally don't) | 17:57 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: light-locker, for one | 18:02 |
| bluesabre | but it does not seem to be affected | 18:02 |
| bluesabre | mugshot and catfish also use gsettings | 18:02 |
| bluesabre | but don't seem to be affected | 18:02 |
| elfy | giving up - really confused now ... | 18:04 |
| brainwash_ | unity 1 - elfy 0 | 18:05 |
| elfy | well I'd go further than just unity :p | 18:05 |
| brainwash_ | :D | 18:05 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: yeah, already checked light-locker | 18:05 |
| elfy | packages 1 - elfy 0 :D | 18:05 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: i think this is only a problem for oldish apps, of which we don't ship many | 18:06 |
| elfy | brainwash_: I ended up at indicator-keyboard somehow | 18:06 |
| brainwash_ | elfy, it's a nightmare :) | 18:19 |
| brainwash_ | bug 1292290 gets bumped regularly with useless comments or status updates, but there is no one to verify the SRU :/ | 18:23 |
| ubottu | bug 1292290 in Xfwm4 "[SRU] Window manager keybindings don't work after reboot" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1292290 | 18:23 |
| elfy | yep and eventually someone will ask why it's not been fixed yet | 18:25 |
| ochosi | brainwash_: have you actively tried to find people to verify it outside of this channel? | 18:37 |
| brainwash_ | I will have to try that | 18:39 |
| pleia2 | knome: I won't be around much until Sunday or so | 19:12 |
| elfy | hi pleia2 - have fun :) | 19:12 |
| pleia2 | elfy: hey :) thanks | 19:14 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: care to test https://launchpad.net/~bluesabre/+archive/ubuntu/lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings ? | 19:19 |
| bluesabre | just looking for a second confirmation before requesting motu and archive admin eyes | 19:20 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: will do in about 30mins, just have to finish something real quick | 19:23 |
| bluesabre | k | 19:24 |
| bluesabre | brainwash_: I now have exo access, will handle this patch today https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11504 | 19:34 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 11504 in Helpers "Update mimeapps.list location (glib >= 2.41)" [Major,Assigned] | 19:34 |
| bluesabre | brainwash_: and done | 19:48 |
| brainwash_ | bluesabre, great. I'll try to re-test it later | 19:50 |
| brainwash_ | to make sure that everything works | 19:50 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: be sure to test | 19:50 |
| bluesabre | (greeter-settings) | 19:51 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: getting ready to test now... | 20:21 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: cool, I've started pinging :) | 20:21 |
| ochosi | ok :) | 20:21 |
| bluesabre | it works for me, at least | 20:21 |
| ochosi | that's a good start :) | 20:22 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: wowza and ouch | 20:24 |
| bluesabre | oh god | 20:24 |
| ochosi | don't use that with a theme in your home folder :D | 20:24 |
| ochosi | otherwise you'll get the root fallback theme | 20:24 |
| bluesabre | silly ochosi | 20:24 |
| ochosi | hehe | 20:24 |
| bluesabre | use greybird or numix :P | 20:24 |
| bluesabre | (we'll fix that in 1.1.1 | 20:25 |
| bluesabre | ) | 20:25 |
| ochosi | not knowing what it is, that button looks scary without a tooltip: http://i.imgur.com/drZTLyx.png | 20:25 |
| ochosi | (will it remove the item..?) | 20:25 |
| ochosi | i know now what it is, because i clicked | 20:26 |
| ochosi | but i think a tooltip might be helpful | 20:26 |
| ochosi | ouch | 20:28 |
| ochosi | now i updated some settings, locked the session and got a white screen that was constantly repainted | 20:28 |
| ochosi | (i.e. flickering mouse cursor) | 20:28 |
| ochosi | i guess restarting shouldn't be needed, should it? | 20:28 |
| bluesabre | shouldn't be | 20:28 |
| bluesabre | sounds like you're exposing some nice greeter bugs | 20:28 |
| bluesabre | but overall, the settings works, right? | 20:29 |
| ochosi | well i can't say | 20:30 |
| ochosi | because the whitescreen never recovered | 20:30 |
| ochosi | lemme quickly save my work and then i'll give it another try | 20:30 |
| sidi | wrapping up what's being told right now in #xfce-dev, there won't be a RC for Xfce 4.12 | 20:31 |
| sidi | you should test the latest 4.11 components instead, if willing to do some last minute testing | 20:31 |
| sidi | Xfwm just had a release, settings is following | 20:31 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: i like it when sidi gives us a heads up! (: | 20:31 |
| bluesabre | I hear an echo | 20:31 |
| sidi | rofl. | 20:32 |
| sidi | some people here are not on #xfce-dev ;P | 20:32 |
| sidi | and those people are the people doing the testing for Xub :p | 20:32 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: ok, i'll quickly reboot and then test again | 20:32 |
| bluesabre | fair enough :) | 20:32 |
| bluesabre | ochosi, a simple switch between two system-wide themes would have been sufficient for me :P | 20:33 |
| bluesabre | (for now, approaching FF as we are) | 20:33 |
| ochosi | ok, now it works | 20:36 |
| ochosi | the reboot has fixed everything | 20:36 |
| ochosi | could be that i just updated greeter, lightdm and the settings app without rebooting | 20:36 |
| ochosi | maybe that wasnt such a swell idea... | 20:36 |
| bluesabre | living dangerously | 20:36 |
| bluesabre | want to comment on the bug that you tested the package and it works for you? | 20:37 |
| ochosi | already on it | 20:37 |
| bluesabre | I subbed ubuntu-sponsors after my last comment to set this up to notify >:) | 20:37 |
| ochosi | greeter development was always dangerous ;) | 20:37 |
| elfy | sidi: thanks for showing some of the kindness of telling us things that others in here just assume we know :p | 20:44 |
| elfy | s/showing some of us | 20:45 |
| ochosi | well, we'd have told you on time though ;) | 20:45 |
| elfy | :) | 20:46 |
| ochosi | for now it seemed a bit like "no news" | 20:46 |
| elfy | ha | 20:46 |
| sidi | elfy, you're welcome :p | 20:46 |
| ochosi | we've all been guinea-pigs for 4.11 all along, so i have no idea what else we could do to test it more | 20:46 |
| sidi | ochosi, that's quite true | 20:47 |
| sidi | but | 20:47 |
| sidi | it'd be good to have people do a clean install | 20:47 |
| sidi | just to check the xfconf keys we ship by default | 20:47 |
| ochosi | right, but the thing is that the xubuntu team is already doing quite a lot of testing... | 20:47 |
| ochosi | this sort of clean install you're referring to (vanilla xfce) is something you should contact the arch users about ;) | 20:48 |
| slickymaster | Unit193, https://code.launchpad.net/~unit193/xubuntu-docs/fixes/+merge/249768 approved and merged | 20:48 |
| ochosi | folks, all the help links seem to be broken in vivid's settings manager, can you confirm that? | 21:01 |
| slickymaster | I'll just be able to tomorrow ochosi :P | 21:02 |
| elfy | works here - but as we worked out ... bit broken - booting vm | 21:02 |
| * slickymaster wanders to see how's his fish going | 21:04 | |
| elfy | round and round looking out the glass | 21:04 |
| elfy | or frying ... | 21:04 |
| ochosi | :) | 21:04 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: broken in what way? | 21:05 |
| elfy | ochosi: vm - tried 4 or 5 helps - all work | 21:05 |
| bluesabre | there is an issue with firefox 35+ in vivid that links don't open | 21:05 |
| elfy | really? 35 worked when I had it | 21:05 |
| bluesabre | maybe just 36 then | 21:06 |
| elfy | 36 failed badly - had to go back, but there was only 34 available by then :| | 21:06 |
| bluesabre | yup | 21:06 |
| bluesabre | :'( | 21:06 |
| elfy | yea - I could ack that for sure :) | 21:06 |
| elfy | yea ... though I actually only noticed from inside (he)xchat | 21:06 |
| ochosi | oh | 21:07 |
| ochosi | hm, so maybe it's ff then | 21:07 |
| bluesabre | if ff opens at your home screen, then most likely | 21:08 |
| elfy | if that's what you're seeing I would think so | 21:08 |
| elfy | bluesabre: I got - click link - ff opens new instance at 'home' iirc | 21:08 |
| bluesabre | yup | 21:08 |
| ochosi | yeah, got that too | 21:08 |
| elfy | ochosi: panic ye not :) | 21:09 |
| ochosi | ok ok | 21:10 |
| * ochosi calms himself down | 21:10 | |
| knome | pleia2, that's fine | 21:33 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: indeed, help works fine with chromium | 21:36 |
| * ochosi shakes his fist at firefox | 21:36 | |
| knome | silly ochosi, being mad at software :) | 21:37 |
| bluesabre | firefox protects your privacy by not letting you access the internet while drunk | 21:37 |
| bluesabre | or sober | 21:37 |
| knome | well it should if you're a jerk like ochosi... | 21:38 |
| * knome hides | 21:38 | |
| elfy | hello knome | 21:38 |
| knome | elfy, i can't talk, i'm hiding | 21:38 |
| knome | oops | 21:38 |
| knome | :P | 21:38 |
| elfy | lol | 21:38 |
| elfy | balloons is as good | 21:39 |
| knome | good in what? | 21:39 |
| elfy | hiding | 21:39 |
| knome | :) | 21:39 |
| ochosi | jjfrv8: i think we have a "job opening" for you... :) | 22:20 |
| elfy | slickymaster: remember https://code.launchpad.net/~elfy/ubuntu-manual-tests/1404275/+merge/245201 | 22:20 |
| elfy | bug is not invalid now :) | 22:21 |
| elfy | \o/ | 22:22 |
| elfy | can I go now ochosi :p | 22:22 |
| ochosi | which bug is not invalid now? | 22:22 |
| elfy | testcase one - still no need to panic :) | 22:22 |
| elfy | big 1404275 | 22:22 |
| elfy | sigh | 22:23 |
| elfy | bug 1404275 | 22:23 |
| ubottu | bug 1404275 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "Imgur hosting option missing" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1404275 | 22:23 |
| knome | big big | 22:23 |
| elfy | enormous | 22:24 |
| elfy | fix the little bugs and the big big's are so big - they'll get left | 22:24 |
| ochosi | :) | 22:24 |
| elfy | ochosi: I'm getting a bit itchy re 14.04.2 - if we only get the chance to do some quick smoketests to prove install - what's your opinion on that? | 22:25 |
| ochosi | how many days are left now? | 22:26 |
| elfy | not including the 2 hours left today - 3 | 22:26 |
| ochosi | k | 22:29 |
| ochosi | i'd say we continue to ping infinity | 22:29 |
| ObrienDave | which test case do you need help with the most? | 22:30 |
| slickymaster | elfy: I'll review it tomorrow | 22:30 |
| elfy | ochosi: mmm - let's not all do that - given that I'm sure wxl will be doing it as well :) | 22:34 |
| elfy | slickymaster: okey doke - thanks | 22:34 |
| elfy | ochosi: if you don't notice -release often - check now and you'll see what I meant :) | 23:29 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Can you refresh and upload xubuntu-meta? | 23:31 |
| Unit193 | slickymaster: Thanks for the comments! | 23:32 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: it's time? | 23:32 |
| Unit193 | I'd say so. | 23:32 |
| elfy | Unit193: did you catch the image still being fubar? | 23:33 |
| Unit193 | elfy: Yeah, hoping this might help. | 23:33 |
| ochosi | elfy: i actually read it, mr release manager ;) | 23:34 |
| Unit193 | Otherwise, will have to try and revert some changes. | 23:34 |
| elfy | ok Unit193 - as soon as I know the new one's there I'll sync it and check it here | 23:34 |
| elfy | ochosi: ha - don't know if you've got things set to ping you there or not :) | 23:35 |
| elfy | I shall now wander off until Friday and see how the other 2 in release team did :D | 23:35 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Of course take a look at the changelog and make sure nothing too odd. | 23:35 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: looks good for now | 23:36 |
| bluesabre | :) | 23:36 |
| elfy | Unit193: at some point if you could point me at 'what' and 'where' you look to see what this sort of issue could be - I'd love to know | 23:36 |
| elfy | especially if you're going to be doing more 'other' stuff here | 23:37 |
| elfy | just not today ;) | 23:37 |
| slickymaster | at you service Unit193 ;) | 23:38 |
| elfy | which might be completely a non-starter, but if I can lessen *our* load somehow - always good | 23:38 |
| elfy | ochosi: so I've never brought this up as a bug nor reported, because just assumed - apps, run some qt thing - clementine for example | 23:42 |
| knome | bluesabre, want me to ping Mirv again tomorrow? | 23:42 |
| elfy | change them - it changes, change them - it doesn't - fails to see theme change second time - needs reboot | 23:42 |
| ochosi | elfy: but generally it applies the theme the first time? | 23:43 |
| ochosi | needs reboot or restart of the app/s? | 23:43 |
| elfy | yep - clementine has numix - even though changed back to greybird | 23:43 |
| ochosi | right | 23:43 |
| elfy | nope - only restart | 23:43 |
| ochosi | i guess there's not much we can do about that... | 23:43 |
| ochosi | that used to be a problem wth gtk3 as well | 23:44 |
| ochosi | but they fixed it | 23:44 |
| elfy | ok - this is why I've not bothered mentioning it :) | 23:44 |
| ochosi | i'd say it's very low priority | 23:44 |
| elfy | assumed QT | 23:44 |
| ochosi | yeah | 23:44 |
| elfy | yea yea | 23:44 |
| ochosi | qt or the gtk-qt interaction | 23:44 |
| bluesabre | knome: sure, and I'll reach out to a few others in the morning | 23:45 |
| bluesabre | thanks | 23:45 |
| elfy | the trolltech thing we did a short while ago at least meant I didn't need to do any more than install tbh | 23:45 |
| knome | bluesabre, oki, i'll do that when i woke up or sth :D | 23:45 |
| bluesabre | great | 23:45 |
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