[03:38] <ScottK> When I test build partitionmanager locally, the plugins go in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ (which is I believe correct), but on the buildds they get put in /usr/lib/kde4, which I know is wrong.
[03:38] <ScottK> Suggestions on why that might be appreicated.
[03:48] <ScottK> That or p.u.c is just wrong.
[07:16] <soee> good morning
[08:15] <soee> ScottK: hi, i checked teh partitionmanager here @ work and have the same issue we talked yesterday
[09:06] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:27] <Riddell> ScottK: good stuff on the new partitionmanager, I take it you tested it out and it does create and delete partitions?
[09:27] <Riddell> (just the last version I tried to package didn't, but I assume this one does as an official release)
[09:28]  * sitter upgrading to vivid
[09:33] <Riddell> sitter: will you switch the kci images over to vivid?
[09:33] <sitter> Riddell: it's what I said at last week's plasma meeting :(
[09:33] <sitter> you never listen :'<
[09:34] <Riddell> lo siento
[09:46]  * Riddell blogs http://wire.kubuntu.org/?p=218
[09:59] <valorie> I dunno why we aren't on top; we provide most all of the top choices: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-news-59/2014-linuxquestions-org-members-choice-award-winners-4175532948/
[10:00] <sitter> valorie: we are
[10:00] <sitter> youbuntoo
[10:01] <valorie> yeah but
[10:02] <valorie> Prometheus is a cool name
[10:02] <valorie> so is Vivid
[10:04] <sitter> what does that have to do with the poll though? ^^
[10:05] <valorie> nothing really, and the poll is just a poll
[10:05] <sitter> the distro poll had 910 people voting apparently xD
[10:06] <valorie> anybody here going to mentor for GSoC this year?
[10:06] <valorie> or participate as a student
[10:11] <Riddell> Slackware is Desktop Distribution of the Year?
[10:12] <Riddell> valorie: do you think we should have a kubuntu project for gsoc?
[10:13] <sitter> our distribution upgrader needs a slideshow
[10:13] <sitter> so boring
[10:13] <valorie> I'm not sure we have something that would be a full-time job for a summer
[10:13] <valorie> buffing up our kubuntu-only software, maybe?
[10:14] <valorie> because it has to be code
[10:17] <sitter> just sneak in kubuntu projects with kde? ;)
[10:17] <valorie> kubuntu is part of KDE, so no sneaking required
[10:18] <sitter> https://trello.com/c/hEmmytDF gdebi-kde is still a thing?
[10:18] <sitter> what Oo
[10:18] <kubotu> [Epics :: To Do :: Port away from kdesudo to kdesu ++ ]
[10:19] <Riddell> port ubiquity to qt 5
[10:19] <sitter> Riddell: that's nowhere near enough effort
[10:19] <Riddell> I'm always surprised that canonical's design team haven't improved the release upgrade tool
[10:19] <Riddell> followed by porting everything to qt 5
[10:20] <sitter> jens also didn't want to make a design for it ;)
[10:20] <sitter> Riddell: everything?
[10:20] <Riddell> sitter: all of kde software :)
[10:20] <sitter> yeah, well, that's not a very concrete objective :P
[10:20] <sitter> at any rate, ubiquity qt5 is like changing imports
[10:21] <sitter> I don't think it even uses kde classes anywhere
[10:21] <Riddell> plasma people say they're going to depend on systemd from the end of the year
[10:21] <sitter> so it'd be mostly an excersise in sedding and possibly getting rid of old crap code that was necessary because qt4 had insufficiencies (e.g. qicon::fromtheme never was used I think)
[10:22] <Riddell> seems like a nice exercise to me
[10:22] <sitter> for a week maybe
[10:23] <Riddell> there's plenty of ubiquity bugs too, like that bloody keyboard issue
[10:24] <sitter> project: move to calamares ;)
[10:24] <sitter> http://i.imgur.com/DDypiZ1.jpg <- iconfail
[10:24]  * sitter rebooting
[10:35] <sitter> vlc is still broken and crashing qt5 software :)
[10:36] <Riddell> it is?
[10:36] <Riddell> the app or the library?
[10:43] <sitter> lib
[10:43] <sitter> actually I think this was fixed in debian
[10:43] <sitter> so perhaps a merge is in order
[10:43]  * sitter has messed up fonts >.<
[10:52] <sitter> needs cherrypicking from http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-multimedia/vlc.git/log/?h=experimental apparently
[10:52] <sitter> the vlc stuff
[11:24] <sitter> Mirv, mitya57: qtbase-dev contains qt5openglconfig.cmake but doesn't pull in libqt5opengl5 (also there's a dev package for that apparently?) http://paste.ubuntu.com/10271812/
[11:24] <sitter> smells like a bug
[11:24]  * sitter feels like he complaiend about this before
[11:53] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:13] <BluesKaj> soee, you mentioned yesterday we should receive some improvements with plasma 5.2.x on thurs, correct? Any idea what they might be?
[12:18] <soee> BluesKaj: basicaly a lot of bugfixes, there are already also some parts (if not all) of QT 5.4 in so it profides also some fixes
[12:19] <soee> i think with QT 5.4 system works a bit smoother, and my window lag is gone (not sure if it is because of QT 5.4)
[12:21] <BluesKaj> no switching lag here , just loading seems to be slower than normal
[12:24] <soee> yup, booting time is slower than in 14.10
[12:28] <BluesKaj> do you have systemd as default, soee?
[12:29] <BluesKaj> because I haven't noticed any faster boot times withj it
[12:31] <soee> BluesKaj: if vivid is not using it by default, i dont have it
[12:36] <BluesKaj> soee, you have to install systemd-sysv to make it default afaik
[12:36] <BluesKaj> brb
[12:43] <soee> BluesKaj: probably, but i stick to current one until systemd become default
[12:43] <BluesKaj> works ok so far, no glitches
[12:43] <soee> im curious what the Plasma 5 feature list will be :)
[12:43] <soee> *5.3
[12:43] <BluesKaj> yeah, same here
[12:44] <soee> BluesKaj: are you on Vivid maybe ?
[12:45] <BluesKaj> yes,
[12:46] <BluesKaj> konversation is slow switching between chatroom tabs
[12:47] <BluesKaj> are you on quassel?
[12:51] <soee> BluesKaj: nope, konversation and works fine
[12:52] <soee> BluesKaj: can you confirm that it is impossible to run partitionmanager ?
[12:53] <BluesKaj> yes I can confirm ,...unable to launch blah blah blah...
[12:54] <soee> hmm kded5 and baloo_file started to use 25% cpu each
[12:55] <BluesKaj> here's the message  http://pastebin.com/h1YRLvwX
[12:55] <BluesKaj> aboyt kpartioner
[12:56] <BluesKaj> err kpartitioner
[12:56] <sitter> that's broken kdesu
[12:59] <BluesKaj> I tried dus-launch etc and nothing, so I installed gparted 
[12:59] <BluesKaj> err dbus
[13:01] <Riddell> new konversation is in vivid if anyone wants to test it
[13:01] <soee> :O
[13:01] <soee> BluesKaj: yup that message but if you try to run it from terminal, you will get infor about missing plugin or something
[13:02] <BluesKaj> Riddell, Version 1.6-beta1 ?
[13:02] <Riddell> yep
[13:02] <BluesKaj> ok running it 
[13:03] <Riddell> great
[13:03] <BluesKaj> there's a lag switching between chats
[13:03] <BluesKaj> otherwise it's fine sofar
[13:03] <soee> oh iv been running it whole day i think if it is from latets upgrades
[13:04] <soee> not a single lag for me :)
[13:05] <BluesKaj> I put Vivid on an old hdd I rescued from a Bell pvr that became obsolete, so that might have an influence
[13:08] <BluesKaj> it's a WD 250G drive, connected in an outboard enclosure with esata to sata connection
[13:12] <BluesKaj> of course the pc itself is a bit long in the tooth at 7yrs old/amd dual core 5200+ cpu...not exactly SOTA :)
[13:14] <Riddell> sitter: new about-distro is uploaded to vivid
[13:15] <sitter> \o/
[13:20] <soee> BluesKaj: but for a Kubuntu thosre arent bad specs for PC :-)
[13:20] <soee> plasmashell uses ~115 mb :)
[13:21] <Mirv> sitter: mitya57: it does recommend libqt5opengl5-dev, but if you think it stills should be handled differently you could file a Debian bug since we've no delta there
[13:21] <soee> only th PHPStorm and FirefoxDevs are hogs for me :|
[13:23] <BluesKaj> soee, yeah I'll keep this old thing til it dies ...I still ahve an old HP from 1998 that still ticks :)
[13:24] <soee> ;D
[13:24] <sitter> Mirv: :O I thought recommends get installed on buildds by default?
[13:24] <sitter> full log in question https://launchpadlibrarian.net/197920890/buildlog_ubuntu-vivid-amd64.kdenlive_0.9.50%2Bgit20150217.1118%2B15.04-0ubuntu0_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[13:25] <sitter> mh, apparently it doesn't
[13:27] <Riddell> [ubuntu/vivid] digikam 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu1 (Accepted)
[13:27] <Riddell> awooga
[13:27] <Riddell> BluesKaj: soee: more new stuff to test ↑
[13:29] <sitter> Riddell: still no bluez5 oh my oh my oh my
[13:29] <Riddell> or systemd
[13:29] <Riddell> makes you wonder what these ubuntu developers are doing all day
[13:30] <sitter> playing pong on their phones, that's what I'd do
[13:30] <sitter> #QA
[13:31] <sitter> hm
[13:31] <sitter> 13:03:15 
[13:31] <sitter> 13:03:15 The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[13:31] <sitter> 13:03:15  bluedevil : Depends: bluez (>= 5) but it is not going to be installed
[13:31] <sitter> 13:03:15              Depends: bluez-obexd but it is not installable
[13:31] <sitter> that actually blocks kci promotion
[13:34] <Riddell> 13:31 < didrocks> Riddell: syncing with the Touch team is today (in a couple of hours), will keep you posted
[13:34] <Riddell> 13:31 < didrocks> Riddell: the desktop-side is almost fully ready, won't block anyway
[13:34] <Riddell> sitter: ↑
[13:34] <BluesKaj> Riddell, digikam is in dependency hell on my pc http://pastebin.com/NVA1ZXf6
[13:34] <sitter> see, the touch team is playing pong instead of making bluez happen :P
[13:34] <Riddell> it should be libkgeomap2
[13:35] <Riddell> BluesKaj: are you sure you're installing 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu1
[13:36] <soee> whre do you get those upgrades from ? :)
[13:36] <Riddell> which upgrades?
[13:36] <soee> digikam
[13:36] <soee> wait i thought i had it isntalled, have to check
[13:36] <Riddell> digikam 4:4.7.0-0ubuntu1 is in vivid, you'll need to use archive.ubuntu.com
[13:37] <Riddell> systemd 13:36 < pitti> Riddell: still blocked on fixing bug 1312976 (slangasek), and updating juju and maas :(
[13:37] <sitter> 4.7.0 isn't in the archive yet
[13:37] <soee> i have the main server, apt=cache policy shows: Kandydująca:   4:4.2.0-0ubuntu1
[13:37] <sitter> publishing delay one supposes
[13:37] <BluesKaj> Riddell I'm on Vivid
[13:38] <Riddell> oh you're right I'm installing from -proposed
[13:38] <Riddell> well wait an hour or two
[13:38] <BluesKaj> right
[13:39] <sitter> Riddell: that is rather short list fortunately, is the plan still to land systemd this cycle?
[13:39] <Riddell> sitter: I guess so
[13:40] <sitter> let's hope then
[13:40] <BluesKaj> i have systemd on both 14.10 and 15.04 and seem to be working well
[13:41] <Riddell> I just noticed feature freeze is on thursday this week 
[13:42] <Riddell> Sput: I may have read that wrong when talking to you ↑
[13:42] <sitter> hence my whining on all fronts :P
[13:42] <Riddell> (in which case we can get an exception)
[13:42] <sitter> still need to land upgrader IMO
[13:42] <Riddell> upgrader?
[13:42] <sitter> qt5 port
[13:42] <Riddell> does that exist?
[13:42] <sitter> https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/ubuntu-release-upgrader/qt5/+merge/229620
[13:43] <sitter> I am actually content to say that we shouldn't be trying to use pyqt5 on trusty and perhaps not even utopic. former in particular shouldn't really have an expectation of being tested well enough
[13:45] <sitter> oh apport also needs porting, although IIRC that was a bit more work as it actually uses kde classes
[13:45] <sitter> albeit, there we can also go full qt now
[13:46] <Riddell> lazy me needs to review it
[13:47] <sitter> translation loading in the upgrader was a bit fishy IIRC
[13:51] <Riddell> hi manchicken 
[13:59] <Sput> Riddell: nope, you told me it's on Thursday actually
[14:00] <Sput> so we're on track; the KF5 port is done, and I intend to tag a feature-frozen beta1 on Wed night
[14:01] <Sput> also mamarley has a PPA with working nightly packages for kubuntu with KF5 integration, in case you want to save time for packaging you could just have a look at his
[14:01] <Sput> sitter, ScottK ^
[14:03] <Riddell> thanks Sput 
[14:05] <Sput> yw :)
[14:05] <Sput> always good to have a deadline to get stuff done!
[14:57] <ScottK> soee: I'm still trying to figure out why it doesn't find the plugins.  It does look like they are installed to the correct locations.
[14:59] <mitya57> sitter: I think we should move Qt5OpenGLConfig.cmake from qtbase5-dev to libqt5opengl5-dev
[14:59] <sitter> mitya57: seems reasonable
[15:00] <mitya57> Btw the whole opengl module is deprecated, that's one of the reason why we split it out
[15:02] <sitter> kdenlive is a newly ported app
[15:02]  * sitter just grepped and neither frameworks nor plasma use it apparently \o/
[15:09] <mitya57> sitter: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/qt/qtbase.git/commit/?id=04c048339765c488
[15:11] <Quintasan> Riddell: ping
[15:11] <sitter> mitya57: <3
[15:13] <Riddell> hi Quintasan 
[15:13] <Quintasan> You got me confused now with the ksnake
[15:13] <Quintasan> >probably just needs ksnakeduel binary and .desktop removed from cmake and it's good to go
[15:14] <Quintasan> Why would we want to remove the ksnakeduel binary?
[15:15] <Riddell> Quintasan: because there's already kdesnake ?
[15:15] <Riddell> ksnakeduel is just kdesnake loaded with another profile isn't it? and there's a menu item to do that
[15:16] <Quintasan> Uh no.
[15:16] <Quintasan> At least I don't think so
[15:16] <Quintasan> ktron == ksnakeduel
[15:16] <Quintasan> ksnake = ksnakeduel --snake
[15:16] <sitter> Oo
[15:17]  * sitter consults with the coffee robot
[15:17] <Riddell> oh there's a frameworks branch too which isn't merged :(
[15:18] <sitter> they are all over the place
[15:18] <sitter> half the apps have ports that aren't in master for reasons behond my apprehension
[15:18] <sitter> also, coffee robot says EOUTOFBEANS if that helps with the snake dicussion :P
[15:18] <Riddell> people too scared of causing offence like with print-manager maybe
[15:19] <Quintasan> Riddell: http://im9.eu/picture/ds3820
[15:19] <Quintasan> That's ksnakeduel (the binary is named ktron
[15:19] <Quintasan> if you run that with --snake switch it goes to single player mode
[15:20] <Riddell> and there's no UI to do that?
[15:20] <sitter> I think I need to merge dragon port into master
[15:20] <Quintasan> There is an ui
[15:20] <sitter> lukas totally inherited maintainership but didn't do it I think :P
[15:20] <Quintasan> Riddell: Typ gry is "Game mode" roughly translated
[15:20] <Quintasan> And there is "KSnake mode" in the dropdown
[15:21] <Riddell> right, so no need for two binaries
[15:21] <Quintasan> There are no two binaries. Only two desktop files
[15:21] <Riddell> maybe that should be more obvious like a menu item rather than hidden in settings
[15:21] <Quintasan> and one binary
[15:22] <Quintasan> wait
[15:22] <Quintasan> what the hell
[15:22] <Quintasan> ...
[15:22] <Quintasan> bloody hell
[15:23] <sitter> such rage
[15:23] <Riddell> our package does have both /usr/games/kdesnake
[15:23] <Riddell> /usr/games/ksnakeduel
[15:23] <Quintasan> Yeah, I'm wondering where it's going wrong
[15:23] <Riddell> but really there's no need for both binaries or both desktop files
[15:23] <Riddell> it's an in-app setting
[15:24] <Quintasan> Okay. I'll just rename ktron to ksnakeduel and get rid of kdesnake binary and desktop file
[15:24] <Quintasan> This got really confusing all of sudden
[15:24] <Riddell> for such a simple program, it does mess with your mind
[15:26] <sitter> why are we meddling with this anyway? 
[15:26] <Quintasan> Copyright issues
[15:26] <sitter> surely that should be addressed upstream?
[15:27] <Riddell> we are addressing it upstream
[15:27] <sitter> ok
[15:27] <sitter> I'll shut up then :P
[15:27] <Riddell> it's a trademark issue but that's mostly gone, it's more a tidying up the packaging issue which needs fixed upstream
[15:29] <Quintasan> Okay, so how the hell do I build this now
[15:30] <Quintasan> Qt went apeshit on my system
[15:31] <Quintasan> what
[15:52] <Quintasan> I just changed the goddamn path
[15:52] <Quintasan> T_T
[15:57] <BluesKaj> /me avoids paths of the damned :)
[15:58] <Quintasan> blargh
[15:58] <Quintasan> Let me revert it
[16:01] <Quintasan> sitter: Do you perhaps know how does KXMLGUIClient magic work?
[16:28] <Quintasan> Riddell: Can you please add http://paste.ubuntu.com/10275569/ to your reviewboard suggestion (https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/121589/) ?
[16:29] <Quintasan> I don't know how does review board handle removals
[16:29] <Quintasan> But we need to get rid of kdesnake.desktop
[16:29] <Quintasan> A total rename is impossible for me at this point since I can't figure out why it doesn't look for themes in the new path after I rename literally everything
[16:33] <sitter> Quintasan: push your work somewhere
[16:33] <Riddell> yeah give me the whole diff
[16:34] <sitter> Quintasan: I presume it doesnt load the xml config?
[16:37] <sitter> well I gotta run
[16:37] <sitter> Quintasan: make sure the kaboutdata in main.cpp use the new name and the gui rc file is installed with that name
[16:37] <sitter> that's how kxmlgui knows which rc to use
[16:37]  * sitter out
[16:41] <Riddell> hmm, guess it's time for 14.04.2
[16:50] <Quintasan> Riddell: Okay, moment please
[16:51] <Riddell> well I need to leave soon too
[16:54] <Quintasan> Riddell: https://github.com/Quintasan/ksnakeduel
[17:03] <Riddell> Quintasan: any idea how to get a diff compared to the kde git repository?
[17:12] <Quintasan> Riddell: I guess you could try applying the diff on top of the git repository
[17:12] <Quintasan> But that hardly solves the problem
[19:11] <trevize> hello, have a question regarding usb speeds. when I plug my usb disk I have full write speed 30/mbs, dmesg shows ehci-pci. but when I plug another usb device on another usb port, the usb disk gets disconnected and then reconnects using uhci_hcd while usb speed drops to kbits. Is there any way to fix this?
[19:16] <vip> hello there; there is no sddm package in http://www.kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5.2 -> ppa:kubuntu-ppa/next-backports
[19:16] <vip> should I use https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/next instead? (for 14.10)
[20:04] <soee> Riddell: digikam 4.7 works pretty nice
[20:52] <soee> !package sni-qt
[23:05] <stikonas> ScottK: you asked me to ping you... partitionmanager-1.2.1.tar.xz is almost ready (just waiting for it to be mirrored)
[23:05] <ScottK> stikonas: OK.  Thanks.
[23:05] <stikonas> I also changed the homepage inside the app...
[23:06] <stikonas> The previous domain owned by Volker Lanz has expired after he passed away...
[23:06] <ScottK> stikonas: I still didn't work out why the plugins weren't found.  Near as I can tell, they were in the right place.
[23:06] <ScottK> OK. 
[23:06] <ScottK> We'll try again with 1.2.1.