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daftykinsi just turned 30, chaps00:04
daftykins:(00:04
shauno:(00:07
* daftykins is scared00:08
shaunowell, you should be.  the best years of your life are officially over, and it's all downhill until bedpans from here00:08
daftykins\o/00:08
daftykinsnever was a truer word spoken00:09
shaunothe trick from here, is to quit thinking about it00:10
shaunowhen I realised that people leaving school, weren't born when I left school, I felt old.00:11
daftykinsi see, imagine i don't know, eh?00:11
shaunojust never do the  math and you'll be fine :)00:11
zmoylan-pior do it in base 16...00:19
daftykinstime for more beer methinks00:22
shaunothat sounds a lot like my 30th :)00:22
popey\o/ beer00:24
daftykins:D00:25
daftykinsa local mate shares my birthday so i'm relying on his surprise event on Saturday for more of an effort really ;)00:26
mappmajor crimes is so good:D01:21
mappdid u ever try pidora zmoylan-pi?02:13
zmoylan-pii'm happy with raspian at the mo.02:21
zmoylan-pimight play with a few other oses when i finally get a pi 2.  but i need a hdmi monitor first02:21
daftykinszmoylan-pi: VGA only in your parts?02:59
zmoylan-pithey've worked till now.  had to connect my current pi to scart to set it up.  now connect via ssh or vnc03:06
mappah ok03:15
mappi just use mine with tv03:15
mappim ordering a pi2..but have to get it sent to spain lol03:16
mappcant order anything to gibraltar :(03:16
daftykinsweird :S03:16
zmoylan-piit's one of those 'parts of the uk' right until you want something delivered there03:18
daftykinssame drama as here03:19
daftykinshmm i wonder if amazon UK crawled back to life yet03:19
zmoylan-pisee northern ireland03:19
zmoylan-piis there a parcelmotel service that would do the delivery end of things?03:24
mappi managed to order 1 cable off amazon but laptop..rasperry pi all said no03:27
mappeven protein lol myprotein.co.uk wanted 60quid for delovery O_o03:27
zmoylan-piworst delivery story goes to a guy i worked with.  he wanted to buy a dvd when dvds were new and shiny.03:28
daftykinswell if love is involved too...03:28
daftykinszmoylan-pi: ooh do tell :D03:28
zmoylan-pihe's a batman fan and they announced a special batman animated dvd. it was never going to be shown unedited on tv.  he had to have it03:29
zmoylan-piso he waited till it was released and they announced it was only region 1.  so no dvds for europe03:29
zmoylan-piso he organised with family members in usa to send it to him when he had it delivered to there place.03:30
daftykinsthis was prior to DVD Jon presumably? :>03:30
zmoylan-pithen they wouldn't let a european order a usa dvd for reasons we could never quite work out03:30
daftykinsthe whole of space-time will collapse!03:31
zmoylan-pihe was prepared, when he bought a dvd player he bought a region free dvd player03:31
zmoylan-piso he sent money to usa relatives and they ordered it and posted it to him.03:31
zmoylan-pidrove him bonkers every step...03:31
mappdvd john?:)03:31
mapplol hassle zmoylan-pi :)03:31
zmoylan-piand then 2 days before it arrived someone broke into his house and stole his tv and dvd player03:32
zmoylan-piso he had a dvd in his hands and no way to view it.  laptops were only just beginning to ship with dvd drives.03:32
daftykinsmapp: teenager that cracked the DVD encryption, ja03:33
daftykinsat least he was a teen at the time, 13-15 iirc03:33
zmoylan-pionly machine in the office with dvd belonged to boss.  and refused to play region 1.03:33
daftykinszmoylan-pi: lmao03:33
daftykinsthat is one impressive tale03:33
zmoylan-pitook me an hour to flip it to region 1 in firmware but i thought he was going to lose it at that point :-)03:33
mappwhle thing wouldve driven me mad03:34
mappthe shipping hassle and sods law of being burgled03:34
zmoylan-pihe had gone out of his way when getting a dvd player to make sure it was region free as he knew he'd end up with 1-2 dvds from usa.  wasn't easy back then.03:35
daftykins:>03:36
daftykinsand now you can just rip fine03:36
mappyea03:36
daftykinsalthough de-interlacing NTSC DVDs is a tad tedious03:36
zmoylan-piso now he just torrents everything.  he'll try and buy it but once he hits any little bumps he remembers the batman dvd and nearly popping an artery trying to get it and watch it03:36
daftykins8)03:38
mapphm that film wasnt bad03:57
mappno good deed with idris elba03:57
=== Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away
=== zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi
mapphm#04:21
mappalmost bed time04:21
knightwiseYawn06:18
knightwisetime to get up06:18
zmoylan-pifight those urges06:31
knightwisemorning peeps07:50
MooDoomorning07:57
knightwisehey MooDoo08:07
knightwisehow are you doing today !08:07
knightwise:)08:07
* knightwise figured out why the wifi was a tad slow on his surface pro 08:07
MooDooknightwise: yeah I'm ok thanks08:09
knightwisehmm... 128 gig of storage is kinda on the small side08:13
knightwiseI had this great 64 gig Micro SD card I could have popped in .. but I lost it somewhere :(:(08:13
knightwiseMooDoo: what machine are you currently working on btw ?08:15
SuperMattmorning all08:18
knightwisehey SuperMatt08:18
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Pancake Day! :-D09:24
MooDoomorning09:25
knightwisehey JamesTait09:34
popey\o/ Pancakes09:35
popeyI may have to go and make some09:35
MartijnVdS sounds like a good idea09:35
popeyi should make a huge batch and save them for later.09:35
JamesTaitknightwise, o/09:36
knightwisehey popey09:37
knightwisepopey: you should make a batch and share them with us09:37
knightwisemorning MartijnVdS b09:37
popeyheh09:37
popeygood luck with that09:37
MartijnVdSI could probably use some of my brothers' beer to make them09:38
popeymmmm beer09:38
MooDoosomeone say beer?09:39
MooDoojust cleaned out my barrels and mashing bucket for my first batch of the year09:40
=== Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte
davmor2hmmmmmm pancakes09:54
popeyright, screw it, I'm off to make pancakes10:02
MartijnVdShave fun!10:05
knightwisedamn10:20
knightwisepopey made me hungry10:20
Laneypancakes & pub quiz later on \o/10:29
popey\o/ made some10:31
popeystored for the kids for later10:31
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.10:33
knightwiseYo brobostigon !10:34
popeyyo10:34
brobostigonmorning knightwise and popey10:34
diploMooDoo, like your url ( rubbishhosting ) :)10:50
davmor2popey: and you are the biggest kid right so you'll eat them alllllll muhahahahahaha10:55
MooDoodiplo: yeah it's just me playing about lol10:56
davmor2and then have to make some more obviously :)10:56
diploWhere do you host the servers ? At work ?10:56
MooDoodiplo: shhhhh garage ;)10:57
diploHow do you get around mail etc on a dsl/cable line ?10:57
MooDoodiplo: 15 sites doesn't generate much traffic, so it's been ok so far :D10:58
davmor2MooDoo: is a Shhhhhhh garage just a lie,  I'd of thought hmmmmmmmmmmm garage would of been closer with all those fans spinning10:58
MooDooit's only 3 servers, one nas and a desktop10:58
davmor2MooDoo: that's a lot of spinny things then :P10:59
MooDoodries your hair if you've just been in the shower ;)10:59
MooDoodiplo: it's not ideal, but it works for me at the moment10:59
MartijnVdSI need to fix my new router to make less fan noises11:01
popeydavmor2: managed to resist, had two, and saved 6 for the kids.11:01
diploIt was to the point that a lot of isp's block stuff now adays for hosting stuff at home11:04
popeyhttps://www.etsy.com/shop/RabbitEngineering?section_id=16362079&ref=shopsection_leftnav_111:04
popeySO CUTE!11:04
MooDoodiplo: i've been doing it ages and not been penalised yet, I think they are ok with home hosting, just not if i'm maxing the connection constantly11:09
diploah right, well my line is to rubbish to host anything on, go with a digital ocean droplet for a few quid a month :)11:10
MartijnVdSMooDoo: I have one of these at home: http://routerboard.com/RB1100AHx2 (overkill³)11:10
davmor2diplo: on virgin it's fine as long as you use standard ports it's in the t's and c's11:11
MartijnVdSMooDoo: they don't care about hosting stuff at home here -- they can't really complain when selling 500/500 ;)11:11
diploI'm debating going back to Virgin11:11
popeyI have run stuff at home on virgin for _years_11:14
popeynever been a problem11:14
MooDooMartijnVdS: nice though, i'm just using 2 x 8 port switches11:16
MooDooMartijnVdS: so I can have one nic on one switch and the other nic on the other switch :D11:17
MartijnVdSMooDoo: this one should be able to do 1.5 gigabits of ipsec.. apparently11:21
MartijnVdSMooDoo: (so en/decrypting)11:21
MartijnVdSso a little 500/500 home routing is peanuts11:22
czajkowskiRAT tickets booked :D11:24
popey\o/11:26
diploMooDoo, what do you do about fixed ip, taking it virgin still don't offer that?11:27
popeydynamic dns11:27
popeypopey.mooo.com points to my home11:27
popeyafraid.org do dynamic dyns11:27
diploYeah I've used them before, I guess if you pay for the solution you can sort mail records etc11:27
popeyi wouldn't do mail at home11:28
MooDoodiplo: no static, I just use no-ip but it hasn't changed in awhile11:31
MooDooi use afraid.org as well11:31
diployeah I remember mine used to change once every 9 months or so, or if we had a powercut11:33
davmor2diplo: http://store.virginmedia.com/the-legal-stuff/acceptable-use-policy.html section 711:34
davmor2diplo: +1 on no-ip11:34
diployeah I already use dynamic, just wondering what VM were like now adays, been a few years for me11:36
diploOne of the biggest issues I had was when torrenting ( legitimately or not ) it used to kill the line11:37
diploWhats the like now ?11:37
davmor2diplo: as long as you turn superhub to modem only mode it just works11:37
diploCool, well they keep spamming me with letters of offers so I guess I may take them up on it11:37
popeyyeah, superhub in modem only mode and add a router in front of it = win11:46
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)11:47
awilkinsYou do have a pick a router that can route WAN -> LAN at a high enough speed11:57
awilkinsFor dynamic DNS I use duckdns these days11:58
awilkinsYou can set up a client to refresh it really simply with curl or wget11:58
awilkinsAlthough my IP hardly ever changes, as above11:58
intrbizbigcalm: morning12:01
diploI've got a Draytek 2830 that does Cable or DSL, probably stay with that for now12:02
intrbizwe have a Draytek in the office, horride device12:02
awilkinsI went for an ASUS RT-N16 because it's relatively modern, routes fast enough for 100Mbit/s, and is well supported by OpenWRT12:04
intrbizI use an old mini-itx board at home, PPPoE for the ADSL line and a ton of OpenVPN clients12:07
diploI used to use a mini-itx till it died12:08
diploWhat don't you like about the Drayteks ? We use them all over12:08
diploOnly reason I have the draytek is that it was sat in my office doing nothing, had the original Sagem horrible thing at home before12:09
intrbizdiplo: overpriced, awful (I mean truely terrible) web interface are the two main reasons12:09
diploI'd agree with overpriced, although we never have issues with them. Rock solid up time etc12:09
diploWeb interface I guess I've got used to now :/12:10
knightwiseI was wondering if its possible to put a standard router you buy in the shop into 'real' router mode12:38
knightwisehence to link up 2 subnets WITHOUT the nat translaion12:38
knightwiseThing is , i'm currently trying to seperate the networks from my own company and the one for my geeky projects12:39
MartijnVdSknightwise: routerboard.com ;)12:39
MartijnVdSknightwise: also VLANs12:39
MartijnVdS(consumer routers can do VLANs, but not with stock firmware, at least not easily; openwrt can do it, but it's also a hassle; RouterOS/Routerboard stuff just has it built in, clicky clicky)12:40
knightwisehm :) I have the ac66ru from Asus12:40
knightwiseIt supports vlans i think12:40
MartijnVdSknightwise: I have this at home http://routerboard.com/RB1100AHx2 (way overpowered), but for most home use scenarios, RB750GL would be more than enough.12:41
MartijnVdSOr one of the RB2011 series12:41
knightwiseCool beans12:41
MartijnVdSknightwise: they also have managed/manageable 5-port gigabit switches for the same price as expensive non-managed ones in stores12:42
knightwiseTrue. but even if I have 2 vlans I need to have some routing inbetweeen12:43
MartijnVdSknightwise: http://routerboard.com/RB750GL12:43
knightwisemmmm :) Coolz12:43
MartijnVdSknightwise: you can try the OS in a VM -- they offer CD install images for download (24 hour trial)12:43
knightwiseThat wouldn't be a bad idea actually . I could run a vm router on my home server , pop in a second network card and hook that up to the 2nd subnet12:44
brobostigonmikrotik.com12:44
MartijnVdSknightwise: with vlans, you don't need the second card. it's all tagged traffic on the same cable12:44
MartijnVdSbrobostigon: exactly -- it has CD installer images to download (for a "router" VM)12:45
brobostigonyes.12:45
MartijnVdSI'm using these devices for wifi deployments at small companies too now12:45
MartijnVdS("waiting room wifi")12:46
knightwiseas a vm ?12:46
MartijnVdSknightwise: no for the wireless networks I deploy actual devices they offer12:46
MartijnVdSknightwise: but on mikrotik.com you can download x86 CD images that you can use to install a virtual machine with their RouterOS12:47
MartijnVdS(and it'll be a trial that works for 24 hours; if you like it you can buy a license or some dedicated hardware)12:47
knightwiseand then assign to virtual network cards to it12:47
MartijnVdSknightwise: yeah you could do that. Create VLAN interfaces on the host, create several virtual NICs on the guest, and use those. Or give one virtual NIC, bridged with your real NIC to the guest, and have it do the VLAN stuff itself12:49
MartijnVdS(otherwise you'd get vlan-in-vlan if you created VLANs inside the VM; that's usually not what you ant)12:51
MartijnVdS+w12:51
knightwise:) making it a little too complex for a home network here  :)12:52
shaunoI think that's just the scenario if you try to use a VM as a router.  if you buy a box it looks totally normal12:53
* zmoylan-pi looks at my wifi ap connected to my landlords ap for free internet...12:53
=== mhilton is now known as mhilton-lunch
knightwiseYaaaawn12:58
knightwiseafternoon fatige12:59
* brobostigon drafts a coffee/tcp protocol.12:59
zmoylan-piping times increase with repeated usage?13:00
brobostigonping times increase in cold weather, as it takes longer to heat water.13:01
zmoylan-piand an 'out of coffee' error would see the system going slower and slower before stopping completely13:03
brobostigonyep.13:04
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knightwisehmmm13:20
knightwisei assume program manager in the US is a timelord13:20
knightwiseshe obviously has not comprehension of linear time13:21
zmoylan-picould be a prophet from the wormhole...13:21
knightwisezmoylan-pi: Ive never seen her before13:22
knightwiseshe could be non-coporial13:22
davmor2Currently loving the Mars one up dogs advert13:43
diddledanello folks13:47
davmor2diddledan: o/13:51
Laneysomeone just showed me a taylor swift song13:51
Laneyquite liking it to be quite honest with you13:51
knightwisewe weep for you13:52
* MooDoo slaps laney13:52
MooDoo"this sick beat"   omg i've just breached copyright13:52
* knightwise runs around screaming 'the end of the world'13:52
Laneyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfWlot6h_JM13:52
Laneygive it a chance13:52
MooDoono13:52
MooDooit's crap13:52
Laneynope!13:52
MooDoosorry did i just say that out loud13:52
MooDoosomeone mentions taylor swift and my instant reaction is CRAP! lol ooops13:53
knightwiseLaney: its not bad considering most forms of crap that passes for pop music these days13:53
diddledanLaney, thank goodness it's not more gangsta turd :-p13:54
knightwise diddledan I agree.13:55
knightwiseit might be my age showing but pop music doesn't seem to do it for me these days13:55
diddledanknightwise, gangsta really gets my goat riled13:56
Laneyhaha13:56
Laneygood job you get to like what you want eh13:56
knightwisewhenever the words 'Club , homeys, hood, gansta, money, nigga, cops or my personal favorite "booty" are part of the lyrics .. i'm out !13:57
daftykinsafternoonings13:57
diddledanknightwise, and "pop a cap"13:57
diddledanallo daftykins13:57
daftykinsthat'd be the popcap games right out, then13:57
davmor2Laney: No I'm MooDoo the worst of the 80's/90's/00's music wasn't that awful13:58
daftykinshappy 30th to daftykins \o/13:58
knightwisedaftykins: congrats ! you are 10 years my junior :p13:58
daftykins^_^ thanks13:58
daftykinsit feels... nasty.13:58
popeyLaney: i love that sony :)13:58
popey*song13:58
Laneyyeah whatever, go write something off because it's popular13:59
daftykinsnot being your junior, but being 30 :D13:59
Laneypopey: the video is great too13:59
popeyyes13:59
popeySophie did a dance to that in the panto this year13:59
popeymade it stick in my head13:59
diddledandaftykins, happy "yet another day"13:59
davmor2daftykins: hippo birdy13:59
daftykinshippos! \o/14:00
popeyI'd not seen that video before, it's excellent fun.14:00
* popey adds to special list.14:01
daftykinsi love that i don't even know who that girl is14:01
davmor2popey, Laney: I think there are much better earworms than that14:01
daftykinswatched a bit, but nah - off14:01
popeywell, you do know who it is14:01
popeybecause Laney explicitly said Taylor Swift14:02
daftykinsyou know what i mean :P14:02
popeyi properly don't14:02
daftykinsprior to clicking i couldn't have pointed her out in a crowd14:02
popeydavmor2: come up with one that is from the last 10 years and not your 1000 hits of the 80s cds :)14:02
popeyme either.14:02
* daftykins tucks into his Boots triple-pack sandwich and coffee14:02
popeydon't see that it's remarkable though14:02
popeyalthough I follow her on twitter14:03
popeyhttps://twitter.com/swiftonsecurity14:03
popeyso her face stares out of the screen at me now and then14:03
daftykinsthere seems to be a bit of fuss about her in another channel today, but i really can't say i see it14:04
daftykinsho-hum, not a topic for this channel anywho :)14:04
awilkinsMmn, eggy in the basket14:04
Laneyjust wanted to share a recent in my humble opinion pretty good pop tune14:05
Laneynext time i'll redress the balance with some gregorian chants14:05
davmor2popey: 2013 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mGBaXPlri8  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRMOMjCoR58 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CevxZvSJLk8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaAVByGaON0  do you want more? I have lots14:05
popeyoh dear http://english.alarabiya.net/en/variety/2015/02/16/Saudi-cleric-Sun-revolves-around-stationary-Earth.html14:05
popeyhaha, good call davmor214:05
popeynot heard tatu for a long while14:06
Laneyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcDy8HEg1QY 199414:06
diddledantatu? they're fun!14:06
davmor2popey: there is all about us by tatu too14:06
davmor2popey: were they new enough?14:06
popey:)14:07
popeylulz Laney14:07
daftykinsi've decided i quite like the spam email someone forwarded to me, asking why they couldn't block it. it doesn't have a 'from' address :)14:07
Laneythis song reminds me of the big breakfast14:08
Laneynot sure why14:08
popeyi used to love the big breakfast14:08
popeywould set my alarm for 10 to 7, switch on tv in bed and watch it for 2 hours then go to work14:08
Laneyzig and zag from the planet zog14:08
popeyya14:08
popeyfriend of mine was in the bathroom with zig and zag once14:08
davmor2popey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B32yjbCSVpU14:08
popeythey wanted people with strange phobias14:08
MartijnVdSLaney: https://www.youtube.com/user/ZoggFromBetelgeuse14:09
popeyshe pretended to be afraid of wooden spoons14:09
popeyand her friend was afraid of beards14:09
davmor2Laney: Mr Blobby I think wins the most annoying earworm14:09
popeynaturally zig and zag put false beards on and waved spoons about14:09
daftykinsXD14:10
davmor2popey: this is quiet earwormy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ejga4kJUts14:10
popeydid you know they filmed the zig and zag bits on separate days, in batches14:10
popeyand had to ensure chris wore the same shirt for continuity14:11
davmor2popey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoQYw49saqc14:13
davmor2popey: and finally https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KEEXyRL0qE14:14
popeywow, i forgot they wore ski jackets14:15
daftykinsthe other Cranberries stuff is ace :)14:16
knightwiseDog loves to take food out of his bowl and to come eat it right next to me14:16
knightwisecruncy sounds = driving me bonkers14:16
knightwiseits like an auditory ddos to my thinking process14:17
davmor2knightwise: haha14:18
davmor2popey: on top of that there is anything by Katy Perry, Lady Gaga, Beyonce, shakira (especially when ever where ever), tatu, Evanescence, Meggan whatever her name is (all about the base, lips are Movin' etc),14:22
davmor2the list goes on and on14:23
=== alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g
davmor2If I go back another 10 years however then you start with Prodigy and it goes down hill fast from there :)14:24
intrbizargh, the drone for the workmen's generator (replacing gas mains) is driving me nuts14:30
davmor2popey: definitely finally https://www.youtube.com/watch?hl=en-GB&v=9bZkp7q19f0&gl=GB14:31
popeyNope nope nope :)14:35
davmor2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ6zr6kCPj814:39
davmor2just leave that there for popey14:39
davmor2popey: not don't listen to this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRfuAukYTKg :D14:45
=== mhilton-lunch is now known as mhilton
MooDoohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OY-0nbmIZe4 just leave this one for you all too14:48
GreblusHi I'm gona need a hand in half an hour to get "HugeGreenBugs_Ubuntu_14.04_64bit_for_Acer_C720" setup for an C720P .. is anyone going to be around ?14:51
diddledanerr..14:52
GreblusJust need a hand with the partitions on the USB. at installation options (please).14:52
daftykinsugh another chromebook buyer14:55
daftykinsGreblus: there are roughly a billion guides online14:55
davmor2popey: and of course https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWgvGjAhvIw14:55
knightwiseGreblus: are you going to use crouton or dual boot ?15:31
knightwisedaftykins: be nice :) Its just another linux user like us15:32
diddledanknightwise, "one of us"15:32
zmoylan-pithere are no other linux users like daftykins :-P15:32
knightwiselol15:33
knightwiseGreblus: i would make the suggestion to use crouton if you are quite new to the whole thing. It makes for a good system for hardware compatibility15:33
diddledanlol, windows has a "god mode"? http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/enabling-godmode-windows-1015:48
diddledanit looks to be just an aggregation of every accessible setting from the control panel into a single list15:50
Greblusknightwise, Saw your podcast recently, It must have been a second attempt at the chromebook podcast, I think.Well done  I shall be with you once I've uploaded where I am upto on imgur .. hold tight (10-15,minutes possibly). Thanks for your help so far.15:54
diddledanknightwise has a podcast?15:54
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diddledanknightwise, are you holding out on me?!15:54
knightwiseGreblus: thanx :)16:00
knightwisecheck the website for during that week we have done "chromebook week" with quite a few posts on how to get it all working16:01
knightwisediddledan: you didn"'t know ? i've been podcasting for over 8 years16:01
knightwisewww.knightwise.com16:01
* diddledan subscribes16:02
knightwiseyou can check out the live recordings over at www.knightwise.com/youtube16:02
Greblusknightwise is very wise on ubuntu Macbookair's. +116:04
knightwiselol :) Thanx Greblus :)16:04
knightwisei make a sport out of installing ubunt on things that arent supposed to run it in the first place :)16:04
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GreblusOK, I'm still uploading to imgur  may tae a while.16:04
GreblusI can go get the powerlead to the chromebook.. while tha's happening.16:05
Greblus**that's16:05
knightwiseGreblus: should you do the install with crouton , remember to add the -x11 and -audio switches to the installer16:09
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Greblusknightwise, I've uploaded here's my question:16:27
GreblusOK so I have five lines of messages so please don't put me down by saying I'm flooding: it's complicated at best.16:28
GreblusOk .. so here's what I want to do: Vox http://bit.ly/vocaroo_VOX116:28
GreblusHere's partly the instructions I used: http://bit.ly/17NeiN016:28
Greblusnote, PLEASE don't just say install crouton as I bought this laptop to try the hugegreenbugs distro purposely for that reason only.16:28
GreblusHere's the album of where I am upto:   http://bit.ly/HGBugs_Installation_Album16:29
GreblusApologies for the amount of partition on the HDD-itself, I wiped ChromeOS by putting Ubuntu on the HDD instead of the USB last time.16:29
GreblusJust need to know how to get it onto the USB drive. Which partition should I use according to the photographs in the album ?16:29
Greblusphew .. now the pain of an answer .. :)16:30
knightwiseholdon , i'm looking through the links16:31
knightwiseok .. thats not an easy one :)16:33
knightwiseI've done the crouton ones so i'm not sure how to do the repartitioning , but lets see what i can find16:34
Greblusright as you can tell, I'm a very patient person, these days.16:34
knightwisehere is a post about what the partitioning looks like for a different os : http://chromeos-cr48.blogspot.be/2012/12/so-you-want-chrubuntu-on-external-drive.html16:36
knightwiseso this one will tell you where the different partitions are16:36
knightwiseafter installing everything (including grub) to the bootloader , you should press ctrl-U after you power on the machine to choose between the boot devices16:37
Greblusknightwse, I can pretty much see I have two options..16:38
Greblus1, use a separate external memory card, which I can d no problem, I guess (but only 32gb) , or two..16:39
Greblus2, secondly, Someone can tell me how to install the OS to the USB that I am installing from on the side of the chromebook,, i.e. which external partition option ?  perhaps I'm missing something as I purposely bought the Kinston 64GB to use as and extrnal USB Ubuntu stick, . Am I wrong in that respect ?16:41
knightwiseThere is a third option16:42
Greblusyou see , I dren't muck this up a second time.16:42
Greblus*daren't16:42
knightwiseinstall the OS to your USB stick as a live system and make it persistent16:42
GreblusThat's exactly what I'm trying to do.16:43
knightwisethat way you run it off the usb stick ...; and don't have to bother to install it TO the usb stick16:43
GreblusHow do I do that on windows ?16:43
knightwiseyou have the iso of the distro right ?16:43
Greblus(my second machine).16:43
Greblusyes.16:43
knightwiseunetbootin !16:43
Greblusthat doesn't work .. only Win32 Drisk Imager.16:44
Greblus*Disk Imager16:44
Greblus(I've ried twice).16:44
Greblus*Tried.16:45
knightwisewin32diskimager should be able to do the trick ?16:45
knightwisewhat distro do you want to use ?16:45
Greblusbut it just loads to the install option .. not the full installation, I think .. or am I missing something .. perhaps another look at my albumn , no ?16:45
knightwisewhat distro are you installing ?16:46
Greblushttps://www.distroshare.com/distros/get/12/16:46
knightwiseOk,16:46
Greblus( that is , it's custom esigned for my machine).16:47
Greblus*designed ..16:47
knightwiseI think that hugh is the man to turn too for this one. have you asked a question in the comments tab ?16:47
knightwiseHugh gets back to you pretty quick16:48
knightwisehe"s been on a podnutz show not too long ago so I think that Doortodoorgeek can get you in touch16:48
GreblusI've tried to contact him on reddit .. no answer .. I guess this is going to take a week or so , then ?16:48
knightwisethe trick is youre doing the install from one external medium to the other16:49
Greblus.. what's another week after waiting four months to get to this stage? , sigh. Oh wait...16:50
Greblus"one external medium to another" should I just plug in another USB then ?16:50
knightwisewhere are your installer files .. on a usb stick ?16:51
Greblusyes.. the kignston 64GB .. so I can't install to the actual 'install-device' then ?16:51
knightwiseand you are trying to install them to another usb stick i presume16:51
knightwisethat is making things very complicated16:52
knightwiseinstall the files on one usb disk and install them to a second usb stick16:52
GreblusI just used one USB basically,16:52
knightwiseaha16:52
knightwiseand you want to install from and to the same stick ?16:52
GreblusI need two, right ?16:52
knightwisethats making it very hard on yourself16:52
knightwiseyou need to16:52
knightwiseone souce16:52
knightwisesource16:52
knightwiseone destination16:52
Greblusgot it.16:52
* Greblus opens champagne.16:53
knightwiseand follow the distrowatch tutorial but instead of installing to the chromebooks ssd drive install to the second usb disk16:53
knightwiseyou're not there yet but this is going to make it a lot easier on you16:53
Greblusright, I shall leave it for now , I need a cigarillio (rolled tobac). .. lets give it a rest for 5 minutes, shall we ?16:54
knightwiseok, give it a try , think it through and if you need me send me a PM16:55
knightwiseif i don't respond i'll be recording this weeks podcast16:55
GreblusOK, I'll try that cheersknightwise :)17:02
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davmor2popey: 10 pancakes later I think I'm done :)19:32
diddledanpancakes?!19:34
zmoylan-pitis pancake tuesday, did you not see all the lemons and pancake mix everywhere?19:34
diddledanI ignored them :-p19:34
popeyhaha davmor220:02
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