[14:32] <natuzi> Guys, who has Handbrake here?
[16:18] <Lyze> Hello :) Whenever I idle for some minutes the screen turns black (which is normal). When i reactivate the screen i can login again but then when i click login the screen turns black and after about 30 sec. i see again the login mask
[16:18] <Lyze> 14.04 64bit
[16:23] <Lyze_> http://youtu.be/Oqn3Rr5oxvk this is a video to the error
[16:26] <fran_> Hello , I recently install xubuntu on my pc, but when I open firefox, and navigate the system goes slow , like when I watch videos on youtube , it gets slow, and ends " stopping " without responding to any command, only restarting .. that I can do? It is the first time I use an operating system other than xp , and I never want to xp ... sorry my bad Inglés is use the translate
[17:26] <tyrog> I was glad to know that a new Xfce release is close. Will we be able to get it in Xubuntu 14.04 LTS?
[17:48] <PrCZeK> Please, can anyone help me with this ? http://youtu.be/rr7r8GHOmlc?t=1m4s When i use FN+F3 for down volume and after this use any random combination then it will freeze my keyboard and i cant type
[18:21] <XubuntuUser> After updated xfce-desktop, Xfce forgets desktop icons positions
[18:21] <XubuntuUser> how can i fix tahat?
[18:24] <luroh> anyone else noticing desktop icons getting reordered between reboots?
[18:24] <luroh> (it started a week or two ago)
[18:24] <XubuntuUser> i'm using xubuntu 14.04
[18:24] <brainwash_> bug 1335492
[18:24] <luroh> great, thanks brainwash_!
[18:25] <XubuntuUser> i hate this bug!!!!
[18:25] <brainwash_> there is a potential patch which will fix it, an updated package will land in 14.04 "soon"
[18:26] <luroh> even better :)
[18:26] <XubuntuUser> very annoying
[18:28] <brainwash_> you can install the previous package and pin it, so it won't get updated automatically
[18:28] <brainwash_> this can be easily done with the synaptic package manager
[18:30] <XubuntuUser> i know
[18:30] <XubuntuUser> i will try
[18:30] <PrCZeK> Ok guys :D now Can u help me too ? Please, can anyone help me with this ? http://youtu.be/rr7r8GHOmlc?t=1m4s When i use FN+F3 for down volume and after this use any random combination then it will freeze my keyboard and i cant type
[18:33] <brainwash_> sidi, any idea ^
[18:34] <sidi> interesting
[18:35] <sidi> that could be X11 deciding that the volume notification is a menu? or some other app having a menu opening, but without rendering on top?
[18:35] <sidi> i'd go for this first
[18:36] <sidi> that's the only case when X will block all keyboard input
[18:36] <sidi> the second option could be some severe bug in libkeybinder, making it decide all of a sudden that all key hits are VolumeUp/Down ?
[18:37] <brainwash_> so, kill xfce4-volumed and test again?
[18:37] <sidi> does the volume notification repeat when you type the "F" PrCZeK ?
[18:37] <sidi> and, does this happen systematically?
[18:37] <sidi> brainwash_, yeah. and also, open up a clean session with NO apps opened or autostarted, run xfce4volumed and a terminal and test again
[18:37] <sidi> but but but
[18:37] <sidi> libkeybinder is unsupported
[18:38] <sidi> xvd needs to be ported to Xfce's keyboard infrastructure
[18:38] <sidi> quite urgently actually
[18:38] <sidi> and if it's a X11 bug, good luck debugging it
[18:38] <sidi> (in that case the issue would be notify-osd/xfce4-notifyd/something-else-related, but probably not xvd)
[18:38] <PrCZeK> sidi it block only alfanumeric i can use F1-F12 function key
[18:39] <XubuntuUser> i cant install previous version of xffdesktop using synaptic
[18:40] <brainwash_> XubuntuUser, force version?
[18:41] <PrCZeK> sidi:  i can Up, down volume sometimes its freeze on up sometimes on down. its random, after i click sometimes the keys again it will unblock. i will test it and said after a few minutes
[18:41] <sidi> PrCZeK, i'm sorry but i actually dont know why it happens :/
[18:41] <brainwash_> XubuntuUser, you will have to downgrade xfdesktop4 and xfdesktop4-data
[18:41] <sidi> i suspect a libkeybinder bug
[18:41] <sidi> sadly i cant debug this
[18:41] <PrCZeK> okej no problem
[18:41] <sidi> and there is nowhere to submit patches to anyway
[18:41] <sidi> the project is abandoned
[18:42] <sidi> maybe the people in #xorg know how to debug this kind of bugs
[18:42] <XubuntuUser> http://www.howtogeek.com/117929/how-to-downgrade-packages-on-ubuntu/
[18:43] <PrCZeK> ok, i will try, or can I change xfce-volume to anything else ?
[18:48] <XubuntuUser> i downgraded xfdesktop and xfdesktop-data ant i resolved my problem
[18:48] <XubuntuUser> thanks
[18:52] <sidi> PrCZeK, best is to uninstall it in your case
[18:53] <sidi> PrCZeK, you can create manual commands in the keyboard config, using "aplay", to replace it
[18:53] <sidi> at least if you use ALSA
[18:53] <sidi> if you use PulseAudio, no idea
[18:58] <PrCZeK> sidi: what Can you remember me to uninstall
[18:58] <PrCZeK> I used PulseAudio, now i killed it, start Alsa and xfce-volumed and its same
[19:05] <sidi> yeah
[19:05] <sidi> just dont use xfce4-volumed
[19:05] <sidi> unfortunately i know i wont be able to fix this bug
[19:05] <sidi> at some point it will be rewritten, and then the bug should be gone
[19:09] <PrCZeK> sidi: but probably it disable my fn keys for volume
[19:13] <sidi> PrCZeK, it will. I suggest you create manual keyboard shortcuts using something like "aplay". Unfortunately I cannot fix the issue, so you have to choose which problem you prefer to live with :-(
[19:13] <PrCZeK> Ah i forget, so i create manual shortcuts thanks :)
[19:29] <PrCZeK> sidi: i tried install KDE and the same bug i think it will be HW problem :/ but on Win it works well. So maybe something in kernel i will try xubuntu 12 cause it works well i think :) thanks for help
[19:29] <sidi> PrCZeK, oh then you should definitely talk to the people in #xorg
[19:30] <sidi> or write a bug report against the X11 server / Mir server
[19:30] <sidi> not sure what Ubuntu is using any more
[19:30] <PrCZeK> i will try thanks i will join the channel
[19:30] <sidi> they will be able to help you find the issue, and hopefully even fix it
[19:30] <sidi> good luck PrCZeK !
[19:30] <PrCZeK> thanks :) and thanks for usefull information
[20:52] <DaveES> After I install 14.04.1 and I try to shell to a terminal prompt using crtl-alt-F2 the screen is blank, if I load the liveCD ctrl-alt f keys work I've tried to find something on line but have found nothing
[21:23] <PrCZeK> sidi: hi, in #xorg said me try livecd, lol again bugged, but I reset BIOS, and unlock FN key, now when i want to change volume, i only pres F3 without FN and it works fine
[21:24] <PrCZeK> but i can't exit windows with alt+f4 but i think i will survive it :D
[21:27] <holstein> you can remap what you need, PrCZeK
[21:27] <PrCZeK> holstein: yes i know thanks
[23:00] <bren_comp> Minor question about the panel: Some of the icons on the window buttons are the defaults as opposed to the icon set I have. Any reason for it?
[23:02] <elfy> perhaps there is no specific one in the icon set
[23:03] <elfy> no way of telling without knowing what icons
[23:11] <bren_comp> Alright. I'm using Numix, which has all icons set in 48x48. http://i.imgur.com/paAeJYb.png You can see in the Whisker Menu that XChat has it's own icon, but on the panel it reverts to the default.
[23:15] <ochosi> bren_comp: known issue, tell the developers to fix the app and to respect the icon-theme when setting the appicon instead of hardcoding it
[23:15] <ochosi> has nothing to do with xfce unfortunately, so there's nothing we can fix
[23:16] <bren_comp> Ah alright. I appreciate the response, I'll definitely file an issue.
[23:17] <elfy> thanks ochosi :)
[23:17] <ochosi> bren_comp: good, the more people complain about this, the more likely it is that app developers one day fix that...
[23:17] <ochosi> elfy: np
[23:22] <elfy> bren_comp: you might find it better to try hexchat - as that's more likely to have someone looking - prior to removing xchat, we were looking at changing over
[23:22] <elfy> just fyi ofc