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natuziGuys, who has Handbrake here?14:32
LyzeHello :) Whenever I idle for some minutes the screen turns black (which is normal). When i reactivate the screen i can login again but then when i click login the screen turns black and after about 30 sec. i see again the login mask16:18
Lyze14.04 64bit16:18
Lyze_http://youtu.be/Oqn3Rr5oxvk this is a video to the error16:23
fran_Hello , I recently install xubuntu on my pc, but when I open firefox, and navigate the system goes slow , like when I watch videos on youtube , it gets slow, and ends " stopping " without responding to any command, only restarting .. that I can do? It is the first time I use an operating system other than xp , and I never want to xp ... sorry my bad Inglés is use the translate16:26
tyrogI was glad to know that a new Xfce release is close. Will we be able to get it in Xubuntu 14.04 LTS?17:26
PrCZeKPlease, can anyone help me with this ? http://youtu.be/rr7r8GHOmlc?t=1m4s When i use FN+F3 for down volume and after this use any random combination then it will freeze my keyboard and i cant type17:48
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XubuntuUserAfter updated xfce-desktop, Xfce forgets desktop icons positions18:21
XubuntuUserhow can i fix tahat?18:21
lurohanyone else noticing desktop icons getting reordered between reboots?18:24
luroh(it started a week or two ago)18:24
XubuntuUseri'm using xubuntu 14.0418:24
brainwash_bug 133549218:24
ubottubug 1335492 in xfdesktop "[4.11.8] Desktop icons rearrange on each login" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/133549218:24
lurohgreat, thanks brainwash_!18:24
XubuntuUseri hate this bug!!!!18:25
brainwash_there is a potential patch which will fix it, an updated package will land in 14.04 "soon"18:25
luroheven better :)18:26
XubuntuUservery annoying18:26
brainwash_you can install the previous package and pin it, so it won't get updated automatically18:28
brainwash_this can be easily done with the synaptic package manager18:28
XubuntuUseri know18:30
XubuntuUseri will try18:30
PrCZeKOk guys :D now Can u help me too ? Please, can anyone help me with this ? http://youtu.be/rr7r8GHOmlc?t=1m4s When i use FN+F3 for down volume and after this use any random combination then it will freeze my keyboard and i cant type18:30
brainwash_sidi, any idea ^18:33
sidiinteresting18:34
sidithat could be X11 deciding that the volume notification is a menu? or some other app having a menu opening, but without rendering on top?18:35
sidii'd go for this first18:35
sidithat's the only case when X will block all keyboard input18:36
sidithe second option could be some severe bug in libkeybinder, making it decide all of a sudden that all key hits are VolumeUp/Down ?18:36
brainwash_so, kill xfce4-volumed and test again?18:37
sididoes the volume notification repeat when you type the "F" PrCZeK ?18:37
sidiand, does this happen systematically?18:37
sidibrainwash_, yeah. and also, open up a clean session with NO apps opened or autostarted, run xfce4volumed and a terminal and test again18:37
sidibut but but18:37
sidilibkeybinder is unsupported18:37
sidixvd needs to be ported to Xfce's keyboard infrastructure18:38
sidiquite urgently actually18:38
sidiand if it's a X11 bug, good luck debugging it18:38
sidi(in that case the issue would be notify-osd/xfce4-notifyd/something-else-related, but probably not xvd)18:38
PrCZeKsidi it block only alfanumeric i can use F1-F12 function key18:38
XubuntuUseri cant install previous version of xffdesktop using synaptic18:39
brainwash_XubuntuUser, force version?18:40
PrCZeKsidi:  i can Up, down volume sometimes its freeze on up sometimes on down. its random, after i click sometimes the keys again it will unblock. i will test it and said after a few minutes18:41
sidiPrCZeK, i'm sorry but i actually dont know why it happens :/18:41
brainwash_XubuntuUser, you will have to downgrade xfdesktop4 and xfdesktop4-data18:41
sidii suspect a libkeybinder bug18:41
sidisadly i cant debug this18:41
PrCZeKokej no problem18:41
sidiand there is nowhere to submit patches to anyway18:41
sidithe project is abandoned18:41
sidimaybe the people in #xorg know how to debug this kind of bugs18:42
XubuntuUserhttp://www.howtogeek.com/117929/how-to-downgrade-packages-on-ubuntu/18:42
PrCZeKok, i will try, or can I change xfce-volume to anything else ?18:43
XubuntuUseri downgraded xfdesktop and xfdesktop-data ant i resolved my problem18:48
XubuntuUserthanks18:48
sidiPrCZeK, best is to uninstall it in your case18:52
sidiPrCZeK, you can create manual commands in the keyboard config, using "aplay", to replace it18:53
sidiat least if you use ALSA18:53
sidiif you use PulseAudio, no idea18:53
PrCZeKsidi: what Can you remember me to uninstall18:58
PrCZeKI used PulseAudio, now i killed it, start Alsa and xfce-volumed and its same18:58
sidiyeah19:05
sidijust dont use xfce4-volumed19:05
sidiunfortunately i know i wont be able to fix this bug19:05
sidiat some point it will be rewritten, and then the bug should be gone19:05
PrCZeKsidi: but probably it disable my fn keys for volume19:09
sidiPrCZeK, it will. I suggest you create manual keyboard shortcuts using something like "aplay". Unfortunately I cannot fix the issue, so you have to choose which problem you prefer to live with :-(19:13
PrCZeKAh i forget, so i create manual shortcuts thanks :)19:13
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PrCZeKsidi: i tried install KDE and the same bug i think it will be HW problem :/ but on Win it works well. So maybe something in kernel i will try xubuntu 12 cause it works well i think :) thanks for help19:29
sidiPrCZeK, oh then you should definitely talk to the people in #xorg19:29
sidior write a bug report against the X11 server / Mir server19:30
sidinot sure what Ubuntu is using any more19:30
PrCZeKi will try thanks i will join the channel19:30
sidithey will be able to help you find the issue, and hopefully even fix it19:30
sidigood luck PrCZeK !19:30
PrCZeKthanks :) and thanks for usefull information19:30
DaveESAfter I install 14.04.1 and I try to shell to a terminal prompt using crtl-alt-F2 the screen is blank, if I load the liveCD ctrl-alt f keys work I've tried to find something on line but have found nothing20:52
PrCZeKsidi: hi, in #xorg said me try livecd, lol again bugged, but I reset BIOS, and unlock FN key, now when i want to change volume, i only pres F3 without FN and it works fine21:23
PrCZeKbut i can't exit windows with alt+f4 but i think i will survive it :D21:24
holsteinyou can remap what you need, PrCZeK21:27
PrCZeKholstein: yes i know thanks21:27
bren_compMinor question about the panel: Some of the icons on the window buttons are the defaults as opposed to the icon set I have. Any reason for it?23:00
elfyperhaps there is no specific one in the icon set23:02
elfyno way of telling without knowing what icons23:03
bren_compAlright. I'm using Numix, which has all icons set in 48x48. http://i.imgur.com/paAeJYb.png You can see in the Whisker Menu that XChat has it's own icon, but on the panel it reverts to the default.23:11
ochosibren_comp: known issue, tell the developers to fix the app and to respect the icon-theme when setting the appicon instead of hardcoding it23:15
ochosihas nothing to do with xfce unfortunately, so there's nothing we can fix23:15
bren_compAh alright. I appreciate the response, I'll definitely file an issue.23:16
elfythanks ochosi :)23:17
ochosibren_comp: good, the more people complain about this, the more likely it is that app developers one day fix that...23:17
ochosielfy: np23:17
elfybren_comp: you might find it better to try hexchat - as that's more likely to have someone looking - prior to removing xchat, we were looking at changing over23:22
elfyjust fyi ofc23:22

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